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(KJRH Tulsa)   After three years in the making, Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma state capitol finally unveiled. Unfortunately during that three year period, no one ever thought to run a spell check on it   (kjrh.com) divider line 321
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2012-11-16 11:53:32 AM
So apparently Oklahoma is Jewish?
 
2012-11-16 11:56:19 AM
So... their tablets need to be updated?

/wait until they try the maps
 
2012-11-16 11:58:19 AM
Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
 
2012-11-16 11:58:38 AM
Geez - give God a break! There was no such thing as spell-check when he gave them to Moses!
 
2012-11-16 12:01:43 PM
Red state problems.
 
2012-11-16 12:05:37 PM
It was God's will that it be misspelled.
 
2012-11-16 12:06:20 PM
This certainly helps dispel the stereotypes.
 
2012-11-16 12:10:12 PM
The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?
 
2012-11-16 12:11:23 PM

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?
 
2012-11-16 12:13:38 PM
They can't even get spelling right on the Ten Commandments yet they're all experts on interpreting the entire Bible and how we all should follow its words?
 
2012-11-16 12:13:54 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


Probably not.
 
2012-11-16 12:15:54 PM
It's a sad day when you can't spell as well as Ozzy Osbourne.
 
2012-11-16 12:17:30 PM
Why is this being done again? Oh right, Oklahoma. I still wish I could figure out what they have to do with the grounds of the capitol building, though.
 
2012-11-16 12:20:09 PM
They also seemed to have forgotten about the whole "first amendment checker"
 
2012-11-16 12:21:01 PM

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?
 
2012-11-16 12:25:44 PM

Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?


Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.
 
2012-11-16 12:28:40 PM
The problem didn't seem to worry Oklahoma State Representative Mike Ritze, who paid $10,000 of his own money to see the monument's creation.

Shouldn't have hired that sh*tty tattoo artist to do it, Rep Cletus.
 
2012-11-16 12:29:39 PM
It's really NOT misspelled. They just went back to the original texts and translated it properly from the Pnakotic fragments.

It's not "Remember the Sabbath" it's "Remember the Shoggoth"
 
2012-11-16 12:29:58 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?


I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.
 
2012-11-16 12:30:29 PM

simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.


I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?
 
2012-11-16 12:30:47 PM
I'm not sure but I think I found another typo.  I'm pretty sure the 7th commandment isn't "Thou Shalt Get 'er Done".
 
2012-11-16 12:33:00 PM

toraque: It's really NOT misspelled. They just went back to the original texts and translated it properly from the Pnakotic fragments.

It's not "Remember the Sabbath" it's "Remember the Shoggoth"


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-16 12:33:28 PM

sweetmelissa31: The problem didn't seem to worry Oklahoma State Representative Mike Ritze, who paid $10,000 of his own money to see the monument's creation.

Shouldn't have hired that sh*tty tattoo artist to do it, Rep Cletus.


I lol'd.
 
2012-11-16 12:34:09 PM

Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?


Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.
 
2012-11-16 12:38:40 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Exceptions
 
2012-11-16 12:41:18 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

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i.imgur.com 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.
 
2012-11-16 12:42:12 PM

simplicimus: Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.


Maybe you do, but the Jews have 613 commandments. That whole "Maimonides" thing.
 
2012-11-16 12:42:40 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Legal disclaimers.
 
2012-11-16 12:44:00 PM

simplicimus: Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 12:51:47 PM

Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.


I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?
 
2012-11-16 12:52:36 PM

St_Francis_P: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

Legal disclaimers.


* Not valid outside the middle east
* probably some EULA
 
2012-11-16 12:53:26 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


Well known Christian symbol
 
2012-11-16 12:54:16 PM
i.imgur.com

1. It's okay to call hooters "knockers" and sometimes "snack trays."
2. It is wrong to be French.
3. It's okay to put all bad people in a giant meat grinder.
4. Lawyers: see rule three.
5. It is okay to drive a gas guzzler if it helps you get babes.
6. Everyone should car pool but me.
7. Bring back the word "stewardesses"
8. Synchronized Swimming is not a sport.
9. Mudwrestling is a sport.
 
2012-11-16 12:55:12 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Well known Christian symbol


Well known Masonic symbol. Also appears on the dollar.
 
2012-11-16 12:55:29 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

Exceptions


'm pretty sure there's something in the director's cut edition that has to do with loving thy neighbor being suspended when neighbor is gay, not stealing except when capitalism, and looking the other way about killing when the dead guy is brown
 
2012-11-16 12:56:53 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


the fine print.
 
2012-11-16 12:59:24 PM

Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?


11)Thou shalt not be a douche to your fellow man: seriously knock it off, even if they dress funny, speak a different language or have different colored skin

12) Thou shalt not try to forcefully impose your religion or morality on others: I am the lord your god, *I* got the whole revealing my will to others thing, mmkay?

13) Thou Shalt not be Smug:Before you got these tablets you were just a s big a sinner as that guy you are looking down on, so cut it out

14) IF thou seest a guy with a short mustache and a funny haircut coming to power in your country, thou shalt GTFO immediately

15) Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
2012-11-16 01:00:00 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


i.imgur.com

Yup, that's the Masonic Eye--the eye of God as the providential Great Architect. Its on our U.S. money of course, and so I'm guessing they wanted a fusion of historically idolatrous symbols used to represent God's favor on the American Experiment. Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth. So with the Bald Eagle on there they're getting a two'fer deal.
 
2012-11-16 01:00:31 PM

Somacandra: simplicimus: Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

Maybe you do, but the Jews have 613 commandments. That whole "Maimonides" thing.


I have a hard enough time breaking 10 commandments. I don't think I'd live long enough to break 613 commandments.
 
2012-11-16 01:00:43 PM

simplicimus: MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Well known Christian symbol

Well known Masonic symbol. Also appears on the dollar.


I knew that

/I'm a smartass, remember?
 
2012-11-16 01:01:31 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Man's relationship with animals. Indiana Santorum found the lost tablets, so he knows what he's talking about when talks about a man and a turtle.
 
2012-11-16 01:04:25 PM

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two three two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


lesposen.files.wordpress.com

Oy.
 
2012-11-16 01:05:14 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Well known Christian symbol

Well known Masonic symbol. Also appears on the dollar.

I knew that

/I'm a smartass, remember?


Good to know. Have you Favorited as smartass.
 
2012-11-16 01:07:10 PM

Magorn: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

11)Thou shalt not be a douche to your fellow man: seriously knock it off, even if they dress funny, speak a different language or have different colored skin

12) Thou shalt not try to forcefully impose your religion or morality on others: I am the lord your god, *I* got the whole revealing my will to others thing, mmkay?

13) Thou Shalt not be Smug:Before you got these tablets you were just a s big a sinner as that guy you are looking down on, so cut it out

14) IF thou seest a guy with a short mustache and a funny haircut coming to power in your country, thou shalt GTFO immediately

15) Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


16) Thou shalt read the thread before posting your Mel Brooks jpg, to make sure your Very Clever Joke hasn't already been beaten to death long before you got here.

*shakes fist at thread*
 
2012-11-16 01:07:54 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


The other 5 were simply advisory, and dealt with interpersonal relationships. Some biblical scholars believe that they read as follows:

11. Favor thine brothers before harlots.
12. If there be grass on the field, though mayest play ball.
13. Stickest not thy manhood into crazy.
14. Once thou hast gone black, thou shalt not again go back.
15. Remember always: No matter how fetching appearest thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's maidservant, some man, somewhere, and quite possibly thy neighbor, hath grown weary of her excrement.
 
2012-11-16 01:12:27 PM
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-11-16 01:14:38 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Girl on girl.
 
2012-11-16 01:15:47 PM

Cyberluddite: The other 5 were simply advisory, and dealt with interpersonal relationships. Some biblical scholars believe that they read as follows:

11. Favor thine brothers before harlots.
12. If there be grass on the field, though mayest play ball.
13. Stickest not thy manhood into crazy.
14. Once thou hast gone black, thou shalt not again go back.
15. Remember always: No matter how fetching appearest thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's maidservant, some man, somewhere, and quite possibly thy neighbor, hath grown weary of her excrement.


+1 Internets.
 
2012-11-16 01:20:23 PM
Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?
 
2012-11-16 01:23:54 PM

kid_icarus: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

the fine print.


j/k
 
2012-11-16 01:24:59 PM

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Well there WERE, but if you read the Old Testament literally God went all Michael Corleone on them and consoldiated the Family business
 
2012-11-16 01:25:23 PM

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.
 
2012-11-16 01:32:12 PM

doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.


And He was married at the time. King David did his best to wipe out all mention of Her.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:10 PM
I was wondering what was wrong with desiring a small, high-pitched, transverse flute.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:45 PM

doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.


"Let us make man in our own image."
 
2012-11-16 01:47:54 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."


Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.
 
2012-11-16 01:53:05 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."


God has thirteen "attributes."

simplicimus: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.


Clearly we are the product of groupthink.
 
2012-11-16 01:56:53 PM
You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-11-16 02:00:53 PM

unlikely: want their state to succeed from the US


And they're doing very well, too!
 
2012-11-16 02:04:46 PM

wee: unlikely: want their state to succeed from the US

And they're doing very well, too!


As long as they don't try to secede.
 
2012-11-16 02:06:26 PM
Wait a second...

You mean to tell me it's not "Thou shalt not omit adultery"?
 
2012-11-16 02:08:08 PM

Diogenes: God has thirteen "attributes."



Which, while I recognize that theology as coming from the Kabbalah, is an exceptionally Hindu thing to say. Apparently Hinduism is technically Monotheistic in that they say that the "big three" SHiva Vishnu and Brahamin are actually emanations of the original Pan-universal Godhead Atman, and all the lesser gods and goddesses are in turn manifestations of the big three
 
2012-11-16 02:09:40 PM

Friskya: Wait a second...

You mean to tell me it's not "Thou shalt not omit adultery"?


That's on the third tablet;
* Thou shalt not commit adultery during weekends and holidays.
 
2012-11-16 02:16:13 PM

Magorn: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Well there WERE, but if you read the Old Testament literally God went all Michael Corleone on them and consoldiated the Family business



I hear He shot Enlil right in the eye.
 
2012-11-16 02:18:15 PM

Diogenes: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

God has thirteen "attributes."

simplicimus: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.

Clearly we are the product of groupthink.


Gives new meaning to "cloudsource."
 
2012-11-16 02:19:47 PM
Don't worry everyone, a lady from spain is going to restore this. She has experience with these things.
 
2012-11-16 02:23:21 PM
i26.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-16 02:27:16 PM

Magorn: Diogenes: God has thirteen "attributes."


Which, while I recognize that theology as coming from the Kabbalah, is an exceptionally Hindu thing to say. Apparently Hinduism is technically Monotheistic in that they say that the "big three" SHiva Vishnu and Brahamin are actually emanations of the original Pan-universal Godhead Atman, and all the lesser gods and goddesses are in turn manifestations of the big three


Different archetypes. Same way of slicing and dicing the universe.

/jung
 
2012-11-16 02:32:39 PM
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-11-16 02:32:57 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


That was the honey-do list his wife gave him.
 
