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(KJRH Tulsa)   After three years in the making, Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma state capitol finally unveiled. Unfortunately during that three year period, no one ever thought to run a spell check on it   (kjrh.com) divider line 96
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2012-11-16 01:07:54 PM  
9 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


The other 5 were simply advisory, and dealt with interpersonal relationships. Some biblical scholars believe that they read as follows:

11. Favor thine brothers before harlots.
12. If there be grass on the field, though mayest play ball.
13. Stickest not thy manhood into crazy.
14. Once thou hast gone black, thou shalt not again go back.
15. Remember always: No matter how fetching appearest thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's maidservant, some man, somewhere, and quite possibly thy neighbor, hath grown weary of her excrement.
2012-11-16 12:41:18 PM  
8 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.
2012-11-16 11:58:19 AM  
8 votes:
Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
2012-11-16 12:13:38 PM  
6 votes:
They can't even get spelling right on the Ten Commandments yet they're all experts on interpreting the entire Bible and how we all should follow its words?
2012-11-16 12:11:23 PM  
6 votes:

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?
2012-11-16 12:06:20 PM  
6 votes:
This certainly helps dispel the stereotypes.
2012-11-16 12:59:24 PM  
5 votes:

Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?


11)Thou shalt not be a douche to your fellow man: seriously knock it off, even if they dress funny, speak a different language or have different colored skin

12) Thou shalt not try to forcefully impose your religion or morality on others: I am the lord your god, *I* got the whole revealing my will to others thing, mmkay?

13) Thou Shalt not be Smug:Before you got these tablets you were just a s big a sinner as that guy you are looking down on, so cut it out

14) IF thou seest a guy with a short mustache and a funny haircut coming to power in your country, thou shalt GTFO immediately

15) Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
2012-11-16 12:05:37 PM  
5 votes:
It was God's will that it be misspelled.
2012-11-16 12:55:29 PM  
4 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

Exceptions


'm pretty sure there's something in the director's cut edition that has to do with loving thy neighbor being suspended when neighbor is gay, not stealing except when capitalism, and looking the other way about killing when the dead guy is brown
2012-11-16 12:20:09 PM  
4 votes:
They also seemed to have forgotten about the whole "first amendment checker"
2012-11-16 12:10:12 PM  
4 votes:
The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?
2012-11-16 05:52:32 PM  
3 votes:
Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

Follow the constitution, except for the parts we disagree with.
/asshats
2012-11-16 03:36:09 PM  
3 votes:

DamnYankees: Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?


"Be excellent to each other."
That covers the secular part.
2012-11-16 12:21:01 PM  
3 votes:

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?
2012-11-16 08:19:21 PM  
2 votes:

Bird3149: How do you misspell "derp"?


"R-E-LI-G-I-O-U-S R-I-G-H-T"?
2012-11-16 07:16:17 PM  
2 votes:
I'm less offended by the misspellings and the All-Seeing Eye as I am by the American Eagle carved there. Considering how the Jews reacted when the Romans tried to nail their Imperial Eagle over the doors of the Temple in Jerusalem, it's pretty ironic.

Actually, what would be ironic is if the monument got defaced not by some radical secularist but by a proper God-fearing Christian who objected to the worldly national symbols placed on top of God's Law.
2012-11-16 07:15:10 PM  
2 votes:

SquiggsIN: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due t ...


You hang out with the wrong Christians. This Roman Catholic gets a huge chuckle when he's at an Easter vigil mass and he watches the Priest re-create the Beltane rite of kindling the sacred fire, or sees a stained glass window dedicated to "St." Brigid. It shakes my faith not even the tiniest bit to know that our forms and rituals of worship often are somebody else's with the serial numbers filed off. Humans like rituals and pageantry, what the fark ya gonna do?
2012-11-16 07:07:40 PM  
2 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D



I STILL can't quite accept that it's a total coincidence that Ahnknaten got his monotheism on, led everyone out into the desert and right around the same time the Hebrews appear on the historical scene as monotheists and have a story about their leader, a prince of Egypt leading them out of Egypt. After all "Moses" is the Egyptian word for "son of. It makes me wonder if the original Hebrew weren't some sort of loyalist remnant of Ahnknaten followers (maybe mixed with "Habiru" mercenaries from a sort of praetorian guard) who left Egypt after the priests of the traditional cults re-asserted dominance
2012-11-16 06:20:57 PM  
2 votes:

felching pen: /As a Christian, I wish we Christians would act more Christ-like.


