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(Politico)   "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour and is doing a $30M "free pizza" promotion is upset that he has to spend $8M to provide his employees with healthcare   (politico.com) divider line 706
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2012-11-16 04:18:21 PM  
"More than 17,000 Facebook users plan to eat at the pizza chain on Friday to support the company's founder and CEO, John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back."

Let's see. 17000 people are going to be ordering pizzas being made and delivered by people for whom they support lowered hours, cutbacks, and no health insurance. If I were one of those people ordering that political pizza, I would be afraid to eat it.
 
2012-11-16 04:18:40 PM  

Semi-Sane: Papa John is paying his employees exactly the wage they are worth. Working in a pizza place doesn't require much education or any decent technical skills or abilities. If they want to earn more they should get an education and find a better job, or they could always take a risk and start up their own business.


Yes, sweetie, that's right, now go ahead and get your drink of water and go to bed, the grownups are talking.
 
2012-11-16 04:18:44 PM  

lennavan: skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?

not particularly.

Do you get a general feeling of discomfort holding those two beliefs simultaneously?


no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?
 
2012-11-16 04:18:54 PM  

coeyagi:
Arian Foster: Candy Crowley


LMFAO
 
2012-11-16 04:19:07 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.


u could always try DEADLY NIGHTSHADE (DATURA)
 
2012-11-16 04:19:10 PM  
I hope he doesn't get a sales boost out of this, still it worked for Chik Fil A when all the conservatives turned out. It's really the height of freedom if you think about it.......eating what you're told to eat my rich guys.
 
2012-11-16 04:19:20 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: How do you people eat that shiat?


With a lot of bread. The more you have, the less you have to eat. :)
 
2012-11-16 04:19:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: whidbey: "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour

I sense a race for the Presidency

Sorry, they already tried running an asshole with a shiatty pizza chain.

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I loved Godfather's when I was a kid. They had awesome video games in the one we went to, especially the table version of Pac-Man. Good times.

And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.
 
2012-11-16 04:20:00 PM  

jso2897: This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.


I hear ya. You can't take yourself out of the equation because you were never in the equation.

Oh well... might I suggest....

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Attica! Attica! Attica!
 
2012-11-16 04:20:59 PM  
How do I boycott a restaurant that I already avoid like the plague?
 
2012-11-16 04:21:03 PM  
Does anybody else find it amusing that Papa Johns new mascot is a guy who gets health insurance covered by his employeer?
 
2012-11-16 04:22:05 PM  
I worked for PJ's for a couple of years. They didn't pay me for shiat, I worked terrible hours and eventually got asked to leave (screwed) for asking my store manager for a letter of reference so I could move on to my after college career. Their pizza smell alone is enough to put me off food. For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:24 PM  

Sybarite: If only there were some sort of alternative system that would universally cover everyone rather than leave it up businesses and individuals to pay into private insurers. I can't think what we'd call it.


Shingle player?
 
2012-11-16 04:22:40 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter

Except for the fact that people being "helped" by the government is at an all time high. Is that what makes for not only a great country but a great economy? You should be thrilled!


I wonder why so many need to be helped. Really makes me question the infallibility of the Holy Job Creators.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:43 PM  

Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.


And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.
 
2012-11-16 04:22:52 PM  

WalkingCarpet: HST's Dead Carcass: He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

Jesus, that annoys the ever-loving fark out of me too, glad I'm not the only one.

Now that he's shown himself to be a total douche it's only going to annoy me that much more.


Oy, that's bad enough to incite screen-punching, but he caps it all with the annoying "company slogan *beat* company name *beat* laughter" shtick.

/not amusing
 
2012-11-16 04:22:59 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: u could always try DEADLY NIGHTSHADE (DATURA)


I'm not a.. um... plantologister or whatever, so, I'll just stick to what I know: Tomatoes are bad for me.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:19 PM  

coeyagi: jso2897: This makes me feel left out. I can never boycott any of these a-hole RW "businessmen" who shoot their mouths off publicly - because none of them ever seem to make or sell anything i would touch with a ten-foot pole to begin with.
Papa John's? Walrus smegma on cardboard.
Cick-fil-A? Salty, greasy, rancid hillbilly chow.
Walmart? The outer dungeon of Hell.
Fox News? Unlistenable.