2012-11-16 02:45:38 PM
Oklahoma Ten Commandments:

1. Thall shalt not worship anyone other than Ralph Dale Earnhardt, Sr.
2. Take off your hat at the table.
3. Remember to watch the OSU game
4. Do what your Pappy says, and don't sass your Mama.
5. You shall not kill without a permit or outside hunting season
6. If I catch you and your teenage cousin alone in the barn again....
7. Don't take nuthin that ain't yours.
8. Lies make baby Jesus cry
9. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
10. Rubbin' is racin'
 
2012-11-16 02:57:35 PM

Pud: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

That was the honey-do list his wife gave him.


Outside of "Keep the Palm trees watered", what else would be on the list?
 
2012-11-16 03:02:02 PM
You'd think God would fix the typos for them. Ungrateful bastard.
 
2012-11-16 03:03:14 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Probably something about not buggering sheep.
 
2012-11-16 03:21:03 PM

give me doughnuts: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

Probably something about not buggering sheep.


Paging Mr. Black... Will Mr. Lewis Black please pick up the Fark courtesy phone?

Around the 4:08 mark.
 
2012-11-16 03:30:21 PM
Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?
 
2012-11-16 03:36:09 PM

DamnYankees: Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?


"Be excellent to each other."
That covers the secular part.
 
2012-11-16 03:53:00 PM
Teh Ten Commandments.
 
2012-11-16 03:53:38 PM
2nd page and not this yet. Farkers are slipping
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-16 03:55:42 PM
The misspellings are there on purpose so that those who break them have an out.
 
2012-11-16 03:57:09 PM
that monument looks like a butt
 
2012-11-16 03:57:43 PM

Loucifer: Teh Ten Commandments.


1 Then Ceiling Cat spoked all them werds:

2 I iz Ceiling Cat An I iz Top Cat, An I broughted u out of hawt litturbawx wit no cheezbrgrs for hard mousin at all

3 No can has other ceiling cat!! U gotz other Ceiling Cat, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes. Srsly.

4 If u try be Ceiling Cat of any of mai creayshunz up in floaty skai, down in erth or in watr or I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes.

5 If u think faek Ceiling Cat iz Ceiling Cat, I mek u ded An ur kittenz ded An if yur kittenz have kittenz, dey be ded too, for being stupid and stuffs.

6 If not I wuv u An all ur lotz uf kittenz!

7 U sez Ceiling Cat bad, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes, cuz I dun liek it. Srsly.

8 Remembur Caturday An keep holy.

9 U ketch mousies 6 dais An finish ketchin, K?

10 Caturday, u no ketchin mousies. U An all ur peepz go wrship me. And, if yu beez gudd, I maks it so yu can stays home and do alla stuffs yu wanted tu doos.

11 I maded heavenz An erth An see An the stuff that does teh funney hoppey stuffz in An on it - so I make it holy cuz I no ketch mousies.

12 Bez u good to papa kitteh An mama kitteh so u has long nine liefs.

13 U no maek peepz ded with teh malice! Srsly!

14 U no maek sexxes wit other gurlz or menz than urs (that mi jobz!).

15 U no taek cheezburgerz for free if not getz for free.

16 U no tell bad stuff ov ur neibor.

17 U no wantz neibor cheezburgerz! No wief, no gurlz, no menz, no abimalz, NO BUKKITZ! DEY NOT UR BUKKITZ, K? dey da LOLrus' bukkits.

18 When peepz see mai great orkestr wit thundr An all cool speshul effects thei wur scairdey wimps

19 Thei sed to Mozus 'U goez speek to uz An we will listen; but Ceiling Cat will shoot us wit His lazer eyes!'

20 Mozus LOL'd lotz, An a bit moar, for thei wuz such scairdies, An sed 'Ceiling Cat no maek u ded; he just wantz to hav fun wit u gais An maek u scairdey cats so u obei him.'

21 But peepz wur still scairdies An let Mozus go ther to Ceiling Cat.
Ceiling Cat roolz for idles an alters
22 Ceiling Cat sez "Tellz them scairdies: 'U see I meowed to u from big ceilingz.

23 U no mek me of silvar or goldz.

24 U mek me altar of kitteh-litturz An gif me pwnz0rzed animulz ther An I gif u cheezburgr.

25 But u no maek me altar of bjutiful stonez. DO NOT WANT!

26 An u no use steps on altar or I can see ur penises. DO NOT WANT!"
 
2012-11-16 03:59:03 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-11-16 04:01:20 PM
White-Out can fix anything...
 
2012-11-16 04:02:08 PM
I like these more:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-16 04:02:14 PM
Can't fix it.
It's God's will.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:01 PM
Is it just me or is the "take his name in vain" one misspelled "tahe"? "Thou shalt not kill" seems to have a distinctly different looking "k"
 
2012-11-16 04:05:03 PM
I'm glad the ACLU decided to stand down, this time. As long as they don't try to correct the spelling, it should be allowed to stand. As a monument to........well, I'm sure you can all figure that out.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:14 PM
Look, proper spelling is for elitists. If the faithful feel that the monument is correct, then the monument is correct. Why do you hate Jesus and God and the angels and Heaven and 'Murca, and George Washington and Liberty teeth?
 
2012-11-16 04:05:46 PM
>$10k for a ga'damned headstone that isn't even spelled right?

Fundies are suckers, but I repeat myself.


/they forgot a crying eagle
 
GBB
2012-11-16 04:05:48 PM
If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.
 
2012-11-16 04:06:31 PM

St_Francis_P: This certainly helps dispel the stereotypes.


So mote it be.
 
2012-11-16 04:08:06 PM

simplicimus: DamnYankees: Serious question - how many of the ten commandments actually make sense for a secular person? 3?

"Be excellent to each other."
That covers the secular part.


lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-16 04:08:38 PM
I was hoping to see this make Fark.
 
2012-11-16 04:09:15 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


FTFY
 
2012-11-16 04:09:17 PM

vernonFL: Oklahoma Ten Commandments:

1. Thall shalt not worship anyone other than Ralph Dale Earnhardt, Sr.
2. Take off your hat at the table.
3. Remember to watch the OSU game
4. Do what your Pappy says, and don't sass your Mama.
5. You shall not kill without a permit or outside hunting season
6. If I catch you and your teenage cousin alone in the barn again....
7. Don't take nuthin that ain't yours.
8. Lies make baby Jesus cry
9. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
10. Rubbin' is racin'


Almost. Except most of the redneck types in Oklahoma are OU fans, though they never set foot on campus.
 
2012-11-16 04:10:18 PM

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?
 
2012-11-16 04:11:04 PM
It looks more like they buried the 10 commandments there and put up that marker.
 
2012-11-16 04:11:36 PM

gilgigamesh: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two three two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

[lesposen.files.wordpress.com image 648x292]
Oy.


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-11-16 04:12:14 PM
Jesus weapt.
 
2012-11-16 04:12:15 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?


If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-16 04:12:22 PM
That Ryan Kiesel sounds like a great guy.
 
2012-11-16 04:13:22 PM

jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?


It doesn't say how many on each. Just says there were tablets.
 
2012-11-16 04:13:40 PM
I've thought for a long time that trouble with spelling is largely due lack of reading or, at the very least, not paying attention to the words one reads.

This is very consistent with many Christians not even bothering to read their own Bible or pay much attention to it beyond the parts they like.
 
2012-11-16 04:13:49 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-16 04:14:59 PM

DamnYankees: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

It doesn't say how many on each. Just says there were tablets.


That was my understanding as well, but the person I quoted seemed to have his knickers in a knot over something...
 
2012-11-16 04:15:46 PM
So Oklahoman bible-thumpers are retards. Whodathinkit?
 
2012-11-16 04:17:01 PM
narwhaler.com
 
2012-11-16 04:17:57 PM
 
2012-11-16 04:19:00 PM
They don't follow them themselves, and they can't even spell them right, but they expect the rest of the country to follow them without question?

Separation of church and state, people. Freedom of AND from religion. Practice what you preach, and get with the times.
 
2012-11-16 04:20:10 PM

jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?


Well, it's implied from the Talmud. 5 and 5 on two tablets. Might be in the OT,
 
2012-11-16 04:20:23 PM
Thou shalt not Kiln????


What's God got against ceramics?????
 
2012-11-16 04:21:19 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

Exceptions


Aliens
 
2012-11-16 04:22:07 PM

Diogenes:
Different archetypes. Same way of slicing and dicing the universe.

/jung


Same archetypes, different slicing and dicing with em.

/archetypes is archetypes
//nobody cares that everyone uses the same damn ideas
///because everyone's ideas are DIFFERENT, ya see!
 
2012-11-16 04:22:28 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: They don't follow them themselves, and they can't even spell them right, but they expect the rest of the country to follow them without question?

Separation of church and state, people. Freedom of AND from religion. Practice what you preach, and get with the times.


Practice what you preach?
 
2012-11-16 04:22:48 PM

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Clapton.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:57 PM

Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?


It was that thing about abortion
 
2012-11-16 04:24:07 PM

Diogenes: God has thirteen "attributes."


upload.wikimedia.org

He's also quite Heartless in the OT and with his lack of caring today, as well as being a formless Nobody in description.

/ignore the small dark-haired girl, she's not an official member
 
2012-11-16 04:25:27 PM
I have always wondered how one "simply fixes" a spelling or artistic error on a monument, anyone know? Seems like if you screw that up, it's a re-do.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:27 PM
It's like the Constitution: it's not like they're going to read it or anything.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:41 PM
"Do what thou wilt, but be cool."

/obscure?
 
2012-11-16 04:28:39 PM
I guess they are going to have to abort this monument and try again.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:13 PM

jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]


Just to be clear, Christians don't follow the Ten Commandments. Christ told his followers they didn't have to follow Old Testament law anymore, which is good because I really like cheeseburgers and lobsters, and I've got this awesome wool and nylon coat that keeps me nice and warm and toasty in the winter. I'm also really enjoy cooking food on Saturdays, and I get a kick out of the 15 year mortgage on my house.

But enough about all the ways that I violate God's law every day. Obviously, the Ten Commandments have nothing to do with Christians. I want to talk about people who do still follow the Ten Commandments. Like Muslims. Maybe the person who put this up is Muslim; someone should call up Oklahoma State Representative Mike Ritze and ask him if he put up a Muslim monument because he likes Sharia Law or something.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:35 PM

Cyberluddite:
The other 5 were simply advisory, and dealt with interpersonal relationships. Some biblical scholars believe that they read as follows:

11. Favor thine brothers before harlots.
12. If there be grass on the field, though mayest play ball.
13. Stickest not thy manhood into crazy.
14. Once thou hast gone black, thou shalt not again go back.
15. Remember always: No matter how fetching appearest thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's maidservant, some man, somewhere, and quite possibly thy neighbor, hath grown weary of her excrement.


O.K., that sh*t was hilarious!!
 
2012-11-16 04:30:54 PM

basemetal: I was hoping to see this make Fark.


So when do we get our own tag??
 
2012-11-16 04:31:06 PM
How do you misspell "derp"?
 
2012-11-16 04:31:47 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Diogenes: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

God has thirteen "attributes."

simplicimus: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.

Clearly we are the product of groupthink.

Gives new meaning to "cloudsource."


Honest to um, right... anyway I read that as "Clownsource".
 
2012-11-16 04:32:46 PM

Optimus Primate: I have always wondered how one "simply fixes" a spelling or artistic error on a monument, anyone know? Seems like if you screw that up, it's a re-do.