Silly Christian, American Christianity is about making a big show that you believe. As long as you believe you are saved, so you can act like a giant douchebag and it's ok because you're forgiven. Doing good works? That's Papist talk, and Papism is practically devil worship.
2012-11-16 04:59:35 PM  
2 votes:
The people who think putting up crap like this is important aren't smart enough to notice the misspellings.
2012-11-16 04:27:27 PM  
2 votes:
It's like the Constitution: it's not like they're going to read it or anything.
GBB
2012-11-16 04:05:48 PM  
2 votes:
If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.
2012-11-16 02:19:47 PM  
2 votes:
Don't worry everyone, a lady from spain is going to restore this. She has experience with these things.
2012-11-16 02:08:08 PM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: God has thirteen "attributes."



Which, while I recognize that theology as coming from the Kabbalah, is an exceptionally Hindu thing to say. Apparently Hinduism is technically Monotheistic in that they say that the "big three" SHiva Vishnu and Brahamin are actually emanations of the original Pan-universal Godhead Atman, and all the lesser gods and goddesses are in turn manifestations of the big three
2012-11-16 01:25:23 PM  
2 votes:

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.
2012-11-16 12:56:53 PM  
2 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


the fine print.
2012-11-16 12:51:47 PM  
2 votes:

Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.


I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?
2012-11-16 12:38:40 PM  
2 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Exceptions
2012-11-16 12:25:44 PM  
2 votes:

Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?


Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.
2012-11-16 12:17:30 PM  
2 votes:
Why is this being done again? Oh right, Oklahoma. I still wish I could figure out what they have to do with the grounds of the capitol building, though.
2012-11-16 12:15:54 PM  
2 votes:
It's a sad day when you can't spell as well as Ozzy Osbourne.
2012-11-16 12:13:54 PM  
2 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


Probably not.
2012-11-16 12:01:43 PM  
2 votes:
Red state problems.
2012-11-16 11:53:32 AM  
2 votes:
So apparently Oklahoma is Jewish?
2012-11-17 07:35:53 AM  
1 votes:
1. I IS CEILING CAT
2. CEILING CAT COMS 1ST
3. DON' LISSEN TO BASEMENT CAT
4. DON' USE MY NAME TO DO EVELL
5. REMEMBER CATERDAY AND KEEP IT LAZY
6. DRIVE UR HOOMAN AZ CRAZY AZ POSSIBIL
7. DON' KILL. UNLESS HOOMAN MAKES YOU DRESS UP
8. DON' CHEAT N HUK UP WIT CRAZY KITTEH DOWN THE STREET
9. DON' LAI. UNLESS U HAS TO
10. DON' STEEL. JUS TAKE STUFF AN PUT IT BACK B4 THEY KNO
2012-11-17 05:49:13 AM  
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-17 12:36:10 AM  
1 votes:

9Speed: ciberido: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.

No, not everybody.


Sigh. It was a joke. Not a very good one, apparently.

Look at it this way. If you use base eight, then "eight" in base eight is written "10".... 

Let me try to redeem myself with a riddle. Why do computer science geeks and math nerds confuse Christmas with Halloween?
2012-11-16 11:18:49 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.


If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.
2012-11-16 10:39:30 PM  
1 votes:

ciberido: GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.

284. Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

One of my personal favorites.


6. Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.

31. Never make fun of a Ferengi's mother. Insult something they care about instead.

111. Treat people in your debt like family ... exploit them.

192. Never cheat a Klingon... unless you can get away with it.

211. Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.
2012-11-16 10:36:34 PM  
1 votes:

Indubitably: PsiChick: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

The American flag and a nice shiny eagle are there. Clearly, this is a sabotage attempt by the lamestream media and those jackbooted Obama thugs to reinforce steryotypes oppressing the poor good ol' Christians by implanting the 'Christianity Is America!!!11!!eleventy!' symbolism in the minds of the people involved in working on this.

Please just stop.

Thank you.


...That was sarcasm.