It's kind of frustrating.

I hear ya. You can't take yourself out of the equation because you were never in the equation.

Oh well... might I suggest....

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 660x544]

Attica! Attica! Attica!


Nah. I took my turn in that barrel back in the sixties. I'm to old for that shiat now.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:39 PM  

WalkingCarpet: Are there any wealthy Republicans out there that aren't stereotypical mustache-twirling villains?


Warren Buffett is still a registered Republican, last I checked.
 
2012-11-16 04:23:45 PM  

bluenovaman: I worked for PJ's for a couple of years. They didn't pay me for shiat, I worked terrible hours and eventually got asked to leave (screwed) for asking my store manager for a letter of reference so I could move on to my after college career. Their pizza smell alone is enough to put me off food. For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.


Why does it seem like the more Christian an organization is, the more dickish they are?

Maybe there are some examples to prove me wrong.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:09 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?


I work at a college. Down the street from my building there is a Papa John's. You would think that the lines would be going out the door with customers from the nearby dorms and apartments. The only person that I see going in there is the mailman.... just to deliver the mail.

Papa John's is shiat. It was shiat a long time BEFORE the neo-con douchebag opened his mouth and showed the world how much he cares about his fellow man's condition.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:17 PM  

coeyagi: Zoophagous: His pizza is bad and he should feel bad.

Even if his pizza was good - which it is not - this is how he wants for a public image? "If my candidate loses an election I am going to raise my prices and be a dick to my employees". That's soem fine PR work there Lou.

Oh and Peyton Manning now has like 30+ Papa Johns franchises. Just one more reason to not like him.

Who America's athletes are voting for:
Michael Vick: Barack Obama
Jack Nicklaus: Mitt Romney
Emmitt Smith: Barack Obama
Alex Rodriguez: Mitt Romney
Victor Cruz: Barack Obama
Luke Scott: Mitt Romney
Magic Johnson: Barack Obama
Bobby Orr: Mitt Romney
Carmelo Anthony: Barack Obama
Bart Starr: Mitt Romney
LeBron James: Barack Obama
Jay Cutler: Mitt Romney
Derek Jeter: Barack Obama
John Elway: Mitt Romney
Patrick Ewing: Barack Obama
Peyton Manning: Mitt Romney
Grant Hill: Barack Obama
Greg Anthony: Mitt Romney
Kyrie Irving: Barack Obama
Hulk Hogan: Mitt Romney
John Wall: Barack Obama
Todd Helton: Mitt Romney
Austin Rivers: Barack Obama
Nick Mangold: Mitt Romney
Harrison Barnes: Barack Obama
Mike Eruzione: Mitt Romney
Chris Kluwe: Barack Obama
Michael Jordan: Barack Obama
Arian Foster: Candy Crowley
Adam Jones (via commenter Tim): Barack Obama

Link

I hated that dickhead since he started ad-whoring every commercial all those years ago. F*ck him.


Why am I not surprised that splits almost exactly along racial lines?
 
2012-11-16 04:24:23 PM  

coeyagi: Who America's athletes are voting for:

Arian Foster: Candy Crowley


Ha! Nice!
 
2012-11-16 04:24:26 PM  

skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?

not particularly.

Do you get a general feeling of discomfort holding those two beliefs simultaneously?

no, not really. Do you ever get tired of trying so hard only to fail time and time and time and time again?



To be fair, with you it doesn't require that much effort, and I never really fail. Gotta set your goals correctly. My goal is to get you to realize you farked up. Not get you to admit it.
 
2012-11-16 04:24:31 PM  

bluenovaman: For how "Christian" he claims to be, his organization is a scummy group to work for.


God helps those who helps themselves.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:02 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: Of course, Papa John's franchises their locations so the majority of people under "Papa" John's employ are mostly the staff necessary to maintain a large, publicly traded company - not delivery drivers. This just got terribly awkward for you.

Sure, if you're a disingenuous shiat who thinks the only number that should only be looked at solely on the corporate level rather than across franchises is average salary.


