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(Politico)   "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour and is doing a $30M "free pizza" promotion is upset that he has to spend $8M to provide his employees with healthcare   (politico.com) divider line 706
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2012-11-16 03:27:53 PM  

WalkingCarpet: muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.

Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.


For subjects other than basic healthcare, I agree with that sentiment. Want your own house/apartment? Feed a family of 4 on a single income? Get a farking real job, or don't do those things.

But healthcare? Yeah, we should provide that to everybody just like we do with police and fire services.
 
2012-11-16 03:35:41 PM  
worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour a

I knew Obamacare was going to hurt small business.
 
2012-11-16 03:36:04 PM  

Kazan: it's official.. Sloth stopped taking his meds after the election.


He was on them before the election?
 
2012-11-16 03:36:59 PM  
Doing it right:
cdn.thedailybeast.com 
Doing it wrong:
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-16 03:37:05 PM  
papa's in the house!!!www.adstorical.com
 
2012-11-16 03:38:38 PM  
Did anyone mention that his pizza is utter garbage?

/dnrtfa
 
2012-11-16 03:38:45 PM  
Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.
 
2012-11-16 03:38:59 PM  

timujin: So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?


I honestly don't know. I ingest a lot of tobacco by smoking it, I'm cool with potatoes and chiles, but if it has a 'toma' in the name, I tend to shy away from it. Better safe than sorry. It's become worse the older I get as I have avoided them for longer. I do recall eating fried green tomatoes as a kid (it's a southern thing, you either eat them or you don't get dinner, etc), and I got ill, and that's where it started. Doctors couldn't figure it out, but somewhere in my brain I made the correlation and began dodging them and didn't get sick anymore.
 
2012-11-16 03:39:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.

img29.imageshack.us

So true



Carter Pewterschmidt? 


\jk
 
2012-11-16 03:39:07 PM  
wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25
 
2012-11-16 03:39:19 PM  
What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!
 
2012-11-16 03:39:29 PM  

notShryke: Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.


Shouldn't you be punching yourself in the face or something?
 
2012-11-16 03:39:48 PM  

Cup Check: Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."


Yes, first it is health benefits, then it is tripling their wages. That seems reasonable, the slope actually is that slippery.

What incentive would a grocery bagger have to improve their employment? Yeah that's tough, I kinda like being a grocery bagger, it's such a great job.

We should definitely keep these jobs paying terrible wages so no one wants them because we don't actually need factory workers, store clerks, grave diggers and so on. The country runs just fine without them.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:03 PM  

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


Strawman, glorious, strawman. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways...

Dude, the issue here is the guy is f*cking loaded, he'll do fine under Obamacare, he's just being a sociopathic asshole. His competition also has to bear this, so to say his business is going to take a hit is f*cking retarded, especially with his national business model. You may have been facetious about Papa John's business understanding, but believe me, I am not being facetious when I say you sure as shiat don't know how to run a business or have one f*cking clue about the economy.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:10 PM  
So the right wing argument in this thread is that because Papa John began from fairly humble beginnings he deserves to treat his employees poorly? Curious what the top tax bracket was and what capital gains taxes were like when Mr John was a middle class guy?

Just another case of I've got mine so f*ck you.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:13 PM  
As has been mentioned and as I say in all these threads:

Because the LAST thing you want is HEALTHY PEOPLE HANDLING YOUR FOOD.
 
2012-11-16 03:40:16 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: His commercials bug me. Ever since last football season, they've been editing them because of the way he does the tagline.

He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

I pointed it out to a buddy and it started bugging the fark out of him, too. What's funny is he can't not do it, so there's always a splice between saying pizza and Papa Johns. Always! They have to cut it because he can't not do it!


That's not even close to their most annoying/offensive commercial
 
2012-11-16 03:40:43 PM  
will cause prices to jump by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, and has said employee hours may be scaled back.