/I need a font for that.
//But really, that stuff is only on there because, well, of the entire point of this--that these guys believe America is a Christian Nation(tm). Which is ridiculous, but oh, well.
2012-11-16 09:30:10 PM  
1 votes:

ciberido: GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.

284. Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

One of my personal favorites.


Absolutely. Given that this country more closely follows the Rules of Acquisition than they do the Ten Commandments, a monument to the Rules would be more socially relevant.
2012-11-16 09:18:52 PM  
1 votes:

Son of Thunder: The Larch: Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.

Really? Everyone else in all of history has interpreted that commandment as an absolute prohibition of all visual art? Citation needed.


Hardcore Jews and Muslims interpret it as a ban on *representational* art. So a picture or a portrait of a person is BAD BAD BAD, but calligraphy or pretty patterns are A-OK. Back in the day Turkish and Persian minature portraiture was consudered incredibly scandalous:

persia.org

OMG you can see his face BLASPHEMER

but this is all good:
farm7.static.flickr.com

I do believe the "art" of photography was a point of some controversy back in the day as it is capturing the handiwork of God Himself. So knuckledraggers still don't like it, thinking that a picture of a man can steal his soul, and only God is allowed to do that.
2012-11-16 09:16:20 PM  
1 votes:
2012-11-16 07:56:52 PM  
1 votes:

Magorn: AssAsInAssassin: Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

...

and allow for a few centuries of linguistic drift and regional accents and it's not hard to hear Yahweh (Yah-wheh not Ya'll-way) in Allah (Or El-Al, the root word of Yahweh). It wouldn't shock me if the origins of Islam didn't have its roots in the remnants of the Samaritan culture which seems to vanish just after biblical times


Pretty much any Biblical name that has "el" or "al" in it comes from the same Semitic root.

ALLAH: 1702, Arabic name for the Supreme Being, from Arabic Allahu, contraction of al-Ilahu, from al "the" + Ilah "God," related to Hebrew Elohim

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=allah&s e archmode=none

ELOHIM: a name of God in the Bible, c.1600, from Hebrew, plural (of majesty?) of Eloh "God," a word of unknown etymology, perhaps an augmentation of El "God," also of unknown origin. Generally taken as singular, the use of this word instead of Yahveh is taken by biblical scholars as an important clue to authorship in the Old Testament, hence Elohist.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Elohim&allowed_in_frame=0

But "Jove" is an Indo-European word:

JOVE: Roman god of the bright sky, late 14c., from L. Iovis, from PIE *dyeu- "to shine," with derivatives referring to the sky, heavens, a god (see diurnal, and cf. Zeus). In classical Latin, the compound Iuppiter replaced Old L. Iovis as the god's name.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jove&se a rchmode=none

/Etymology geek.
//I LOVE etymology. It helps the world make sense.
2012-11-16 07:47:46 PM  
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: AssAsInAssassin: Ahem... wrong link...

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jupiter & searchmode=none

Which is actually fairly impressive, considering that the Indo-European language family has no known relation to the Afro-Asiatic languages (of which the Semitic languages are a broad language family, much as the Romance or Germanic languages are part of sub-families of Indo-European)...save for some as-yet-unproven theories of relating some of the larger primary language families that still tend to be considered a little fringey.

(That said, I don't discount it could have happened. Somehow Semitic peoples got the one pre-Abrahamic faith (for which we have good records) from the people of Ur--and Sumerian is a language isolate which has no known relatives (and--at least if some interpretations of the fact there are sometimes as many as four or five separate glyphs in Sumerian for the same syllable are any clue--there's even a chance ancient Sumerian may have been a tonal or partially tonal language, like Vietnamese or Thai or quite a lot of language families in Africa). One theory is that when the Akkadian peoples (who spoke proto-Semitic) moved into the Middle East that they essentially "Sumericised" (taking on religion and culture, as well as apparently a form of cuneiform script) whilst causing a language shift from Sumerian to Akkadian.)


Or it could just be a loan word.