You want to call people that "Papa" John doesn't actually employ his employees? See, it isn't solely at the corporate level. Papa John's does have company owned stores. The employees there would be "Papa" John's employees in that they are actually employed by the company and their salaries count against the company's bottom line. You understand that Papa John's has 16,500 employees yet there are over 4,000 Papa John's restaurants. Can you do that math or do you see the point?

Am I actually a "disingenuous shiat" or are you just angrily lashing out because you embarrassed yourself?
 
2012-11-16 04:25:04 PM  

tricycleracer: Tradskinzd: tricycleracer: Can we all agree that Jet's Pizza truly sucks?

Yes, yes we can.

If you want a good local place I recommend CD Roma's or Feola's.
But since you're downtown you also get to have Joey Brooklyn's.

I've been hooked on Old Northeast Pizza lately. Cash only is a pain, but it's really good stuff.


Haven't tried them yet, next time I'm in the downtown area I'll give them a shot.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:26 PM  
The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:48 PM  
Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years? I agree it used to be complete garbage, but they re-did their entire recipe a few years ago, and it's pretty damn good these days (based on your location of course). Much better than Papa John's at the very least.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:12 PM  
Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:15 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: How do I boycott a restaurant that I already avoid like the plague?


same, I never order pizza from there cause we live in a rural area and they don't deliver plus it is shiatty anyways, then I double boycotted them when they stood behind the delivery driver that called the cops on a medical pot user now I have to triple boycott them.
 
2012-11-16 04:26:38 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years? I agree it used to be complete garbage, but they re-did their entire recipe a few years ago, and it's pretty damn good these days (based on your location of course). Much better than Papa John's at the very least.


I agree with this.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:36 PM  
And the Right wonders why we can't stand the wealthy. It's not because we're "jealous". Sure, we're jealous the way you are when the hot chick walks by in the Mall with some loser boyfriend, but not jealous in the way they're trying to portray. These people can have that money. it's just hard to get our sympathy when they're worth more than everyone we personally know will make over their lifetimes(Combined), and they are still throwing a fit. Let's put it this way: I live in relative luxury because I am renting a 3,000 square foot house for $1500/month. We need it, with 3 adults, 2 teenagers and a 4 year old in the house, but how does this asshole expect me to feel sorry for him in his $22 million dollar house?

Fark these people.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:38 PM  

DeaH: "More than 17,000 Facebook users plan to eat at the pizza chain on Friday to support the company's founder and CEO, John Schnatter, who has said President Barack Obama's health care reform law will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back."

Let's see. 17000 people are going to be ordering pizzas being made and delivered by people for whom they support lowered hours, cutbacks, and no health insurance. If I were one of those people ordering that political pizza, I would be afraid to eat it.


That's actually a really good point.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:38 PM  

kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.


No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?
 
2012-11-16 04:27:40 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education

Fine, make education more affordable in this country.


Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:48 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.


Get tested for lycopene intolerance. Tomatoes are a major source of lycopene.
 
2012-11-16 04:27:49 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Have any of you saying Domino's is worse than Papa Johns tried it in the last three years?


The new Dominos is great if you like good fake pizza with a lot of preservatives and chemicals thrown in to make it appear to look and taste like good pizza.
 
2012-11-16 04:29:01 PM  

Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.


Ok, so people who don't have money can't go to school, so have to work jobs where they can't earn enough to go to school.
 
2012-11-16 04:29:04 PM  

jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.


I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:04 PM  

give me doughnuts: kobrakai: The nice thing is that here in Louisville (he lives in Anchorage, a small city within Louisville Metro) we have so many other GREAT pizza options.

Coals - Amazing pizza made with a coal-fired oven
Pappalino's - Not quite but almost NY pizza with good, local, home-made toppings
Caffe Classico
Cafe LouLou
Mellow Mushroom
New Albanian which serves really good pizza and they make INCREDIBLE BEER
Garage Bar

Screw Schnatter.

No love for Wick's? or Clifton's Pizza?


I'm not a fan of Wick's sauce but it's still way above PJ. Believe it or not, I've never had Clifton's and all I ever hear is how good it is. If I wasn't already going to Mellow Mushroom in St. Matthew's tomorrow night, I'd go there.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:05 PM  

whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.


By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?
 
2012-11-16 04:30:08 PM  

Semi-Sane: Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated.


www.lolwut.com
 
2012-11-16 04:30:15 PM  

Semi-Sane: RedPhoenix122: Semi-Sane: If they want to earn more they should get an education

Fine, make education more affordable in this country.