Just place a quick call to Kruger Industrial Smoothing.
 
2012-11-16 04:32:58 PM
What a bunch of smacktards.
 
2012-11-16 04:34:23 PM

toraque: It's really NOT misspelled. They just went back to the original texts and translated it properly from the Pnakotic fragments.

It's not "Remember the Sabbath" it's "Remember the Shoggoth"


A little farther south, it would be "Remember the Alamo"
 
2012-11-16 04:34:50 PM

simplicimus: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

Well, it's implied from the Talmud. 5 and 5 on two tablets. Might be in the OT,


Where does it say in the OT that there were 10 commandments?  I can't find the number of commandments anywhere in the Bible. It looks like someone just took the words that God said and sort and said "meh... that's somewhere between 9 and 13, depending on how you divide 'em up. Let's say there's about 10. And different religions can argue about how to number them for the next few thousand years."
 
2012-11-16 04:37:17 PM
There's a second set of Commandments in Exodus 34, possibly another in Deuteronomy, but that's for scholars/ theologians, not doctrinaires as these OK folks are.
That's not Stars of David at the base of the monument. The Sign of Silence is given. 93/93
 
2012-11-16 04:38:17 PM
"O-klahoma, every night my Aunt Louise and I...."
 
2012-11-16 04:39:34 PM

jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]


Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.
 
2012-11-16 04:40:05 PM

Diogenes: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

God has thirteen "attributes."

simplicimus: God Is My Co-Pirate: doyner: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Indefinite article. I.e., one of several. God admits he's not alone more than once.

"Let us make man in our own image."

Great. I knew man must have been designed by a committee.

Clearly we are the product of groupthink.


Why else would we have a recreation area next to a waste disposal facility?
 
2012-11-16 04:40:49 PM
Why not make a monument engraved with the 1st amendment to the constitution of the united states of america instead?
 
2012-11-16 04:41:04 PM

SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.


Nor any golden tablets.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:50 PM

SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.


Except for that trumpet guy on top of all their churches.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:56 PM
Don't worry, they'll have to take it down anyway.
 
2012-11-16 04:43:08 PM

The Larch: simplicimus: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

Well, it's implied from the Talmud. 5 and 5 on two tablets. Might be in the OT,

Where does it say in the OT that there were 10 commandments?  I can't find the number of commandments anywhere in the Bible. It looks like someone just took the words that God said and sort and said "meh... that's somewhere between 9 and 13, depending on how you divide 'em up. Let's say there's about 10. And different religions can argue about how to number them for the next few thousand years."


How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of Exodus 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.
 
2012-11-16 04:43:12 PM

GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.


I don't think the current U.S. tax code would fit on Mount Rushmore much less such a small stone tablet.
 
2012-11-16 04:44:32 PM

GhettoWinter: SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.

Except for that trumpet guy on top of all their churches.


he's an angel named Moroni. He's supposedly the son of a prophet named Mormon. hence the name of the book.
 
2012-11-16 04:45:31 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: Loucifer: Teh Ten Commandments.

1 Then Ceiling Cat spoked all them werds:

2 I iz Ceiling Cat An I iz Top Cat, An I broughted u out of hawt litturbawx wit no cheezbrgrs for hard mousin at all

3 No can has other ceiling cat!! U gotz other Ceiling Cat, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes. Srsly.

4 If u try be Ceiling Cat of any of mai creayshunz up in floaty skai, down in erth or in watr or I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes.

5 If u think faek Ceiling Cat iz Ceiling Cat, I mek u ded An ur kittenz ded An if yur kittenz have kittenz, dey be ded too, for being stupid and stuffs.

6 If not I wuv u An all ur lotz uf kittenz!

7 U sez Ceiling Cat bad, I shoot yous wit mah lollazer eyes, cuz I dun liek it. Srsly.

8 Remembur Caturday An keep holy.

9 U ketch mousies 6 dais An finish ketchin, K?

10 Caturday, u no ketchin mousies. U An all ur peepz go wrship me. And, if yu beez gudd, I maks it so yu can stays home and do alla stuffs yu wanted tu doos.

11 I maded heavenz An erth An see An the stuff that does teh funney hoppey stuffz in An on it - so I make it holy cuz I no ketch mousies.

12 Bez u good to papa kitteh An mama kitteh so u has long nine liefs.

13 U no maek peepz ded with teh malice! Srsly!

14 U no maek sexxes wit other gurlz or menz than urs (that mi jobz!).

15 U no taek cheezburgerz for free if not getz for free.

16 U no tell bad stuff ov ur neibor.

17 U no wantz neibor cheezburgerz! No wief, no gurlz, no menz, no abimalz, NO BUKKITZ! DEY NOT UR BUKKITZ, K? dey da LOLrus' bukkits.

18 When peepz see mai great orkestr wit thundr An all cool speshul effects thei wur scairdey wimps

19 Thei sed to Mozus 'U goez speek to uz An we will listen; but Ceiling Cat will shoot us wit His lazer eyes!'

20 Mozus LOL'd lotz, An a bit moar, for thei wuz such scairdies, An sed 'Ceiling Cat no maek u ded; he just wantz to hav fun wit u gais An maek u scairdey cats so u obei him.'

21 But peepz wur still scairdies An let Mozus go ther to Ceiling Cat.
Ceiling Cat roolz for idles an alters
22 Ceiling Cat sez "Tellz them scairdies: 'U see I meowed to u from big ceilingz.

23 U no mek me of silvar or goldz.

24 U mek me altar of kitteh-litturz An gif me pwnz0rzed animulz ther An I gif u cheezburgr.

25 But u no maek me altar of bjutiful stonez. DO NOT WANT!

26 An u no use steps on altar or I can see ur penises. DO NOT WANT!"


Wow.. Just wow...

I'd have lost patience trying to write that about six verses in.

Funny stuff!

/is it caturday yet? I wants to worship da kitteez
 
2012-11-16 04:47:57 PM

simplicimus: MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Well known Christian symbol

Well known Masonic symbol. Also appears on the dollar.

I knew that

/I'm a smartass, remember?

Good to know. Have you Favorited as smartass.


I read it in a smart-ass voice. I knew he was being a smart ass...somehow.
 
2012-11-16 04:48:41 PM
I thought in the case of legitimate misspelling a monument had a way of shutting that whole thing down,.
 
2012-11-16 04:48:43 PM

SquiggsIN: GhettoWinter: SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.

Except for that trumpet guy on top of all their churches.

he's an angel named Moroni. He's supposedly the son of a prophet named Mormon. hence the name of the book.


SquiggsIN: GhettoWinter: SquiggsIN: jshine: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

If there is, just about every church on Earth is violating it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x313]

Mormons are one of the few christian denominations i've noticed that use no images of their 'savior' You won't find so much as a single cross in one of their churches.

Except for that trumpet guy on top of all their churches.

he's an angel named Moroni. He's supposedly the son of a prophet named Mormon. hence the name of the book.


Always just figured that was ol Joe Smith and never bothered to look it up.
 
2012-11-16 04:48:43 PM
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 04:49:22 PM

GhettoWinter: Why not make a monument engraved with the 1st amendment to the constitution of the united states of america instead?


You're going straight to hell.
 
2012-11-16 04:50:35 PM
Seriously?
 
2012-11-16 04:52:20 PM

metallion: Thou shalt not Kiln????


What's God got against ceramics?????


I don't know. Still haven't figured out the part about the Cheesemakers from the NT.
 
2012-11-16 04:52:36 PM

simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of Exodus 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.


The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.
 
2012-11-16 04:53:34 PM

jshine: DamnYankees: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

It doesn't say how many on each. Just says there were tablets.

That was my understanding as well, but the person I quoted seemed to have his knickers in a knot over something...


I always assumed that there being two tablets, with a number of commandments divisible by two, that it would be fairly likely that the distribution of commandments would be equal.

/symmetry is important!
//disclaimer: tablets never existed. Fairy tale mythology is not affected by logic
 
2012-11-16 04:55:29 PM

dopekitty74: jshine: DamnYankees: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

It doesn't say how many on each. Just says there were tablets.

That was my understanding as well, but the person I quoted seemed to have his knickers in a knot over something...

I always assumed that there being two tablets, with a number of commandments divisible by two, that it would be fairly likely that the distribution of commandments would be equal.

/symmetry is important!
//disclaimer: tablets never existed. Fairy tale mythology is not affected by logic


"But they were Golden, I told you..."
 
2012-11-16 04:56:54 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


Seeing.
 
2012-11-16 04:58:52 PM
I never run a spell check, either. Because I'm not farking illiterate.
 
2012-11-16 04:59:35 PM
The people who think putting up crap like this is important aren't smart enough to notice the misspellings.
 
2012-11-16 04:59:45 PM

Gyrfalcon: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Seeing.


"I see...see?"
 
2012-11-16 05:00:46 PM

gregario: The people who think putting up crap like this is important aren't smart enough to notice the misspellings.


*zing*
 
2012-11-16 05:00:58 PM
The One Commandment:


TRY NOT TO BE A DICK
 
2012-11-16 05:00:59 PM

OccamsWhiskers: I never run a spell check, either. Because I'm not farking illiterate.


Seems to me that illiterate people would be the last ones to care about running a spell check.
 
2012-11-16 05:01:52 PM

give me doughnuts: The One Commandment:


TRY NOT TO BE A DICK


You first.
 
2012-11-16 05:02:37 PM

give me doughnuts: The One Commandment:


TRY NOT TO BE A DICK


ooh graham that's too hard for me
www.eegra.com
 
2012-11-16 05:03:51 PM

Indubitably: Gyrfalcon: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

Seeing.

"I see...see?"


Si.
 
2012-11-16 05:05:39 PM

The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.


Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.
 
2012-11-16 05:07:40 PM

simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.

Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.


"...brings up back..."?

What are you saying?

You are incoherent.

*)
 
2012-11-16 05:08:33 PM

simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.


More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D
 
2012-11-16 05:08:44 PM

Indubitably: simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.

Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.

"...brings up back..."?

What are you saying?

You are incoherent.

*)


And you would know, my dear. *smack*
 
2012-11-16 05:10:04 PM
From TFA: "They are a reputable company that does monuments all over the country and the state."

Reads just like a line from Atlas Shrugged as to the justification of governmental regulation of industries.
 
2012-11-16 05:10:06 PM
English is the Devil's language.
 
2012-11-16 05:10:23 PM
What a tacky, hideous piece of shiat. Also, I'm sure the three Jews in Oklahoma appreciate the Star of David at the bottom, but I think the First Commandment is missing a few words if we're going the semetic route.
 
2012-11-16 05:10:50 PM

Indubitably: You are incoherent.

*)


images2.wikia.nocookie.net 
ohai god sez hai
 
2012-11-16 05:14:33 PM

Gyrfalcon: Indubitably: simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.

Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.

"...brings up back..."?

What are you saying?

You are incoherent.

*)

And you would know, my dear. *smack*


Would I?

I know what I mean; why don't you?

Maybe it's your perception?
 
2012-11-16 05:14:35 PM

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D


In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due to my increased exposure to this group) seem especially offended when confronted with the Pagan origins of many of their most treasured traditions.
 
2012-11-16 05:15:09 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Indubitably: You are incoherent.

