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(BBC) NewsFlash Hamas rockets land just outside Jerusalem. If they hit a holy site, one of three religions is going to be PISSED   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 420
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2012-11-17 03:35:02 AM

4tehsnowflakes: The UK is taking the lead on backing the Syrian rebels and the BBC has been reporting it.


The Guardian started reporting it a couple days ago. ;)

I don't think it's necessary to go to Syria for reasons. There's the continuing blockade and economic control, and there's the pending Nov 29 UN resolution which would diminish Hamas's legal power, in addition to more than half a century of blood and a population of 1.7 million people are mostly under 30.

The most likely scenario is that Hamas stepped up their rocket attacks in response to Abbas's pending motion at the UN, to derail it. The early Israeli internal politics, you could attach any amount of conspiracy theories to. Egyptian officials confirm that Jabari (the commander Israel assassinated first), was deeply involved in peace talks, but Egypt isn't without reason to lie about that.

I think you could rightly say it's a clusterfark.
 
2012-11-17 04:03:07 AM

starsrift: 4tehsnowflakes: the BBC has been reporting it.

The Guardian started reporting it a couple days ago. ;)

I don't think it's necessary to go to Syria for reasons. There's the continuing blockade and economic control, and there's the pending Nov 29 UN resolution which would diminish Hamas's legal power, in addition to more than half a century of blood and a population of 1.7 million people are mostly under 30.

The most likely scenario is that Hamas stepped up their rocket attacks in response to Abbas's pending motion at the UN, to derail it. The early Israeli internal politics, you could attach any amount of conspiracy theories to. Egyptian officials confirm that Jabari (the commander Israel assassinated first), was deeply involved in peace talks, but Egypt isn't without reason to lie about that.

I think you could rightly say it's a clusterfark.


Yes, you could. And you are right, given the volatility of the region my Syria conspiracy theory is unnecessary, but it seemed plausible when I pulled it out of my ... bum as they say in the UK ... and will in any case be very hard for anyone to disprove.
 
2012-11-17 04:07:50 AM

4tehsnowflakes: Yes, you could. And you are right, given the volatility of the region my Syria conspiracy theory is unnecessary, but it seemed plausible when I pulled it out of my ... bum as they say in the UK ... and will in any case be very hard for anyone to disprove.


If you really want to go for maximum conspiracy theory, you could point out that both Israel as well as Hamas-controlled Gaza want to see Abbas's resolution in the UN to fail, and despite over 600 strikes on alleged Hamas locations, they've only taken out 4 militants - including Jabari - so far, even managing to take out a Hamas commander's house while it was empty. Personally, I favour a theory of simple IDF incompetence, but hell. There's enough derp to go around.
 
2012-11-17 05:23:21 AM
Where are the flashing news tags for every one of scores of missiles Israel pounds into Palestinian civilian buildings?

It's a newsflash when Hamas lands a bottle rocket in a street, but what happens when Israel drones takes out four children? Nothing.
 
2012-11-17 05:38:31 AM

RobTheNerd: Where are the flashing news tags for every one of scores of missiles Israel pounds into Palestinian civilian buildings?

It's a newsflash when Hamas lands a bottle rocket in a street, but what happens when Israel drones takes out four children? Nothing.


Because it doesn't fit the narrative, that's why.
 
2012-11-17 08:25:49 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: SpectroBoy: AverageAmericanGuy: That's the difference between Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Christians don't believe that The Law holds any sway over believers. Therefore holy sites are nice tourist attractions, but don't have any intrinsic spiritual value.

Bullshiat. If some group of people was shelling the Vatican I sincerely doubt the Catholics would "turn the other cheeks" and just go live somewhere else.

Well, I said 'Christians', not 'Mary worshipping cultists'.


0/10
 
2012-11-17 11:12:31 AM
Yeah yesterday I was getting out of the shower and I had to rush to put on my pants.

I was forced by terrorists to put on pants.

FARK YOU HAMAS.
 
2012-11-17 11:12:38 AM
Whenever anybody does something, in order to form a moral opinion about it, I first ask...

are they a Jew?
 
2012-11-17 11:19:57 AM

RobTheNerd: Where are the flashing news tags for every one of scores of missiles Israel pounds into Palestinian civilian buildings?

It's a newsflash when Hamas lands a bottle rocket in a street, but what happens when Israel drones takes out four children? Nothing.


I don't know where you live, but where I live Israel only needs to fart and it's all over our establishment media organ, the Bolshevik Broadcasters of Communism.
 
2012-11-17 11:33:51 AM

give me doughnuts: that bosnian sniper: Oh god, a rocket, shiat's done got real now. Or is this just the lucky one that made it through half the Gaza strip being carpeted in willy pete several times over now?