The Latin alphabet came from Etruscan--another language isolate--by way of Greek, which was adapted from the alphabet of the Phoenicians--a Semitic people. English, as I'm sure you know, has words from Arabic, Hebrew, Basque, American Indian languages, and pretty much every culture on Earth. Maybe the ancients were similarly promiscuous with their vocabularies.
2012-11-16 07:24:10 PM  
1 votes:

AssAsInAssassin: Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7438098/80746572#c80746572


and allow for a few centuries of linguistic drift and regional accents and it's not hard to hear Yahweh (Yah-wheh not Ya'll-way) in Allah (Or El-Al, the root word of Yahweh). It wouldn't shock me if the origins of Islam didn't have its roots in the remnants of the Samaritan culture which seems to vanish just after biblical times
2012-11-16 07:16:06 PM  
1 votes:

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

Not in the catholic version.

/srs.


Yeah, my church has graven images. The crucifix bothers me (as a Catholic) because dying isn't all that much of a trick. Resurrection? That's a bigger deal.
2012-11-16 06:48:45 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: And because they had a well-trained / lucky army their views have managed to propagate/evolve and dominate two-thirds of the planet.


I'd really argue that the spread of Christianity(and Abrahamic faiths in general) as something other than a subsect of Judaism (akin to the Essenes or Chabad Lubavich) is due to two fairly lucky accidents:

a) The conversion of a Romanised Jewish person (Saul of Tarsus, who later renamed himself to Paul in a fairly long tradition of "renaming upon conversion" that seems to have been a trope in pre-Diaspora Jewish communities) who introduced a "goyim-friendly" version of the then-nascent Christian faith and no longer restricted the faith to observant (if dissident) Jewish people.

b) The conversion of Constantine I in 313 AD (which effectively ended official persecutions and blood libels against Christianity by the Roman Empire, and led for the establishment of Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire (and later, the Western Empire and its descendants and the Eastern Empire in Constantinople until well into the Middle Ages).

As for Islam, it's a little more difficult to trace back to the Abrahamic faiths but Muhammad was almost certainly exposed to both Christianity and Judaism (even explicitly acknowledging the groups as People Of The Book who had received revelations from the Most High)--it can be best seen as an Arabicised continuation of the tradition of "new revelations" that Christianity set a basis for. (Of particular note is the fact that the Arab peninsula was one of the few areas left in the Middle East at that point that still followed some sort of pre-Abrahamic faith, which again provides "colour text" for some of the commandments in the Quran to go after idolators and wipe them out--you can see the direct predecessors in the struggles of the Old Testament prophets against the return of the "Old Religion". Honestly, had the Christian canon not been "frozen" in the Council of Nicaea, we'd probably have had stuff just as bloody from Scandinavia or other areas where the "old faiths" still reared their head now and again in the Christian holy books.)
2012-11-16 06:37:51 PM  
1 votes:

Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.


In my experience, theology scholars spend an awful lot or their time developing ways of explaining that "No, God didn't mean that" where that is something which is (a) clearly stated in the Bible and (b) inconvenient to the individual or their church. The Catholics are the masters at this, having managed to convert not killing into the inquisition, not coveting into the fabulous wealth of the church and love thy neighbour into two thousand years or religious war.

But you know, I rather like them for it. They are such openly and unashamedly devious bastards that they merit some respect. It's the thick as pigshiat evangelicals who start off with biblical literalism, realise that it's full of contradictions and impossible to implement and then stick doggedly to a few bits which suit their own tastes who annoy me.

TL;DR. Papists explain away the bits of the Bible they don't like while evos ignore them.
2012-11-16 06:28:53 PM  
1 votes:

PunGent: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Exactly :)

Christians aren't REALLY monotheists...they just like to dress that way.


They need to go back to the really Olde Tyme Religion and get to worshipping the Maid/Mother/Crone. Now there's a Trinity that doesn't f*ck around.
2012-11-16 06:22:45 PM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


I had to explain this to my friend. While Jesus did exhort making one's self better (and so on) he was the ultimate hippie. I mean hippie as in give everything you don't need to survive to help others. I reminded him, that as a prosperity gospel heretic who doesn't shun wealth, it is unlikely he will get into heaven. His "good works" ledger is woefully inadequate, his help of fellow man is low, and his material desires are too excessive.

Tldr version:

Lapsed Irish Catholic schooled a Lutheran because if there's one thing you get beaten into your skull by the Nuns it is the Bible. Well that, and a fear of women named Mary Francis.