*)

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 203x265] 
ohai god sez hai


Perception: what is it?
 
2012-11-16 05:16:33 PM
What a bunch of dummases.
 
2012-11-16 05:16:33 PM

Indubitably: simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.

Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.

"...brings up back..."?

What are you saying?

You are incoherent.

*)


Way up thread I mentioned the Talmud's parsing of the 10 commandments, first 5 about man and God, second 5 about man and man.
 
2012-11-16 05:17:31 PM

DubyaHater: What a tacky, hideous piece of shiat. Also, I'm sure the three Jews in Oklahoma appreciate the Star of David at the bottom, but I think the First Commandment is missing a few words if we're going the semetic route.


The Christian version is more properly known as The Ten Commandments Lite. I'll have to up-charge you if you want the Jewish Classic version.
 
2012-11-16 05:18:22 PM

simplicimus: Indubitably: simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.

The Talmud is just fan fiction for the Old Testament that the Jews wrote about 1,000 years ago.

The Bible itself doesn't say anywhere that there are Ten Commandments, and different sects can't even agree with each other on how to split up Exodus 20:1-17 into ten different chunks.

Heck, Christ said there two commandments, And he said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Which brings up back to the Talmudic interpretation of 5 and 5.

"...brings up back..."?

What are you saying?

You are incoherent.

*)

Way up thread I mentioned the Talmud's parsing of the 10 commandments, first 5 about man and God, second 5 about man and man.


Got it. Thank you.
 
2012-11-16 05:22:04 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


The third tablet is man's relationship with sheep.
 
2012-11-16 05:22:47 PM
The graven image commandment is only to the Levites.

Secondly, the monument was made in Kenya.
 
2012-11-16 05:23:39 PM

kid_icarus: simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.

the fine print.


Thou shalt not take The Ten Commandments rectally
Thou shalt consult thy priest, pastor, or preacher before using The Ten Commandments
Thou shalt take The Ten Commandments in their entirety
Discontinue use of The Ten Commandments if thou dost experience any of the following: fainting, dizziness, speaking in tongues, or homicidal/suicidal thoughts or actions. Side effects may be worse for teens, young adults, and the elderly
Thou hast no chance to survive make your time

/Okay, I ran out of ideas on that last one
 
2012-11-16 05:24:08 PM
"The ACLU of Oklahoma strongly defends the right of Oklahomans to make their own decisions about faith and religion, and encourages lawmakers to spend more time governing our state and less time concocting schemes that divide our people along their deeply held and personal beliefs"

No one is taking aways their ability to decide their own faith you wad of douchebaggery.
 
2012-11-16 05:24:38 PM

Somacandra: simplicimus: Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

Maybe you do, but the Jews have 613 commandments. That whole "Maimonides" thing.


And technically, the Ten Commandments aren't supposed to be binding on non-Jewish people anyways--the Jewish people are bound by the 613 mitzvot whilst non-Jewish people (including other "people of the book") are supposed to be bound by the Noahide laws (which are generally considered to be basic universal laws of morality; the Ten Commandments were basically like an early basis of law, with the 613 mitzvot becoming binding when Judaism proper began its proper development after settlement in Israel).

For that matter, it's probably a good thing for them that dominionist "Ten Commandments" fetishists don't seem to be aware of the halachic requirements for transcribing the Torah and particularly the words of the Most High--these must be written by hand, and if so much as a letter is mistranscribed (not implausible in the Hebrew alphabet which does include optional "jot" and "titter" diacritics to indicate vowels, intonation, cantillation, etc. because traditionally the Torah is sung) the entire parchment or scroll has to be ritually destroyed--oh, and granite rock with the national symbols of the United States also generally isn't considered proper material to be writing the Ten Commandments on, either. :D (And yes, it's actually one of the 613 mitzvot to participate in the production of a proper Torah scroll. Most folks aren't scribes and contribute by helping purchase the materials and/or labour required to make one for the synagogue.)
 
2012-11-16 05:25:45 PM

Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.


I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist
 
2012-11-16 05:28:11 PM

SquiggsIN


he's an angel named Moroni. He's supposedly the son of a prophet named Mormon. hence the name of the book.


But then he got deported to Sweden. He claimed he wasn't from there. 


Sonamambatches
 
2012-11-16 05:31:06 PM
F7
 
2012-11-16 05:33:05 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: SquiggsIN

he's an angel named Moroni. He's supposedly the son of a prophet named Mormon. hence the name of the book.


But then he got deported to Sweden. He claimed he wasn't from there. 


Sonamambatches


He moved there for pussy, if anything.
 
2012-11-16 05:33:52 PM

unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.


Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.
 
2012-11-16 05:34:05 PM

SquiggsIN: In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due to my increased exposure to this group) seem especially offended when confronted with the Pagan origins of many of their most treasured traditions.


Which to me is actually really farking sad...I actually LIKE the "backstory" and find it makes some of the weirder (non-blatantly-supernatural) stuff make more sense (then again, I also REALLY like "colour text" in RPGs and tabletop games, so I'll admit a skewed interest there). To me, knowing that all the stuff about golden calves and all in the Bible is pretty much people going back to the "old religion" is colour text that makes the other stuff seem more interesting...then again, I also tend to consider the Bible as an attempt by people to explain the world, not as an object for idolatry (or Bibolatry, as the case may be).

(I also tend to find the book of Revelation/Apocalypse hilarious and enlightening...as a heavily-coded political cartoon poking RIGHT at Rome in the style of a Doonesbury comic or the better runs of "Bloom County". Probably the only way the work could have gotten out without the author being executed, at that. Still head-desk how a political cartoon somehow made it into the Christian canon, and head-desk further at people who apparently take it as a sign of the End Of Days rather than as a political cartoon against Roman repression of Christianity (which was being played up as a Horrible Cult and Menace to Society and which was the subject of an organised blood libel at the time...much as Christians would later do with neopagan groups, and earlier with Judaism) of which the meaning was "this too shall pass and we'll eventually prosper if we keep the good road".)
 
2012-11-16 05:34:35 PM
i911.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 05:35:49 PM

JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist


Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.
 
2012-11-16 05:36:45 PM

MadameX: [i911.photobucket.com image 392x400]


That's Anton.

Not Satan.

Hooman.

*)
 
2012-11-16 05:38:02 PM
I've asked before, and I am sure I'll ask again: What is it about conservatism that makes it mutually exclusive with spelling and grammar?
 
2012-11-16 05:39:10 PM
That's neet
 
2012-11-16 05:42:35 PM

Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.


They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?
 
2012-11-16 05:42:55 PM

AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.


And you need a lesson in sarcasm/satire.
 
2012-11-16 05:44:24 PM

SweetSaws: That's neet


I'm gud.
 
2012-11-16 05:45:06 PM
hhmmmm....can't wait to move outa this state
 
2012-11-16 05:45:18 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


They prefer to beat people over the head with it and stuff it down their throats.
 
2012-11-16 05:45:36 PM
The problem didn't seem to worry Oklahoma State Representative Mike Ritze, who paid $10,000 of his own money to see the monument's creation.

Those words should be chiseled into the bottom of the monument, so everyone remembers the politician who thought this would be a good idea.
 
2012-11-16 05:46:32 PM

hawtnurse: hhmmmm....can't wait to move outa this state


Bye.
 
2012-11-16 05:47:02 PM

GhettoWinter: Why not make a monument engraved with the 1st amendment to the constitution of the united states of america instead?


Because that would be un-Christian. Compare the 1st Amendment to the 1st Commandment. They couldn't disagree more.
 
2012-11-16 05:48:06 PM

SquiggsIN: AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

And you need a lesson in sarcasm/satire.


Oh. Sorry. My irony filter was shut off.

As you were.
 
2012-11-16 05:48:32 PM

Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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[i.imgur.com image 537x699] 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.


The top looks like boobs.
 
2012-11-16 05:49:13 PM

AssAsInAssassin: SquiggsIN: AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

And you need a lesson in sarcasm/satire.

Oh. Sorry. My irony filter was shut off.

As you were.


Asperger's?
 
2012-11-16 05:52:20 PM

AssAsInAssassin: Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.


Meme fail.

The first is a pretty famous teabagger sign:

www.superpoop.com

Can't find an example of the second one but it's a pretty common error made by subliterate teabagger mouthbreathers.
 
2012-11-16 05:52:32 PM
Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

Follow the constitution, except for the parts we disagree with.
/asshats
 
2012-11-16 05:52:38 PM
People who believe in fairy tales aren't the type to bother with things like correct spelling.
 
2012-11-16 05:54:17 PM

clyph: AssAsInAssassin: Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

Meme fail.

The first is a pretty famous teabagger sign:

[www.superpoop.com image 300x435]

Can't find an example of the second one but it's a pretty common error made by subliterate teabagger mouthbreathers.



The real WTF is that he seems to be dressed like a colonial soldier. Wrong historical event, dumbass.
 
2012-11-16 05:55:47 PM

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D


I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis. I get the feeling that the Hebrews as a nomadic tribe of herdsmen blundered into the relatively advanced and polytheistic culture of Mesopotamia and tried to mesh up their simple set of gods with a complicated one.

Look at the story of Cain and Abel, and all the stuff in Genesis--it's really clear that it was a herding culture that distrusted the agricultural folk of the cities.
 
2012-11-16 05:56:08 PM

SquiggsIN: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due to my increased exposure to this group) seem especially offended when confronted with the Pagan origins of many of their most treasured traditions.


Try seeking out educated Christians. The college where I teach has a seminary attached to it. In addition to my wife being a theology grad student, I am friends with a good number of the other faculty members. Ever gotten together to watch MST3k with an Old Testament prof, two theologians, a historian, and a philosopher? It's an experience. I have found that the PhD-holding types (including the conservative ones) love learning about the cultural context in which their religious traditions developed. I find that it is those who never dig any deeper than their childhood Sunday School lessons (or maybe get a 2-year diploma from a local Bible College) that are the ones who see scholarly inquiry as a threat.

On the other hand, it also might have something to do with your approach. If you launch discussions of these topics with the attitude that you are "explaining away" their religion as "nothing but" carry-overs from earlier phenomena, then I can understand them getting annoyed at you.
 
2012-11-16 05:56:33 PM
Tell me, legislators; when the stone wears away and no one does unto another that which they would have done to them, will you still believe that you are more loved by God?
 
2012-11-16 05:59:18 PM

JohnnyC: Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.

They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?


Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.
 
2012-11-16 06:00:18 PM

Bonzo_1116: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix ...


And because they had a well-trained / lucky army their views have managed to propagate/evolve and dominate two-thirds of the planet.
 
2012-11-16 06:03:31 PM

simplicimus: Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Recipes.
 
2012-11-16 06:03:41 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


Apparently, the Christian who believes in only this part of the Jewish book that he hasn't actually read doesn't know squat about the sacred symbolic graven images of other beliefs, either. 

/As a Christian, I wish we Christians would act more Christ-like.
 
2012-11-16 06:04:37 PM

I should be in the kitchen: The top looks like boobs.


I love FARK so much.
 
2012-11-16 06:04:47 PM

SquiggsIN: AssAsInAssassin: SquiggsIN: AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

And you need a lesson in sarcasm/satire.

Oh. Sorry. My irony filter was shut off.

As you were.

