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(Politico)   "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour and is doing a $30M "free pizza" promotion is upset that he has to spend $8M to provide his employees with healthcare   (politico.com ) divider line
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2012-11-16 10:55:31 AM  
Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?
 
2012-11-16 10:58:33 AM  

WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?


Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.
 
2012-11-16 11:04:57 AM  

WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?


There may be a few, but they're smart enough not to pointlessly stick their foot in their mouth like this moron.
 
2012-11-16 11:23:54 AM  

St_Francis_P: WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?

There may be a few, but they're smart enough not to pointlessly stick their foot in their mouth like this moron.

 
2012-11-16 11:26:27 AM  
This clown should be more worried about the $250 million nationwide class action lawsuit that has been filed for his company spamming the shiat out its customers after they've asked for it to stop.
 
2012-11-16 11:28:02 AM  
The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.
 
2012-11-16 11:29:35 AM  
He should spend some of that money on something useful, like a pair of lips.
 
2012-11-16 11:31:24 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: He should spend some of that money on something useful, like a pair of lips.


Why? He seems perfectly capable of sucking Republican dick just fine without them.
 
2012-11-16 11:31:49 AM  

kmmontandon: Marcus Aurelius: He should spend some of that money on something useful, like a pair of lips.

Why? He seems perfectly capable of sucking Republican dick just fine without them.


True, that.
 
2012-11-16 11:39:09 AM  

scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.


I wonder if this guy knows that chick-fil-a gave in and the dude won't be donating to those anti-gay groups any more.
 
2012-11-16 11:45:04 AM  
I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.
 
2012-11-16 11:45:51 AM  
What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?
 
2012-11-16 11:50:53 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?


I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.
 
2012-11-16 11:51:12 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?


Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.
 
2012-11-16 11:53:24 AM  

Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.


Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.
 
2012-11-16 11:54:47 AM  
Oh look another business is using Obamacare as an excuse to screw over workers and customers.
 
2012-11-16 11:55:17 AM  
FTA: National Papa John's Appreciation Day...the event is organized by Rebooting America, a conservative group that formed the day after last week..."We're standing up for a business owner that was bold enough to tell investors and the American people that the Affordable Care Act will hurt profits"

That's all that matters to these greedy assholes. I got mine, fark you and everyone else.
 
2012-11-16 11:56:47 AM  

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.


I think so, yeah.
 
2012-11-16 11:57:29 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.


propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan


Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?
 
2012-11-16 11:58:56 AM  
Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.
 
2012-11-16 11:59:32 AM  

hillbillypharmacist: Oh look another business is using Obamacare as an excuse to screw over workers and customers.

 
2012-11-16 11:59:52 AM  
Nothing makes a shiatty frozen pizza taste better than knowing someone with a bad case of the flu made it and handed it off to a delivery person with untreated scabies!

It's pizza, people. If you don't have ONE decent locally-owned place next to you then I hope you're enjoying the view of The Thing approaching.
 
2012-11-16 11:59:53 AM  

Raharu: WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?

Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.


Service industry businesses typically don't think of their employees as even being human; more like utilitarian livestock.
 
2012-11-16 12:03:06 PM  

vernonFL: I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.


That's where the tangy flavor comes from!

/excuse me while I go barf
 
2012-11-16 12:04:25 PM  
His business is going to suffer greatly. He should just close up shop now.
 
2012-11-16 12:05:30 PM  
Too bad we don't have something like universal healthcare, then these businesses wouldn't have to worry about it.
 
2012-11-16 12:05:44 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?


Look, the guy employs a lot of people, and he has given large amounts of money to charity, but he is still a douche for what he is doing NOW. It is a 50/50 self-made man. Yes, he used daddy's shop to set up business, but he went with a business plan and he made it. Good for him.

He's still being a douche about THIS issue.
 
2012-11-16 12:08:07 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?


Why am I supposed to hate that?
 
2012-11-16 12:08:23 PM  
And when he loses millions in profits from people no longer buying his pizza because of this, he'll blame it on Obama.
 
2012-11-16 12:08:56 PM  

wxboy: And when he loses millions in profits from people no longer buying his pizza because of this, he'll blame it on Obama.


Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
 
2012-11-16 12:11:00 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?


... AND
Weird that in one post you claim to not know anything about how he started the business because there isn't much info on Wiki, then you counter it by referencing info FROM WIKI on how he started the business.
 
2012-11-16 12:14:01 PM  

Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.


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2012-11-16 12:14:49 PM  

propasaurus: Weird that in one post you claim to not know anything about how he started the business because there isn't much info on Wiki, then you counter it by referencing info FROM WIKI on how he started the business.


And "not much" is equal to zero?
 
2012-11-16 12:15:25 PM  

propasaurus: Why am I supposed to hate that?


Because that's what the fox news characture demands.
 
2012-11-16 12:20:19 PM  

propasaurus: Why am I supposed to hate that?


You tell me. You're the one that appears to be denigrating his success.
 
2012-11-16 12:21:47 PM  

propasaurus: Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?

... AND
Weird that in one post you claim to not know anything about how he started the business because there isn't much info on Wiki, then you counter it by referencing info FROM WIKI on how he started the business.


Thought he was using an alt.
 
2012-11-16 12:23:20 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: propasaurus: Why am I supposed to hate that?

You tell me. You're the one that appears to be denigrating his success.


Where did he do that?
 
2012-11-16 12:31:42 PM  

vernonFL: I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.


This is making me laugh uncontrollably.
 
2012-11-16 12:33:40 PM  

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


Cry moar. In 40 years old folks will be protesting with misspelled signs saying "Keep your Govmunt hands off my Obamacare"
 
2012-11-16 12:34:17 PM  

SphericalTime: Dancin_In_Anson: propasaurus: Why am I supposed to hate that?

You tell me. You're the one that appears to be denigrating his success.

Where did he do that?


Right back there when he was being a liberal.
 
2012-11-16 12:34:52 PM  

SphericalTime: Where did he do that?


propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.

 
2012-11-16 12:35:56 PM  
If only there were some sort of alternative system that would universally cover everyone rather than leave it up businesses and individuals to pay into private insurers. I can't think what we'd call it.
 
2012-11-16 12:36:03 PM  
Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society. And yet these are the same people that biatch because the hospital tax for their county hospital keeps going up year after year and Medicare/Medicaid costs keep going up and up

Not shocking. At all
 
2012-11-16 12:37:01 PM  

Sybarite: If only there were some sort of alternative system that would universally cover everyone rather than leave it up businesses and individuals to pay into private insurers. I can't think what we'd call it.


Freedomsurance!
 
2012-11-16 12:38:42 PM  
So he didn't actually borrow money from his dad, he just piggy backed on his dad's success. Y'know, the Romney Plan.
 
2012-11-16 12:43:11 PM  

propasaurus: So he didn't actually borrow money from his dad, he just piggy backed on his dad's success. Y'know, the Romney Plan.


Do not make fun of the Job CreatorsTM
 
2012-11-16 12:46:11 PM  

WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?


Mark Cuban, maybe?

Nit sure he' s a republican though.
 
2012-11-16 12:49:30 PM  
it's official.. Sloth stopped taking his meds after the election.
 
2012-11-16 12:50:30 PM  

propasaurus: So he didn't actually borrow money from his dad, he just piggy backed on his dad's success. Y'know, the Romney Plan.


Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice. His situation isn't exactly the same as a Romney or a Trump being born on third base.

That said, he's being a douche and screw him and his shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 12:54:31 PM  

gilgigamesh: Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice. His situation isn't exactly the same as a Romney or a Trump being born on third base.

That said, he's being a douche and screw him and his shiatty pizza.


Exactly. Being a bootstrapper doesn't inoculate you from criticism for screwing over your workers because of a smallish increase in business expense.
 
2012-11-16 12:56:02 PM  
Again. Health insurance only applies to employees who work over 30 hours a week and does not take effect until 2014. Also the 30 hour a week measurement can be between 3-12 months of payroll. So anyone who says that they are doing x because of Obamacare at this point is either clueless or willfully misleading.
 
2012-11-16 12:56:40 PM  

vernonFL: I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.


Well said.
 
2012-11-16 12:58:33 PM  
In solidarity with John H. Schnatter, we propose that November, 16th, 2012 be National Papa John's Appreciation Day. The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."


If these righties keep spiking their blood pressure by feeding all this anger with junk food "protests" they are going to be pretty thankful for Obamacare.
 
2012-11-16 12:58:43 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Nothing makes a shiatty frozen pizza taste better than knowing someone with a bad case of the flu made it and handed it off to a delivery person with untreated scabies!


Dude, I bought a Trader Joe's frozen pizza last night... it was farkin' AWESOME!
 
2012-11-16 01:00:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.

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Yep, still true.
 
2012-11-16 01:02:44 PM  

gilgigamesh: Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice


Dude...you are SO going to smoke a turd in Purgatory for that admission.
 
2012-11-16 01:09:33 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society. And yet these are the same people that biatch because the hospital tax for their county hospital keeps going up year after year and Medicare/Medicaid costs keep going up and up

Not shocking. At all


In his defense, the $8M/year Douchebag John has to pay for health care under Obamacare probably does pale in comparison to what he would have to pay under a single payer system. So until he advocates for a single payer health care system or at least a public option to drive down costs, he can go EABOD. I'm not eating his shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 01:10:34 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: gilgigamesh: Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice

Dude...you are SO going to smoke a turd in Purgatory for that admission.


Purgatory? I wish. I'm a lawyer, which pretty much guarantees I am already on the greased slide to the 666th plane of the Abyss
 
2012-11-16 01:29:27 PM  

propasaurus: Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.

Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.


I think that was Jimmy Johns.
 
2012-11-16 01:35:09 PM  

gilgigamesh: Purgatory? I wish. I'm a lawyer, which pretty much guarantees I am already on the greased slide to the 666th plane of the Abyss


Lawyer?! Holy shiat dude! I thought you were a piano player in a whorehouse...you know respectable.

(BTW...I was talking to another ball washing bastard in your nape of the woods...neck of the wape and when I come down we all go have ersters and beers)
 
2012-11-16 01:37:04 PM  
I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.
 
2012-11-16 01:42:36 PM  
I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages. Why do we want to be served food by businesses that willfully ignore basic hygenic standards and engender a public health hazard?
 
2012-11-16 01:43:58 PM  

Linger: I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages. Why do we want to be served food by businesses that willfully ignore basic hygenic standards and engender a public health hazard?


Because, socialism.
 
2012-11-16 01:44:49 PM  
It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 01:47:57 PM  

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


You might have a point here if Obamacare only affected pizza delivery franchises. But thats the point of government - to enact policy that will benefit the populace as a whole. I agree that business owners should not have to bear the cost alone of what is a public good. Healthcare should be part of basic infrastructure like roads and bridges. Hopefully we can get to single-payer eventually because a healthy populace makes good sense both for the economy and hygeine.
 
2012-11-16 01:48:13 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.


I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.
 
2012-11-16 01:48:33 PM  

JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.


Yeah, but it's shiatty pizza that you can order over the internet easily. Plus, the garlic dipping sauce, dude, the garlic dipping sauce.
 
2012-11-16 01:51:28 PM  
Nothing wrong with being rich. Being greedy, on the other hand...
 
2012-11-16 01:51:42 PM  
He should just raise the prices. The poor people that order there fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50
 
2012-11-16 01:58:00 PM  

Linger: I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure


You aren't sick. If you aren't puking blood, I expect you to punch in at 4:30, and not a minute later. Look at me, I haven't missed a day of work in over 6 years. That's why I'm the manger of this here fast food chain. Just remember, mind over matter. If you don't let yourself think you are sick, you won't be sick.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:20 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.


Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.
 
2012-11-16 02:11:51 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Being greedy, on the other hand

 
2012-11-16 02:12:49 PM  
Go cry more, you athiest libtards.

This is exactly how Jesus said we should live. If you can't stand to watch a man follow in Jesus' footsteps then you can go soak your heads.
 
2012-11-16 02:15:42 PM  

Linger: I guarantee every restaurant company has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages.



FTFR (fixed that for reality). I know more than a few people, my boyfriend included, who can't afford to take days off to go to the doctor if they're sick, either because they've already used all their sick days by now, or they don't get sick days at all. In my boyfriend's case, he got the flu at the beginning of the year and used up all his sick days not vomiting death all over his office, but now that he's got a bad bronchial infection, he can't stay home. We were able to get him to a doctor during his lunch break, but he has to keep coming in early, staying late, and hacking his lungs out the whole time. If he decides to say "fark it" and stay home anyway, he loses that day's pay, and while we're not one paycheck away from homeless, we still can't afford for him to do that. At least his office is only open two days next week, so he'll have Wednesday through Sunday to rest up.
 
2012-11-16 02:16:27 PM  
His commercials bug me. Ever since last football season, they've been editing them because of the way he does the tagline.

He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

I pointed it out to a buddy and it started bugging the fark out of him, too. What's funny is he can't not do it, so there's always a splice between saying pizza and Papa Johns. Always! They have to cut it because he can't not do it!

And, boohoo, he has to actually offer his employees something besides shiatty wages. Truth is I've only eaten Papa Johns once, and it made me sick. I'm allergic to tomatoes, and Papa Johns does use real tomatoes in their sauce for damned sure.
 
2012-11-16 02:19:51 PM  
I suspect that in the long run, guys like "Papa" and that Denny's douchebag who's telling his customers to tip less are making it easier for the public at large to accept single payer.
 
2012-11-16 02:20:43 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!


Jesus, that annoys the ever-loving fark out of me too, glad I'm not the only one.

Now that he's shown himself to be a total douche it's only going to annoy me that much more.
 
2012-11-16 02:23:52 PM  

muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.


It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society
 
2012-11-16 02:27:15 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes


Good gods man! How do you live?!?!
 
2012-11-16 02:30:50 PM  
Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?
 
2012-11-16 02:35:36 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?


The one in my town is OK, but there's much better available. I go for Ledo's pizza given a choice.
 
2012-11-16 02:36:19 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society


It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.
 
2012-11-16 02:38:51 PM  

St_Francis_P: thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?

The one in my town is OK, but there's much better available. I go for Ledo's pizza given a choice.


I always go to local pizza shops. Actually I just remembered a chain that is worse than PJ: Jet's Pizza. You may as well eat it while sitting on the toilet.
 
2012-11-16 02:39:14 PM  

EnviroDude: He should just raise the prices. The poor people that order there fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50


I'm sure that the people who order there would "fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50" if they released a statement like, "We want to provide the best quality of healthcare for our employees that we can. We've looked at the numbers and found that we can accomplish this by only raising the price of our pizza $.50. We hope you agree that this minimal increase is worthwhile when it comes to the HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE TOUCHING YOUR FOOD."
 
2012-11-16 02:43:22 PM  

muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.


Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.
 
2012-11-16 02:47:52 PM  

WalkingCarpet: muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.

Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.


You don't have anything like THIS in Stamford CT?
 
2012-11-16 02:48:06 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!


Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.
 
2012-11-16 02:49:27 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.


You have my sympathy.
 
2012-11-16 02:59:33 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.


Tomatillo salsa?
 
2012-11-16 03:03:25 PM  

WalkingCarpet: Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?


Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter, and these farktards just double down on it and insist we help even fewer people. Never mind there is no proof that not helping people magically gets them jobs when they can't find any. Never mind that the Holy Job Creators haven't created these jobs that everyone is supposed to have. These people are utterly incapable of making such a connection, and you should stop treating them with respect. They don't deserve it.
 
2012-11-16 03:04:44 PM  

quickdraw: SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.

You might have a point here if Obamacare only affected pizza delivery franchises. But thats the point of government - to enact policy that will benefit the populace as a whole. I agree that business owners should not have to bear the cost alone of what is a public good. Healthcare should be part of basic infrastructure like roads and bridges. Hopefully we can get to single-payer eventually because a healthy populace makes good sense both for the economy and hygeine.


well, you're in luck. Obamacare was written in such a way that the Papa John's of this country can't afford health insurance for their employees. Even companies that were providing health care for their employees before Obamacare can't afford Obamacare. And, as desired, so few people will be on employer health plans there will be no choice but single payer. And the consumer always wins when choice is restricted - when their options are a one-size-fits-all plan for the entire country.
 
2012-11-16 03:05:45 PM  

timujin: HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.

Tomatillo salsa?


I can do some green chile's, if made without tomatoes, and I can do tomatillo in small doses. If I remember, I can go to GNC and buy enzymes to help digest tomatoes. My 'allergy' is I don't produce whatever enzymes are needed to break them down, so when they get into my intestines, it's the equivalent of food poisoning: projectile vomiting, wicked, wicked runs, cold sweats, shaking, I look like a crackhead needing a fix. Since I mentally associate the taste of tomatoes with these symptoms, as soon as I taste tomatoes, I spit them out. When I take the enzymes, I still don't react favorably to the taste of tomatoes, it's ingrained into my brain that tomatoes are bad for me.
 
2012-11-16 03:08:53 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.


And welcome to favorites!

Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

If you don't have the capacity to move beyond that, move to Canada and be a burden on their economy.
 
2012-11-16 03:09:20 PM  

GAT_00: You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter


Except for the fact that people being "helped" by the government is at an all time high. Is that what makes for not only a great country but a great economy? You should be thrilled!
 
2012-11-16 03:11:20 PM  

GAT_00: WalkingCarpet: Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter, and these farktards just double down on it and insist we help even fewer people. Never mind there is no proof that not helping people magically gets them jobs when they can't find any. Never mind that the Holy Job Creators haven't created these jobs that everyone is supposed to have. These people are utterly incapable of making such a connection, and you should stop treating them with respect. They don't deserve it.


No one forces anyone to work anywhere. Slavery ended about 150 years ago. You also aren't talking about government help, you are talking about forcing others to provide a service. Don't work for them if they don't pay or give you what you think you should earn. Isn't there an article here today about how there are pizza places out there that do pay benefits? Go apply there. I also provided a link to the types of places that offer help to those who are un-insured or under-insured. If we have those kind of programs in places here like "Derp Texas", I'm sure you have them in such enlightened places like Tennessee and Connecticut.
 
2012-11-16 03:12:27 PM  

GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.


I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.
 
2012-11-16 03:14:19 PM  

RedPhoenix122: GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.


I think that's part of the reason they use the term.
 
2012-11-16 03:17:22 PM  

RedPhoenix122: GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.


Who uses this term in any serious fashion? I only see it used in FARK threads, sarcastically. I don't believe I recall anyone using it the way people around here say it is, which is not to say that no one ever does. I just don't see it anywhere else.
 
2012-11-16 03:23:44 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.

Tomatillo salsa?