---

Why, the poor guy thought that God was nice. No, God is not nice. God is vengeful and hot tempered. Jesus was nice, and he moderated dad a bit. Have no doubt that otherwise (if there really is a God) we'd see bears rending children guilty of petty transgressions an awful lot today.
2012-11-16 06:14:09 PM  
1 votes:

Bonzo_1116: Look at the story of Cain and Abel, and all the stuff in Genesis--it's really clear that it was a herding culture that distrusted the agricultural folk of the cities.


The more things change the more they stay the same. Now we have a rural agricultural culture that distrusts the industrial/post-industrial folk of the cities.
2012-11-16 06:08:11 PM  
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simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

Well, it's implied from the Talmud. 5 and 5 on two tablets. Might be in the OT,

Where does it say in the OT that there were 10 commandments?  I can't find the number of commandments anywhere in the Bible. It looks like someone just took the words that God said and sort and said "meh... that's somewhere between 9 and 13, depending on how you divide 'em up. Let's say there's about 10. And different religions can argue about how to number them for the next few thousand years."

How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of Exodus 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.


Some of the more interesting gnostic documents mention more than 10 commandments. Talking with a jewish scholar, I got the inpression there were another set of commandments which came before the ones we know today. Basically, moses got to the bottom of the mountain and looked around. He saw what was happening and dashed the tablets he'd written the 10 commandments on to the ground, turned around and walked back up the mountain, and in no uncertain terms, noted thet he and God needed to get to brass tacks with his flock, as they were not the most eloquent of peoples. The long and the short of it is that our current understanding of the 10 commandments is the dumbed-down version, because the jews at the time were the equivalent of the population of the short bus, having lived in a pan-helenic society(egypt) for so long, they had started to move into polytheistic worship, much like the phrase, "When in rome" but they were in Egypt.

/that guy was fun to talk to
//just don't get him started on the oiginal polytheistic religion which evolved, slowly, into the current version judaism(sp?)
2012-11-16 05:59:18 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyC: Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.

They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?


Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.
2012-11-16 05:56:08 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due to my increased exposure to this group) seem especially offended when confronted with the Pagan origins of many of their most treasured traditions.


Try seeking out educated Christians. The college where I teach has a seminary attached to it. In addition to my wife being a theology grad student, I am friends with a good number of the other faculty members. Ever gotten together to watch MST3k with an Old Testament prof, two theologians, a historian, and a philosopher? It's an experience. I have found that the PhD-holding types (including the conservative ones) love learning about the cultural context in which their religious traditions developed. I find that it is those who never dig any deeper than their childhood Sunday School lessons (or maybe get a 2-year diploma from a local Bible College) that are the ones who see scholarly inquiry as a threat.

On the other hand, it also might have something to do with your approach. If you launch discussions of these topics with the attitude that you are "explaining away" their religion as "nothing but" carry-overs from earlier phenomena, then I can understand them getting annoyed at you.
2012-11-16 05:55:47 PM  
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D


I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis. I get the feeling that the Hebrews as a nomadic tribe of herdsmen blundered into the relatively advanced and polytheistic culture of Mesopotamia and tried to mesh up their simple set of gods with a complicated one.

Look at the story of Cain and Abel, and all the stuff in Genesis--it's really clear that it was a herding culture that distrusted the agricultural folk of the cities.
2012-11-16 05:45:36 PM  
1 votes:
The problem didn't seem to worry Oklahoma State Representative Mike Ritze, who paid $10,000 of his own money to see the monument's creation.

Those words should be chiseled into the bottom of the monument, so everyone remembers the politician who thought this would be a good idea.
2012-11-16 05:45:18 PM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


They prefer to beat people over the head with it and stuff it down their throats.
2012-11-16 05:42:35 PM  
1 votes:

Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.


They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?
2012-11-16 05:25:45 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.


I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist
2012-11-16 05:05:39 PM  
1 votes:

The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.


Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.
2012-11-16 05:00:58 PM  
1 votes:
The One Commandment:


TRY NOT TO BE A DICK
2012-11-16 04:53:34 PM  
1 votes:

jshine: DamnYankees: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

It doesn't say how many on each. Just says there were tablets.

That was my understanding as well, but the person I quoted seemed to have his knickers in a knot over something...