Asperger's?


Um... yes. Diagnosed by a psychologist and a neurologist.
 
2012-11-16 06:06:54 PM

simplicimus: I have a hard enough time breaking 10 commandments. I don't think I'd live long enough to break 613 commandments.


At that level it's less of a religion and more Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
 
2012-11-16 06:07:21 PM
CSB:

My alma mater had a very difficult time spell-checking a bronze plaque that was placed over a buried "time capsule" in front of the big iconic building in the middle of campus. It was placed a few years before I arrived, and took nearly 4 years before anybody noticed that the word SYMBOLIC was spelled as SYMBLIC. It was quietly replaced my freshman year with an identical plaque that spelled the word SYMOBLIC. After a bit of a hubbub about the misspelling, with the school newspaper running an embarrassing story, the school finally corrected the error on its third try. Coincidently, the plaque was sponsored and placed by the English department.

Sidenote: When they first replaced the original plaque, I had the fortunate timing of being there as it was removed, and bought it off of the man replacing it for ~60 bucks (about what he was going to get for melting it down, it's about 40 lbs. of bronze). When the school paper ran the story about the misspelling, they only knew of the second misspelling, so only a few friends and I know that the original plaque exists. I still haven't decided what to do with it, since it's been nearly 6 years since I graduated. It served as a coffee table (sitting atop a keg shell) for a few years.
 
2012-11-16 06:08:11 PM

simplicimus: The Larch: simplicimus: jshine: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

I certainly haven't. Where does it say how many commandment were on each tablet?

Well, it's implied from the Talmud. 5 and 5 on two tablets. Might be in the OT,

Where does it say in the OT that there were 10 commandments?  I can't find the number of commandments anywhere in the Bible. It looks like someone just took the words that God said and sort and said "meh... that's somewhere between 9 and 13, depending on how you divide 'em up. Let's say there's about 10. And different religions can argue about how to number them for the next few thousand years."

How do I know? I don't read Hebrew. The 10 commandments are a translation of Exodus 20:1-17. But the Talmud is pretty clear on their being 10.


Some of the more interesting gnostic documents mention more than 10 commandments. Talking with a jewish scholar, I got the inpression there were another set of commandments which came before the ones we know today. Basically, moses got to the bottom of the mountain and looked around. He saw what was happening and dashed the tablets he'd written the 10 commandments on to the ground, turned around and walked back up the mountain, and in no uncertain terms, noted thet he and God needed to get to brass tacks with his flock, as they were not the most eloquent of peoples. The long and the short of it is that our current understanding of the 10 commandments is the dumbed-down version, because the jews at the time were the equivalent of the population of the short bus, having lived in a pan-helenic society(egypt) for so long, they had started to move into polytheistic worship, much like the phrase, "When in rome" but they were in Egypt.

/that guy was fun to talk to
//just don't get him started on the oiginal polytheistic religion which evolved, slowly, into the current version judaism(sp?)
 
2012-11-16 06:12:52 PM

Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.


Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7438098/80746572#c80746572
 
2012-11-16 06:13:52 PM
Ahem... wrong link...

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jupiter & searchmode=none
 
2012-11-16 06:14:09 PM

Bonzo_1116: Look at the story of Cain and Abel, and all the stuff in Genesis--it's really clear that it was a herding culture that distrusted the agricultural folk of the cities.


The more things change the more they stay the same. Now we have a rural agricultural culture that distrusts the industrial/post-industrial folk of the cities.
 
2012-11-16 06:15:03 PM

simplicimus: Paris1127: simplicimus: Magorn: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Well actually THREE tablets, 5 on each, didn't you see the movie?

Yeah, I saw the movie. But on the bright side, we have 5 fewer commandments.

I wonder what was on that tablet... Perhaps a commandment about loving other people even if you disagree with him or her?

Well, the first 5 are man's relationship with God, the second 5 are man's relationship with fellow humans. No idea what would be on the third tablet.


Man's relationship with sheep.
 
2012-11-16 06:19:17 PM

propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?


Exactly :)

Christians aren't REALLY monotheists...they just like to dress that way.
 
2012-11-16 06:20:57 PM

felching pen: /As a Christian, I wish we Christians would act more Christ-like.


Silly Christian, American Christianity is about making a big show that you believe. As long as you believe you are saved, so you can act like a giant douchebag and it's ok because you're forgiven. Doing good works? That's Papist talk, and Papism is practically devil worship.
 
2012-11-16 06:22:31 PM

Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.

They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?

Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.


So you even need someone to tell you how to interpret the words you read out of the bible? Interesting.
 
2012-11-16 06:22:45 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

Do you think any of 'em actually read any of the book?


I had to explain this to my friend. While Jesus did exhort making one's self better (and so on) he was the ultimate hippie. I mean hippie as in give everything you don't need to survive to help others. I reminded him, that as a prosperity gospel heretic who doesn't shun wealth, it is unlikely he will get into heaven. His "good works" ledger is woefully inadequate, his help of fellow man is low, and his material desires are too excessive.

Tldr version:

Lapsed Irish Catholic schooled a Lutheran because if there's one thing you get beaten into your skull by the Nuns it is the Bible. Well that, and a fear of women named Mary Francis.

---

Why, the poor guy thought that God was nice. No, God is not nice. God is vengeful and hot tempered. Jesus was nice, and he moderated dad a bit. Have no doubt that otherwise (if there really is a God) we'd see bears rending children guilty of petty transgressions an awful lot today.
 
2012-11-16 06:23:52 PM
images.cheezburger.com

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-11-16 06:24:13 PM
say what you will, he's a job creator.
 
2012-11-16 06:28:52 PM

Bonzo_1116: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix ...


A little from column A, a little from column B, a little from column Z:

a) The original monotheistic concept...we're not 100% sure what the inspiration was, whether this was homegrown or whether there could have been some influence from Egypt's failed experiment in monotheism (Akhenaten's state cult of Aten the sun god, which was immediately reversed upon his death)--there's actually even been some speculation that the story of Moses could have been influenced by stories of Akhenaten's attempts to form a monotheistic faith.

b) The later substrate of monotheism (particularly the transformation of the role of ha-Satan from Prosecuting Attorney In the Divine Courtroom to overt anti-Deity as canonised in Christianity) seems to have had DEFINITE influence from Zoroastrianism (and it would appear Judaism may not have been the only religion "cross-pollinated" in such a way).
 
2012-11-16 06:28:53 PM

PunGent: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Exactly :)

Christians aren't REALLY monotheists...they just like to dress that way.


They need to go back to the really Olde Tyme Religion and get to worshipping the Maid/Mother/Crone. Now there's a Trinity that doesn't f*ck around.
 
2012-11-16 06:36:25 PM

JohnnyC: Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Son of Thunder: JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist

Obviously "no art" is exactly what that passage means, seeing as how no Jews or Christians ever made art.

They break their own rules all the time...

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Seems to say not to make an image or likeness of pretty much anything. You think it said something else?

Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

So you even need someone to tell you how to interpret the words you read out of the bible? Interesting.


It's called "education". When ignorant yahoos pretend to be theologians, the result is typically a steaming pile of stupid. See any fark religion thread for examples.
 
2012-11-16 06:37:51 PM

Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.


In my experience, theology scholars spend an awful lot or their time developing ways of explaining that "No, God didn't mean that" where that is something which is (a) clearly stated in the Bible and (b) inconvenient to the individual or their church. The Catholics are the masters at this, having managed to convert not killing into the inquisition, not coveting into the fabulous wealth of the church and love thy neighbour into two thousand years or religious war.

But you know, I rather like them for it. They are such openly and unashamedly devious bastards that they merit some respect. It's the thick as pigshiat evangelicals who start off with biblical literalism, realise that it's full of contradictions and impossible to implement and then stick doggedly to a few bits which suit their own tastes who annoy me.

TL;DR. Papists explain away the bits of the Bible they don't like while evos ignore them.
 
2012-11-16 06:39:47 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?


Not in the catholic version.

/srs.
 
2012-11-16 06:41:09 PM

Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.


OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.
 
2012-11-16 06:44:02 PM

Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.


1) fark them for attaching the American flag to this religious item, in respect to both the religious and the patriotic, this is farking stupid.
2) WHY THE fark IS THE FIELD ON THE GODDAMNED RIGHT!? THESE ASSHATS CAN'T EVEN FLAG CORRECTLY

UNITED STATES FLAG CODE SECTION [ 7i ] : When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.


/ farktards. farktards everywhere
 
2012-11-16 06:44:42 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

Not in the catholic version.

Michelangelo's agent knew what he was doing. "You want the painted ceiling, you lose the brimstone for ceiling painters or my boy's off to Constantinople and you can slap on a couple of coats of magnolia yourself. Capiche?"
 
2012-11-16 06:48:21 PM

vernonFL: Oklahoma Ten Commandments:

1. Thall shalt not worship anyone other than Ralph Dale Earnhardt, Sr.
2. Take off your hat at the table.
3. Remember to watch the OSU game
4. Do what your Pappy says, and don't sass your Mama.
5. You shall not kill without a permit or outside hunting season
6. If I catch you and your teenage cousin alone in the barn again....
7. Don't take nuthin that ain't yours.
8. Lies make baby Jesus cry
9. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
10. Rubbin' is racin'


Dear Lord, Baby Jesus.

content.internetvideoarchive.com
 
2012-11-16 06:48:45 PM

SquiggsIN: And because they had a well-trained / lucky army their views have managed to propagate/evolve and dominate two-thirds of the planet.


I'd really argue that the spread of Christianity(and Abrahamic faiths in general) as something other than a subsect of Judaism (akin to the Essenes or Chabad Lubavich) is due to two fairly lucky accidents:

a) The conversion of a Romanised Jewish person (Saul of Tarsus, who later renamed himself to Paul in a fairly long tradition of "renaming upon conversion" that seems to have been a trope in pre-Diaspora Jewish communities) who introduced a "goyim-friendly" version of the then-nascent Christian faith and no longer restricted the faith to observant (if dissident) Jewish people.

b) The conversion of Constantine I in 313 AD (which effectively ended official persecutions and blood libels against Christianity by the Roman Empire, and led for the establishment of Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire (and later, the Western Empire and its descendants and the Eastern Empire in Constantinople until well into the Middle Ages).

As for Islam, it's a little more difficult to trace back to the Abrahamic faiths but Muhammad was almost certainly exposed to both Christianity and Judaism (even explicitly acknowledging the groups as People Of The Book who had received revelations from the Most High)--it can be best seen as an Arabicised continuation of the tradition of "new revelations" that Christianity set a basis for. (Of particular note is the fact that the Arab peninsula was one of the few areas left in the Middle East at that point that still followed some sort of pre-Abrahamic faith, which again provides "colour text" for some of the commandments in the Quran to go after idolators and wipe them out--you can see the direct predecessors in the struggles of the Old Testament prophets against the return of the "Old Religion". Honestly, had the Christian canon not been "frozen" in the Council of Nicaea, we'd probably have had stuff just as bloody from Scandinavia or other areas where the "old faiths" still reared their head now and again in the Christian holy books.)
 
2012-11-16 06:51:28 PM

simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?


Does anybody know the cretin who paid $10,000 for this monument? If so, hook him up with me in this thread. I'll give $100 to any charity of his choice if he can recite the Ten Commandments from memory without either cheating or cramming.