I can do some green chile's, if made without tomatoes, and I can do tomatillo in small doses. If I remember, I can go to GNC and buy enzymes to help digest tomatoes. My 'allergy' is I don't produce whatever enzymes are needed to break them down, so when they get into my intestines, it's the equivalent of food poisoning: projectile vomiting, wicked, wicked runs, cold sweats, shaking, I look like a crackhead needing a fix. Since I mentally associate the taste of tomatoes with these symptoms, as soon as I taste tomatoes, I spit them out. When I take the enzymes, I still don't react favorably to the taste of tomatoes, it's ingrained into my brain that tomatoes are bad for me.


So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

This is completely off-topic, I know, so... um... if only Obamacare could pay for your enzyme treatment, then maybe this wouldn't be a problem for you. There.
 
2012-11-16 03:24:41 PM  
He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should.
 
2012-11-16 03:27:53 PM  

WalkingCarpet: muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.

Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.


For subjects other than basic healthcare, I agree with that sentiment. Want your own house/apartment? Feed a family of 4 on a single income? Get a farking real job, or don't do those things.

But healthcare? Yeah, we should provide that to everybody just like we do with police and fire services.
 
2012-11-16 03:35:41 PM  
worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour a

I knew Obamacare was going to hurt small business.
 
2012-11-16 03:36:04 PM  

Kazan: it's official.. Sloth stopped taking his meds after the election.


He was on them before the election?
 
2012-11-16 03:36:59 PM  
Doing it right:
cdn.thedailybeast.com 
Doing it wrong:
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-16 03:37:05 PM  
papa's in the house!!!www.adstorical.com
 
2012-11-16 03:38:38 PM  
Did anyone mention that his pizza is utter garbage?

/dnrtfa
 
2012-11-16 03:38:45 PM  
Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.
 
2012-11-16 03:38:59 PM  

timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?


I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.
 
2012-11-16 03:39:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.

img29.imageshack.us

So true



Carter Pewterschmidt? 


\jk
 
2012-11-16 03:39:07 PM  
wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25
 
2012-11-16 03:39:19 PM  
What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!
 
2012-11-16 03:39:29 PM  

notShryke: Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.


Shouldn't you be punching yourself in the face or something?
 
2012-11-16 03:39:48 PM  

Cup Check: Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."


Yes, first it is health benefits, then it is tripling their wages. That seems reasonable, the slope actually is that slippery.

What incentive would a grocery bagger have to improve their employment? Yeah that's tough, I kinda like being a grocery bagger, it's such a great job.

We should definitely keep these jobs paying terrible wages so no one wants them because we don't actually need factory workers, store clerks, grave diggers and so on. The country runs just fine without them.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:03 PM  

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


Strawman, glorious, strawman. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways...

Dude, the issue here is the guy is f*cking loaded, he'll do fine under Obamacare, he's just being a sociopathic asshole. His competition also has to bear this, so to say his business is going to take a hit is f*cking retarded, especially with his national business model. You may have been facetious about Papa John's business understanding, but believe me, I am not being facetious when I say you sure as shiat don't know how to run a business or have one f*cking clue about the economy.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:10 PM  
So the right wing argument in this thread is that because Papa John began from fairly humble beginnings he deserves to treat his employees poorly? Curious what the top tax bracket was and what capital gains taxes were like when Mr John was a middle class guy?

Just another case of I've got mine so f*ck you.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:13 PM  
As has been mentioned and as I say in all these threads:

Because the LAST thing you want is HEALTHY PEOPLE HANDLING YOUR FOOD.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:16 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: His commercials bug me. Ever since last football season, they've been editing them because of the way he does the tagline.

He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

I pointed it out to a buddy and it started bugging the fark out of him, too. What's funny is he can't not do it, so there's always a splice between saying pizza and Papa Johns. Always! They have to cut it because he can't not do it!


That's not even close to their most annoying/offensive commercial
 
2012-11-16 03:40:43 PM  
will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back.

Holy shiat? On my two-pizza-per day habit, that means I might end up paying an extra $102.20 per year! Obama truly is history's greatest monster!
 
2012-11-16 03:41:22 PM  

gilgigamesh: propasaurus: So he didn't actually borrow money from his dad, he just piggy backed on his dad's success. Y'know, the Romney Plan.

Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice. His situation isn't exactly the same as a Romney or a Trump being born on third base.

That said, he's being a douche and screw him and his shiatty pizza.


That's the thing. His hard work was years ago. Now the people that work hard for him are going to get screwed so he can hoard some more money.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:00 PM  
Retards wanted to keep an employer based healthcare model, this is what you get.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:14 PM  
Free pizza -- from Papa Johns?

No thanks, you'd have to pay me.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:21 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.


You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick wall, though so we're pretty much done here
 
2012-11-16 03:42:50 PM  

Aarontology: scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.

I wonder if this guy knows that chick-fil-a gave in and the dude won't be donating to those anti-gay groups any more.


But this is so completely different. No religion or moral code says it's bad to offer people health insurance for purchase. Remember, he's not actually "giving" them anything, only subsidize their purchase.

Anyone who intentionally supports a business for its practice of screwing over employees is a sociopath, moron or both.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:53 PM  

YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!


well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so
 
2012-11-16 03:43:00 PM  

ShawnDoc:

You aren't sick. If you aren't puking blood, I expect you to punch in at 4:30, and not a minute later. Look at me, I haven't missed a day of work in over 6 years. That's why I'm the manger of this here fast food chain. Just remember, mind over matter. If you don't let yourself think you are sick, you won't be sick.


Kevin, is that you?

/manager I had at a Ponderosa Steak House sounded just like that
//why yes, I AM that old....
 
2012-11-16 03:43:43 PM  
Well, I already don't buy their shiattty pizza, so I'll just keep on doing that.
 
2012-11-16 03:43:51 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.

You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick wall, though so we' ...


Oh, Peter, don't you see?

Hippocratic Oath - adios!

That's what they're getting at bro!

No ER, no Obamacare, no nothing. You made it out of the womb, and they ensured that, but from here on out, good... f*cking... luck.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:13 PM  

notShryke: Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.


Because your type is leaving? Sounds great.. Need help filling out any forms?
 
2012-11-16 03:44:50 PM  

Cup Check: Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."


Can you imagine what it would be like to live in the kind of hellhole where people who work full time jobs have health insurance? It's bad enough that people like that aren't homeless and starving.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:50 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


he's part of the public
 
2012-11-16 03:45:24 PM  

coeyagi: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.

You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick ...


Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.
 
2012-11-16 03:45:29 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Would be relevant if our model wasn't almost entirely based on employment. You're not going to get any arguments out of me about expanding government-provided care.
 
2012-11-16 03:45:29 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.
 
2012-11-16 03:46:09 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?
 
2012-11-16 03:46:34 PM  
I'd just close them all and say Fark it. Call me when I can go back to my successful business model.
 
2012-11-16 03:46:35 PM  

brianbankerus: Aarontology: scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.

I wonder if this guy knows that chick-fil-a gave in and the dude won't be donating to those anti-gay groups any more.

But this is so completely different. No religion or moral code says it's bad to offer people health insurance for purchase. Remember, he's not actually "giving" them anything, only subsidize their purchase.

Anyone who intentionally supports a business for its practice of screwing over employees is a sociopath, moron or both.


I don't support his business because of shiatty pizza, Jerry Jones, and Peyton Manning.

/I've been at war with Pappa John's for about 6 years now.
//1st straw was sending me a cold pizza 2 hours after I ordered it.
///2nd was almost getting nailed by one of their drivers when he ran a stop sign
////The driver didn't seem to worried about health insurance driving like that
 
2012-11-16 03:47:02 PM  

coeyagi: Oh, Peter, don't you see?

Hippocratic Oath - adios!

That's what they're getting at bro!

No ER, no Obamacare, no nothing. You made it out of the womb, and they ensured that, but from here on out, good... f*cking... luck.


Yep, people like that never hear a thing because their bootstraps are covering their ears. Government never did a thing for them
 
2012-11-16 03:47:25 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.


There's a bar that just started delivering pizzas here and they are the shiat. $9.00 large 1-topping delivered. The sauce is a little weak, but good and they do not skimp on the cheese. We actually learned to not order extra cheese.

The funniest thing it they're called Paddy's Backdoor Pizza (because they're run out of the back of the bar). Their menu includes an Italian Stallion and a Meat Explosion.

I still cannot bring myself to order a Meat Explosion from Paddy's Backdoor Pizza. Would never be able to say it on the phone without breaking into juvenile snickers.
 
2012-11-16 03:47:27 PM  

JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.


No.

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2012-11-16 03:47:30 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.


Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.
 
2012-11-16 03:47:32 PM  
I stand by whomever said upthread to order from a good local place and screw this guy with a rusty hook. At work we have successfully lobbied the powers that be that on pizza day to order from 1 of 3 local places. We are a smaller company and giving our money to a chain doesn't make sense.
 
2012-11-16 03:48:28 PM  
Business Owners: "OUR BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO SUFFER DUE TO OBAMACARE.

Libtards: "Maybe the Gov can provide insurance instead of you job creators. That way, you will no longer have the burden to provide insurance to your employees.

Business Owners: "YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY COMMUNIST MOUTH"
 
2012-11-16 03:49:12 PM  

InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.



Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit
 
2012-11-16 03:49:16 PM  

lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?


not particularly.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:23 PM  
libraryrenewal.org

The job creators have altered the deal. Pray they do not alter it further.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:25 PM  

I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.


Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:43 PM  
I think we're missing the larger point here:

Papa John's Pizza tastes like salted sh*t.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:55 PM  

St_Francis_P: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.


How many republicans voted for obamacare?
 
2012-11-16 03:50:07 PM  
I'm a little weirded out that I'm really enjoying this lennavan vs. skullkrusher thing that's been happening...

/no popcorn, but I did just crack a beer open
 
2012-11-16 03:50:14 PM  

skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25


You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?
 
2012-11-16 03:50:16 PM  
Moral of the story: To save rent-seeking trickle-down economics, it is necessary to let a reasonable amount of the money actually trickle down. Otherwise you'll get ground up by the median voter theorem once the middle class figures out you're hoarding the cash and they now have a lot more in common with the poor than they do with you. It sucks ... but one person, one vote.
 
2012-11-16 03:50:49 PM  

muck4doo: InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.


Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit


No thankfully we have a social net in place because the "public demanded stuff".
 
2012-11-16 03:51:37 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Plus, the garlic dipping sauce, dude, the garlic dipping sauce.


That sauce is liquid crack and the banana pepper is the pipe with which to smoke it.

/College roommate was a PJ delivery guy.
//Ate lots of free PJs.
///Never again.
 
2012-11-16 03:51:38 PM  

eagles95: I stand by whomever said upthread to order from a good local place and screw this guy with a rusty hook. At work we have successfully lobbied the powers that be that on pizza day to order from 1 of 3 local places. We are a smaller company and giving our money to a chain doesn't make sense.


You are assuming there is a good local place. I've tried all the local places, they're all horrible.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:07 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?


sure
 
2012-11-16 03:52:21 PM  
These "conservative claiming that Obama policy X will force them to raise prices" stories are the height of stupidity.

If they could sell their product for a higher price successfully, they would have already done it and pocketed the cash. That leaves us with two options: either A) The business is just barely breaking even and is forced to raise prices or close or B) some jackass worth $600,000,000 is asking for public sympathy in order to get people to swallow the increased costs of his business so that his profit margin can remain the same.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:23 PM  

I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.


Why the f*ck do you have to make me agree with you for once?
 
2012-11-16 03:52:23 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?


No. That's quite impressive. But that doesn't mean I have to like that he is a selfish, greedy prick.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:28 PM  

InmanRoshi: muck4doo: InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.


Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit

No thankfully we have a social net in place because the "public demanded stuff".


So you're saying you were just being silly then? Good enough. I like to be silly at times to. We'll have to do pancakes at IHOP sometime.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:28 PM  

I alone am best: St_Francis_P: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.

How many republicans voted for obamacare?


Dunno. In any event, a lot of Democrats would have been afraid to vote for single-payer, because of the association with socialism.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:33 PM  
I'm OK with guys like this getting the publicity they deserve.Kind of like how Chic-Fil-A has become the I'm With Stupid chicken place. Enjoy your #1 spot with toothless rednecks.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:58 PM  

I alone am best: St_Francis_P: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.

How many republicans voted for obamacare?


How many republicans would rape kittens if it helped them politically?

NEXT.... on Geraldo!
 
2012-11-16 03:53:01 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?


Now now, you can't expect rightwingers to argue based on FACTS, their campaigns aren't going to be dictated to by factcheckers!
 
2012-11-16 03:53:09 PM  

vernonFL: I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.


img1.ak.crunchyroll.com
 
2012-11-16 03:53:25 PM  

FunkyBlue: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.


If I had to compare it to other dominos. little caesars, pizza hut ect I would have to say it was the bread. All the bread from the other places sits like a rock in my gut. So I would rank it as follows.

Papa Johns
Pizza Hut
Dominos/Sbarro

Little Caesars
 
2012-11-16 03:53:54 PM  

muck4doo: It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you... We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.


wtfamireading.jpg
 
2012-11-16 03:53:54 PM  

FunkyBlue: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.


I just had Papa John's for the first time the other week. I don't know why you think that garlic crap they throw in makes it taste any better. There are a couple good local places around, but unfortunately when I was ordering, it was too late for them to be open. Can't say I'll go with Papa John's again though. Threw most of it out.
 
2012-11-16 03:53:55 PM  
Can we all agree that Jet's Pizza truly sucks?
 
2012-11-16 03:54:21 PM  
What will Papa John's Tombstone say?
 
2012-11-16 03:54:23 PM  

InmanRoshi: muck4doo: InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.


Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit

No thankfully we have a social net in place because the "public demanded stuff".


But yes, before that point where the workforce organized, workplace regulations went into effect, labor laws were implemented, and a social infrastructure was established (ie all the things rich white people hate) around the turn of the 20th Century.... yes, the major urban areas in the US did resemble Calcutta.
 
2012-11-16 03:54:34 PM  
"Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

Fighting the law? Well, now doesn't that make him a good citizen.

muck4doo: There are other pizza places that do offer benefits.

turklishtefl.com

Never worked a low-wage job in your life, have you?
 
2012-11-16 03:54:47 PM  

coeyagi: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Why the f*ck do you have to make me agree with you for once?


We agree on a lot more, I just don't post about. Where would the fun be in that?
 
2012-11-16 03:55:13 PM  

Con Fabulous: i


A pal of mine just bought a new Porsche (ok, it had 6000 miles on it).

Can't afford to give his 39 employees a $5 a week raise because of taxes.
 
2012-11-16 03:55:38 PM  
I'm gonna rob a Papa Johns tonight, so I'm really getting a kick...
 
2012-11-16 03:56:04 PM  

skullkrusher: sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?

sure


So is it just that you don't know how averages work?

I simply don't understand how you can be so totally confused by the basic math involved here. Either you're grossly ignorant or you're deliberately being stupid.
 
2012-11-16 03:56:32 PM  

dryknife: What will Papa John's Tombstone say?


Congressional medal of honor winner... survived countless incursions into untapped markets.... killed for vagrancy butthurt about the same law everyone else deals with.
 
2012-11-16 03:57:38 PM  
Here is what pisses me off in this thread: the anti-assistance types repeat some form of "well they choose to work in a shiatty job so it's their fault." Are you people unaware that there are not enough well-paying jobs out there? Do you understand that even if that one fictional worker goes out and gets a better job with benefits, that now somebody else is working that shiat job. Do you really think people choose shiatty jobs, or are those the only jobs available? There are always going to be winners and losers in a capitalist economy, but that doesn't mean we have to treat them like shiat.

You would be better of suggesting we get rid of shiat jobs than telling everybody in your fantasy world to just get a better job. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THOSE JOBS.
 
2012-11-16 03:57:54 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.


The quote is great. How many times has Fox News called Obama the most divisive president in history? I guess republicans don't seem to think they are pitting Americans against each other. However when you think about they probably aren't, since liberals aren't real Americans anyways.
 
2012-11-16 03:58:18 PM  
Add them to my new business ban list:

Target
Menards
Walmart
Papa John's
 
2012-11-16 03:58:26 PM  

skepticultist: muck4doo: It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you... We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

wtfamireading.jpg


A post where some bootstrappy right winger refuses to acknowledge that a business should take part in ensuring the health of their employees so that the cost is borne directly on those that use the business instead of everyone. Instead he or she wants the government too. Meanwhile, in another thread he or she is bemoaning how large government is and how much it is taxing people
 
2012-11-16 03:58:27 PM  
Papa Johns could support free weed and blow jobs and I still wouldn't eat their crappy pizza
 
2012-11-16 03:58:36 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?

sure

So is it just that you don't know how averages work?

I simply don't understand how you can be so totally confused by the basic math involved here. Either you're grossly ignorant or you're deliberately being stupid.


So what you're really saying is delivery drivers need to be audited because they are not reporting tips?
 
2012-11-16 03:58:54 PM  
He is an evil rich guy, he deserves to be demonized, and like all the other dickweeds who improve their profit margin by exploiting and underpaying their workers, he needs to shut up and cover his employees' healthcare (currently paid for by you and me out of our taxes at an emergency room near you). And, like Chik-Fil-A, he's about to learn that , while there's a limit to how much money people will spend to demonstrate political sympathy, there's no limit to how much they WON'T spend to show their displeasure. If he wants to be boycotted, fine by me...
 
2012-11-16 03:58:58 PM  
Personally, I was amused by Chik-fil-A Appreciation Day. Millions of suckers wait three hours in line for a mediocre sandwich. Yet, this election added three new states that approves gay marriages.

I will say that Dan Cathy owes Mike Huckabee a blowjob. A long, deep-throating blowjob.
 
2012-11-16 03:59:03 PM  
Wonder if Peyton Manning treats his employees like crap like Papa John.

/since he owns 21 Papa John's in CO.
//how much of those 2 million "pizzas" is he responsible for
 
2012-11-16 03:59:22 PM  

Con Fabulous: These "conservative claiming that Obama policy X will force them to raise prices" stories are the height of stupidity.

If they could sell their product for a higher price successfully, they would have already done it and pocketed the cash. That leaves us with two options: either A) The business is just barely breaking even and is forced to raise prices or close or B) some jackass worth $600,000,000 is asking for public sympathy in order to get people to swallow the increased costs of his business so that his profit margin can remain the same.


This is why I treat all these instances of employers claiming that Obamacare is doing X to their business worth a grain of salt. If Obamacare really forces your hand to raise prices to maintain the same profit margin, there's no requirement to publicly proclaim this and advertise to the whole world that your prices are going up. Doing so would not only put you at a disadvantage with those who support the law, but also would embed in the mindset of EVERYONE that your prices are higher than say, Domino's or Pizza Hut, who have remained quiet. The only reason this dickbag is doing all this is because he values the ability to assail Obamacare at the price of whatever lost sales come of his announcement.
 
2012-11-16 03:59:47 PM  
you know, i could manage to have the smallest possible amount of respect for conservatives if they could manage to be honest about what they believe.

i hope this guy gets devoured by hyenas.
 