Holy shiat? On my two-pizza-per day habit, that means I might end up paying an extra $102.20 per year! Obama truly is history's greatest monster!
 
2012-11-16 03:41:22 PM  

gilgigamesh: propasaurus: So he didn't actually borrow money from his dad, he just piggy backed on his dad's success. Y'know, the Romney Plan.

Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice. His situation isn't exactly the same as a Romney or a Trump being born on third base.

That said, he's being a douche and screw him and his shiatty pizza.


That's the thing. His hard work was years ago. Now the people that work hard for him are going to get screwed so he can hoard some more money.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:00 PM  
Retards wanted to keep an employer based healthcare model, this is what you get.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:14 PM  
Free pizza -- from Papa Johns?

No thanks, you'd have to pay me.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:21 PM  

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.


You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick wall, though so we're pretty much done here
 
2012-11-16 03:42:50 PM  

Aarontology: scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.

I wonder if this guy knows that chick-fil-a gave in and the dude won't be donating to those anti-gay groups any more.


But this is so completely different. No religion or moral code says it's bad to offer people health insurance for purchase. Remember, he's not actually "giving" them anything, only subsidize their purchase.

Anyone who intentionally supports a business for its practice of screwing over employees is a sociopath, moron or both.
 
2012-11-16 03:42:53 PM  

YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!


well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so
 
2012-11-16 03:43:00 PM  

ShawnDoc:

You aren't sick. If you aren't puking blood, I expect you to punch in at 4:30, and not a minute later. Look at me, I haven't missed a day of work in over 6 years. That's why I'm the manger of this here fast food chain. Just remember, mind over matter. If you don't let yourself think you are sick, you won't be sick.


Kevin, is that you?

/manager I had at a Ponderosa Steak House sounded just like that
//why yes, I AM that old....
 
2012-11-16 03:43:43 PM  
Well, I already don't buy their shiattty pizza, so I'll just keep on doing that.
 
2012-11-16 03:43:51 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.

You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick wall, though so we' ...


Oh, Peter, don't you see?

Hippocratic Oath - adios!

That's what they're getting at bro!

No ER, no Obamacare, no nothing. You made it out of the womb, and they ensured that, but from here on out, good... f*cking... luck.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:13 PM  

notShryke: Here's hoping all the thread's lefties get to run this country soon.


Because your type is leaving? Sounds great.. Need help filling out any forms?
 
2012-11-16 03:44:50 PM  

Cup Check: Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."


Can you imagine what it would be like to live in the kind of hellhole where people who work full time jobs have health insurance? It's bad enough that people like that aren't homeless and starving.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:50 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


he's part of the public
 
2012-11-16 03:45:24 PM  

coeyagi: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.

You don't understand the concept that everyone in society is in it together one way or another. When these people get sick, you will pay for it in increased taxes, whether through Medicare/Medicaid, county hospital taxes, etc. I know that's not difficult to understand. Their healthcare doesn't get paid for by magic. I realize I'm talking to a brick ...


Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.
 
2012-11-16 03:45:29 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Would be relevant if our model wasn't almost entirely based on employment. You're not going to get any arguments out of me about expanding government-provided care.
 
2012-11-16 03:45:29 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.
 
2012-11-16 03:46:09 PM  

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so


Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?
 
2012-11-16 03:46:34 PM  
I'd just close them all and say Fark it. Call me when I can go back to my successful business model.
 
2012-11-16 03:46:35 PM  

brianbankerus: Aarontology: scottydoesntknow: The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."

So the gays are responsible for Obamacare! Of course! It all makes so much sense now.

I wonder if this guy knows that chick-fil-a gave in and the dude won't be donating to those anti-gay groups any more.

But this is so completely different. No religion or moral code says it's bad to offer people health insurance for purchase. Remember, he's not actually "giving" them anything, only subsidize their purchase.

Anyone who intentionally supports a business for its practice of screwing over employees is a sociopath, moron or both.