/'Cretin'. Funny word, that one.
 
2012-11-16 06:51:32 PM
Blessed are the cheesemakers
 
2012-11-16 06:55:29 PM
Please people, keep this coming. I'm a humanist in a sea of supply-side jebus freaks, and this just made my week. I can't think of a better state for this to happen to.
 
2012-11-16 06:59:38 PM

The Larch: Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.


Really? Everyone else in all of history has interpreted that commandment as an absolute prohibition of all visual art? Citation needed.
 
2012-11-16 07:00:26 PM
Doesn't the Bible have something bad to say about people who change the wording of the Bible?
 
2012-11-16 07:01:10 PM
Huzzah!
 
2012-11-16 07:02:10 PM

AssAsInAssassin: Ahem... wrong link...

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jupiter & searchmode=none


Which is actually fairly impressive, considering that the Indo-European language family has no known relation to the Afro-Asiatic languages (of which the Semitic languages are a broad language family, much as the Romance or Germanic languages are part of sub-families of Indo-European)...save for some as-yet-unproven theories of relating some of the larger primary language families that still tend to be considered a little fringey.

(That said, I don't discount it could have happened. Somehow Semitic peoples got the one pre-Abrahamic faith (for which we have good records) from the people of Ur--and Sumerian is a language isolate which has no known relatives (and--at least if some interpretations of the fact there are sometimes as many as four or five separate glyphs in Sumerian for the same syllable are any clue--there's even a chance ancient Sumerian may have been a tonal or partially tonal language, like Vietnamese or Thai or quite a lot of language families in Africa). One theory is that when the Akkadian peoples (who spoke proto-Semitic) moved into the Middle East that they essentially "Sumericised" (taking on religion and culture, as well as apparently a form of cuneiform script) whilst causing a language shift from Sumerian to Akkadian.)
 
2012-11-16 07:07:40 PM

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D



I STILL can't quite accept that it's a total coincidence that Ahnknaten got his monotheism on, led everyone out into the desert and right around the same time the Hebrews appear on the historical scene as monotheists and have a story about their leader, a prince of Egypt leading them out of Egypt. After all "Moses" is the Egyptian word for "son of. It makes me wonder if the original Hebrew weren't some sort of loyalist remnant of Ahnknaten followers (maybe mixed with "Habiru" mercenaries from a sort of praetorian guard) who left Egypt after the priests of the traditional cults re-asserted dominance
 
2012-11-16 07:09:04 PM
When these politicians allow and endorse these 10 commandments, and in this case one of them helped pay for it, they should personally have to foot the bill for the legal defense that they know is coming. Put your money where your mouth is, not the taxpayers money.
 
2012-11-16 07:15:10 PM

SquiggsIN: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

More properly, refering to graven images of all the ba'alim and ashtarot, aka the old gods and goddesses of Sumer (which were later adopted by the Babylonians).

(To make a long story short, it's now thought by actual archaeologists that Judaism started out as a monotheistic fork of Mesopotamian polytheistic faiths (being probably the first monotheistic faith to actually catch on, versus Akhenaten's failed attempt). There are still some traces of the old polytheism (particularly in Genesis and the creation myths), and at the time that the Ten Commandments were encoded as the basis of halachic law, there were still a lot of issues with folks reverting to the polytheistic worship of the old gods.

Hell, even the Bible itself mentions this in relation to Moses and Aaron--with Aaron having set up a golden calf, a ritual item of Ba'al Hadad (the old Sumerian god of storms) which was specifically designed as an idol to the (monotheistic) god of Israel. There are at least two instances recorded after this when royalty or the people in general went back into frank polytheistic worship (with the God of Israel equated to either Ba'al Hadad or El) and a number of other instances where the early Israeli people had gone into partial polytheism reversion (with the God of Israel being paired with Ishtar or Astara, and the female companions of God/the gods being referred to as the ashtarot--"Astara" may well have been a functional title of "Lady" in this case, much as "ba'al" is actually a title of "Lord").

Yes, this is where knowing a bit about the predecessors of Judaism gets very interesting :D

In my experience, the more religious a person is, the less likely they want to hear about the ACTUAL origin of their religious customs. Christians, in particular, (likely due t ...


You hang out with the wrong Christians. This Roman Catholic gets a huge chuckle when he's at an Easter vigil mass and he watches the Priest re-create the Beltane rite of kindling the sacred fire, or sees a stained glass window dedicated to "St." Brigid. It shakes my faith not even the tiniest bit to know that our forms and rituals of worship often are somebody else's with the serial numbers filed off. Humans like rituals and pageantry, what the fark ya gonna do?
 
2012-11-16 07:16:06 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

Not in the catholic version.

/srs.


Yeah, my church has graven images. The crucifix bothers me (as a Catholic) because dying isn't all that much of a trick. Resurrection? That's a bigger deal.
 
2012-11-16 07:16:17 PM
I'm less offended by the misspellings and the All-Seeing Eye as I am by the American Eagle carved there. Considering how the Jews reacted when the Romans tried to nail their Imperial Eagle over the doors of the Temple in Jerusalem, it's pretty ironic.

Actually, what would be ironic is if the monument got defaced not by some radical secularist but by a proper God-fearing Christian who objected to the worldly national symbols placed on top of God's Law.
 
2012-11-16 07:24:10 PM

AssAsInAssassin: Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7438098/80746572#c80746572


and allow for a few centuries of linguistic drift and regional accents and it's not hard to hear Yahweh (Yah-wheh not Ya'll-way) in Allah (Or El-Al, the root word of Yahweh). It wouldn't shock me if the origins of Islam didn't have its roots in the remnants of the Samaritan culture which seems to vanish just after biblical times
 
2012-11-16 07:27:08 PM

Magorn: 15) Thou shalt shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


But since that's the exact opposite of the first commandment, the whole thing gets confused and goes up in smoke.
 
2012-11-16 07:29:26 PM

Magorn: Humans like rituals and pageantry, what the fark ya gonna do?


Me? I'd go to a library or a museum. But whatever lifts your priest's dress.
 
2012-11-16 07:40:31 PM
Hey, wait, you mean there's nothing in the ten commandments about no gay sex? Some of my fellow state residents want a word with this here god fellow. Don't you know that christians/republicans always look the the bible for guidance on this? I had shrimp today and wore my two diffrent types of colth to celibrate. Yes, I knant speel, i went to shcooll hear.
 
2012-11-16 07:41:01 PM

Son of Thunder: The Larch: Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.

Really? Everyone else in all of history has interpreted that commandment as an absolute prohibition of all visual art? Citation needed.


Oh. You're one of those people. Well, I'm sorry I wasted my time, then.
 
2012-11-16 07:41:52 PM
To religion...
 
2012-11-16 07:47:46 PM

Great Porn Dragon: AssAsInAssassin: Ahem... wrong link...

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jupiter & searchmode=none

Which is actually fairly impressive, considering that the Indo-European language family has no known relation to the Afro-Asiatic languages (of which the Semitic languages are a broad language family, much as the Romance or Germanic languages are part of sub-families of Indo-European)...save for some as-yet-unproven theories of relating some of the larger primary language families that still tend to be considered a little fringey.

(That said, I don't discount it could have happened. Somehow Semitic peoples got the one pre-Abrahamic faith (for which we have good records) from the people of Ur--and Sumerian is a language isolate which has no known relatives (and--at least if some interpretations of the fact there are sometimes as many as four or five separate glyphs in Sumerian for the same syllable are any clue--there's even a chance ancient Sumerian may have been a tonal or partially tonal language, like Vietnamese or Thai or quite a lot of language families in Africa). One theory is that when the Akkadian peoples (who spoke proto-Semitic) moved into the Middle East that they essentially "Sumericised" (taking on religion and culture, as well as apparently a form of cuneiform script) whilst causing a language shift from Sumerian to Akkadian.)


Or it could just be a loan word.

The Latin alphabet came from Etruscan--another language isolate--by way of Greek, which was adapted from the alphabet of the Phoenicians--a Semitic people. English, as I'm sure you know, has words from Arabic, Hebrew, Basque, American Indian languages, and pretty much every culture on Earth. Maybe the ancients were similarly promiscuous with their vocabularies.
 
2012-11-16 07:51:52 PM

Magorn: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Well there WERE, but if you read the Old Testament literally God went all Michael Corleone on them and consoldiated the Family business


Baal: [To Jesus] Tell Yahweh it was only business. I always liked him.
Jesus: He understands that.
Holy Spirit: [Removing Baal's gun] Excuse me, Bally.
Baal: Can you get me off the hook, Jesus? For old times' sake?
Jesus: [Shakes his head] Can't do it, Bally.
 
2012-11-16 07:56:52 PM

Magorn: AssAsInAssassin: Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

...

and allow for a few centuries of linguistic drift and regional accents and it's not hard to hear Yahweh (Yah-wheh not Ya'll-way) in Allah (Or El-Al, the root word of Yahweh). It wouldn't shock me if the origins of Islam didn't have its roots in the remnants of the Samaritan culture which seems to vanish just after biblical times


Pretty much any Biblical name that has "el" or "al" in it comes from the same Semitic root.

ALLAH: 1702, Arabic name for the Supreme Being, from Arabic Allahu, contraction of al-Ilahu, from al "the" + Ilah "God," related to Hebrew Elohim

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=allah&s e archmode=none

ELOHIM: a name of God in the Bible, c.1600, from Hebrew, plural (of majesty?) of Eloh "God," a word of unknown etymology, perhaps an augmentation of El "God," also of unknown origin. Generally taken as singular, the use of this word instead of Yahveh is taken by biblical scholars as an important clue to authorship in the Old Testament, hence Elohist.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Elohim&allowed_in_frame=0

But "Jove" is an Indo-European word:

JOVE: Roman god of the bright sky, late 14c., from L. Iovis, from PIE *dyeu- "to shine," with derivatives referring to the sky, heavens, a god (see diurnal, and cf. Zeus). In classical Latin, the compound Iuppiter replaced Old L. Iovis as the god's name.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=jove&se a rchmode=none

/Etymology geek.
//I LOVE etymology. It helps the world make sense.
 
2012-11-16 07:58:31 PM

JakeStone: Magorn: propasaurus: Thou shalt have no other gods...

Wait. There are other gods?

Well there WERE, but if you read the Old Testament literally God went all Michael Corleone on them and consoldiated the Family business

Baal: [To Jesus] Tell Yahweh it was only business. I always liked him.
Jesus: He understands that.
Holy Spirit: [Removing Baal's gun] Excuse me, Bally.
Baal: Can you get me off the hook, Jesus? For old times' sake?
Jesus: [Shakes his head] Can't do it, Bally.


[golf clap]

"I'll make him a covenant he can't refuse."

"I know it was you, Judas. You broke my heart. You broke my heart."
 
2012-11-16 08:00:04 PM
That's it. I'm watching Godfather II tonight.
 