2012-11-16 04:00:08 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Here is what pisses me off in this thread: the anti-assistance types repeat some form of "well they choose to work in a shiatty job so it's their fault." Are you people unaware that there are not enough well-paying jobs out there? Do you understand that even if that one fictional worker goes out and gets a better job with benefits, that now somebody else is working that shiat job. Do you really think people choose shiatty jobs, or are those the only jobs available? There are always going to be winners and losers in a capitalist economy, but that doesn't mean we have to treat them like shiat.

You would be better of suggesting we get rid of shiat jobs than telling everybody in your fantasy world to just get a better job. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THOSE JOBS.


They think there's enough of a labor pool from 16-22 that only students ever work these kinds of jobs. If you're an adult working a shiatty job, well you must have done something wrong in life and deserve whatever scraps you get.
 
2012-11-16 04:00:11 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Here is what pisses me off in this thread: the anti-assistance types repeat some form of "well they choose to work in a shiatty job so it's their fault." Are you people unaware that there are not enough well-paying jobs out there? Do you understand that even if that one fictional worker goes out and gets a better job with benefits, that now somebody else is working that shiat job. Do you really think people choose shiatty jobs, or are those the only jobs available? There are always going to be winners and losers in a capitalist economy, but that doesn't mean we have to treat them like shiat.

You would be better of suggesting we get rid of shiat jobs than telling everybody in your fantasy world to just get a better job. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THOSE JOBS.


And there is a sizable portion of any population that is never, ever going to be qualified for high paying jobs, no matter if you made them go to school every day for 24 hours a day for 20 years.
 
2012-11-16 04:00:12 PM  
Schnatter is a local boy (Southern Indiana) so we sometimes get a little gossip about him. I spoke with an attorney who went to high school with "Papa" John. He said the guy was a douche, but he sold good weed and never shorted the weight.
 
2012-11-16 04:00:54 PM  

ShawnDoc: You are assuming there is a good local place. I've tried all the local places, they're all horrible.


What's even more amazing is that Papa John's and Dominoes are putting successfully competing with the local pizza guys in NYC. And they are often more expensive, too, so it isn't the cheap food thing.

I mean, why are people buying that crap when you can't throw a stone without hitting someone making a competent slice?

//stoopid new yawkers
 
2012-11-16 04:01:11 PM  

InmanRoshi: InmanRoshi: muck4doo: InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.


Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit

No thankfully we have a social net in place because the "public demanded stuff".

But yes, before that point where the workforce organized, workplace regulations went into effect, labor laws were implemented, and a social infrastructure was established (ie all the things rich white people hate) around the turn of the 20th Century.... yes, the major urban areas in the US did resemble Calcutta.


Can we agree Papa John is bad because of Jerry Jones?

/Gonna head to CowboysZone for a bit
 
2012-11-16 04:01:19 PM  

I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.


HotWingConspiracy: JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.

No.


[img.photobucket.com image 625x600]


That's genius! The markup on engine lifters sold as "Medical Apparatus" must be enormous.
 
2012-11-16 04:01:20 PM  
Maybe you should have supported a single-payer system then asshole... instead, you got the GOP inspired alternative created by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Look in the farking mirror once in a while you disingenuous farks!
 
2012-11-16 04:01:38 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Here is what pisses me off in this thread: the anti-assistance types repeat some form of "well they choose to work in a shiatty job so it's their fault." Are you people unaware that there are not enough well-paying jobs out there? Do you understand that even if that one fictional worker goes out and gets a better job with benefits, that now somebody else is working that shiat job. Do you really think people choose shiatty jobs, or are those the only jobs available? There are always going to be winners and losers in a capitalist economy, but that doesn't mean we have to treat them like shiat.


those people just got to be smart and work harder like those two women fighting over David Petraeus.
 
2012-11-16 04:01:53 PM  

skullkrusher: sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?

sure


FWIW, I have worked delivery for Pizza Hut, Dominos, and a couple of local places (hey it was kinda fun and you can smoke) and not once was I ever paid less than the actual minimum wage, not the 2.13 or whatever the food servant wage is.
 
2012-11-16 04:02:20 PM  

muck4doo: Can we agree Papa John is bad because of Jerry Jones?


I think that's something everybody can agree with. F*ckin' Jones.
 
2012-11-16 04:02:26 PM  
I'll pay the extra 14 cents per pizza if everyone will shut the fark up about this.

Jesus, the priorities of some people in this country are farked up.
 
2012-11-16 04:02:33 PM  

skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25


Not for tipped employees, which is the majority of their employee base. That being said, no way the average PJ's wage is $7/hr.

/worked there for almost 2 years
//would deepthroat a shotgun before eating any of their "food"
 
2012-11-16 04:02:51 PM  
"OK, sir, that'll be $10.00 for your pizza"

"OK, I've got a nice crisp sawbuck for ya right here..."

"Oh, I'm sorry...in order to provide health insurance for our employees, I'm going to have to charge you $10.14"

"WHAT?!? THAT'S A GODDAM OUTRAGE!!1! F*CK THAT! YOU CAN SHOVE THAT PIE UP YOUR ASS PAPA JOHN!!"

"Oh dear...we will clearly have to fire people and make everyone part-time to survive this tyrranical communist oppression"

Dumb-fark "conservatives": YAY for Papa John!! I already eat Chik-fil-A on odd days, so from now on, it's Papa John's on even days!  This country will cease to be great when we don't support insanely wealthy people who would rather screw all their employees than tack on 14 fkn cents to their shiatty product.
 
2012-11-16 04:03:06 PM  

SlothB77: quickdraw: SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.

You might have a point here if Obamacare only affected pizza delivery franchises. But thats the point of government - to enact policy that will benefit the populace as a whole. I agree that business owners should not have to bear the cost alone of what is a public good. Healthcare should be part of basic infrastructure like roads and bridges. Hopefully we can get to single-payer eventually because a healthy populace makes good sense both for the economy and hygeine.

well, you're in luck. Obamacare was written in such a way that the Papa John's of this country can't afford health insurance for their employees. Even companies that were providing health care for their employees before Obamacare can't afford Obamacare. And, as desired, so few people will be on employer health plans there will be no choice but single payer. And the consumer always wins when choice is restricted - when their options are a one-size-fits-all plan for the entire country.


Your statements are certainly worth considering, following your establishment of credibility by predicting that Mr. Romney would win his bid for the Presidency.
 
2012-11-16 04:03:36 PM  
If there pizzas didn't taste like ass I would boycott them.

But their pizzas taste like ass so I don't buy them anyways.

till the guys a douchbag and peyton manning is an asshat
 
2012-11-16 04:03:58 PM  

tricycleracer: Blue_Blazer: Here is what pisses me off in this thread: the anti-assistance types repeat some form of "well they choose to work in a shiatty job so it's their fault." Are you people unaware that there are not enough well-paying jobs out there? Do you understand that even if that one fictional worker goes out and gets a better job with benefits, that now somebody else is working that shiat job. Do you really think people choose shiatty jobs, or are those the only jobs available? There are always going to be winners and losers in a capitalist economy, but that doesn't mean we have to treat them like shiat.

You would be better of suggesting we get rid of shiat jobs than telling everybody in your fantasy world to just get a better job. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THOSE JOBS.

They think there's enough of a labor pool from 16-22 that only students ever work these kinds of jobs. If you're an adult working a shiatty job, well you must have done something wrong in life and deserve whatever scraps you get.



Ahh, republican douchebags, the stupid that keeps on stupiding.
 
2012-11-16 04:04:19 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I'll pay the extra 14 cents per pizza if everyone will shut the fark up about this.

Jesus, the priorities of some people in this country are farked up.


I will too. But I'd rather see his dough-slinging employees' wages go up percentage-wise as much as even his middle managers, or even half as much.

Seriously, f*ckers, look at the graphs on wages for the top earners and the bottom earners. You cannot argue that this shiat is sustainable.
 
2012-11-16 04:04:23 PM  

tricycleracer: Can we all agree that Jet's Pizza truly sucks?


Yes, yes we can.

If you want a good local place I recommend CD Roma's or Feola's.
But since you're downtown you also get to have Joey Brooklyn's.
 
2012-11-16 04:04:43 PM  

theknuckler_33: Maybe you should have supported a single-payer system then asshole... instead, you got the GOP inspired alternative created by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Look in the farking mirror once in a while you disingenuous farks!


Well, see the idea is that those employees take that $7 an hour and buy health insurance themselves, because you know, you can do so much with $7 an hour. It's amazing.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:04 PM  

SlothB77: well, you're in luck. Obamacare was written in such a way that the Papa John's of this country can't afford health insurance for their employees. Even companies that were providing health care for their employees before Obamacare can't afford Obamacare.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA, THIS IS WHAT TEABAGGERS REALLY BELIEVE.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:14 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: sprawl15: skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25

You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?

sure

So is it just that you don't know how averages work?

I simply don't understand how you can be so totally confused by the basic math involved here. Either you're grossly ignorant or you're deliberately being stupid.


I have a pretty good handle on how averages work so there's really no confusion. I hadn't considered drivers but I don't think it is "gross ignorance" and it is certainly not deliberate. Of course, Papa John's franchises their locations so the majority of people under "Papa" John's employ are mostly the staff necessary to maintain a large, publicly traded company - not delivery drivers. This just got terribly awkward for you.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:41 PM  
Yeah well.
His pizza sucks bland ass.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:48 PM  

cryinoutloud: "Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

Fighting the law? Well, now doesn't that make him a good citizen.

muck4doo: There are other pizza places that do offer benefits.
[turklishtefl.com image 386x350]

Never worked a low-wage job in your life, have you?




My Bush supporting in-law, ex in-law sister in law once quit her pizza job. The proprietor wanted health insurance for his employees, and ate some of his profits to get that. ( was damn fine pizza too ). She quit because she would have had to pay a couple of bucks into the health insurance, but had to take the health insurance as part of the divorve agreement ( due to the kid ).

I felt so bad for the pizza restaurant owner. He brought real NY pizza to the midwest, actually got quality ingredients and had the heart to care for the people who worked for him. He was one of those sincere, non proselytizing Christians.

This had me enraged. She could not spare like 35$/month to get the kid healthcare and preferred instead to use the emergency room if he got a fever. She later got a job at dominos ( I guess she was locked into pizza ). She fed that kid pizza that she smuggled from work three meals a day, 7 days a week. She never bought him clothes ( lets let the grandparents do that ), but she had enough to smoke and buy nice shoes and new video games each month.

Sorry, just...frustrating. When I think of red state voters, I think of her. I feel so bad for the kid, he's a good kid. I'm venting :( :( :( and not in a funny farky way.
 
2012-11-16 04:05:53 PM  

dryknife: What will Papa John's Tombstone say?


"Aren't you glad you are eating me instead of that crap you sell?"
 
2012-11-16 04:06:34 PM  
so did the Papa Johns in Massachusetts do this when Romney implemented his Romneycare?
 
2012-11-16 04:06:35 PM  

ghare: Con Fabulous: i

A pal of mine just bought a new Porsche (ok, it had 6000 miles on it).

Can't afford to give his 39 employees a $5 a week raise because of taxes.


Dude, that's almost $200 a week!

He's probably thinking long-term. Sure, he might have a brand new Porsche now, but where will he be in 5 years when it's no longer so shiny and his world is spiraling down into a dark abyss? Coincidentally, $5 a week for 39 people over 5 years is the price of a new Porsche...
 
2012-11-16 04:06:56 PM  

cryinoutloud: "Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

Fighting the law? Well, now doesn't that make him a good citizen.

muck4doo: There are other pizza places that do offer benefits.
[turklishtefl.com image 386x350]

Never worked a low-wage job in your life, have you?



http://www.fark.com/comments/7437362/You-know-whos-happy-about-Papa- Jo hns-adding-an-ObamaCharge-to-their-prices-Every-other-pizza-chain-that s-who
 
2012-11-16 04:07:06 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?

No. That's quite impressive. But that doesn't mean I have to like that he is a selfish, greedy prick.


It's really not that impressive if you know anything about the foodservice industry. No lease to pay? No equipment costs? He was already ten steps ahead of anyone else starting from scratch.
 
2012-11-16 04:07:51 PM  
scienceblogs.com
 
2012-11-16 04:08:01 PM  

serial_crusher: He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should EVERYONE SHOULD BUY THEIR OWN.

 
2012-11-16 04:08:31 PM  

Con Fabulous: ghare: Con Fabulous: i

A pal of mine just bought a new Porsche (ok, it had 6000 miles on it).

Can't afford to give his 39 employees a $5 a week raise because of taxes.

Dude, that's almost $200 a week!

He's probably thinking long-term. Sure, he might have a brand new Porsche now, but where will he be in 5 years when it's no longer so shiny and his world is spiraling down into a dark abyss? Coincidentally, $5 a week for 39 people over 5 years is the price of a new Porsche...


He's also positive Obama really is a sekret muslin anti-colonialist who pledged on his father's grave to destroy America.
 
2012-11-16 04:08:46 PM  
I'd join a Papa John's boycott if I didn't already not eat there over it being shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 04:09:32 PM  
His pizza is bad and he should feel bad.

Even if his pizza was good - which it is not - this is how he wants for a public image? "If my candidate loses an election I am going to raise my prices and be a dick to my employees". That's soem fine PR work there Lou.

Oh and Peyton Manning now has like 30+ Papa Johns franchises. Just one more reason to not like him.
 
2012-11-16 04:09:38 PM  
I'll gladly pay $1 more for pizza if it means healthcare for all the food workers. I get him being upset since multiplying 10 cents times a million pizzas is a chunk of change (pocket change for him) but why are the customers upset? Is a dime really that big of deal? Also you know how ridiculously inexpensive pizza is to make? It has one of the highest return values of any kind of food a restaurant can serve
 
2012-11-16 04:09:50 PM  

CujoQuarrel: serial_crusher: He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should EVERYONE SHOULD BUY THEIR OWN.


wow, you've totally solved the healthcare problem we have in america.

Brilliant! Buy your own. Oh if only someone would let the poor know thats all they need to do.

You sir should run as a candidate for the tea party.
 
2012-11-16 04:09:52 PM  

CujoQuarrel: serial_crusher: He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should EVERYONE SHOULD BUY THEIR OWN.


And those that can't?
 
2012-11-16 04:09:59 PM  
This is real folks
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-11-16 04:10:09 PM  
To be honest, if the restaurants I go to raise their prices 14 cents, I probably wouldn't even notice.
 
2012-11-16 04:10:14 PM  

propasaurus: I suspect that in the long run, guys like "Papa" and that Denny's douchebag who's telling his customers to tip less are making it easier for the public at large to accept single payer.


And what, pray tell, would lead you to believe that they do not want this?

/Imagine all those corporations and their bottom lines if they did not have to contribute to health insurance for employees.
//Or union retirees.
///More money for the CxO!
 
2012-11-16 04:10:20 PM  
"Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour

I sense a race for the Presidency
 
2012-11-16 04:11:24 PM  

Tradskinzd: tricycleracer: Can we all agree that Jet's Pizza truly sucks?

Yes, yes we can.

If you want a good local place I recommend CD Roma's or Feola's.
But since you're downtown you also get to have Joey Brooklyn's.


I've been hooked on Old Northeast Pizza lately. Cash only is a pain, but it's really good stuff.
 
2012-11-16 04:12:02 PM  
I totally agree with him. Employers shouldn't have to pay for health care at all. I'm glad to hear he's advocating for single payer insurance.

That's what he's advocating for, right?
 
2012-11-16 04:12:15 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: CujoQuarrel: serial_crusher: He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should EVERYONE SHOULD BUY THEIR OWN.

wow, you've totally solved the healthcare problem we have in america.

Brilliant! Buy your own. Oh if only someone would let the poor know thats all they need to do.

You sir should run as a candidate for the tea party.


And if you don't have any money just borrow it from your parents, my friend.
 
2012-11-16 04:13:40 PM  
His HQ is down the street from Humana's HQ. He can pay them in pizza.
 
2012-11-16 04:13:52 PM  

dennysgod: To be honest, if the restaurants I go to raise their prices 14 cents, I probably wouldn't even notice.


Exactly -so, he's making this political statement for absolutely no reason. He could have just added the $0.15 onto his pizza and kept his mouth shut. Now, on TOP OF the problem of trying to unload soggy cardboard with ketchup on it, he also has to sell it to people who think he's a farking asshole.
 
2012-11-16 04:14:03 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: I'll gladly pay $1 more for pizza if it means healthcare for all the food workers. I get him being upset since multiplying 10 cents times a million pizzas is a chunk of change (pocket change for him) but why are the customers upset? Is a dime really that big of deal? Also you know how ridiculously inexpensive pizza is to make? It has one of the highest return values of any kind of food a restaurant can serve


Somebody here suggested he could charge 25 cents more per pizza, and make positive PR (and 11 cents) by marketing it as his contribution to worker's health. Instead, he decided to be a dick.
 
2012-11-16 04:14:21 PM  
Papa John is paying his employees exactly the wage they are worth. Working in a pizza place doesn't require much education or any decent technical skills or abilities. If they want to earn more they should get an education and find a better job, or they could always take a risk and start up their own business.
 
2012-11-16 04:14:21 PM  

whidbey: "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour

I sense a race for the Presidency


Sorry, they already tried running an asshole with a shiatty pizza chain.

images.politico.com
 
2012-11-16 04:14:31 PM  

Zoophagous: His pizza is bad and he should feel bad.

Even if his pizza was good - which it is not - this is how he wants for a public image? "If my candidate loses an election I am going to raise my prices and be a dick to my employees". That's soem fine PR work there Lou.

Oh and Peyton Manning now has like 30+ Papa Johns franchises. Just one more reason to not like him.


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I hated that dickhead since he started ad-whoring every commercial all those years ago. F*ck him.
 
2012-11-16 04:14:52 PM  
Since when do pizza delivery boys get health care benefits anyways? Granted it's been a while since I was in food service, but if I recall most shiat-ass jobs like that offer less than 40 hours per week so that none of the employees are full time and eligible for benefits.A lot of people working in food service only get enough hours to make part time wages, so they have two or three jobs - without any benefits. I'm sure the people working office jobs at Papa John Corporate Headquarters have insurance, and maybe some of the store managers, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of the workforce has zero health care as it is.
 
2012-11-16 04:14:56 PM  

rowast: This is real folks
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 797x598]


They sure look like people the GOP loves.
 
JW
2012-11-16 04:15:11 PM  
"We're standing up for a business owner that was bold enough to tell investors and the American people that the Affordable Care Act will hurt profits," Justen Charters, the group's president, told POLITICO.

Having to provide healthcare for employees hurts profits.
Having to pay employees a certain minimum wage hurts profits.
Having to maintain safe and non discriminatory standards in the workplace hurts profits.
Having to dispose of garbage in a responsible way hurts profits.
Having to ensure that food meets certain safety standards hurts profits.
Having to ensure delivery vehicles meet certain standards hurts profits.
Having to pay employees hurts profits.
Having competitors hurts profits.
Having consumer access to information about health decisions hurts profits.

