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(ProPublica)   Not News: The Huffington Post publishes Kremlin propaganda. News: Huffington Post readers are unaware they were reading Kremlin propaganda   (propublica.org) divider line 124
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2012-11-16 07:46:01 PM  
This is gonna be a fun thread to watch
 
2012-11-16 07:50:10 PM  

cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch


Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....
 
2012-11-16 07:51:23 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....


Is there really an unbiased source anywhere? And yeah, the trollish headline is pretty good
 
2012-11-16 08:32:38 PM  

cman: Darth_Lukecash: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....

Is there really an unbiased source anywhere? And yeah, the trollish headline is pretty good


All reporting involves some bias- It's human nature. However, when the bias comes into play? If it comes after the reporting-that's one thing. If it's a pre-existing bias, then you are filtering reality quite wrong.
 
2012-11-16 08:43:46 PM  
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 08:45:49 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....


Here let me get some pliers, lets get that hook out of your mouth and get you back in the water sport
 
2012-11-16 10:17:00 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 10:17:09 PM  
Хаффингтон пост
 
2012-11-16 10:19:15 PM  

jim32rr: Darth_Lukecash: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....

Here let me get some pliers, lets get that hook out of your mouth and get you back in the water sport


snicker
 
2012-11-16 10:20:18 PM  
Remind me again which of the parties had a candidate named Romney that invested in China, sent jobs to China, and got campaign funds from China?
 
2012-11-16 10:20:22 PM  
"Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.
 
2012-11-16 10:21:29 PM  
Nice try, Ivan
 
2012-11-16 10:25:58 PM  
обе стороны плохо так голосуют за республиканцев
 
2012-11-16 10:26:21 PM  
The problem with Communism isn't that it killed 80 million people, it just didn't kill the RIGHT 80 million people. It clearly needs a second chance.
 
2012-11-16 10:27:49 PM  

nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.


Just like capitalism.
 
2012-11-16 10:27:54 PM  
A repeated opinion is still just an opinion.
 
2012-11-16 10:28:24 PM  

LoneWolf343: nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.

Just like capitalism.


And BINGO was his name ooooooh
 
2012-11-16 10:28:46 PM  

cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch


I just want to see people vainly try to make Yakov Smirnoff jokes.
 
2012-11-16 10:30:12 PM  
Phew! I'm glad that was made public so we can get back to the corporate-owned, corporate-inspired, corporate editorial that passes as "news" in America. I was getting worried there for a moment.
 
2012-11-16 10:30:37 PM  

uselessgit: The problem with Communism isn't that it killed 80 million people, it just didn't kill the RIGHT 80 million people. It clearly needs a second chance.


OK. I chuckled at that.
 
2012-11-16 10:30:37 PM  

jim32rr: Darth_Lukecash: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

Not if everyone ignores the article from a biased source. And trollish headline....

Here let me get some pliers, lets get that hook out of your mouth and get you back in the water sport


Yes, because replying to cmans futile attempt to get a troll thread running, is the same as actually reading the article and commenting on it.

And considering how many people have actually clicked/commented...it seems I was right.
 
2012-11-16 10:31:51 PM  
In other news, Russia employs an American public relations firm.

placed on behalf of the Russian government by its public-relations firm, Ketchum.

So tell me, please, gloating Republitard white-knighters, should I be more upset that HuffPo published the articles, or that a US firm is shilling for Vladimir Putin's increasingly Stalinist government and raking in the rubles by doing so?
 
2012-11-16 10:36:05 PM  
ITT: A vile rag funded by a "one percenter" living large off her unearned divorce proceeds, which regularly publishes outright propaganda and false "medical news" that deters the gullible from getting proper medical care, manages to spawn at least one defender.
 
2012-11-16 10:37:23 PM  
"You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."

Or killing 8 million Ukrainians

Right comrades?
 
2012-11-16 10:40:04 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-16 10:42:27 PM  

uselessgit: The problem with Communism isn't that it killed 80 million people, it just didn't kill the RIGHT 80 million people. It clearly needs a second chance.


No evil men killed 80 million people. Communism failed because because it relied on individual to act morally for the good of all. There was no selfish incentive for one to pull his/her own weight.

Capitalism only demands the individual look out for himself and selfishness is the engine that powers it.
 
2012-11-16 10:43:05 PM  
Who cares? It's not like HufPo ever pretended to be a credible news source to begin with.

It's like complaining that TMZ lied about Lindsay Lohan's latest DUI.
 
2012-11-16 10:47:57 PM  
I know that news publishers often have interests to publish things that may or may not be true. In the case of FoxNews, the entire network all day stilts each and every news story, often stating outright lies, in an effort to please one man in his eternal quest to be the world's biggest douchebag.

Obviously both sides are bad, but FoxNews is the absolute worst, most biased source on Earth and they have the audacity to say "Fair and Balanced". We know HuffPo and MSNBC are progressive news sources. They are unabashedly so. Some folks like listening to echo chambers so they can pick up their daily talking points and responses to "the other sides" talking points. However, you're not going to find any MSNBC viewer talking about how their shows are "fair and balanced" to both sides. You might find 1 out of 10 FoxNews viewers that admit their show is geared to a primarily conservative audience.
 
2012-11-16 10:48:21 PM  
There's something else on HuffPo besides poorly working slideshows of random Twitter posts?
 
2012-11-16 10:52:34 PM  
WTF? Half of my comment is gone. Awesome.
 
2012-11-16 10:57:25 PM  

Shmeat: WTF? Half of my comment is gone. Awesome.


Which/whose comment would that be?
 
2012-11-16 11:07:29 PM  
Oblig:

Gorbachev sings tractors: Turnips! Buttocks!
 