2012-11-16 08:03:26 PM
Not to be too picky or anything, but did you ever notice how these monument builders always edit the ten commandments to take out the part that says the seventh day is the Sabbath? Really, they're cutting out the part that would expose them for substituting Sunday for the seventh day.  Ex 20:8-11
 
2012-11-16 08:12:38 PM

steve0701: Not to be too picky or anything, but did you ever notice how these monument builders always edit the ten commandments to take out the part that says the seventh day is the Sabbath? Really, they're cutting out the part that would expose them for substituting Sunday for the seventh day.  Ex 20:8-11


Well, not to mention that they aren't even using the same Ten Commandments that the Bible described as the Ten Commandments.
(Because those have too many obviously Jewey things in them)

I. Thou shalt worship no other god.

II. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

III. The feast of unleavened bread thou shalt keep.

IV. Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest.

V. Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the first fruits of wheat harvest,
and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

VI. Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God.

VII. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.

VIII. Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.

IX. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.

X. Thou shalt not seethe a kid [ie, a young goat] in his mother's milk.
 
2012-11-16 08:15:25 PM

GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.


284. Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

One of my personal favorites.
 
2012-11-16 08:19:21 PM

Bird3149: How do you misspell "derp"?


"R-E-LI-G-I-O-U-S R-I-G-H-T"?
 
2012-11-16 08:24:35 PM

Marquis de Sod: Blessed are the cheesemakers


Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
 
2012-11-16 09:12:52 PM

ciberido: Marquis de Sod: Blessed are the cheesemakers

Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.


Quiet, bignose.
 
2012-11-16 09:16:20 PM
 
2012-11-16 09:18:52 PM

Son of Thunder: The Larch: Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.

Really? Everyone else in all of history has interpreted that commandment as an absolute prohibition of all visual art? Citation needed.


Hardcore Jews and Muslims interpret it as a ban on *representational* art. So a picture or a portrait of a person is BAD BAD BAD, but calligraphy or pretty patterns are A-OK. Back in the day Turkish and Persian minature portraiture was consudered incredibly scandalous:

persia.org

OMG you can see his face BLASPHEMER

but this is all good:
farm7.static.flickr.com

I do believe the "art" of photography was a point of some controversy back in the day as it is capturing the handiwork of God Himself. So knuckledraggers still don't like it, thinking that a picture of a man can steal his soul, and only God is allowed to do that.
 
2012-11-16 09:23:42 PM

JohnnyC: Somacandra: Seriously, the commandment in Exodus 20 expressly forbids making images of ANYTHING in Heaven as well as Earth.

I think the "no art" commandment can suck my cock. :)

/atheist artist


The same here! I have to paint/draw/sketch, it's who and what I am.

Irrelevant collection of ancient letters is Irrelevant!
 
2012-11-16 09:30:10 PM

ciberido: GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.

284. Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

One of my personal favorites.


Absolutely. Given that this country more closely follows the Rules of Acquisition than they do the Ten Commandments, a monument to the Rules would be more socially relevant.
 
2012-11-16 09:31:50 PM
got here late, but

HA HA HA HAH AHHAH HA H AH AH AH AH AH HA H!!!1
 
2012-11-16 09:35:11 PM
I use to wonder if there really was that absolute prohibition of all visual art until I read further on that "a word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver." Apparently it's OK to have silver relief images with gold details. Just don't worship them.
 
2012-11-16 09:42:31 PM
Thou Shalt Not Herp the Living Derp
 
2012-11-16 09:49:46 PM

TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?


The American flag and a nice shiny eagle are there. Clearly, this is a sabotage attempt by the lamestream media and those jackbooted Obama thugs to reinforce steryotypes oppressing the poor good ol' Christians by implanting the 'Christianity Is America!!!11!!eleventy!' symbolism in the minds of the people involved in working on this.
 
2012-11-16 09:52:03 PM

PsiChick: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

The American flag and a nice shiny eagle are there. Clearly, this is a sabotage attempt by the lamestream media and those jackbooted Obama thugs to reinforce steryotypes oppressing the poor good ol' Christians by implanting the 'Christianity Is America!!!11!!eleventy!' symbolism in the minds of the people involved in working on this.


Please just stop.

Thank you.
 
2012-11-16 09:53:28 PM
I count 11 commandments...
 
2012-11-16 09:53:49 PM
Ooook-lahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
 
2012-11-16 09:57:23 PM

9Speed: I count 11 commandments...


Most of don't use base 9.
 
2012-11-16 10:02:40 PM

Magorn: AssAsInAssassin: Bonzo_1116: I sometimes wonder how much of the monotheism that the Hebrews picked up was related to the dualistic ideas of Zoroastrianism coming out of Central Asia. Judaism has a weird mix of Indo-European ideas of an overall father-god figure grafted onto a local Semitic storm-god chassis.

Yep. "Jupiter" comes from the Indo-European "dyeu-peter", or "god-father." Another name for Jupiter was "Jove." Except it was "Iove" (That's a capital "eye," not a lower-case "el.") which means it was pronounced "YO-WEH." "Zeus" comes from the same source.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7438098/80746572#c80746572

and allow for a few centuries of linguistic drift and regional accents and it's not hard to hear Yahweh (Yah-wheh not Ya'll-way) in Allah (Or El-Al, the root word of Yahweh). It wouldn't shock me if the origins of Islam didn't have its roots in the remnants of the Samaritan culture which seems to vanish just after biblical times


The Samaritans never quite disappeared (and in fact still exist, and are the last remnants of the FIRST fork of the Abrahamic faiths--basically they disapproved of that whole Second Temple business, concluded Judaism had jumped the shark, and have continued their own traditions since--and were pretty much seen as EVIL SPLITTERS for it). :D That said, wouldn't be shocked if there'd been some exposure to Samaritanism by the founders of Islam.

As for the whole "Allah"/"El"/"Elyon" thing--Arabic IS in the same linguistic family as Hebrew and Aramaic (the latter of which would have been actually spoken from the time of Christ even up to the modern day (by Assyrians, who use Aramaic both as a liturgical language (in the form of Syriac) and as an endangered everyday tongue). Aramaic is in fact essentially the "daughter language" of Biblical Hebrew (much as modern English is a descendant of Middle English), and the original writing of the Talmud was in Aramaic (and Aramaic would still be in common use in the Jewish and Christian communities at the time).

Aramaic (and Hebrew) are considered Central Semitic languages, as is Arabic (especially Literary Arabic, which is actually a fairly archaic version of the language much as Syriac pretty much preserves "Middle Aramaic")--the degree of relatedness between the Central Semitic languages are about as much as (say) the Romance languages and Arabic and Aramaic DID do a fair amount of cross-fertilisation of each other linguistically (probably the languages would be about as separate as, say, Catalonian and Castilian Spanish, or possibly Spanish and Portugese; even Biblical Hebrew was close enough to Arabic that many terms (and curse words, of note) that did not exist or were never recorded in Biblical Hebrew or Aramaic were direct "Hebraisations" from modern Levantine Arabic when Modern Hebrew was resurrected as a living language).

Interestingly, a lot of the known borrowings from Syriac Aramaic to Classical Arabic include a number of Quranic liturgical terms and even some common words such as "island" (Al Jazeera means, literally, "the island", referring to the network being Qatari-owned).
 
2012-11-16 10:10:57 PM

simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.


I'm just reading whats written (slightly paraphrased):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods
2) Thou shalt not make graven images
3) Thou shalt not take the name of god in vain
4) Remember the Sabbeth (sp)
5) Honor thy father and mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness
10) Thou shalt not covet neighbor's house
11) Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife
 
2012-11-16 10:20:33 PM

9Speed: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

I'm just reading whats written (slightly paraphrased):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods
2) Thou shalt not make graven images
3) Thou shalt not take the name of god in vain
4) Remember the Sabbeth (sp)
5) Honor thy father and mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness
10) Thou shalt not covet neighbor's house
11) Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife


I run on the Catholic version:
Here are the Catholic Ten Commandments:

I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.
 
2012-11-16 10:21:22 PM

9Speed: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

I'm just reading whats written (slightly paraphrased):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods
2) Thou shalt not make graven images
3) Thou shalt not take the name of god in vain
4) Remember the Sabbeth (sp)
5) Honor thy father and mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness
10) Thou shalt not covet neighbor's house
11) Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife


The Neighbor's House and the Neighbor's Wife are traditionally grouped into one commandment...as they are just "things" your neighbor owns. It's really a prohibition against greed/envy/theft. Not so much sexing up your neighbor's wife--it's more about taking your neighbor's stuff in general.
 
2012-11-16 10:23:31 PM

simplicimus: 9Speed: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

I'm just reading whats written (slightly paraphrased):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods
2) Thou shalt not make graven images
3) Thou shalt not take the name of god in vain
4) Remember the Sabbeth (sp)
5) Honor thy father and mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness
10) Thou shalt not covet neighbor's house
11) Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife

I run on the Catholic version:
Here are the Catholic Ten Commandments:

I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.


OK, but that skips right over "thou shalt not make graven images".
 
2012-11-16 10:25:45 PM

9Speed:

I'm just reading whats written (slightly paraphrased):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods
2) Thou shalt not make graven images
3) Thou shalt not take the name of god in vain
4) Remember the Sabbeth (sp)
5) Honor thy father and mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness
10) Thou shalt not covet neighbor's house
11) Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife



oo I'd forgetton the Catholics had actually nixed out the graven images thing....
It's a weird prohibition, when you get down to it.
 
2012-11-16 10:36:34 PM

Indubitably: PsiChick: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
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Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

The American flag and a nice shiny eagle are there. Clearly, this is a sabotage attempt by the lamestream media and those jackbooted Obama thugs to reinforce steryotypes oppressing the poor good ol' Christians by implanting the 'Christianity Is America!!!11!!eleventy!' symbolism in the minds of the people involved in working on this.

Please just stop.

Thank you.


...That was sarcasm.

/I need a font for that.
//But really, that stuff is only on there because, well, of the entire point of this--that these guys believe America is a Christian Nation(tm). Which is ridiculous, but oh, well.
 
2012-11-16 10:39:30 PM

ciberido: GBB: If the Christians can have their 10 commandments. Then they need to put up the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition, too.

284. Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi.

One of my personal favorites.


6. Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.

31. Never make fun of a Ferengi's mother. Insult something they care about instead.

111. Treat people in your debt like family ... exploit them.

192. Never cheat a Klingon... unless you can get away with it.

211. Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.
 
2012-11-16 10:51:23 PM
Faith, hop, and charity and the greatest of these is hop.
 
2012-11-16 10:56:31 PM
WISCONSIN TEN COMMANDMENTS:

1. Thou shalt not speak ill of Brett Favre
2. Thou shalt not buy or eat artificial cheese.
3 Thou shalt loathe the Chicago Bears and the Minnesota Vikings
4. Thou shalt not drink Coors
5. Thou shalt kill at least one deer with your car
6. Thou shalt adorn thy farms with statues of cows
7. Tombstone Pizza hath been forsaken by Kraft
8. Thou must endure 8 months of winter per year
9. Thou needest not donneth a helmet while riding thy Harley
10. Scott Walker sucketh.
 
2012-11-16 11:18:49 PM

simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.


If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.
 
2012-11-16 11:23:04 PM

gilgigamesh: simplicimus: The design is wrong. It's two three two tablets, 5 on each. Did this guy even read the Old Testament?

[lesposen.files.wordpress.com image 648x292]
Oy.


Either this or a misspelling of VX
 
2012-11-17 12:06:32 AM

ciberido: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.


No, not everybody.
 
2012-11-17 12:09:41 AM
Oklahoma needs to secede and be part of Jesusland.
 