Sure, some standards hurts profits. Too bad. It's called "being part of society". I don't get how people can get all worked up that somehow standard is "totally unreasonable" whereas others somehow don't merit discussion. I *really* don't get it when the argument is "but I want to make a hundred million a year and not give my employees health care" versus "givnig employees health care and making ninety million a year".
 
2012-11-16 04:15:25 PM  

Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education


Fine, make education more affordable in this country.
 
2012-11-16 04:16:59 PM  

skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?

not particularly.


Do you get a general feeling of discomfort holding those two beliefs simultaneously?
 
2012-11-16 04:17:04 PM  

Semi-Sane: or they could always take a risk and start up their own business.


Most people don't have a free lease and free use of equipment in the back of the old man's bar.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:08 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Fine, make education more affordable in this country.


borrow it from your parents, my friend
 
2012-11-16 04:17:32 PM  

skullkrusher: Of course, Papa John's franchises their locations so the majority of people under "Papa" John's employ are mostly the staff necessary to maintain a large, publicly traded company - not delivery drivers. This just got terribly awkward for you.


Sure, if you're a disingenuous shiat who thinks the only number that should only be looked at solely on the corporate level rather than across franchises is average salary.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:36 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Sorry, they already tried running an asshole with a shiatty pizza chain.


Racist.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:41 PM  
This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:49 PM  

I alone am best: FunkyBlue: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.

If I had to compare it to other dominos. little caesars, pizza hut ect I would have to say it was the bread. All the bread from the other places sits like a rock in my gut. So I would rank it as follows.

Papa Johns
Pizza Hut
Dominos/Sbarro

Little Caesars


Have you tried Dominos Artisan pizza? The crust is wildly different from their regular pizzas (like a truly hand-tossed crust), and overall they′re actually pretty yummy. The Spinach & Feta is my favorite. I just wish they′d let you add ingredients: adding chicken to that one should be quite good indeed, a nice Florentine-style pizza. A single Artisan pizza serves two people for lunch or one really hungry person for dinner.

The American Legends are also pretty good, but are on the same crusts as their regular pizzas. Speaking of which, they recently replaced their Deep Dish crust with a new Pan crust, and they also offer a gluten-free crust.

In short, Dominos has not stood still. If you′re judging them based on ½ a decade or more ago, give ′em another try. It′s really not the same anymore.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:59 PM  
How do you people eat that shiat?
 
2012-11-16 04:18:16 PM  

yelmrog: Lionel Mandrake: Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?

No. That's quite impressive. But that doesn't mean I have to like that he is a selfish, greedy prick.

It's really not that impressive if you know anything about the foodservice industry. No lease to pay? No equipment costs? He was already ten steps ahead of anyone else starting from scratch.


He bought a pizza oven, and rented the storage room from his father.
He's still a total yam-bag, but he really did start the business from nothing.

A guy I graduated high-school with started a pizza joint in 1991, and now it's up to five locations. No giant chain, but he preferrs being more of a hands-on guy, and splits his time between all of the locations. His food is great, there's a pretty good beer menu, and live music on the weekends. He started with pretty much nothing, and is doing pretty well.
I don't know how he feels about 'Bamacare, but his politics were always fairly liberal. I have no idea what his payroll/benefits structure is.
 
2012-11-16 04:18:17 PM  

sprawl15: average salary wage.


FTFM
 
2012-11-16 04:18:21 PM  
"More than 17,000 Facebook users plan to eat at the pizza chain on Friday to support the company's founder and CEO, John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back."

Let's see. 17000 people are going to be ordering pizzas being made and delivered by people for whom they support lowered hours, cutbacks, and no health insurance. If I were one of those people ordering that political pizza, I would be afraid to eat it.
 
2012-11-16 04:18:40 PM  

Semi-Sane: Papa John is paying his employees exactly the wage they are worth. Working in a pizza place doesn't require much education or any decent technical skills or abilities. If they want to earn more they should get an education and find a better job, or they could always take a risk and start up their own business.


Yes, sweetie, that's right, now go ahead and get your drink of water and go to bed, the grownups are talking.
 
2012-11-16 04:18:44 PM  

lennavan: skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?

not particularly.

Do you get a general feeling of discomfort holding those two beliefs simultaneously?


no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?
 
2012-11-16 04:18:54 PM  

coeyagi:
Arian Foster: Candy Crowley


LMFAO
 
2012-11-16 04:19:07 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.


u could always try DEADLY NIGHTSHADE (DATURA)
 
2012-11-16 04:19:10 PM  
I hope he doesn't get a sales boost out of this, still it worked for Chik Fil A when all the conservatives turned out. It's really the height of freedom if you think about it.......eating what you're told to eat my rich guys.
 
2012-11-16 04:19:20 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: How do you people eat that shiat?


With a lot of bread. The more you have, the less you have to eat. :)
 
2012-11-16 04:19:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: whidbey: "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour

I sense a race for the Presidency

Sorry, they already tried running an asshole with a shiatty pizza chain.

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


I loved Godfather's when I was a kid. They had awesome video games in the one we went to, especially the table version of Pac-Man. Good times.

And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.
 
2012-11-16 04:20:00 PM  

jso2897: This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.


I hear ya. You can't take yourself out of the equation because you were never in the equation.

Oh well... might I suggest....

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Attica! Attica! Attica!
 
2012-11-16 04:20:59 PM  
How do I boycott a restaurant that I already avoid like the plague?
 
2012-11-16 04:21:03 PM  
Does anybody else find it amusing that Papa Johns new mascot is a guy who gets health insurance covered by his employeer?
 
2012-11-16 04:22:05 PM  
I worked for PJ's for a couple of years. They didn't pay me for shiat, I worked terrible hours and eventually got asked to leave (screwed) for asking my store manager for a letter of reference so I could move on to my after college career. Their pizza smell alone is enough to put me off food. For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:24 PM  

Sybarite: If only there were some sort of alternative system that would universally cover everyone rather than leave it up businesses and individuals to pay into private insurers. I can't think what we'd call it.


Shingle player?
 
2012-11-16 04:22:40 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter

Except for the fact that people being "helped" by the government is at an all time high. Is that what makes for not only a great country but a great economy? You should be thrilled!


I wonder why so many need to be helped. Really makes me question the infallibility of the Holy Job Creators.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:43 PM  

Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.


And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:52 PM  

WalkingCarpet: HST's Dead Carcass: He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

Jesus, that annoys the ever-loving fark out of me too, glad I'm not the only one.

Now that he's shown himself to be a total douche it's only going to annoy me that much more.


Oy, that's bad enough to incite screen-punching, but he caps it all with the annoying "company slogan *beat* company name *beat* laughter" shtick.

/not amusing
 
2012-11-16 04:22:59 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: u could always try DEADLY NIGHTSHADE (DATURA)


I'm not a.. um... plantologister or whatever, so, I'll just stick to what I know: Tomatoes are bad for me.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:19 PM  

coeyagi: jso2897: This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.

I hear ya. You can't take yourself out of the equation because you were never in the equation.

Oh well... might I suggest....

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 660x544]

Attica! Attica! Attica!


Nah. I took my turn in that barrel back in the sixties. I'm to old for that shiat now.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:39 PM  

WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?


Warren Buffett is still a registered Republican, last I checked.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:45 PM  

bluenovaman: I worked for PJ's for a couple of years. They didn't pay me for shiat, I worked terrible hours and eventually got asked to leave (screwed) for asking my store manager for a letter of reference so I could move on to my after college career. Their pizza smell alone is enough to put me off food. For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.


Why does it seem like the more Christian an organization is, the more dickish they are?

Maybe there are some examples to prove me wrong.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:09 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?


I work at a college. Down the street from my building there is a Papa John's. You would think that the lines would be going out the door with customers from the nearby dorms and apartments. The only person that I see going in there is the mailman.... just to deliver the mail.

Papa John's is shiat. It was shiat a long time BEFORE the neo-con douchebag opened his mouth and showed the world how much he cares about his fellow man's condition.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:17 PM  

coeyagi: Zoophagous: His pizza is bad and he should feel bad.

Even if his pizza was good - which it is not - this is how he wants for a public image? "If my candidate loses an election I am going to raise my prices and be a dick to my employees". That's soem fine PR work there Lou.

Oh and Peyton Manning now has like 30+ Papa Johns franchises. Just one more reason to not like him.

Who America's athletes are voting for:
Michael Vick: Barack Obama
Jack Nicklaus: Mitt Romney
Emmitt Smith: Barack Obama
Alex Rodriguez: Mitt Romney
Victor Cruz: Barack Obama
Luke Scott: Mitt Romney
Magic Johnson: Barack Obama
Bobby Orr: Mitt Romney
Carmelo Anthony: Barack Obama
Bart Starr: Mitt Romney
LeBron James: Barack Obama
Jay Cutler: Mitt Romney
Derek Jeter: Barack Obama
John Elway: Mitt Romney
Patrick Ewing: Barack Obama
Peyton Manning: Mitt Romney
Grant Hill: Barack Obama
Greg Anthony: Mitt Romney
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Hulk Hogan: Mitt Romney
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Austin Rivers: Barack Obama
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Chris Kluwe: Barack Obama
Michael Jordan: Barack Obama
Arian Foster: Candy Crowley
Adam Jones (via commenter Tim): Barack Obama

Link

I hated that dickhead since he started ad-whoring every commercial all those years ago. F*ck him.


Why am I not surprised that splits almost exactly along racial lines?
 
2012-11-16 04:24:23 PM  

coeyagi: Who America's athletes are voting for:

Arian Foster: Candy Crowley


Ha! Nice!
 
2012-11-16 04:24:26 PM  

skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?

not particularly.

Do you get a general feeling of discomfort holding those two beliefs simultaneously?

no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?



To be fair, with you it doesn't require that much effort, and I never really fail. Gotta set your goals correctly. My goal is to get you to realize you farked up. Not get you to admit it.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:31 PM  

bluenovaman: For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.


God helps those who helps themselves.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:02 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: Of course, Papa John's franchises their locations so the majority of people under "Papa" John's employ are mostly the staff necessary to maintain a large, publicly traded company - not delivery drivers. This just got terribly awkward for you.

Sure, if you're a disingenuous shiat who thinks the only number that should only be looked at solely on the corporate level rather than across franchises is average salary.


You want to call people that "Papa" John doesn't actually employ his employees? See, it isn't solely at the corporate level. Papa John's does have company owned stores. The employees there would be "Papa" John's employees in that they are actually employed by the company and their salaries count against the company's bottom line. You understand that Papa John's has 16,500 employees yet there are over 4,000 Papa John's restaurants. Can you do that math or do you see the point?

Am I actually a "disingenuous shiat" or are you just angrily lashing out because you embarrassed yourself?
 
2012-11-16 04:25:04 PM  

tricycleracer: Tradskinzd: tricycleracer: Can we all agree that Jet's Pizza truly sucks?

Yes, yes we can.

If you want a good local place I recommend CD Roma's or Feola's.
But since you're downtown you also get to have Joey Brooklyn's.

I've been hooked on Old Northeast Pizza lately. Cash only is a pain, but it's really good stuff.


Haven't tried them yet, next time I'm in the downtown area I'll give them a shot.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:26 PM  
The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:48 PM  
Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years? I agree it used to be complete garbage, but they re-did their entire recipe a few years ago, and it's pretty damn good these days (based on your location of course). Much better than Papa John's at the very least.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:12 PM  
Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:15 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: How do I boycott a restaurant that I already avoid like the plague?


same, I never order pizza from there cause we live in a rural area and they don't deliver plus it is shiatty anyways, then I double boycotted them when they stood behind the delivery driver that called the cops on a medical pot user now I have to triple boycott them.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:38 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years? I agree it used to be complete garbage, but they re-did their entire recipe a few years ago, and it's pretty damn good these days (based on your location of course). Much better than Papa John's at the very least.


I agree with this.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:36 PM  
And the Right wonders why we can't stand the wealthy. It's not because we're "jealous". Sure, we're jealous the way you are when the hot chick walks by in the Mall with some loser boyfriend, but not jealous in the way they're trying to portray. These people can have that money. it's just hard to get our sympathy when they're worth more than everyone we personally know will make over their lifetimes(Combined), and they are still throwing a fit. Let's put it this way: I live in relative luxury because I am renting a 3,000 square foot house for $1500/month. We need it, with 3 adults, 2 teenagers and a 4 year old in the house, but how does this asshole expect me to feel sorry for him in his $22 million dollar house?

Fark these people.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:38 PM  

DeaH: "More than 17,000 Facebook users plan to eat at the pizza chain on Friday to support the company's founder and CEO, John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back."

Let's see. 17000 people are going to be ordering pizzas being made and delivered by people for whom they support lowered hours, cutbacks, and no health insurance. If I were one of those people ordering that political pizza, I would be afraid to eat it.


That's actually a really good point.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:38 PM  

kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.


No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?
 
2012-11-16 04:27:40 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education

Fine, make education more affordable in this country.


Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:48 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.


Get tested for lycopene intolerance. Tomatoes are a major source of lycopene.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:49 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years?


The new Dominos is great if you like good fake pizza with a lot of preservatives and chemicals thrown in to make it appear to look and taste like good pizza.
 
2012-11-16 04:29:01 PM  

Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.


Ok, so people who don't have money can't go to school, so have to work jobs where they can't earn enough to go to school.
 
2012-11-16 04:29:04 PM  

jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.


I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:04 PM  

give me doughnuts: kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.

No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?


I'm not a fan of Wick's sauce but it's still way above PJ. Believe it or not, I've never had Clifton's and all I ever hear is how good it is. If I wasn't already going to Mellow Mushroom in St. Matthew's tomorrow night, I'd go there.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:05 PM  

whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.


By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?
 
2012-11-16 04:30:08 PM  

Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.


www.lolwut.com
 
2012-11-16 04:30:15 PM  

Semi-Sane: RedPhoenix122: Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education

Fine, make education more affordable in this country.

Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.


Jesus H Titty Farking Christ. Can we get a shrink to Fark and fast?
 
2012-11-16 04:30:22 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.



There's your problem right there. In capitalism, the cost of labour is traded as a commodity, thus it follows the basic rules of supply and demand. The lower the supply, the more it costs, and wages go up.

However, in the world that exists today we are seeing the population go up in size exponentially, and efficiency exploding as menial tasks are converted from human labour to machine labour. The supply of labour is going up, while the demand for labour is going down. This means that wages are and a downward spiral, as more and more people are competing for what little jobs exist. People will continue to accept lower and lower wages until, surprise, average wages no longer pay a bare minimum to survive anymore.

Capitalism is dying. We are witnessing the last throes of its existence. We passed the tipping point in the 70's sometime. The 80's saw an explosion of planned obsolescence, attempting to artificially create new demand for labour, which ultimately did not keep up with the explosion in population and was mitigated by machine production of goods anyway. The 90's saw a very lucky breakthrough with the creation of a brand new way to sell goods, as well as the opening of a gigantic tech sector which saved our bacon... for a bit. Unfortunately most tech jobs whole point of existing is to automate previously man-handled tasks and ultimately ended up creating another gigantic removal of labour demand, thus further depressing wages. The 2000's saw an explosion of credit, because that was the only way left to artificially create demand for labour; give everyone a shiatload of free money for now and toss the payments down the line for another few years when it will be Someone Elses Problem, it will stimulate demand, as people who can't actually afford things begin to buy those things anyway! Well, then the bubble crashed, and now we have to pay for those things. Now we're too busy paying back what we spent and cannot afford to buy new things anymore, thus further depressing the demand for labour.

All the while the supply of labour expands and expands and expands.

One day, labour will be so cheap and plentiful that capitalists will no longer need to pay employees any meaningful wages, just a pittance. Because to a desperate person, a pittance is still better than nothing.

Find a job that offers it, you say. There won't be any jobs that offer it for much longer. There's more labour available than every human on earth can actually consume at this point, and only a horrible plague or war can fix it. Or we can use our brains and transition away from Capitalism before it's too late.


/$10 says we go for the war instead.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:47 PM  
The event is organized by Rebooting America, a conservative group that formed the day after last week's presidential election.

"We're standing up for a business owner that was bold enough to tell investors and the American people that the Affordable Care Act will hurt profits," Justen Charters, the group's president, told POLITICO.

So far, the event hasn't met the buzz of Chick-fil-A Day, the August event organized by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee that 600,000 attendees and resulted in record sales at the chicken chain. But Charters appeared on Fox Business News on Wednesday to promote the event, and Rush Limbaugh mentioned Papa John's on his radio show Thursday.

What an astro-turf roots movement may look like: The org is barely a week old but somehow both Fox Business New and Rush Limbaugh producers have this guy in their rolodex?
 
2012-11-16 04:31:01 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.


Nope, not in the slightest.
 
2012-11-16 04:31:33 PM  

jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?


From Godfather's, perhaps?
 
2012-11-16 04:31:35 PM  
He could probably cover it by firing Peyton Manning.
 
2012-11-16 04:32:29 PM  

Magorn: What an astro-turf roots movement may look like: The org is barely a week old but somehow both Fox Business New and Rush Limbaugh producers have this guy in their rolodex?


Gee, wonder if its the usual suspects funding this?
 
2012-11-16 04:32:49 PM  

jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?


I don't think Papa John's has tables.
 
2012-11-16 04:32:54 PM  
And given that Papa John's relies on franchises, it's other people putting up the money to make it grow. A lot of money. It's not just that it's relying on the work of employees, it's relying on other people's money to grow and take the risk.
 
2012-11-16 04:32:58 PM  

skullkrusher: Am I actually a "disingenuous shiat"


Yes.

skullkrusher: Papa John's does have company owned stores. The employees there would be "Papa" John's employees in that they are actually employed by the company and their salaries count against the company's bottom line.


You've moved on to not knowing how franchises work, apparently. I'm not going to take the time to explain to you how EVERYTHING in the world works, I suggest you start by looking up how franchises deal with common needs like HR and how corporate requirements are levied on said franchises in exchange for the ability to share common branding.

There's a website called 'google dot com' that can help you out if you have any questions.

skullkrusher: Can you do that math or do you see the point?


I love that you acknowledge that they're mutually exclusive. Yes, I can do math, so your point remains idiotic.
 
2012-11-16 04:33:07 PM  

whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?


No, some place...good.
 
2012-11-16 04:33:22 PM  

Magorn: What an astro-turf roots movement may look like: The org is barely a week old but somehow both Fox Business New and Rush Limbaugh producers have this guy in their rolodex?


Don't underestimate their influence. Look how well they did getting Romney elected!
 
2012-11-16 04:33:41 PM  
I think the takeaway here is that, when given a number of options, a real, successful businessman deliberately chooses the one that has the greatest effect on his customers.
 
2012-11-16 04:33:43 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years?