I don't support his business because of shiatty pizza, Jerry Jones, and Peyton Manning.

/I've been at war with Pappa John's for about 6 years now.
//1st straw was sending me a cold pizza 2 hours after I ordered it.
///2nd was almost getting nailed by one of their drivers when he ran a stop sign
////The driver didn't seem to worried about health insurance driving like that
 
2012-11-16 03:47:02 PM  

coeyagi: Oh, Peter, don't you see?

Hippocratic Oath - adios!

That's what they're getting at bro!

No ER, no Obamacare, no nothing. You made it out of the womb, and they ensured that, but from here on out, good... f*cking... luck.


Yep, people like that never hear a thing because their bootstraps are covering their ears. Government never did a thing for them
 
2012-11-16 03:47:25 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.


There's a bar that just started delivering pizzas here and they are the shiat. $9.00 large 1-topping delivered. The sauce is a little weak, but good and they do not skimp on the cheese. We actually learned to not order extra cheese.

The funniest thing it they're called Paddy's Backdoor Pizza (because they're run out of the back of the bar). Their menu includes an Italian Stallion and a Meat Explosion.

I still cannot bring myself to order a Meat Explosion from Paddy's Backdoor Pizza. Would never be able to say it on the phone without breaking into juvenile snickers.
 
2012-11-16 03:47:27 PM  

JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.


No.

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2012-11-16 03:47:30 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.


Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.
 
2012-11-16 03:47:32 PM  
I stand by whomever said upthread to order from a good local place and screw this guy with a rusty hook. At work we have successfully lobbied the powers that be that on pizza day to order from 1 of 3 local places. We are a smaller company and giving our money to a chain doesn't make sense.
 
2012-11-16 03:48:28 PM  
Business Owners: "OUR BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO SUFFER DUE TO OBAMACARE.

Libtards: "Maybe the Gov can provide insurance instead of you job creators. That way, you will no longer have the burden to provide insurance to your employees.

Business Owners: "YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY COMMUNIST MOUTH"
 
2012-11-16 03:49:12 PM  

InmanRoshi: Next thing you know we'll be living in a shiathole remembling Sweden, rather than the utopian dream of a Calcutta slum with the sick and diseased dying in the gutters.



Because the U.S. has been just like Culcutta to this point.

/That was derptastic, I gotta admit
 
2012-11-16 03:49:16 PM  

lennavan: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Do you also hate that the public demands a minimum wage?


not particularly.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:23 PM  
libraryrenewal.org

The job creators have altered the deal. Pray they do not alter it further.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:25 PM  

I alone am best: AdolfOliverPanties: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

Bootstraps. Had to be bootstraps.

Subby forgot to mention that this guy's pizza is farking terrible.

Compared to all the other fast food pizza, papa johns is awesome.


Sadly, yes. It's the garlic butter.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:43 PM  
I think we're missing the larger point here:

Papa John's Pizza tastes like salted sh*t.
 
2012-11-16 03:49:55 PM  

St_Francis_P: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: What a farking shame! He'll have to match their premiums, such a damned socialist disgrace. This is why we need to repeal socialist Obamacare immediately so we can go back to the way things were, with these employees having to get their healthcare from Medicaid instead!

well, yeah.
The public wants people to have health insurance, the public should provide it - not demand that someone else do so

Most people here would agree. Obamacare is similar to Romneycare and other Republican plans, and so had a chance to pass Congress. There was no way single-payer would have passed.


How many republicans voted for obamacare?
 
2012-11-16 03:50:07 PM  
I'm a little weirded out that I'm really enjoying this lennavan vs. skullkrusher thing that's been happening...

/no popcorn, but I did just crack a beer open
 
2012-11-16 03:50:14 PM  

skullkrusher: wow, somebody better call the Dept of Labor on him. Federal minimum wage is $7.25


You are aware that delivery drivers are paid as tipped employees, right?
 
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