2012-11-17 12:36:10 AM

9Speed: ciberido: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.

No, not everybody.


Sigh. It was a joke. Not a very good one, apparently.

Look at it this way. If you use base eight, then "eight" in base eight is written "10".... 

Let me try to redeem myself with a riddle. Why do computer science geeks and math nerds confuse Christmas with Halloween?
 
2012-11-17 12:50:39 AM

ciberido: 9Speed: ciberido: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.

No, not everybody.

Sigh. It was a joke. Not a very good one, apparently.

Look at it this way. If you use base eight, then "eight" in base eight is written "10".... 

Let me try to redeem myself with a riddle. Why do computer science geeks and math nerds confuse Christmas with Halloween?


Ah right... gotcha. I'm not the quickest at catching subtle humor. As to your riddle...

October 31.... OCT so use base 8
December 25.... DEC so use base 10

31 base 8 = 25 base 10

Without your prior hint it would have had me scratching my head for awhile.
 
2012-11-17 01:00:02 AM

9Speed: ciberido: 9Speed: ciberido: simplicimus: 9Speed: I count 11 commandments...

Most of don't use base 9.

If you think about it, everybody uses base 10.

No, not everybody.

Sigh. It was a joke. Not a very good one, apparently.

Look at it this way. If you use base eight, then "eight" in base eight is written "10".... 

Let me try to redeem myself with a riddle. Why do computer science geeks and math nerds confuse Christmas with Halloween?

Ah right... gotcha. I'm not the quickest at catching subtle humor. As to your riddle...

October 31.... OCT so use base 8
December 25.... DEC so use base 10

31 base 8 = 25 base 10

Without your prior hint it would have had me scratching my head for awhile.


Well, just to finish this off, the are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those that don't.
 
2012-11-17 02:01:15 AM
upload.wikimedia.orgs3.amazonaws.com

Wow, almost an exact copy of the one set up in Texas capitol's courthouse in 1961, eventually creating the Van Orden v. Perry decision. Also it was supported by Cecil B. DeMille, director of the 1956 Ten Commandments movie.

But hey... they copied almost the entire grotesque thing, and yet STILL misspelled things?? And wouldn't this violate copyright rules? You probably couldn't get them to sign off on the rights because it'd be hard to find who holds the rights to the original artwork- then again, that makes it less likely someone's gonna pop out of the woodwork and sue you.
 
2012-11-17 02:32:28 AM

Oznog: [upload.wikimedia.org image 596x817][s3.amazonaws.com image 448x600]

Wow, almost an exact copy of the one set up in Texas capitol's courthouse in 1961, eventually creating the Van Orden v. Perry decision. Also it was supported by Cecil B. DeMille, director of the 1956 Ten Commandments movie.

But hey... they copied almost the entire grotesque thing, and yet STILL misspelled things?? And wouldn't this violate copyright rules? You probably couldn't get them to sign off on the rights because it'd be hard to find who holds the rights to the original artwork- then again, that makes it less likely someone's gonna pop out of the woodwork and sue you.


Is that gibberish "hebrew" on the top of the older version?

fakey phony fakey
 
2012-11-17 03:12:24 AM

simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.


Baal? As in...Bocce?
 
2012-11-17 04:55:43 AM
It's actually 4 on the first and 6 on the second.

PS I read the Old Testament.

PPS Completely serious in case anyone thought I was being snarky.
 
2012-11-17 05:04:54 AM

unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.


I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.
 
2012-11-17 05:49:13 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-17 07:28:46 AM

Optimus Primate: I have always wondered how one "simply fixes" a spelling or artistic error on a monument, anyone know? Seems like if you screw that up, it's a re-do.


www.burntlatke.com
 
2012-11-17 07:35:53 AM
1. I IS CEILING CAT
2. CEILING CAT COMS 1ST
3. DON' LISSEN TO BASEMENT CAT
4. DON' USE MY NAME TO DO EVELL
5. REMEMBER CATERDAY AND KEEP IT LAZY
6. DRIVE UR HOOMAN AZ CRAZY AZ POSSIBIL
7. DON' KILL. UNLESS HOOMAN MAKES YOU DRESS UP
8. DON' CHEAT N HUK UP WIT CRAZY KITTEH DOWN THE STREET
9. DON' LAI. UNLESS U HAS TO
10. DON' STEEL. JUS TAKE STUFF AN PUT IT BACK B4 THEY KNO
 
2012-11-17 08:40:29 AM

Mateorabi: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?

I think that refers only to the competition, Baal and whoever else was being worshiped.

Baal? As in...Bocce?


"Do you speak Baal?"
"Of course I can, sir. It's like a second language to me..."
"Yeah, alright. Shut up."
"Shutting up, sir."
 
2012-11-17 11:12:40 AM
My spellchecker still does not recognize Obama

Like me
 
2012-11-17 11:16:05 AM

Chortle is the best word ever: It's actually 4 on the first and 6 on the second.

PS I read the Old Testament.

PPS Completely serious in case anyone thought I was being snarky.


Where do you find that?
 
2012-11-17 12:20:08 PM

html_007: basemetal: I was hoping to see this make Fark.

So when do we get our own tag??


We have our problems, but they are not Texas, Arizona or Florida level yet.
 
2012-11-17 12:38:19 PM

Medic Zero: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.


AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.


2.bp.blogspot.com

img159.imageshack.us 

You haven't been paying attention, morans.
 
2012-11-17 02:00:05 PM

unlikely: Medic Zero: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.

AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x224]

[img159.imageshack.us image 263x428] 

You haven't been paying attention, morans.


Ah, the "Fark newbie detector" caught a couple of victims.
 
2012-11-17 02:02:28 PM

Bonzo_1116: Son of Thunder: The Larch: Son of Thunder: Yes, but that's because I make the effort to read up on what actual scholars say about religious texts, instead of just shooting my mouth off.

OK, smart guy. You are undoubtedly aware that the meaning of this text has been interpreted in many different ways by many different groups and many different times. Why don't you tell us why everyone else in the whole history has been doing it wrong, and how you're doing it right.

Really? Everyone else in all of history has interpreted that commandment as an absolute prohibition of all visual art? Citation needed.

Hardcore Jews and Muslims interpret it as a ban on *representational* art. So a picture or a portrait of a person is BAD BAD BAD, but calligraphy or pretty patterns are A-OK. Back in the day Turkish and Persian minature portraiture was consudered incredibly scandalous:

[persia.org image 850x510]

OMG you can see his face BLASPHEMER

but this is all good:
[farm7.static.flickr.com image 333x500]

I do believe the "art" of photography was a point of some controversy back in the day as it is capturing the handiwork of God Himself. So knuckledraggers still don't like it, thinking that a picture of a man can steal his soul, and only God is allowed to do that.


This is a very old Indo-European thing actually. The ornate knot-work that we associate with "Celtic" art these days was largely developed because of a cultural taboo about realistic representations of living things, much in the same way that the geometric patterns of the Muslim High middle ages were based of the Islamic prohibitions
 
2012-11-17 05:05:02 PM

FormlessOne: unlikely: Medic Zero: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.

AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x224]

[img159.imageshack.us image 263x428] 

You haven't been paying attention, morans.

Ah, the "Fark newbie detector" caught a couple of victims.


Yeah yeah yeah. I made a mistake. Sorry if I don't spend every waking minute absorbing the arcane minutiae of this peculiar subculture. When I posted that I had already decided not to comment on several actual abuses of English. Since the examples given are so common, I didn't recognize the sarcasm.

SquiggsIN correctly guessed that I have Asperger's. Sometime I fail to see the implied meaning of online comments. I love irony, but I don't always see it in others' comments.

And, yes, I really have it. I was diagnosed by a psychologist and a neurologist before it became fashionable to "have" Asperger's.

So cut me some slack, OK? I generally do pretty well at compensating for it. You caught me at a moment when I let my guard down.
 
2012-11-17 07:41:16 PM

unlikely: Medic Zero: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.

AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x224]

[img159.imageshack.us image 263x428] 

You haven't been paying attention, morans.


Excuse the hell out of me, it looks like I missed a meme! I'll redouble my efforts to keep up with everything on the intertubes!
 
2012-11-17 08:16:58 PM

Medic Zero: unlikely: Medic Zero: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

I'm totally with you, but it'd sure elevate your position if you spelled "secede" and "dissent" correctly.

AssAsInAssassin: unlikely: You know the people who wanted that thing there in the first place are the same ones who keep talking about how the want their state to succeed from the US and carry signs that say descent is the highest form of patriotic, right?

So I don't actually see this as a problem.

Normally I'd let this go, but you look like you could use some help.

It's "secede," not "succeed." "Succeed" means "do something correctly". "Secede" means to split away from one's country and form a new country."
It's "dissent," not "descent." "Descent" is a noun that means "the act of going down from a higher place." "Dissent" is a verb that means "disagree."

Your spelling is fine, but your vocabulary needs an upgrade.

/Not a language Nazi, but that was a bit much.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x224]

[img159.imageshack.us image 263x428] 

You haven't been paying attention, morans.

Excuse the hell out of me, it looks like I missed a meme! I'll redouble my efforts to keep up with everything on the intertubes!


That works, too.
 
2012-11-18 07:06:43 AM
Easy to fix? Does that mean the entire metaphor about 'not being written in stone' has been wrong all this time?
 
2012-11-18 03:05:44 PM

AssAsInAssassin: I didn't recognize the sarcasm.


Therein lies the rub. I was saying, in all seriousness, that the people who want the ten commandments on the lawn there are the very same people who make all these spelling and grammatical errors... and therefore this bit of spelling goofiness is par for the course and shouldn't matter to them at all. :-)
 
2012-11-19 07:03:13 PM

PsiChick: Indubitably: PsiChick: TheCharmerUnderMe: Somacandra: AdolfOliverPanties: Isn't there something in the Ten Commandments about graven images?
\
 

Yup, that's the monument--with misspellings and all.

I'm sorry, but is that the All-seeing Eye in the pyramid above the eagle? What the hell is THAT doing on there?

The American flag and a nice shiny eagle are there. Clearly, this is a sabotage attempt by the lamestream media and those jackbooted Obama thugs to reinforce steryotypes oppressing the poor good ol' Christians by implanting the 'Christianity Is America!!!11!!eleventy!' symbolism in the minds of the people involved in working on this.

Please just stop.

Thank you.

...That was sarcasm.

/I need a font for that.
//But really, that stuff is only on there because, well, of the entire point of this--that these guys believe America is a Christian Nation(tm). Which is ridiculous, but oh, well.


Like I said before, darlin' (I have always loved your work, btw, and that hasn't changed, even if I don't agree with you on something), this is a hard venue. People don't seem to realize how much of a message is lost w/o the human in between the cybersender and cyberreceiver, making it real, no? Body language matters. Eyes matter. Sounds matter. Smells matter. Everything matters. Everything that is not here.

So, we work with what we have. We play with language (some of us--some of just are) all of the time on Fark, no?

I apologize for not understanding you better in the medium that seems to decry subtlety.

I bid you adieu, *bow*
 
2012-11-20 01:59:52 AM
as once as a scribe, I can only say.

Not like it's etched in stone.

/headline would make a great t-shirt
//if not so long
///and a t-shirt
 
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