Usually when I don't like something, I don't buy it again.
 
2012-11-16 04:34:54 PM  

give me doughnuts: kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.

No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?


OMFG Wick's!!! What about Spinellis?
 
2012-11-16 04:35:01 PM  

Semi-Sane: dddddeeeeeeerrrrppppppppp.


Look, you should try taking an economics class. I know you won't PASS, but you could try taking one. FYI though, the ones that they offer on FOX actually count as NEGATIVE classes.
 
2012-11-16 04:35:33 PM  

RedPhoenix122: whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?

No, some place...good.


But is there any "good" pizza owned and operated by the 1%, though, is the question...
 
2012-11-16 04:35:40 PM  

whidbey: USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years?

The new Dominos is great if you like good fake pizza with a lot of preservatives and chemicals thrown in to make it appear to look and taste like good pizza.


When I get the hungries I call the Pizza Pipeline hotline. No one delivers mare taste to your door.

/it's a local thing
//damnit, now I can't get that farking jingle out of my head
 
2012-11-16 04:35:45 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.

Nope, not in the slightest.


I wouldn't think conservatives would find treating your workers poorly as assholish to begin with. It's up to the worker to go find a better jerb.
 
2012-11-16 04:35:56 PM  
Poor guy... His stock is only up 196.35% since Obama took over the White House.
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-16 04:36:19 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.

Nope, not in the slightest.


Yeah, there's no reason that the people who prepare that pizza you enjoy, and who ensure that it arrives at your doorstep piping hot should have access to quality healthcare. People like that are of no importance. They should be grateful for the opportunity to serve a person like you.
 
2012-11-16 04:36:29 PM  

Cup Check: A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."


Bullshiat.

I've done all of those things and they are 100% WORSE than any white collar job I've had since. Hell, I'd work my current well-paying "skilled" job for minimum wage before I'd go back to fast food even if it paid my current salary.
 
2012-11-16 04:36:38 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Doing it right:
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Doing it wrong:
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Is this another thread where it's wrong to mix business and politics by boycotting a business that supports Obama, but it's right to mix business and politics by boycotting a business that opposes Obama?
 
2012-11-16 04:36:43 PM  

whidbey: But is there any "good" pizza owned and operated by the 1%, though, is the question...


Red Baron?
 
2012-11-16 04:36:58 PM  

whidbey: RedPhoenix122: whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?

No, some place...good.

But is there any "good" pizza owned and operated by the 1%, though, is the question...


that Ray guy's gotta be a 1%er. He's famous

/NY joke
 
2012-11-16 04:37:03 PM  

propasaurus: Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.

Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.


That's the guy that founded JIMMY Johns. Also a big Romney supporter.
 
2012-11-16 04:37:18 PM  

Mikey1969: Let's put it this way: I live in relative luxury because I am renting a 3,000 square foot house for $1500/month. We need it, with 3 adults, 2 teenagers and a 4 year old in the house, but how does this asshole expect me to feel sorry for him in his $22 million dollar house?


Well the funny thing is he wants you to fell sorry for him that he has to pass the cost on to the consumer. "Obamacare sucks because it makes me charge you more for pizza." Nowhere in there was it ever possible this was going to cut in to the money he makes.
 
2012-11-16 04:37:18 PM  

whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?


i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-16 04:37:22 PM  

RedPhoenix122: No, some place...good.


I have to admit...

I really, really love Hungry Howie's cajun crusted hawaiian pizza.

/so ashamed
 
2012-11-16 04:38:26 PM  

YoungSwedishBlonde: Semi-Sane: RedPhoenix122: Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education

Fine, make education more affordable in this country.

Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.

Jesus H Titty Farking Christ. Can we get a shrink to Fark and fast?


Why? If they want to double-down on saying "Fark the poor," then by all means we should be responding "Please, proceed." Maybe we can push the popular margin another point or two in the D's favor by 2016.
 
2012-11-16 04:39:03 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.

Nope, not in the slightest.

Yeah, there's no reason that the people who prepare that pizza you enjoy, and who ensure that it arrives at your doorstep piping hot should have access to quality healthcare. People like that are of no importance. They should be grateful for the opportunity to serve a person like you.


My, aren't we a peach? I tip well - even on top of that stupid delivery fee - and I worked my fair share of menial restaurant jobs when I was young. I've been there. I doubt the guy that delivers from my favorite local place is getting health insurance through there, either. Why should I consign myself to lukewarm pizza in twice the time because Papa John is a tool?
 
2012-11-16 04:39:46 PM  

jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?

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BWA HAHAHAHA
 
2012-11-16 04:40:20 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: Cup Check: A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

Bullshiat.

I've done all of those things and they are 100% WORSE than any white collar job I've had since. Hell, I'd work my current well-paying "skilled" job for minimum wage before I'd go back to fast food even if it paid my current salary.


I concur. I work a white collar job, I get more money than I know what to do with, and it's the easiest job I've ever had.

I have a bunch of teabagger coworkers, however, who feel like they are gods gift to creation. They think they are the smartest people on the planet (they aren't. I've done their code reviews. They really aren't). They spend all day goofing off in the office, playing war games on their computers, or standing at the windows all day long doing nothing but complaining about how the union workers at the construction site across the street are just standing around all day doing nothing.

The irony is killing me.
 
2012-11-16 04:40:40 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.

[www.lolwut.com image 533x594]


Link

It is debatable.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:07 PM  

skullkrusher: no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?


Can you stick to trolling one thread a day, reading your idiocy in multiple threads gets so very tiring.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:16 PM  

Nabb1: Philip Francis Queeg: Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.

Nope, not in the slightest.

Yeah, there's no reason that the people who prepare that pizza you enjoy, and who ensure that it arrives at your doorstep piping hot should have access to quality healthcare. People like that are of no importance. They should be grateful for the opportunity to serve a person like you.

My, aren't we a peach? I tip well - even on top of that stupid delivery fee - and I worked my fair share of menial restaurant jobs when I was young. I've been there. I doubt the guy that delivers from my favorite local place is getting health insurance through there, either. Why should I consign myself to lukewarm pizza in twice the time because Papa John is a tool?


I bet your idea of a tip is telling the delivery guy to invest in plastics.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:16 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Freudian_slipknot: Cup Check: A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

Bullshiat.

I've done all of those things and they are 100% WORSE than any white collar job I've had since. Hell, I'd work my current well-paying "skilled" job for minimum wage before I'd go back to fast food even if it paid my current salary.

I concur. I work a white collar job, I get more money than I know what to do with, and it's the easiest job I've ever had.

I have a bunch of teabagger coworkers, however, who feel like they are gods gift to creation. They think they are the smartest people on the planet (they aren't. I've done their code reviews. They really aren't). They spend all day goofing off in the office, playing war games on their computers, or standing at the windows all day long doing nothing but complaining about how the union workers at the construction site across the street are just standing around all day doing nothing.

The irony is killing me.


Are you guys hiring?

Seriously.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:43 PM  
hyundaigenesisblog.com

Haterz gotta hate! Yo
 
2012-11-16 04:41:44 PM  
Too-sweet sauce, tasteless crust, mealy cheese, bad toppings--the success of Papa John's as a pizza franchise has mystified me for years.
 
2012-11-16 04:41:47 PM  
Let me Start a counter movement: if you DO order a Papa John's pizza any time in the near furture, show that douchebag owner that the rest of us have absolutely no problem kicking in an extra $0.15 per pizza so his employees can have decent healthcare. How? Add it to the delivery boy's tip especially if you paid by credit card. That way the employee not management will benefit from the statement you are making, but it will get made as managers start noticing all these odd tip amounts that end in multiples of 15 cents. Seeing tips come in at $3.15 or $4.45 etc will start to send a message

I'd like to call it "We're not total assholes who want to screw over our fellow man for a couple nickles" movement
 
2012-11-16 04:42:03 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: Cup Check: A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

Bullshiat.

I've done all of those things and they are 100% WORSE than any white collar job I've had since. Hell, I'd work my current well-paying "skilled" job for minimum wage before I'd go back to fast food even if it paid my current salary.


Yeah, it ain't called a "cushy" desk job for nothing
 
2012-11-16 04:42:47 PM  

lennavan: Mikey1969: Let's put it this way: I live in relative luxury because I am renting a 3,000 square foot house for $1500/month. We need it, with 3 adults, 2 teenagers and a 4 year old in the house, but how does this asshole expect me to feel sorry for him in his $22 million dollar house?

Well the funny thing is he wants you to fell sorry for him that he has to pass the cost on to the consumer. "Obamacare sucks because it makes me charge you more for pizza." Nowhere in there was it ever possible this was going to cut in to the money he makes.


Of course. When faced with a tough fiscal decision, every good businessman chooses the option that has the greatest effect on his customers.
 
2012-11-16 04:43:05 PM  

Nabb1: Philip Francis Queeg: Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.

Nope, not in the slightest.

Yeah, there's no reason that the people who prepare that pizza you enjoy, and who ensure that it arrives at your doorstep piping hot should have access to quality healthcare. People like that are of no importance. They should be grateful for the opportunity to serve a person like you.

My, aren't we a peach? I tip well - even on top of that stupid delivery fee - and I worked my fair share of menial restaurant jobs when I was young. I've been there. I doubt the guy that delivers from my favorite local place is getting health insurance through there, either. Why should I consign myself to lukewarm pizza in twice the time because Papa John is a tool?


You're telling me that there is no better place to get a pizza in New Orleans besides Papa John's?

/honestly curious where New Orleanians go for pizza
 
2012-11-16 04:43:44 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: Am I actually a "disingenuous shiat"

Yes.

skullkrusher: Papa John's does have company owned stores. The employees there would be "Papa" John's employees in that they are actually employed by the company and their salaries count against the company's bottom line.

You've moved on to not knowing how franchises work, apparently. I'm not going to take the time to explain to you how EVERYTHING in the world works, I suggest you start by looking up how franchises deal with common needs like HR and how corporate requirements are levied on said franchises in exchange for the ability to share common branding.

There's a website called 'google dot com' that can help you out if you have any questions.

skullkrusher: Can you do that math or do you see the point?

I love that you acknowledge that they're mutually exclusive. Yes, I can do math, so your point remains idiotic.


I just want to hear you say that we should count people "Papa" John doesn't employ as his employees. That's all I ask. Is that too much?

The point of my math question was that Papa John's has 16,500 employees and 4,000 locations. So either those restaurants are super efficient and are operated by 4.125 people each and Papa John's has no corporate support staff or anything like that, or you're trying for a really tortured meaning as to what being someone's employee means in order to avoid admitting that you came out with stupid guns blazing. See, a franchise is owned by a company that is entirely separate from the "brand" from which the franchise is licensed. People who work in those franchises are the employees of the owner of the franchise, not the founder and CEO of the brand.
 
2012-11-16 04:44:02 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: Oh look another business is using Obamacare as an excuse to screw over workers and customers.


I'm to bored of this to read the thread. Did someone come in to tell us how this was totally predictable and if the employees didn't like it they could quit and it was his right to do whatever he had to do to keep his profits or somesuch?
 
2012-11-16 04:44:13 PM  

sprawl15: how franchises work


An acquaintance is a PJ franchisee, and she's pretty freaked out by all of this.

Despite being somewhat politically conservative, she's not been sucked in to the reality bubble, so we were able to convince her that in general Mr. Schnatter was full of shiat.

I believe she has less then 50 employees at the moment so the employer mandate won't apply to her directly. But I believe her fear is that if she gets to that size, the hit of subsidizing insurance is going to be pretty big (think adding 20% to payroll), and if corporate won't allow price hikes, she (and her employees are) scrod.

If every restaurant was subject to the mandate, and/or this wasn't a franchised business, prices go up and life goes on. But the mixture of restaurants subject and not subject to the mandate, plus the price-fixing of franchises, could get ugly.
 
2012-11-16 04:44:33 PM  
Someone doesn't know how "Free" merchandise works.
 
2012-11-16 04:44:52 PM  

Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee


The HORROR.
 
2012-11-16 04:44:57 PM  
It occurs to me, if this guy cares this little for his employees, the people that make his money for him, he probably doesn't give a shiat about his customers either. In a just world, he would soon have neither employees nor customers.
 
2012-11-16 04:45:30 PM  

Blue_Blazer: give me doughnuts: kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.

No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?

OMFG Wick's!!! What about Spinellis?


www.stthomasu.ca

I don't look like these guys so I'm not allowed in there ;-)
 
2012-11-16 04:45:41 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.


It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.
 
2012-11-16 04:45:47 PM  
Why do people want free healthcare from a pizza guy instead of a doctor?
 
2012-11-16 04:46:20 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.

It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.


Spit it out, man.
 
2012-11-16 04:46:38 PM  

muck4doo: It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.


Do you understand the concept of a living wage? The idea being that you can provide for yourself completely with your wages. Guess what? Health care makes that in-farking-possible for most Americans. If health insurance isn't provided by employers, the costs are astronomically high for individuals and families. And those "programs in place?" They're pretty flimsy and constantly being threatened to be defunded by Republicans who decry their very existence as rewarding the dregs of society for doing nothing. Single payer health care would be great and would mean this wouldn't be an issue, but that's off the farking table by the same assholes who 1: want to cut all government programs, 2: applaud businessmen like Crappy Pizza Man for exerting their righteous job creator powers, and 3: fail to understand that people can go bankrupt paying for their health care if they aren't part of a plan. And 4: hate Obamacare in every way.

Guess what? There's no winning for employees here as long as you defend assholes like this.
 
2012-11-16 04:46:52 PM  

jst3p: Mrtraveler01: Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.

[www.lolwut.com image 533x594]

Link

It is debatable.


FTA:

It's time to let colleges compete for your business. By limiting the loan money available and requiring full payment, students will have to shop for the best deals, work hard to complete class credits faster, and pick majors that might actually produce well-paying jobs.

While the goal of getting more lower-income Americans enrolled in college is noble and education can be a key to lifting future generations out of poverty, providing more "easy money" from government is obviously not the answer.


There is just one problem with that. Prior to these loans, a lot of people couldn't afford to go to college because colleges weren't lowering prices in order to compete with other schools. That's why these programs were created in the first place, because the free market wasn't doing enough to ensure that everyone had an access to higher education.

Treating the higher education industry like it was the pizza delivery industry is not the answer. Getting rid of these loans will not bring the price down, it'll just leave students out in the cold and unable to get an education.
 
2012-11-16 04:47:06 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: I bet your idea of a tip is telling the delivery guy to invest in plastics.


Like I said, I used to work in food service. I tip at least 20%. But, keep making baseless moronic generalizations.

Mrtraveler01: You're telling me that there is no better place to get a pizza in New Orleans besides Papa John's?

/honestly curious where New Orleanians go for pizza


Better places to go to? Plenty. Delivery options are a bit more limited. Pizza is not this town's strong point. My favorite is Magazine Pizza, but they take about an hour and are kind of far so the pizza is rarely hot when we get it. I get Papa John's in about twenty minutes, which is a big factor when you have a two year old and a four year old who are hungry and want their pizza. That said, I would endorse Magazine Pizza over Papa John's any day of the week.
 
2012-11-16 04:47:16 PM  

whidbey: Dancin_In_Anson: MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.

It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.

Spit it out, man.


Those that this it's the enemy are killing it.
 
2012-11-16 04:48:01 PM  
 
2012-11-16 04:48:13 PM  

Bloody William: whidbey: Dancin_In_Anson: MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.

It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.

Spit it out, man.

Those that this it's the enemy are killing it.


All your bakes...are belong to us?
 
2012-11-16 04:48:19 PM  
John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back.

This is the biggest load of crap. You don't raise prices because expenses go up. If I'm selling a Rusty Kuntz rookie card for five cents, and then I wreck my car, I don't mark up the card to $20,000 to pay for the car. You price your product at a level that you think will maximize profits. You raise prices to what people will pay. That's called business.

Why not raise the prices by $1.00 and give your employees a 401(k)? I mean, if sales don't drop, that is. Why not raise prices $2.00 and keep the extra money? Because it doesn't work like that and you know it. Ass.
 
2012-11-16 04:49:12 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee

The HORROR.


Hey, some people consider that part of the tip and reduce it. Personally, I think it's silly that a business that is built around delivery would add a delivery fee.
 
2012-11-16 04:49:29 PM  

Mrtraveler01: jst3p: Mrtraveler01: Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.

[www.lolwut.com image 533x594]

Link

It is debatable.

FTA:

It's time to let colleges compete for your business. By limiting the loan money available and requiring full payment, students will have to shop for the best deals, work hard to complete class credits faster, and pick majors that might actually produce well-paying jobs.

While the goal of getting more lower-income Americans enrolled in college is noble and education can be a key to lifting future generations out of poverty, providing more "easy money" from government is obviously not the answer.

There is just one problem with that. Prior to these loans, a lot of people couldn't afford to go to college because colleges weren't lowering prices in order to compete with other schools. That's why these programs were created in the first place, because the free market wasn't doing enough to ensure that everyone had an access to higher education.

Treating the higher education industry like it was the pizza delivery industry is not the answer. Getting rid of these loans will not bring the price down, it'll just leave students out in the cold and unable to get an education.


I am not in favor of ending student loans, but I think that there is merit in the idea that it is helping to inflate the costs of college. I think it is more accurate to say that these loans increase the costs but still make college more attainable for many people. Then again I havent studied it in depth.
 
2012-11-16 04:49:46 PM  
I might be confused...Papa John's is raising prices 11 to 14 cents to cover costs and people are going to go eat there and pay more to stick to Obamacare?

Does that help the situation, not hurt it?

And TFA said something about the right sticking it to the left by trying to hurt business profits, but yet they willing pay more to keep the profits of the business and the owner laughs all the way to the bank all while hoping people will get laid off so they don't have insurance?


ffs...I have no idea what is going on anymore in this country...I feel like I'm on crazy pills. Does everybody hate everybody? Is that the thing?
 
2012-11-16 04:49:49 PM  
Papa John Schnatter of Papa Johns says Obamacare would cause him to raise prices or lay off workers. In January he bought 3 condos for $23 million. According to Glassdoor's average hourly income for drivers, the average Papa John's delivery person working 40 hours a week needs to work nearly 1,500 years to afford that house.

In his defense, healthcare that would keep someone alive for 1,500 years must be very expensive.
 
2012-11-16 04:49:58 PM  

NateGrey: skullkrusher: no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?

Can you stick to trolling one thread a day, reading your idiocy in multiple threads gets so very tiring.


/vote NateGrey
 
2012-11-16 04:50:26 PM  

Nabb1: Better places to go to? Plenty. Delivery options are a bit more limited. Pizza is not this town's strong point. My favorite is Magazine Pizza, but they take about an hour and are kind of far so the pizza is rarely hot when we get it. I get Papa John's in about twenty minutes, which is a big factor when you have a two year old and a four year old who are hungry and want their pizza. That said, I would endorse Magazine Pizza over Papa John's any day of the week.


Looks pretty tasty.