I always assumed that there being two tablets, with a number of commandments divisible by two, that it would be fairly likely that the distribution of commandments would be equal.

/symmetry is important!
//disclaimer: tablets never existed. Fairy tale mythology is not affected by logic
2012-11-16 04:48:41 PM  
1 votes:
I thought in the case of legitimate misspelling a monument had a way of shutting that whole thing down,.
2012-11-16 04:41:04 PM  
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.


Nor any golden tablets.
2012-11-16 04:37:17 PM  
1 votes:
There's a second set of Commandments in Exodus 34, possibly another in Deuteronomy, but that's for scholars/ theologians, not doctrinaires as these OK folks are.
That's not Stars of David at the base of the monument. The Sign of Silence is given. 93/93
2012-11-16 04:28:39 PM  
1 votes:
I guess they are going to have to abort this monument and try again.
2012-11-16 04:22:48 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Clapton.
2012-11-16 04:19:00 PM  
1 votes:
They don't follow them themselves, and they can't even spell them right, but they expect the rest of the country to follow them without question?

Separation of church and state, people. Freedom of AND from religion. Practice what you preach, and get with the times.
2012-11-16 04:11:04 PM  
1 votes:
It looks more like they buried the 10 commandments there and put up that marker.
2012-11-16 04:08:06 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: DamnYankees: Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?

"Be excellent to each other."
That covers the secular part.


lh3.googleusercontent.com
2012-11-16 04:05:03 PM  
1 votes:
I'm glad the ACLU decided to stand down, this time. As long as they don't try to correct the spelling, it should be allowed to stand. As a monument to........well, I'm sure you can all figure that out.
2012-11-16 04:02:08 PM  
1 votes:
I like these more:

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-16 03:57:43 PM  
1 votes:

Loucifer: Teh Ten Commandments.


1 Then Ceiling Cat spoked all them werds:

2 I iz Ceiling Cat An I iz Top Cat, An I broughted u out of hawt litturbawx wit no cheezbrgrs for hard mousin at all

3 No can has other ceiling cat!! U gotz other Ceiling Cat, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes. Srsly.

4 If u try be Ceiling Cat of any of mai creayshunz up in floaty skai, down in erth or in watr or I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes.

5 If u think faek Ceiling Cat iz Ceiling Cat, I mek u ded An ur kittenz ded An if yur kittenz have kittenz, dey be ded too, for being stupid and stuffs.

6 If not I wuv u An all ur lotz uf kittenz!

7 U sez Ceiling Cat bad, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes, cuz I dun liek it. Srsly.

8 Remembur Caturday An keep holy.

9 U ketch mousies 6 dais An finish ketchin, K?

10 Caturday, u no ketchin mousies. U An all ur peepz go wrship me. And, if yu beez gudd, I maks it so yu can stays home and do alla stuffs yu wanted tu doos.

11 I maded heavenz An erth An see An the stuff that does teh funney hoppey stuffz in An on it - so I make it holy cuz I no ketch mousies.

12 Bez u good to papa kitteh An mama kitteh so u has long nine liefs.

13 U no maek peepz ded with teh malice! Srsly!

14 U no maek sexxes wit other gurlz or menz than urs (that mi jobz!).

15 U no taek cheezburgerz for free if not getz for free.

16 U no tell bad stuff ov ur neibor.

17 U no wantz neibor cheezburgerz! No wief, no gurlz, no menz, no abimalz, NO BUKKITZ! DEY NOT UR BUKKITZ, K? dey da LOLrus' bukkits.

18 When peepz see mai great orkestr wit thundr An all cool speshul effects thei wur scairdey wimps

19 Thei sed to Mozus 'U goez speek to uz An we will listen; but Ceiling Cat will shoot us wit His lazer eyes!'

20 Mozus LOL'd lotz, An a bit moar, for thei wuz such scairdies, An sed 'Ceiling Cat no maek u ded; he just wantz to hav fun wit u gais An maek u scairdey cats so u obei him.'

21 But peepz wur still scairdies An let Mozus go ther to Ceiling Cat.
Ceiling Cat roolz for idles an alters
22 Ceiling Cat sez "Tellz them scairdies: 'U see I meowed to u from big ceilingz.