You knopw what burns hotter than white phosphorus?


Promptly critical plutonium?
 
2012-11-18 06:12:05 AM

ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: So... Tell me how you feel about us Mormons?

Mormons aren't chirstians.


Good thing, too. We'd have to change the name of our church, to the Cuhrch of Jsues Chirst of Lttaer-day Snaits.


Your name doesn't matter.

Would you say I was a Mormon if I said I was and named my church the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Latter-day Saints" and claimed that I believed in Jesus from the Bible, and Jesus from the book of Mormon, but that Jesus visited me last year and had me write the "book of mormon, for reals" and that trumped the other Holy books. It also included new rules, I could ignore many of the old rules, and here was a completely different afterlife.
 
2012-11-18 05:43:48 PM

RobTheNerd: Where are the flashing news tags for every one of scores of missiles Israel pounds into Palestinian civilian buildings?

It's a newsflash when Hamas lands a bottle rocket in a street, but what happens when Israel drones takes out four children? Nothing.


Lol wut?

Its precisely because of the extensive coverage of every israeli response that Hamas keeps goading them.

Hamas strategy:

1. Launch a bunch of rockets into Israel
2. Hide those responsible in hospitals, schools, orphanages, any place that can evoke an emotional response if it takes collateral damage.
3. Wait until Israel, despite its best efforts to avoid civilian deaths, injures or kills one of Hamas' human shields, or someone nearby who is photogenic.
4. Take LOTS of photos and videos of the injured human shield, children, old women, anything that those not informed about the conflict would look at and have a knee-jerk "THATS HORRIBLE, HOW COULD THEY??" reaction, release to the news media, and Israel's public opinion worldwide drops a bit.
5. Repeat.

This is their goal right now (one of them) - to goad israel into killing a few civillians, no matter how many hamas terrorists are killed too. Its the civillian deaths Hamas wants, and needs and mines for public opinion.

But anyone who has been following along realizes how these deaths are precious to Hamas for PR, and exactly what hamas is striving for. The only chance they have is to manipulate the manipulatable with these made-for-tv newsbites of "israeli attrocities" that would have had zero chance of happening if Hamas hadn't done everything it could to make that scenario play out.

Israel, to its credit, has been remarkable restrained - but I am sensing they are about to say "fark it, this is getting old. " - but they've been targeting symbols of Hamas authority, trying to demoralize Hamas supporters, and weaken Hamas politically, instead of just killing everyone.

Turn things around - give Hamas ALL of Israel's technology, and limit Israel to only Hamas' current technology - do you think Hamas would be as restrained? Of course not. Hamas would not hesitate to nuke Israel. Not for a moment.

There is no symmetry here. Israel has been a nation as currently constituted longer than what, 30 or so other countries that are currently recognized as nations? They aren't "occupiers" any more than the english descendants of New Zealand, or the European descendants in the US are an occupiers. They are a recognized nation that is continually attacked by enemies striving to eliminate if for philospohical and religious reasons, and a hatred that actually gives them identity. It's extremely hard to combat that sort of generational derpiness. Israel's response has been extremely restrained, imho.
 
2012-11-18 06:03:13 PM

liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: So... Tell me how you feel about us Mormons?

Mormons aren't chirstians.


Good thing, too. We'd have to change the name of our church, to the Cuhrch of Jsues Chirst of Lttaer-day Snaits.

Your name doesn't matter.

Would you say I was a Mormon if I said I was and named my church the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Latter-day Saints" and claimed that I believed in Jesus from the Bible, and Jesus from the book of Mormon, but that Jesus visited me last year and had me write the "book of mormon, for reals" and that trumped the other Holy books. It also included new rules, I could ignore many of the old rules, and here was a completely different afterlife.


Of course I wouldnt believe some random guy making those claims. Thats what the "holy spirit of truth" , the "counselor" that was sent to us for, that Christ speaks of, to testify what is true, and what isnt.

Otherwise anyone could claim or print anything, duh. How else would be be able to determine who is a true prophet and who is a false prophet? Think before you ask such silly things :)
 
2012-11-18 06:53:24 PM

ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: So... Tell me how you feel about us Mormons?

Mormons aren't chirstians.


Good thing, too. We'd have to change the name of our church, to the Cuhrch of Jsues Chirst of Lttaer-day Snaits.

Your name doesn't matter.

Would you say I was a Mormon if I said I was and named my church the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Latter-day Saints" and claimed that I believed in Jesus from the Bible, and Jesus from the book of Mormon, but that Jesus visited me last year and had me write the "book of mormon, for reals" and that trumped the other Holy books. It also included new rules, I could ignore many of the old rules, and here was a completely different afterlife.