But you're right, unless you're in the CBD, it's probably not an option.
 
2012-11-16 04:50:38 PM  

whidbey: Bloody William: whidbey: Dancin_In_Anson: MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.

It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.

Spit it out, man.

Those that this it's the enemy are killing it.

All your bakes...are belong to us?


Papa John's is cutting employees' hours from 40 to not pay for health care. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
 
2012-11-16 04:50:47 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee

The HORROR.

Hey, some people consider that part of the tip and reduce it. Personally, I think it's silly that a business that is built around delivery would add a delivery fee.


And just think, you wouldn't have to pay that delivery fee if you got up off your ass and picked up the pizza yourself.
 
2012-11-16 04:51:16 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.

No.

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i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 04:51:39 PM  

Bloody William: muck4doo: It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

Do you understand the concept of a living wage? The idea being that you can provide for yourself completely with your wages. Guess what? Health care makes that in-farking-possible for most Americans. If health insurance isn't provided by employers, the costs are astronomically high for individuals and families. And those "programs in place?" They're pretty flimsy and constantly being threatened to be defunded by Republicans who decry their very existence as rewarding the dregs of society for doing nothing. Single payer health care would be great and would mean this wouldn't be an issue, but that's off the farking table by the same assholes who 1: want to cut all government programs, 2: applaud businessmen like Crappy Pizza Man for exerting their righteous job creator powers, and 3: fail to understand that people can go bankrupt paying for their health care if they aren't part of a plan. And 4: hate Obamacare in every way.

Guess what? There's no winning for employees here as long as you defend assholes like this.


Seriously, I would rather see single payer than this clusterfark.
 
2012-11-16 04:51:55 PM  
Papa Johns: Pizza = According to Jim: Comedy
 
2012-11-16 04:51:57 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee

The HORROR.

Hey, some people consider that part of the tip and reduce it. Personally, I think it's silly that a business that is built around delivery would add a delivery fee.

And just think, you wouldn't have to pay that delivery fee if you got up off your ass and picked up the pizza yourself.


Shut up, I am raiding.

LEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKINS!
 
2012-11-16 04:51:59 PM  

NYCNative: Papa John Schnatter of Papa Johns says Obamacare would cause him to raise prices or lay off workers. In January he bought 3 condos for $23 million. According to Glassdoor's average hourly income for drivers, the average Papa John's delivery person working 40 hours a week needs to work nearly 1,500 years to afford that house.


Who are you to question what your betters do? Shut up and watch the clock.
 
2012-11-16 04:52:37 PM  

skullkrusher: The point of my math question was that Papa John's has 16,500 employees and 4,000 locations.


No, I got that. I then called it a stupid point because it is a stupid point. Let me know when you've caught up to that point.

Gaseous Anomaly: If every restaurant was subject to the mandate, and/or this wasn't a franchised business, prices go up and life goes on. But the mixture of restaurants subject and not subject to the mandate, plus the price-fixing of franchises, could get ugly.


Yup. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, especially if corporate decides to start strongarming to score some political points.
 
2012-11-16 04:52:38 PM  
The guy gives money to the University of Louisville.... isn't that enough reason not to eat there?

/Pizza tonight!
//local pizza place, NOT Papa John's
///aren't slashies supposed to come in threes?
 
2012-11-16 04:52:49 PM  
John Schnatter deserves to have more than one mansion, those poors who work for him don't deserve to have health insurance.

Got it yet, libs??
 
2012-11-16 04:53:01 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee

The HORROR.

Hey, some people consider that part of the tip and reduce it. Personally, I think it's silly that a business that is built around delivery would add a delivery fee.

And just think, you wouldn't have to pay that delivery fee if you got up off your ass and picked up the pizza yourself.


If the founder being a narcissist isn't going to stop me from ordering, what makes you think a measly extra couple of bucks will?
 
2012-11-16 04:53:04 PM  

jst3p: I am not in favor of ending student loans, but I think that there is merit in the idea that it is helping to inflate the costs of college. I think it is more accurate to say that these loans increase the costs but still make college more attainable for many people. Then again I havent studied it in depth


It's a valid point. But these same people fail to offer a solution outside of "get rid of the loans and let the free market do the work" which is a horrible, horrible, idea because it won't work and we'll be back to where we were where only people who have the money can go to school leaving many out in the cold. 

Maybe I'm wrong and they do have alternative and I would be interested to hear it.
 
2012-11-16 04:53:27 PM  
Is there anyway this farking subhuman piece of shiat can go back riot without his employees losing their jobs? Because, if so, I'd like that to happen. fark him, his mansion and his 22-car garage. You wouldn't be where you are without your employees asshole. So you may only be worth $595 million with Obamacare. I think you'll live. fark you Papa John. I'm glad I stopped eating your pizza. It tastes like shiat anyway when you're out of college and sober.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:04 PM  

jst3p: Mrtraveler01: Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.

[www.lolwut.com image 533x594]

Link

It is debatable.


Supply and demand. It's debatable.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:15 PM  

whidbey: Spit it out, man.


If you think that the US has anything near a competitive capitalist economy, you're kidding yourself. This video is over 30 year old...FF to about the 10 minute mark (actually you should watch all 46 minutes) and insert damn near any regulatory body for ICC. Same song, different verse.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:18 PM  

therealfloydthursby: John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back.

This is the biggest load of crap. You don't raise prices because expenses go up. If I'm selling a Rusty Kuntz rookie card for five cents, and then I wreck my car, I don't mark up the card to $20,000 to pay for the car. You price your product at a level that you think will maximize profits. You raise prices to what people will pay. That's called business.

Why not raise the prices by $1.00 and give your employees a 401(k)? I mean, if sales don't drop, that is. Why not raise prices $2.00 and keep the extra money? Because it doesn't work like that and you know it. Ass.


Pretty much. The shareholders should get on his ass for leaving money on the table. That's just bad business.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:22 PM  

muck4doo: Seriously, I would rather see single payer than this clusterfark.


... wow. I have absolutely no argument. I was not expecting that. Glad we can agree.

Nabb1: Better places to go to? Plenty. Delivery options are a bit more limited. Pizza is not this town's strong point. My favorite is Magazine Pizza, but they take about an hour and are kind of far so the pizza is rarely hot when we get it. I get Papa John's in about twenty minutes, which is a big factor when you have a two year old and a four year old who are hungry and want their pizza. That said, I would endorse Magazine Pizza over Papa John's any day of the week.


If you're not in a city, delivery options tend to suck, but that doesn't mean you should settle for shiatty pizza. There should be a few decent pizza places around you can pick up, and it's so much of a problem you can make your own pizza really easily. Go to your supermarket and get some pizza dough from their deli section, a cheese mix (or make your own mix), and some decent sauce. It's literally five minutes to prep and it's fresh from the oven in an hour. Not New York-style, but a good meal. You can also put any combination of toppings you want on it. And it should cost half as much as a delivery pizza.~
 
2012-11-16 04:54:44 PM  

COMALite J: I alone am best: FunkyBlue: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.

If I had to compare it to other dominos. little caesars, pizza hut ect I would have to say it was the bread. All the bread from the other places sits like a rock in my gut. So I would rank it as follows.

Papa Johns
Pizza Hut
Dominos/Sbarro

Little Caesars

Have you tried Dominos Artisan pizza? The crust is wildly different from their regular pizzas (like a truly hand-tossed crust), and overall they′re actually pretty yummy. The Spinach & Feta is my favorite. I just wish they′d let you add ingredients: adding chicken to that one should be quite good indeed, a nice Florentine-style pizza. A single Artisan pizza serves two people for lunch or one really hungry person for dinner.

The American Legends are also pretty good, but are on the same crusts as their regular pizzas. Speaking of which, they recently replaced their Deep Dish crust with a new Pan crust, and they also offer a gluten-free crust.

In short, Dominos has not stood still. If you′re judging them based on ½ a decade or more ago, give ′em another try. It′s really not the same anymore.


One of the few intelligent comments on this thread. Yes, Dominos has greatly improved.

Other than this, this thread appears to be a uberlib mutual masturbation thread.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:46 PM  
His pizza sucks anyway. It give me butt pee every time.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:51 PM  

Mrtraveler01: jst3p: I am not in favor of ending student loans, but I think that there is merit in the idea that it is helping to inflate the costs of college. I think it is more accurate to say that these loans increase the costs but still make college more attainable for many people. Then again I havent studied it in depth

It's a valid point. But these same people fail to offer a solution outside of "get rid of the loans and let the free market do the work" which is a horrible, horrible, idea because it won't work and we'll be back to where we were where only people who have the money can go to school leaving many out in the cold. 

Maybe I'm wrong and they do have alternative and I would be interested to hear it.


Fully agree, I was just defending the original point. It is a valid one.
 
2012-11-16 04:54:56 PM  
Money is their God...I get that...but damn.

This is why I fail.
 
2012-11-16 04:55:10 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Nabb1: even on top of that stupid delivery fee

The HORROR.

Hey, some people consider that part of the tip and reduce it. Personally, I think it's silly that a business that is built around delivery would add a delivery fee.


Well, at some places part of that fee does go to the driver, the rest goes to shiat like background checks for drivers. Still no excuse to not tip.
 
2012-11-16 04:55:22 PM  

Semi-Sane: Papa John is paying his employees exactly the wage they are worth. Working in a pizza place doesn't require much education or any decent technical skills or abilities. If they want to earn more they should get an education and find a better job, or they could always take a risk and start up their own business.


Well I disagree, they should make less. History has shown their sweat and toil doing common work is the work of slaves and they should all but be treated as such. What has that common work ever done for an economy?

If they want to be paid well they should do something productive like work on Wall Street or get a law degree, that's what makes our economy possible, not these lowlifes that think they can just float through life in a cushy pizza kitchen.
 
2012-11-16 04:55:40 PM  

ShadeeJake: His pizza sucks anyway. It give me butt pee every time.


You know you could just tip the driver with a few extra bucks instead.
 
2012-11-16 04:55:48 PM  

sprawl15: No, I got that. I then called it a stupid point because it is a stupid point. Let me know when you've caught up to that point.


and here I was thinking you called it a stupid point because you're frothing at the mouth trying to find a way to save face but, as usual, you got nothing. Boy is there egg on my face.
 
2012-11-16 04:58:09 PM  

bookman: Other than this, this thread appears to be a uberlib mutual masturbation thread.


Keep crying, shiathead. Papa John's pizza sucks and his rhetoric and treatment of employees rather than actually providing them health care because we don't have a single payer system is goddamn pathetic.
 
2012-11-16 04:59:51 PM  

skullkrusher: Boy is there egg on my face.


I don't know what's worse, that you're consistently wrong in every thread or that you're consistently proud of how many points that you ignored or went over your head.

I mean, you're here pissing your pants with nonsense about how franchisees are totally independent business people to justify your bad math caused by not knowing how tipped wages work. Just man up, say 'oops' and move on. Christ, it's not difficult.
 
2012-11-16 04:59:52 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: whidbey: Spit it out, man.

If you think that the US has anything near a competitive capitalist economy, you're kidding yourself. This video is over 30 year old...FF to about the 10 minute mark (actually you should watch all 46 minutes) and insert damn near any regulatory body for ICC. Same song, different verse.


Ah, Milton Friedman. The Allah to Grover Norquist's Mohammed. fark him, he's the reason our deficit exploded and our economy nearly collapsed in the last 30 years. His school took the prosperity of post-World War II America and turned it into a playground for greedy plutocrats while stripping any opportunity for regular Americans to do well without doing into debt from school or bankruptcy from medical costs.
 
2012-11-16 05:01:09 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: MithrandirBooga: Capitalism is dying.

It's not dying per se. It's being killed by those that this it's the enemy.


It is neither dying nor being killed - it is simply morphing into it's proper role in society - as a social tool, rather than a social system.
free-market capitalism is a great way to make money. It's a really shiatty way to try to govern a society.
Same thing applies to socialism actually. Great social tool - lousy social system.
I realize that this is wasted on those who think their personal political and economic beliefs constitute some Grand Unified Theory of human civilization.
Which is why moderates need to be in charge.
 
2012-11-16 05:01:28 PM  
And yet I'm guessing that he would also fight tooth-and nail against single payer healthcare that would take him, as the employer, out of the equation entirely.

This is not about his business, or even totally about his money. It's about poors having access to healthcare that he doesn't think they deserve.
 
2012-11-16 05:01:34 PM  

Blathering Idjut: propasaurus: Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.

Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.

That's the guy that founded JIMMY Johns. Also a big Romney supporter.


Figures Jimmy James would be a Romney supporter.
 
2012-11-16 05:02:59 PM  

Bloody William: Ah, Milton Friedman. The Allah to Grover Norquist's Mohammed. fark him, he's the reason our deficit exploded and our economy nearly collapsed in the last 30 years


Because there has been a smaller regulatory business environment right?
 
2012-11-16 05:03:36 PM  

jst3p: ShadeeJake: His pizza sucks anyway. It give me butt pee every time.

You know you could just tip the driver with a few extra bucks instead.


I use to drive for Rosati's, You always tip the driver well.
 
2012-11-16 05:03:45 PM  

Bloody William: His school


Was totally ignored.
 
2012-11-16 05:03:54 PM  
Why is everyone going on about their favorite local piza joint. It aint that hard to make yourself people. I make a couple of pizzas each month for the family. Darn tasty if I do say so.
 
2012-11-16 05:03:54 PM  
These businesses complain yet they are part of the problem. They are screaming about how the government should not help anyone and the free market is the solution. Yet the "free market" has failed miserably on their part. The "free market" has squeezed the worker where even working full time they need government assistance like food stamps in order to eat and Medicaid for healthcare. Basically the "free market" is having the government already subsidize their workforce. The "free market" isn't paying people enough to afford health insurance, doesn't want universal coverage, and is now biatching the free market solution originally created by the Heritage Foundation is tantamount to communism.

What is the "free market's" solution then if they are against everything? Diffuculty, it can't be "fark you I got mine" or letting people die and/or go bankrupt when they get sick. The "capitalist" approach would be paying enough money to where the employee can afford basic necessities and healthcare with a full-time job and not need government assistance. The government is just filling the void where the "free market" has failed.  Either all you boot-strappy capitalists step up and fill that void you keep saying you are supposed to fill or STFU.
 
2012-11-16 05:04:00 PM  

skullkrusher: whidbey: RedPhoenix122: whidbey: jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?

From Godfather's, perhaps?

No, some place...good.

But is there any "good" pizza owned and operated by the 1%, though, is the question...

that Ray guy's gotta be a 1%er. He's famous

/NY joke


I get it.

/never been to NY
 
2012-11-16 05:04:23 PM  
There's a relatively new Papa John's in the area that I had contemplated trying just because I had never had their pizza. Then this asshole started opening his big fat farkin' mouth and now his pizza is on the "Wouldn't eat it if free!" list. Fark this whiny little biatch baby and his store #3762!
 
2012-11-16 05:04:30 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: Cup Check: A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

Bullshiat.

I've done all of those things and they are 100% WORSE than any white collar job I've had since. Hell, I'd work my current well-paying "skilled" job for minimum wage before I'd go back to fast food even if it paid my current salary.


I agree with this sentiment, but I wonder if there's a fundamental mentality difference between people on those two career paths. When you worked at your job, you probably cared about it, tried to do it right. Got frustratedfor the same two reasons I did:
1) having to work with loser subhumans who could barely pass a Turing test,
2) Irate customers treating you like those lazy roustabouts.

Now, contrast that with the lazy subhumans who have learned to embrace their dead end life and coast through their meaningless existence with apathy. Not only have they adopted a different outlook on life, but they also strive on the fact that their superiors are more or less the same kind of people they are.

If you took them out of their cozy mcjobs and put them in an office environment where people had actual expectations of them (and reacted accordingly when they neglected to meet those expectations), they'd have the same kind of frustrations you had in the world of minimum wage; only instead of irate customers biting their ear off about silly store policies they're powerless to change, it would be angry coworkers pissed off about their incompetence.

I don't know tough, I've never really been incompetent, so I'm not sure what it actually feels like. All the lifers in the summer jobs I worked were content though. My favorite was the 35 year old assistant night manager at Taco Bell telling me how great Taco Bell was for her, and the career paths it had opened up. Within a few years she hoped to be managing the day shift, which would pay at a minimum $35,000 a year.
 
2012-11-16 05:05:21 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: If you think that the US has anything near a competitive capitalist economy, you're kidding yourself.


Boo-hoo-hoo, Americans have it sooooo bad in their number one economy with clean air and water and an embarrassment of consumer choices.
 
2012-11-16 05:05:28 PM  

propasaurus: Blathering Idjut: propasaurus: Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.

Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.

That's the guy that founded JIMMY Johns. Also a big Romney supporter.

Figures Jimmy James would be a Romney supporter.


Wasn't he the one that threatened to move their HQ to Florida because Illinois wanted to raise its taxes?
 
2012-11-16 05:05:29 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: Boy is there egg on my face.

I don't know what's worse, that you're consistently wrong in every thread or that you're consistently proud of how many points that you ignored or went over your head.

I mean, you're here pissing your pants with nonsense about how franchisees are totally independent business people to justify your bad math caused by not knowing how tipped wages work. Just man up, say 'oops' and move on. Christ, it's not difficult.



independent enough that the people who work for them are employees of the franchise owner, not the brand. You're right, it isn't difficult. Not even a little. You haven't made any points worth considering since your argument is that people who do not work for "Papa" John are still his employees. Why would someone make this tortured reach? Because they made a stupid and insulting comment and don't have the class or nerve to back off - double down, it's the internet idiot way.
 
2012-11-16 05:06:00 PM  
I'm glad I wasn't around to hear all the biatching when the 40 hour work week went into effect. Or child labor laws. Or the first minimum wage.
 
2012-11-16 05:06:15 PM  

Saiga410: Why is everyone going on about their favorite local piza joint. It aint that hard to make yourself people.


Mitt Romney tried for six years to make himself "people". It can be more difficult than it looks.
 
2012-11-16 05:06:26 PM  

muck4doo: Seriously, I would rather see single payer than this clusterfark.


So would we all, but since we don't have that, we have to deal with fools like this proclaiming "O my! I can't afford six condos without cutting my employees' hours, isn't it terrible what I've come to!" and expecting people to be sorry for him instead of them.
 
2012-11-16 05:06:55 PM  
Obamacare went back in time and raped my mother to become my father and then refused to pay child support forcing her into accepting food stamps and medicare to survive so that she would vote Democrat in 2012.
 
2012-11-16 05:07:12 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.


I prefer Papa Boner. Er, i mean...
 
2012-11-16 05:08:27 PM  

mod3072: Obamacare went back in time and raped my mother to become my father and then refused to pay child support forcing her into accepting food stamps and medicare to survive so that she would vote Democrat in 2012.


Was it a legitimate rape?
 