23 U no mek me of silvar or goldz.

24 U mek me altar of kitteh-litturz An gif me pwnz0rzed animulz ther An I gif u cheezburgr.

25 But u no maek me altar of bjutiful stonez. DO NOT WANT!

26 An u no use steps on altar or I can see ur penises. DO NOT WANT!"
2012-11-16 03:30:21 PM  
1 votes:
Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?
2012-11-16 03:03:14 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Probably something about not buggering sheep.
2012-11-16 03:02:02 PM  
1 votes:
You'd think God would fix the typos for them. Ungrateful bastard.
2012-11-16 02:45:38 PM  
1 votes:
Oklahoma Ten Commandments:

1. Thall shalt not worship anyone other than Ralph Dale Earnhardt, Sr.
2. Take off your hat at the table.
3. Remember to watch the OSU game
4. Do what your Pappy says, and don't sass your Mama.
5. You shall not kill without a permit or outside hunting season
6. If I catch you and your teenage cousin alone in the barn again....
7. Don't take nuthin that ain't yours.
8. Lies make baby Jesus cry
9. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
10. Rubbin' is racin'
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-11-16 02:32:57 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


That was the honey-do list his wife gave him.
2012-11-16 01:53:05 PM  
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."


God has thirteen "attributes."

simplicimus: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.


Clearly we are the product of groupthink.
2012-11-16 01:47:54 PM  
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."


Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.
2012-11-16 01:45:10 PM  
1 votes:
I was wondering what was wrong with desiring a small, high-pitched, transverse flute.
2012-11-16 01:32:12 PM  
1 votes:

doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.


And He was married at the time. King David did his best to wipe out all mention of Her.
2012-11-16 01:20:23 PM  
1 votes:
Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?
2012-11-16 01:15:47 PM  
1 votes:

Cyberluddite: The other 5 were simply advisory, and dealt with interpersonal relationships. Some biblical scholars believe that they read as follows:

11. Favor thine brothers before harlots.
12. If there be grass on the field, though mayest play ball.
13. Stickest not thy manhood into crazy.
14. Once thou hast gone black, thou shalt not again go back.
15. Remember always: No matter how fetching appearest thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's maidservant, some man, somewhere, and quite possibly thy neighbor, hath grown weary of her excrement.


+1 Internets.
2012-11-16 01:14:38 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Girl on girl.
2012-11-16 01:12:27 PM  
1 votes:
j.wigflip.com
2012-11-16 01:00:31 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: simplicimus: Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

Maybe you do, but the Jews have 613 commandments. That whole "Maimonides" thing.


I have a hard enough time breaking 10 commandments. I don't think I'd live long enough to break 613 commandments.
2012-11-16 01:00:00 PM  
1 votes:

TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


i.imgur.com

Yup, that's the Masonic Eye--the eye of God as the providential Great Architect. Its on our U.S. money of course, and so I'm guessing they wanted a fusion of historically idolatrous symbols used to represent God's favor on the American Experiment. Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth. So with the Bald Eagle on there they're getting a two'fer deal.
2012-11-16 12:55:12 PM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Well known Christian symbol


Well known Masonic symbol. Also appears on the dollar.
2012-11-16 12:54:16 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

1. It's okay to call hooters "knockers" and sometimes "snack trays."
2. It is wrong to be French.
3. It's okay to put all bad people in a giant meat grinder.
4. Lawyers: see rule three.
5. It is okay to drive a gas guzzler if it helps you get babes.
6. Everyone should car pool but me.
7. Bring back the word "stewardesses"
8. Synchronized Swimming is not a sport.
9. Mudwrestling is a sport.
2012-11-16 12:44:00 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


i.imgur.com
2012-11-16 12:42:40 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Legal disclaimers.
2012-11-16 12:33:00 PM  
1 votes:

toraque: It's really NOT misspelled. They just went back to the original texts and translated it properly from the Pnakotic fragments.

It's not "Remember the Sabbath" it's "Remember the Shoggoth"


upload.wikimedia.org
2012-11-16 12:29:58 PM  
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?


I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.
2012-11-16 12:29:39 PM  
1 votes:
It's really NOT misspelled. They just went back to the original texts and translated it properly from the Pnakotic fragments.

It's not "Remember the Sabbath" it's "Remember the Shoggoth"
 
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