Education would be more affordable if student aid was eliminated. Unfortunately, Democrats want to keep throwing more money at schools in hopes that prices magically descend.


Jesus H Titty Farking Christ. Can we get a shrink to Fark and fast?
 
2012-11-16 04:30:22 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.



There's your problem right there. In capitalism, the cost of labour is traded as a commodity, thus it follows the basic rules of supply and demand. The lower the supply, the more it costs, and wages go up.

However, in the world that exists today we are seeing the population go up in size exponentially, and efficiency exploding as menial tasks are converted from human labour to machine labour. The supply of labour is going up, while the demand for labour is going down. This means that wages are and a downward spiral, as more and more people are competing for what little jobs exist. People will continue to accept lower and lower wages until, surprise, average wages no longer pay a bare minimum to survive anymore.

Capitalism is dying. We are witnessing the last throes of its existence. We passed the tipping point in the 70's sometime. The 80's saw an explosion of planned obsolescence, attempting to artificially create new demand for labour, which ultimately did not keep up with the explosion in population and was mitigated by machine production of goods anyway. The 90's saw a very lucky breakthrough with the creation of a brand new way to sell goods, as well as the opening of a gigantic tech sector which saved our bacon... for a bit. Unfortunately most tech jobs whole point of existing is to automate previously man-handled tasks and ultimately ended up creating another gigantic removal of labour demand, thus further depressing wages. The 2000's saw an explosion of credit, because that was the only way left to artificially create demand for labour; give everyone a shiatload of free money for now and toss the payments down the line for another few years when it will be Someone Elses Problem, it will stimulate demand, as people who can't actually afford things begin to buy those things anyway! Well, then the bubble crashed, and now we have to pay for those things. Now we're too busy paying back what we spent and cannot afford to buy new things anymore, thus further depressing the demand for labour.

All the while the supply of labour expands and expands and expands.

One day, labour will be so cheap and plentiful that capitalists will no longer need to pay employees any meaningful wages, just a pittance. Because to a desperate person, a pittance is still better than nothing.

Find a job that offers it, you say. There won't be any jobs that offer it for much longer. There's more labour available than every human on earth can actually consume at this point, and only a horrible plague or war can fix it. Or we can use our brains and transition away from Capitalism before it's too late.


/$10 says we go for the war instead.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:47 PM  
The event is organized by Rebooting America, a conservative group that formed the day after last week's presidential election.

"We're standing up for a business owner that was bold enough to tell investors and the American people that the Affordable Care Act will hurt profits," Justen Charters, the group's president, told POLITICO.

So far, the event hasn't met the buzz of Chick-fil-A Day, the August event organized by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee that 600,000 attendees and resulted in record sales at the chicken chain. But Charters appeared on Fox Business News on Wednesday to promote the event, and Rush Limbaugh mentioned Papa John's on his radio show Thursday.



What an astro-turf roots movement may look like: The org is barely a week old but somehow both Fox Business New and Rush Limbaugh producers have this guy in their rolodex?
 
2012-11-16 04:31:01 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: And sure, I prefer some of our locally-owned places to Papa John's, but they are the closest place to my house and the pizza always arrives piping hot and they are light years better than any of the other major chain delivery places.

And I take it the fact that now you know what an incredible asshole "Papa" John is, it's not going to affect whether you continue patronizing their business or not. Just a guess.


Nope, not in the slightest.
 
2012-11-16 04:31:33 PM  

jst3p: whidbey: jst3p: Some day these job creators will learn to keep their mouths shut, I hope the backlash against them causes great numbers of people to support other businesses.

I propose we have a "Bow to Your 1% Overlords" day at Papa John's.

By getting pizza somewhere else and eating it at PJs?


From Godfather's, perhaps?
 
2012-11-16 04:31:35 PM  
He could probably cover it by firing Peyton Manning.
 
2012-11-16 04:32:29 PM  

Magorn: What an astro-turf roots movement may look like: The org is barely a week old but somehow both Fox Business New and Rush Limbaugh producers have this guy in their rolodex?


Gee, wonder if its the usual suspects funding this?
 
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