2012-11-16 05:08:28 PM  

theorellior: Dancin_In_Anson: If you think that the US has anything near a competitive capitalist economy, you're kidding yourself.

Boo-hoo-hoo, Americans have it sooooo bad in their number one economy with clean air and water and an embarrassment of consumer choices.


if we didn't adopt these socalizms over the past 100 years instead of being a superpower the with largest GDP we'd be a mega-superpower with an even larger GDP... suck it libs!
 
2012-11-16 05:09:39 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: mod3072: Obamacare went back in time and raped my mother to become my father and then refused to pay child support forcing her into accepting food stamps and medicare to survive so that she would vote Democrat in 2012.

Was it a legitimate rape?


Either way the rape was a gift from god.
 
2012-11-16 05:10:31 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: whidbey: Spit it out, man.

If you think that the US has anything near a competitive capitalist economy, you're kidding yourself. This video is over 30 year old...FF to about the 10 minute mark (actually you should watch all 46 minutes) and insert damn near any regulatory body for ICC. Same song, different verse.


I'm predicting your argument is eventually going to lead to "there would be more business if we simply removed the barrier to doing business!". This is wrong. I will cite two examples of why.

1) The Apple App Store. This has one of the lowest barriers to entry and has created an utterly gigantic community of apps. The problem? The vast majority of the apps make literally no money (80%). The price of apps collapsed as soon as thousands of developers flocked to the system. 9 out of 10 apps now cost 99 cents or less. There's a whole shiatload of people making absolutely nothing. Why? There's an overwhelming excess of labour, and not nearly enough demand to make up for it, despite having unprecedented market access and an extremely low amount of business regulation.

2) Musicians. Ever since the internet and MP3'shiat it big, musicians have been coming out of the woodwork trying to pawn their tunes. But as with the app store, the vast majority of them make no money at all. There's so much free music out there (and I'm not talking about pirated music, I'm talking about bands who give their music away for free simply because they have to) that there's no way the vast majority of the bands can make any money from it at all. Once more, there's far more labour available than there is consumption.


Even with a supposed "not really 100% free market capitalist" system that imposes barriers to entry, there's still enough supply of labour out there to push the price of these products down to nearly 0.

It's going to get much much worse over the next decade, when 3D printers advance to such a point that everyone can just print shiat out at home. More labour demand decimated, with no equivalent increase in consumption demand. Capitalism is farked, with a capital fark.
 
2012-11-16 05:11:34 PM  

lennavan: Mikey1969: Let's put it this way: I live in relative luxury because I am renting a 3,000 square foot house for $1500/month. We need it, with 3 adults, 2 teenagers and a 4 year old in the house, but how does this asshole expect me to feel sorry for him in his $22 million dollar house?

Well the funny thing is he wants you to fell sorry for him that he has to pass the cost on to the consumer. "Obamacare sucks because it makes me charge you more for pizza." Nowhere in there was it ever possible this was going to cut in to the money he makes.


Yeah, I'm really tired of the 'poor millionaire me thing'. Kinda feeling the same way I did when Metallica pulled the Napster bullshiat. Didn't feel sorry then, either.
 
2012-11-16 05:12:47 PM  

skullkrusher: independent enough that the people who work for them are employees of the franchise owner, not the brand.


Which is still irrelevant.

skullkrusher: You haven't made any points worth considering since your argument is that people who do not work for "Papa" John are still his employees.


Really? My point was that 'delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees'. I still am at a loss as to how that confuses you so badly you think a direct org chart line leading or not leading to John is somehow a rebuttal. Here's what you should have posted, so many posts ago:

skullkrusher: I hadn't considered drivers but I don't think it is "gross ignorance" and it is certainly not deliberate.

That's it. Even throw in an 'oops' if you're feeling magnanimous.

Grow the fark up.
 
2012-11-16 05:13:57 PM  

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


Maybe people should focus on planning ahead by getting a good education, instead of working in positions that can be filled by anyone with a minimal education, and expecting coorperate benefits.

Employers are not responsible for how your life has turned out, nor are they responsible for the additional benefits you feel you are entitled to. The benefits they offer are designed to attract qualified help, or lure that help from other entrepeneurs. As an unskilled laborer-you are easily replaceable as minimum wage is the only incentive he need offer and that you found acceptable the day he shook your hand and said you were hired.. You refuse to work unless you get perks? Step aside: next!

That being said, Papa John has done well by society- he probably should still add basic health insurance to the loyal employess of at least two years or more.

/took me over ten minutes to type this
//computer slower than a vintage Wang
 
2012-11-16 05:14:40 PM  
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Don't these pricks ever get tired? I have no sympathy for any of these human jackals. All of them can get f***ed in their stupid asses.
 
2012-11-16 05:15:31 PM  
Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.
He could have handled his "problem" (if he really even has one) internally, and just run his business like the rest of us. Instead, he shot his mouth off for no good business purpose. And after seeing that, if he's ever looking for investment capital, there's no point in his coming to me. This kind of childish, petulant shiat does NOT inspire confidence.
 
2012-11-16 05:16:00 PM  
I'm sorry...but I'd rather help my local pizza place that Papa John's. I have a preference for REAL pizza made with REAL cheese, REAL sauce and REAL dough and not that crud that Domino's and Papa John's call "pizza".
 
2012-11-16 05:17:27 PM  

Granny_Panties: Add them to my new business ban list:

Target
Menards
Walmart
Papa John's



What did Menards do?
 
2012-11-16 05:17:36 PM  

clowncar on fire: Maybe people should focus on planning ahead by getting a good education, instead of working in positions that can be filled by anyone with a minimal education, and expecting coorperate benefits.


Everyone should do that and then nobody will have a low wage job, that's what I call a win/win situation.
 
2012-11-16 05:17:40 PM  

Saiga410: Why is everyone going on about their favorite local piza joint. It aint that hard to make yourself people.


I have made two people. A son and a daughter.


or


Last time I made a person for dinner the authorities showed up and were pissed! Long pork is frowned upon.
 
2012-11-16 05:18:00 PM  
If this dipshiat had silently raised the price of a pizza by $.15 nobody would have noticed. Prices go up by small amounts all the time. Hell, most of the shiat you see on the store shelves has not only gone up in price, but down in size. However, these tantrum throwing tools have to make a big public spectacle of it all. Spoiled brats, all of them.
 
2012-11-16 05:18:04 PM  
You know, when the pizza shows up undercooked and oversugared, then I gotta listen to yet another whiney-ass rich guy moan about how hard his life is, fark him and his sweet gravy.

He better start investing in frozen pizza manufacturers.

Try living one month on the wages you pay your workers. Rent an apartment, buy groceries, get sick and pay for your health care, Johnny.
 
2012-11-16 05:19:01 PM  

clowncar on fire: SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.

Maybe people should focus on planning ahead by getting a good education, instead of working in positions that can be filled by anyone with a minimal education, and expecting coorperate benefits.

Employers are not responsible for how your life has turned out, nor are they responsible for the additional benefits you feel you are entitled to. The benefits they offer are designed to attract qualified help, or lure that help from other entrepeneurs. As an unskilled laborer-you are easily replaceable as minimum wage is the only incentive he need offer and that you found acceptable the day he shook your hand and said you were hired.. You refuse to work unless you get perks? Step aside: next!

That being said, Papa John has done well by society- he probably should still add basic health insurance to the loyal employess of at least two years or more.

/took me over ten minutes to type this
//computer slower than a vintage Wang


Yes, the attitude the human being are replaceable cogs that deserve no more consideration than a piece of cheap machinery really is something we should celebrate and reward rather than condemn.
 
2012-11-16 05:19:02 PM  

jso2897: Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.


This. I don't dislike him for his political leaning, I dislike him for politicizing pizza. Althogh I was done with Papa John's when he stood by his delivery driver causing a CPS investigation because he smelled pot at a customes house.
 
2012-11-16 05:20:00 PM  
I'm sure if the government came along and told you that you had to spend the equivalent of the entire worth of your home in additional taxes in one year, you people wouldn't bat an eye.
 
2012-11-16 05:20:18 PM  

vrax: If this dipshiat had silently raised the price of a pizza by $.15 nobody would have noticed.


Seriously this. And now everybody (Republicans I guess) runs in to the defense of the millionaires bottom line. Amazing.
 
2012-11-16 05:20:35 PM  

serial_crusher: When you worked at your job, you probably cared about it, tried to do it right


Oh hell no I didn't. I tried to do as little as possible and not get caught. Back when I was working min wage crap jobs they were utterly interchangeable and could be replaced the same day if I was ever fired.

And I was never fired, btw. Because god knows the managers never wanted to go through the work of training a replacement.
 
2012-11-16 05:20:47 PM  

onzmadi: Granny_Panties: Add them to my new business ban list:

Target
Menards
Walmart
Papa John's


What did Menards do?


Make a catchy jingle?

Wondering if he's getting mixed up with Meijer. Which is pretty known for doing jacksquat to protect gays from discrimination.
 
2012-11-16 05:20:58 PM  

THX 1138: antidisestablishmentarianism: I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.

I prefer Papa Boner. Er, i mean...


I don't know if I have ever seen him in liter land.
 
2012-11-16 05:22:16 PM  

sprawl15: Which is still irrelevant.


because I say so! *FOOTSTOMP!*

sprawl15: Really? My point was that 'delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees'. I still am at a loss as to how that confuses you so badly you think a direct org chart line leading or not leading to John is somehow a rebuttal. Here's what you should have posted, so many posts ago:


actually you're right - you did make that point. I hadn't considered that irrelevant point since the overwhelming majority of them aren't employed by Papa John's but rather "ABC Food Service, LLC". Not to mention that even if all the locations were owned by Papa John's itself, it probably still wouldn't even make the point true:

$6.16 an hour

sprawl15: Grow the fark up.


my my aren't we angry? You could easily settle your emotions if you stop intentionally making a fool of yourself. Repeatedly.
 
2012-11-16 05:25:45 PM  

Mrtraveler01: onzmadi: Granny_Panties: Add them to my new business ban list:

Target
Menards
Walmart
Papa John's


What did Menards do?

Make a catchy jingle?

Wondering if he's getting mixed up with Meijer. Which is pretty known for doing jacksquat to protect gays from discrimination.


I've heard from people that do business with them that they like to simply not honor contracts. If they owe you money, good luck getting it.
 
2012-11-16 05:25:56 PM  

clowncar on fire: /took me over ten minutes to type this
//computer slower than a vintage Wang


Damn, the cons can't take responsibility for anything, can they?!
 
2012-11-16 05:26:49 PM  
DNRTFA but when I worked for Papa John's International i received a decent health care package that covered Eye Dental and my spouse for about 30 bucks a week. Granted that was ten years ago but it was a decent company to work for.
 
2012-11-16 05:26:50 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years? I agree it used to be complete garbage, but they re-did their entire recipe a few years ago, and it's pretty damn good these days (based on your location of course). Much better than Papa John's at the very least.


i'm not a pizza snob or anything, but i don't really like either (have had both in the last couple months)

course they're miles better than little ceasar's, but if i want some fattening pizza i'd go with Jets

that said, a lot of smaller pizza places will deliver, it's always more expensive but who eats pizza everyday?
 
2012-11-16 05:27:22 PM  
We should take Papa John and the Denny's guy and make them eat their own food.

FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.
 
2012-11-16 05:27:45 PM  

Shaggy_C: if the government came along and told you


does the top of the capital building open and close like a mouth or do the statues of the presidents in DC come to life? Because I'm thinking I could take FDR but Lincoln might be a problem.
 
2012-11-16 05:28:41 PM  

AdamK: course they're miles better than little ceasar's, but if i want some fattening pizza i'd go with Jets


Christ I love Jets. An 8 corner pizza from there is basically crack. Fattening crack.
 
2012-11-16 05:28:54 PM  

kobrakai: DeaH: "More than 17,000 Facebook users plan to eat at the pizza chain on Friday to support the company's founder and CEO, John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back."

Let's see. 17000 people are going to be ordering pizzas being made and delivered by people for whom they support lowered hours, cutbacks, and no health insurance. If I were one of those people ordering that political pizza, I would be afraid to eat it.

That's actually a really good point.


Yep, the sauce is likely to be really special tonight. And I would have to think that there would be a special piquancy in serving a sneezer to someone who thinks you shouldn't have health care.
 
2012-11-16 05:31:28 PM  

skullkrusher: . Not to mention that even if all the locations were owned by Papa John's itself, it probably still wouldn't even make the point true:


So now you're asserting that six is more than seven.

It's pretty fascinating how deep you're willing to dig to avoid being wrong about even the simplest of things.
 
2012-11-16 05:32:05 PM  
This genius might want to reconsider that there are plenty of chain and local pizza joints who will happily take his business.
 
2012-11-16 05:32:36 PM  

jso2897: coeyagi: jso2897: This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.

I hear ya. You can't take yourself out of the equation because you were never in the equation.

Oh well... might I suggest....

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Attica! Attica! Attica!

Nah. I took my turn in that barrel back in the sixties. I'm to old for that shiat now.


I have the same problem.
 
2012-11-16 05:35:15 PM  

Whiskey Pete: We should take Papa John and the Denny's guy and make them eat their own food.

FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.


I'm pretty sure that is a serious violation of the Geneva Conventions.
 
2012-11-16 05:35:54 PM  

Fart_Machine: This genius might want to reconsider that there are plenty of chain and local pizza joints who will happily take his business.


And that a large part of his customer base is pretty OK with Obamacare.
 
2012-11-16 05:37:14 PM  

jst3p: jso2897: Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.

This. I don't dislike him for his political leaning, I dislike him for politicizing pizza. Althogh I was done with Papa John's when he stood by his delivery driver causing a CPS investigation because he smelled pot at a customes house.


Look - to an extent, i sympathize with the guy. whatever the issue, NOBODY likes the government butting in and telling them how to run their business.When I was in business (almost entirely retired, now) I had the government butt in and tell me how to run my business a few times - and I didn't fooking like it. Nobody does.
But the reality is, that in ANY modern, post-industrial Western society, it does. It is a condition of doing business - you suck it up, you deal with it, and you move on.
Throwing a petulant, public hissy-fit like this is childish and unprofessional - and I am always extremely suspicious of mixing politics with your business - especially in a negative way.
This guy would have been much wiser, and more of a grownup, to keep his mouth shut and deal with it.
 
2012-11-16 05:37:26 PM  

Shaggy_C: I'm sure if the government came along and told you that you had to spend the equivalent of the entire worth of your home in additional taxes in one year, you people wouldn't bat an eye.


Since that means I'd probably be making upwards of $30 mil, I think I'd be made in the shade.
 
2012-11-16 05:37:49 PM  

jso2897: Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.
He could have handled his "problem" (if he really even has one) internally, and just run his business like the rest of us. Instead, he shot his mouth off for no good business purpose. And after seeing that, if he's ever looking for investment capital, there's no point in his coming to me. This kind of childish, petulant shiat does NOT inspire confidence.


You must be thinking of the derp-spewing Denny's franchisee.

PJ's CEO did not call a press conference to berate his customers. He was on an investor relations conference call. He was supposed to talk about factors that will impact the company's future earnings. He did so, quite rationally.

- Our costs are going to go up due to Obamacare.

- We are in a good position to absorb the costs of Obamacare.

- We will do what we can to minimize the costs and pass the remainder on to consumers.

- It is likely that some of our franchisees will cut hours to avoid Obamacare.

That's all he said. No rant, no threats. Just what a CEO is required to do for investors.
 
2012-11-16 05:39:18 PM  

Shaggy_C: I'm sure if the government came along and told you that you had to spend the equivalent of the entire worth of your home in additional taxes in one year, you people wouldn't bat an eye.


So matching healthcare premiums is a tax now? Why did a lot of businesses voluntarily undertake this onerous tax before Obamacare then?
 
2012-11-16 05:39:25 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: . Not to mention that even if all the locations were owned by Papa John's itself, it probably still wouldn't even make the point true:

So now you're asserting that six is more than seven.

It's pretty fascinating how deep you're willing to dig to avoid being wrong about even the simplest of things.


sorry, I thought the point wouldn't have been lost on you. My bad for assuming so much from you. See, $6.16 is not that far below $7. Any food establishment I've worked at has a good bit more in house staff than they do delivery drivers plus all the corporate support and that sort of thing... can you figure it out now?

of course, this is moot because the people who work at the franchises aren't actually employed by "Papa" John - it's just another way of looking at the discussion in which you're also likely wrong.

Imagine that?
 
2012-11-16 05:40:20 PM  
How about an ironic tag for the fact that ObamaCare will artificially extend the lives of the victims of the product that he sells as "food"?
 
2012-11-16 05:41:05 PM  
skullkrusher:

In fact, I'm going to do you a favor this thread and explain to you some of the things you're missing

The first thing that you threw out was pretty simple: "wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25." It's absolutely clear that you're simply asserting that an average wage below minimum wage is impossible because the minimum wage is the minimum. I simply pointed out that such an assertion is wrong because tipped employees have a wage below the minimum wage, allowing for an average below the minimum. Basic math.

You took that to mean that I'm throwing out an opinion on the actual average wage of Papa John's employees. I couldn't care less what their average wage is, or how it's distributed among corporate versus franchise, or any of the other horseshiat you threw out in your smokescreen - if you sat down and did the math and it came out to $15 an hour for corporate and $8 an hour for franchises, it wouldn't farking matter. Because the entire point of my post was to show you the flaw in your logic - that you were making an erroneous assumption. You're taking it personally, and trying to prove that the gist of your argument is right - which is, again, for the umpteenth time, totally besides the point I made. It only belies your ignorance and willingness to jump to whatever assumption you need to make yourself feel better.

Feel free to keep bringing up stuff that I don't care about, though, it does make me titter so.
 
2012-11-16 05:42:07 PM  

Whiskey Pete: We should take Papa John and the Denny's guy and make them eat their own food.

FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.


I would gladly eat Denny's food for a week.

i.huffpost.com
 
2012-11-16 05:42:52 PM  

sprawl15: Feel free to keep bringing up stuff that I don't care about, though, it does make me titter so.


Yeah, like this:

skullkrusher: sorry, I thought the point wouldn't have been lost on you. My bad for assuming so much from you. See, $6.16 is not that far below $7. Any food establishment I've worked at has a good bit more in house staff than they do delivery drivers plus all the corporate support and that sort of thing... can you figure it out now?

of course, this is moot because the people who work at the franchises aren't actually employed by "Papa" John - it's just another way of looking at the discussion in which you're also likely wrong.


I explain to you how averages work, then you come back to me having rediscovered it thanks to the internet and declare that I was wrong the whole time.

/titter
 
2012-11-16 05:45:04 PM  

I alone am best: Whiskey Pete: We should take Papa John and the Denny's guy and make them eat their own food.

FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.

I would gladly eat Denny's food for a week.

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Wow even their promotional photos don't look appetizing.
 