Of course I wouldnt believe some random guy making those claims. Thats what the "holy spirit of truth" , the "counselor" that was sent to us for, that Christ speaks of, to testify what is true, and what isnt.

Otherwise anyone could claim or print anything, duh. How else would be be able to determine who is a true prophet and who is a false prophet? Think before you ask such silly things :)



Might want to re-read what I wrote.

I am not asking you to believe any of that.

I am asking if you would consider me Mormon if I explained to you that was the name of my church and those were my beliefs.

Because that is what it is like when Mormons say they are Christians tot he rest of Christianity.
 
2012-11-18 08:28:35 PM

liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: So... Tell me how you feel about us Mormons?

Mormons aren't chirstians.


Good thing, too. We'd have to change the name of our church, to the Cuhrch of Jsues Chirst of Lttaer-day Snaits.

Your name doesn't matter.

Would you say I was a Mormon if I said I was and named my church the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Latter-day Saints" and claimed that I believed in Jesus from the Bible, and Jesus from the book of Mormon, but that Jesus visited me last year and had me write the "book of mormon, for reals" and that trumped the other Holy books. It also included new rules, I could ignore many of the old rules, and here was a completely different afterlife.

Of course I wouldnt believe some random guy making those claims. Thats what the "holy spirit of truth" , the "counselor" that was sent to us for, that Christ speaks of, to testify what is true, and what isnt.

Otherwise anyone could claim or print anything, duh. How else would be be able to determine who is a true prophet and who is a false prophet? Think before you ask such silly things :)


Might want to re-read what I wrote.

I am not asking you to believe any of that.

I am asking if you would consider me Mormon if I explained to you that was the name of my church and those were my beliefs.
.


And I'm saying no, I wouldnt consider your church LDS (Mormon), because, again, you would fail the basic Christianity test. You would just be a guy claiming to be Mormon, without any backing support from the Spirit. See now? ;D
 
2012-11-18 08:29:50 PM
Oh, scrolling back - I can see that you are just a troll.

Hah. I fell for your idiocy. Carry on.

/facepalm
 
2012-11-18 08:53:27 PM

ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: liam76: ISO15693: So... Tell me how you feel about us Mormons?

Mormons aren't chirstians.


Good thing, too. We'd have to change the name of our church, to the Cuhrch of Jsues Chirst of Lttaer-day Snaits.

Your name doesn't matter.

Would you say I was a Mormon if I said I was and named my church the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Latter-day Saints" and claimed that I believed in Jesus from the Bible, and Jesus from the book of Mormon, but that Jesus visited me last year and had me write the "book of mormon, for reals" and that trumped the other Holy books. It also included new rules, I could ignore many of the old rules, and here was a completely different afterlife.

Of course I wouldnt believe some random guy making those claims. Thats what the "holy spirit of truth" , the "counselor" that was sent to us for, that Christ speaks of, to testify what is true, and what isnt.

Otherwise anyone could claim or print anything, duh. How else would be be able to determine who is a true prophet and who is a false prophet? Think before you ask such silly things :)


Might want to re-read what I wrote.

I am not asking you to believe any of that.

I am asking if you would consider me Mormon if I explained to you that was the name of my church and those were my beliefs.
.

And I'm saying no, I wouldnt consider your church LDS (Mormon), because, again, you would fail the basic Christianity test. You would just be a guy claiming to be Mormon, without any backing support from the Spirit. See now? ;D


Just as you fail the basic Christianity test.

See now? ; D
 
2012-11-18 09:00:33 PM

ISO15693: Oh, scrolling back - I can see that you are just a troll.

Hah. I fell for your idiocy. Carry on.

/facepalm


How am I troll?

I am simply putting the differences between Christianity and Mormonism in perspective for you by comparing Mormonism to faith that branches off in a similar manner.

That you are calling that trolling makes me think you have never really examined your faith in relation to Christianity.
 
2012-11-19 05:17:21 PM
ISO15693
This is their goal right now (one of them) - to goad israel into killing a few civillians, no matter how many hamas terrorists are killed too. Its the civillian deaths Hamas wants, and needs and mines for public opinion.

And Israel just lets themselves be goaded, hm? Darn that Hamas, making them fall for their trick even though they apparently know exactly how it works.
 
2012-11-19 07:53:59 PM

RanDomino: ISO15693
This is their goal right now (one of them) - to goad israel into killing a few civillians, no matter how many hamas terrorists are killed too. Its the civillian deaths Hamas wants, and needs and mines for public opinion.

And Israel just lets themselves be goaded, hm? Darn that Hamas, making them fall for their trick even though they apparently know exactly how it works.


Idiotic strawman is idiotic.
 
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