2012-11-16 11:10:19 PM  
media.tumblr.com?
 
2012-11-16 11:11:39 PM  
Hang on a minute

There are things on the HuffPo that AREN'T communist propaganda?
 
2012-11-16 11:12:18 PM  

nmemkha: uselessgit: The problem with Communism isn't that it killed 80 million people, it just didn't kill the RIGHT 80 million people. It clearly needs a second chance.

No evil men killed 80 million people. Communism failed because because it relied on individual to act morally for the good of all. There was no selfish incentive for one to pull his/her own weight.

Capitalism only demands the individual look out for himself and selfishness is the engine that powers it.


It's all so simple!

Why didn't I think of that?
 
2012-11-16 11:14:37 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: Oblig:

Gorbachev sings tractors: Turnips! Buttocks!




Did I spot a gorbachev reference?
 
2012-11-16 11:17:26 PM  
Kremlin propaganda? Meh, who cares? Stalin-era might give me some woozies, but not after.
 
2012-11-16 11:22:39 PM  

kim jong-un: nmemkha: uselessgit: The problem with Communism isn't that it killed 80 million people, it just didn't kill the RIGHT 80 million people. It clearly needs a second chance.

No evil men killed 80 million people. Communism failed because because it relied on individual to act morally for the good of all. There was no selfish incentive for one to pull his/her own weight.

Capitalism only demands the individual look out for himself and selfishness is the engine that powers it.

It's all so simple!

Why didn't I think of that?


Ideologies are always simple and sound great on paper or from the podium. Its the implementations that are the problem.
 
2012-11-16 11:30:55 PM  
I had a look around the Pro Publica website.

Reports on leaking pipelines, the failure of HUD to enforce the Fair Housing Act, Nursing home violatons, soldiers being unable to get combat records ... it's a bunch of Commies. We can't trust them. Them Commies must be lying about Russia using PR tactics worthy of, oh, I don't know, a corporation run by Republicans.

It's a TARP! No, wait. It's not that bad.

Anybody who hates hedgefunders, gerrymandering and BP can't be all bad.
 
2012-11-16 11:31:21 PM  
I saw some kind of movie about the Kremlin once. This was the main character:

cache.io9.com
 
2012-11-16 11:32:39 PM  

nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.


True that's one of the problems... but those tiny few political elite had their luxury lifestyle been dispersed equally would still have left the average soviet worker a pauper. Having seen some former com-block "luxury" items, I'd still rather be middle class in America during the 80s.

The fundamentals of communism just do not lend to growing living standards like free market capitalism.
 
2012-11-16 11:32:47 PM  
in other news, op eds may contain propaganda
 
2012-11-16 11:38:04 PM  

LoneWolf343: nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.

Just like capitalism.

~
But unlike capitalism, it was all about sharing. Remember that bit, smartass?

Shaaaaaring yaaaaaaaaay!!!! Complete clusterfark of a political system. Left wing politics grew out of that.
 
2012-11-16 11:39:21 PM  

fusillade762: cman: This is gonna be a fun thread to watch

I just want to see people vainly try to make Yakov Smirnoff jokes.


At Daily KOS, Yakov Smirnoff joke makes YOU!
 
2012-11-16 11:42:57 PM  
Dag sentence structure.
 
2012-11-16 11:43:24 PM  

Big Ramifications: LoneWolf343: nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.

Just like capitalism.
~
But unlike capitalism, it was all about sharing. Remember that bit, smartass?

Shaaaaaring yaaaaaaaaay!!!! Complete clusterfark of a political system. Left wing politics grew out of that.


yeah... that was the point I think
 
2012-11-16 11:49:28 PM  

Mrbogey: nmemkha: "Ogga booga Communism!"

The problem with Communism was that a tiny few wound up with all the resources and power.

True that's one of the problems... but those tiny few political elite had their luxury lifestyle been dispersed equally would still have left the average soviet worker a pauper. Having seen some former com-block "luxury" items, I'd still rather be middle class in America during the 80s.

The fundamentals of communism just do not lend to growing living standards like free market capitalism.


Can't really compare them. Communism is a failed attempt to forge a system of government from socialism, which is merely a useful social tool.
Capitalism is just a way of making money, and as such, is a useful social tool. And like socialism, when elevated to the level of a system of government (Laissez-faire, or neoconservatism) it fails catastrophically - like communism. It failed catastrophically in the 1930s, and is about to again today. This time, I think we'll be luckier. With the boomers dying, and the immigrants coming, the political pendulum is swinging back toward a moderate, democratic system. Fortunately, the adults seem to be taking charge again.
 
2012-11-16 11:50:15 PM  
Subby seems to have left out the noted communists at CNBC. I always suspected Kudlow was being blackmailed by the rooskies for all the blow and hookers to put the face of a douchebag on free market capitalism. I wonder what they have on Santelli...
 
2012-11-16 11:54:51 PM  

cman: Is there really an unbiased source anywhere? And yeah, the trollish headline is pretty good


Honestly, it doesn't look like it to me. Google Amber Lyon and/or check her out on this podcast:

Link

In short: CNN airs paid programming from dictatorships.

Then again, it's fun to shout LIBTARDS or CONSERVATARDS! Maybe I'll accuse someone of being an Useful Idiot and then follow it with a bunch of talking points.
 
2012-11-16 11:56:20 PM  
There's not much difference between Communism and Lassez-Faire capitalism, in practice. The robber-baron capitalism of the late 19th century closely resembled Maoism, in practice. Work farms and company towns surrounded with armed guards instructed to shoot workers who attempted to escape, company stores and housing, a huge, impoverished working class supporting a tiny elite who had the power of life and death over them. they might as well have been in Stalin's Russia.
 
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