2012-11-16 05:46:33 PM  

Mrtraveler01: jst3p: I am not in favor of ending student loans, but I think that there is merit in the idea that it is helping to inflate the costs of college. I think it is more accurate to say that these loans increase the costs but still make college more attainable for many people. Then again I havent studied it in depth

It's a valid point. But these same people fail to offer a solution outside of "get rid of the loans and let the free market do the work" which is a horrible, horrible, idea because it won't work and we'll be back to where we were where only people who have the money can go to school leaving many out in the cold. 

Maybe I'm wrong and they do have alternative and I would be interested to hear it.


What pisses me off is anyone who is old enough to have gone to college in the 70s, 80s, or 90s making these same comments about the free market. You know how much public universities would cost today if we kept them at the same price as during those years (thanks to gov't assistance to the public university)? About 1-3k per year. My alma mater's tuition is $15,000 this year (UC Davis). Add to that the fact that associate professor (associate professors make up 2/3rds of the professors across America) pay has been going down, and administrative pay has been going up. At my alma mater, the second year during our budget crisis (I want to say this was 2009 or 2010), our president's pay went from 150k/yr to 400k/yr.
 
2012-11-16 05:49:55 PM  

sprawl15: The first thing that you threw out was pretty simple: "wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25." It's absolutely clear that you're simply asserting that an average wage below minimum wage is impossible because the minimum wage is the minimum. I simply pointed out that such an assertion is wrong because tipped employees have a wage below the minimum wage, allowing for an average below the minimum. Basic math.


for people employed by "Papa" John - yeah, it's impossible. We can pretend it was a generalized statement that could apply to any place averages are used if it makes you feel like less of an utter and absolute assclown. Man, do I feel told off. Feel better?

sprawl15: You took that to mean that I'm throwing out an opinion on the actual average wage of Papa John's employees. I couldn't care less what their average wage is, or how it's distributed among corporate versus franchise, or any of the other horseshiat you threw out in your smokescreen - if you sat down and did the math and it came out to $15 an hour for corporate and $8 an hour for franchises, it wouldn't farking matter. Because the entire point of my post was to show you the flaw in your logic - that you were making an erroneous assumption. You're taking it personally, and trying to prove that the gist of your argument is right - which is, again, for the umpteenth time, totally besides the point I made. It only belies your ignorance and willingness to jump to whatever assumption you need to make yourself feel better.


hehe, sure man. If pretending that's how it went down makes you feel better. Of course you spent the better part of the discussion arguing how these all delivery drivers are "Papa" John's employees. You got really angry when talking about that too - that was just to explain to me how averages work I suppose. That's all you were trying to do, after all. You don't care about their average wages. I get it now. Thanks for the lesson!

Enjoy your weekend.
 
2012-11-16 05:50:00 PM  

Fart_Machine: I alone am best: Whiskey Pete: We should take Papa John and the Denny's guy and make them eat their own food.

FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.

I would gladly eat Denny's food for a week.

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Wow even their promotional photos don't look appetizing.


Reality:

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-16 05:51:34 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: jso2897: Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.
He could have handled his "problem" (if he really even has one) internally, and just run his business like the rest of us. Instead, he shot his mouth off for no good business purpose. And after seeing that, if he's ever looking for investment capital, there's no point in his coming to me. This kind of childish, petulant shiat does NOT inspire confidence.

You must be thinking of the derp-spewing Denny's franchisee.

PJ's CEO did not call a press conference to berate his customers. He was on an investor relations conference call. He was supposed to talk about factors that will impact the company's future earnings. He did so, quite rationally.

- Our costs are going to go up due to Obamacare.

- We are in a good position to absorb the costs of Obamacare.

- We will do what we can to minimize the costs and pass the remainder on to consumers.

- It is likely that some of our franchisees will cut hours to avoid Obamacare.

That's all he said. No rant, no threats. Just what a CEO is required to do for investors.


Well, it's his business. it's not a matter that I, as a businessman, would have chosen to discuss before the press - whatever the tone of the discussion. Indeed, an increase in the price of a pie of 17 cents is not something I would offer any public explanation of at all - especially not if it related to anything political or controversial. But, again, it's his business - and if there are negative consequences to this, they aren't going to fall on me.
 
2012-11-16 05:51:47 PM  

busy chillin': vrax: If this dipshiat had silently raised the price of a pizza by $.15 nobody would have noticed.

Seriously this. And now everybody (Republicans I guess) runs in to the defense of the millionaires bottom line. Amazing.


All of these. Like I said last night in the Denny's thread, if it's going to impact your bottom line, then pass the cost on to the customers, like businessmen have been doing since business began. That's what the business model is based on.
 
2012-11-16 05:51:49 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, people. If you don't have ONE decent locally-owned place next to you then I hope you're enjoying the view of The Thing approaching.


You know what cracks me up about this argument? If we all bought from only locally owned businesses and made the big businesses go out of business, ObamaCare would be null and void because the locally owned don't have to provide health care. :)
 
2012-11-16 05:54:54 PM  

heavymetal: These businesses complain yet they are part of the problem. They are screaming about how the government should not help anyone and the free market is the solution. Yet the "free market" has failed miserably on their part. The "free market" has squeezed the worker where even working full time they need government assistance like food stamps in order to eat and Medicaid for healthcare. Basically the "free market" is having the government already subsidize their workforce. The "free market" isn't paying people enough to afford health insurance, doesn't want universal coverage, and is now biatching the free market solution originally created by the Heritage Foundation is tantamount to communism.

What is the "free market's" solution then if they are against everything? Diffuculty, it can't be "fark you I got mine" or letting people die and/or go bankrupt when they get sick. The "capitalist" approach would be paying enough money to where the employee can afford basic necessities and healthcare with a full-time job and not need government assistance. The government is just filling the void where the "free market" has failed.  Either all you boot-strappy capitalists step up and fill that void you keep saying you are supposed to fill or STFU.


Heavymetal: i think you're missing the point. In a truly free market letting people die or go bankrupt is inevitable. You imagine that your idea of societal failure is the same as the average capitalist. It isn't. Fark you i got mine is kind of the whole idea.
 
2012-11-16 05:55:47 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: mod3072: Obamacare went back in time and raped my mother to become my father and then refused to pay child support forcing her into accepting food stamps and medicare to survive so that she would vote Democrat in 2012.

Was it a legitimate rape?


It couldn't possibly have been, or her body would have shut it down and I wouldn't be here. I guess mom's just a whore.
 
2012-11-16 05:56:43 PM  
What are we really talking about here. Using http://finder.healthcare.gov and picking Papa Johns home town of Anchorage, Kentucky and a birth date in 1985., basic health coverage for and individual can be found for under 600 a year (less than $50.00 per month) . The employer is only required under the law in 2014 to pay half if I recall, so lets use greater than half and go with $500 per employee per year for single coverage. This is on sales of 1.12 Billion or not even a full percentage point in the cost of sales. The changes in the price of cheese, wheat or meat far out weigh the cost of health care, let alone the actuall costs of these commodities. The recent drop in the price of gas far out weighs any increase in the cost of a pizza. The changes in the costs to heat the pizza oven far outweigh it.........

Why is this A$$$$ hole trying to make an issue about health care which is not even mandated till 2014?
 
2012-11-16 05:58:11 PM  

serial_crusher: DarwiOdrade: Doing it right:
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Doing it wrong:
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Is this another thread where it's wrong to mix business and politics by boycotting a business that supports Obama, but it's right to mix business and politics by boycotting a business that opposes Obama?


No - this is another thread where you make a big straw man and then tear it down making yourself look like an ass
 
2012-11-16 06:00:40 PM  
Poor subby. I would point out your hilarious inability to separate stocks from flows, and numerous other failings, but it's not nice to pick on retards.
 
2012-11-16 06:02:11 PM  

bookman: COMALite J: I alone am best: FunkyBlue: I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.

Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.

If I had to compare it to other dominos. little caesars, pizza hut ect I would have to say it was the bread. All the bread from the other places sits like a rock in my gut. So I would rank it as follows.

Papa Johns
Pizza Hut
Dominos/Sbarro

Little Caesars

Have you tried Dominos Artisan pizza? The crust is wildly different from their regular pizzas (like a truly hand-tossed crust), and overall they′re actually pretty yummy. The Spinach & Feta is my favorite. I just wish they′d let you add ingredients: adding chicken to that one should be quite good indeed, a nice Florentine-style pizza. A single Artisan pizza serves two people for lunch or one really hungry person for dinner.

The American Legends are also pretty good, but are on the same crusts as their regular pizzas. Speaking of which, they recently replaced their Deep Dish crust with a new Pan crust, and they also offer a gluten-free crust.

In short, Dominos has not stood still. If you′re judging them based on ½ a decade or more ago, give ′em another try. It′s really not the same anymore.

One of the few intelligent comments on this thread. Yes, Dominos has greatly improved.

Other than this, this thread appears to be a uberlib mutual masturbation thread.


Thanks. When Domino started, they were the only pizza, or fast food period, nationwide chain that delivered. It didn′t have to be good. You were hungry, stuck at work late at night or didn′t want to cook, or more people showed up to your party than you expected and the hors d′ourves are gone, etc.? They were your only choice. One phone call and ½ hour later, and you had some tolerable hot food.

When others jumped in, first they promised shorter delivery times (‶Fifteen Minutes or Less or It′s Free!") which they had to back off on when it made for unsafe driving, then they tried cute character mascot marketing (‶Avoid the Noid!"), but those weren′t enough. No longer could they market based on delivery alone.

So, they actually had to (gasp!) improve the product, and they did, several times. The improvements in the past couple of years have been quite good, and they′re now one of the better-quality national pizza chains that delivers hot cooked pizza (Papa Murphy′s only does Take-&-Bake). I put them well ahead of Pizza Hut, which in turn is ahead of Mr. Gatti′s, when in turn is well ahead of Papa John′s, which in turn is ahead of Little Cæsar′s (which used to have really good commercials ― too bad they could never make pizza ½ as good as they made pizza commercials!).
 
2012-11-16 06:04:19 PM  
Because it's not his choice, He's being forced.

Now, if he was a 15 year old girl seeking an abortion being forced by the government to do something against her choice like, tell her parents, that would bring thousands out in the streets.

The lefts moral relativism will be its down fall.
 
2012-11-16 06:05:24 PM  
I'm not defending papa John being a dick because I think he can afford to give his employees health care.

But I don't get the complaints about the free pizza give away. Thats part of advertising, all companies do it, there are plenty of good points to be made why he should just shut up about the health care but this isn't one of them. Advertising is a legitimate expense.
 
2012-11-16 06:07:25 PM  
If they could get people to work for free they would do it.
 
2012-11-16 06:08:29 PM  
This thread is hilarious.

Stupid, but hilarious.
 
2012-11-16 06:09:04 PM  

kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.


This list fails without Impellizzeri's.

/also, screw Schnatter
 
2012-11-16 06:11:21 PM  

kyrg: Because it's not his choice, He's being forced.

Now, if he was a 15 year old girl seeking an abortion being forced by the government to do something against her choice like, tell her parents, that would bring thousands out in the streets.

The lefts moral relativism will be its down fall.


Yeah, he was probably super pissed that he was forced to spend the extra money for wheelchair access too. Fark those handycrapped people!
 
2012-11-16 06:11:26 PM  

Warlordtrooper: But I don't get the complaints about the free pizza give away.


Well if Obamacare is to blame for a .14 cent raise in price per pizza, then I would presume that he would say that an free pizza give-away as an advertisement would mean that it represents at least .56 cents of the cost of a pizza then.
 
2012-11-16 06:14:36 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I'm not defending papa John being a dick because I think he can afford to give his employees health care.

But I don't get the complaints about the free pizza give away. Thats part of advertising, all companies do it, there are plenty of good points to be made why he should just shut up about the health care but this isn't one of them. Advertising is a legitimate expense.


If he can afford a $20 million promo, he can afford to offer his employees health Care.
 
2012-11-16 06:15:01 PM  
This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?
 
2012-11-16 06:18:50 PM  

ShadeeJake: His pizza sucks anyway. It give me butt pee every time.


Stolen!

/Funny you am.
 
2012-11-16 06:20:03 PM  

badaboom: This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?


As much as Obama is to have gotten 63 Million plus people to vote for him?
 
2012-11-16 06:22:28 PM  

badaboom: This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?


No he's not a wizard.

But he is a total dick. You got that part right.
 
2012-11-16 06:26:28 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: badaboom: This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?

No he's not a wizard.

But he is a total dick. You got that part right.


So how did he get all these people to work for him? How does he get people to buy his product?
 
2012-11-16 06:34:00 PM  

bulldg4life: Stupid, but hilarious.


Shut up and make more popcorn!
 
2012-11-16 06:39:16 PM  

badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: badaboom: This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?

No he's not a wizard.

But he is a total dick. You got that part right.

So how did he get all these people to work for him? How does he get people to buy his product?


>>>Point

You
 
2012-11-16 06:40:31 PM  

badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: badaboom: This guy is a total dick.

First, he rounded up all these people and forced them to work for his company. Then he found a way to force people to buy his product.

Is he some sort of wizard?

No he's not a wizard.

But he is a total dick. You got that part right.

So how did he get all these people to work for him? How does he get people to buy his product?


Because people sometimes have to take work where they can get it, and most people don't know or care if the owner is a dick.

If you are damn near a billionaire, and you're looking at cutting the hours of your minimum-wage workers to avoid a dime and a half per pie to insure them, you are a dick.

If you think high profits automatically make a person not a dick, then you are a fool.
 
2012-11-16 06:45:10 PM  
This just helps make the case for national health insurance. Meanwhile I find that Papa John really creeps me out on his commercials.
 
2012-11-16 06:51:30 PM  
Forbes did a study and it costs them like 5 cents a pizza to give their employees health care.
they think they can't absorb 5 cents a pie. that's bullshiat. they can. they just don't want to.
 
2012-11-16 06:54:05 PM  
Maybe you could give yourself a paycut, Papa, to help out the many people who work so hard for you, instead of punishing them for something that isn't their fault. No? That's what I thought. Even raising the price of pizza would be reasonable, but hey, if you did that instead then you wouldn't be a huge asshole. The reaction of some to this election is making it clear what petty, vindictive, sore losers they are.
 
2012-11-16 06:56:00 PM  
If I leave the prices the same, but say on the menu that there is a 5 percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare," Metz told The Huffington Post. "Although it may sound terrible that I'm doing this, it's the only alternative. I've got to pass the cost on to the consumer." 

Hey, look. An even bigger dick.
 
2012-11-16 06:57:46 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: kmmontandon: Marcus Aurelius: He should spend some of that money on something useful, like a pair of lips.

Why? He seems perfectly capable of sucking Republican dick just fine without them.

True, that.


GOP dicks are kinda small. No need for lips to stretch out for an elastic hold.
 
2012-11-16 07:00:59 PM  

Hobodeluxe: they think they can't absorb 5 cents a pie. that's bullshiat. they can. they just don't want to.


That's because the political statement is more important. Same with the guy from Applebees and the coal guy. Firing people because of non-existent tax increases or crazy coal regulatory changes...Either they can see in to the future or blaming Obama is a good way for them to cover their operating cost cuts.
 
2012-11-16 07:02:12 PM  

vrax: clowncar on fire: /took me over ten minutes to type this
//computer slower than a vintage Wang

Damn, the cons can't take responsibility for anything, can they?!


Mrtraveler01: Warlordtrooper: I'm not defending papa John being a dick because I think he can afford to give his employees health care.

But I don't get the complaints about the free pizza give away. Thats part of advertising, all companies do it, there are plenty of good points to be made why he should just shut up about the health care but this isn't one of them. Advertising is a legitimate expense.

If he can afford a $20 million promo, he can afford to offer his employees health Care.


He could probably afford to buy his employees a fleet of cars to deliver all that pizza but that is not part of the business model that led to his success, nor was offering a perk like healthcare when offering minimum wages seemed to attract all the labor needed.

I haven't seen this posted yet but anyone know the demographics of the minimum wage worker? Most of the Papa Johns' I've patronized were manned by employees who appeared to be still covered under their parent's insurance (as well as other staples like food and rent, transportation) so having health insurance is not really the issue we want to make it out to be.

For those determined to maintain a minimum wage job as their only means of income- there is a safety net out there in the form of government assistance.
 
2012-11-16 07:03:53 PM  

jso2897: BarkingUnicorn: jso2897: Setting aside the political debate - this was a stupid PR move. A week ago, if you asked me what I thought of this guy, I'd have said he was some guy who was probably smart and hardworking and lucky and more power to him. Now, I think he's a jerk who mixes his business with politics and gives his customers a political sermon with their fooking pizza. Doesn't make me inclined to do business with him.
He could have handled his "problem" (if he really even has one) internally, and just run his business like the rest of us. Instead, he shot his mouth off for no good business purpose. And after seeing that, if he's ever looking for investment capital, there's no point in his coming to me. This kind of childish, petulant shiat does NOT inspire confidence.

You must be thinking of the derp-spewing Denny's franchisee.

PJ's CEO did not call a press conference to berate his customers. He was on an investor relations conference call. He was supposed to talk about factors that will impact the company's future earnings. He did so, quite rationally.

- Our costs are going to go up due to Obamacare.

- We are in a good position to absorb the costs of Obamacare.

- We will do what we can to minimize the costs and pass the remainder on to consumers.

- It is likely that some of our franchisees will cut hours to avoid Obamacare.

That's all he said. No rant, no threats. Just what a CEO is required to do for investors.

Well, it's his business. it's not a matter that I, as a businessman, would have chosen to discuss before the press - whatever the tone of the discussion. Indeed, an increase in the price of a pie of 17 cents is not something I would offer any public explanation of at all - especially not if it related to anything political or controversial. But, again, it's his business - and if there are negative consequences to this, they aren't going to fall on me.


It's not his business alone; it's the shareholders' business. He had a duty to tell shareholders what's going to affect the company's value and what he plans to do about it. And that's all he did.

That Denny's asshat is whole different story.
 
2012-11-16 07:07:02 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: AdolfOliverPanties: Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

propasaurus: Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan

Wiki references him buying back the Camaro he sold to start the business. Papa Johns site says he started it with $1600 out of the back of his Father's bar. So, yeah, bootstrappy. Don't you hate that?

Look, the guy employs a lot of people, and he has given large amounts of money to charity, but he is still a douche for what he is doing NOW. It is a 50/50 self-made man. Yes, he used daddy's shop to set up business, but he went with a business plan and he made it. Good for him.

He's still being a douche about THIS issue.


He's not a self-made man. You think any self-made man can create a well-written franchising contract? You don't think he had to hire a bunch of lawyers to help him create a franchising document? And who vetted that those lawyers are capable of doing what they do? Word of mouth? That state's Bar? You think he can enforce those contracts with, what? a bunch of goons going around busting up franchisees' heads if they don't pay their annual franchise fees? He had a lot of help, not the least of which is a government that help enforce tort laws and contracts.
 
2012-11-16 07:13:25 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being so