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(Politico)   "Papa" John who is worth $600M, lives in a $7M mansion (with a 22-car garage), pays his employees an average of $7 per hour and is doing a $30M "free pizza" promotion is upset that he has to spend $8M to provide his employees with healthcare   (politico.com) divider line 706
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2012-11-16 12:56:02 PM
Again. Health insurance only applies to employees who work over 30 hours a week and does not take effect until 2014. Also the 30 hour a week measurement can be between 3-12 months of payroll. So anyone who says that they are doing x because of Obamacare at this point is either clueless or willfully misleading.
 
2012-11-16 12:56:40 PM

vernonFL: I want the person making my pizza to have the flu and untreated genital warts.


Well said.
 
2012-11-16 12:58:33 PM
In solidarity with John H. Schnatter, we propose that November, 16th, 2012 be National Papa John's Appreciation Day. The Left thinks we are discouraged; they think they have won. Let's send a clear message this Friday, like we did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, that we are here to stay and that we won't stop fighting."


If these righties keep spiking their blood pressure by feeding all this anger with junk food "protests" they are going to be pretty thankful for Obamacare.
 
2012-11-16 12:58:43 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Nothing makes a shiatty frozen pizza taste better than knowing someone with a bad case of the flu made it and handed it off to a delivery person with untreated scabies!


Dude, I bought a Trader Joe's frozen pizza last night... it was farkin' AWESOME!
 
2012-11-16 01:00:09 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Raharu: Generally No. Few people make it that high up the ladder without being some kind of greedy sociopath.

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So true


Yep, still true.
 
2012-11-16 01:02:44 PM

gilgigamesh: Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice


Dude...you are SO going to smoke a turd in Purgatory for that admission.
 
2012-11-16 01:09:33 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society. And yet these are the same people that biatch because the hospital tax for their county hospital keeps going up year after year and Medicare/Medicaid costs keep going up and up

Not shocking. At all


In his defense, the $8M/year Douchebag John has to pay for health care under Obamacare probably does pale in comparison to what he would have to pay under a single payer system. So until he advocates for a single payer health care system or at least a public option to drive down costs, he can go EABOD. I'm not eating his shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 01:10:34 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: gilgigamesh: Meh, this guy did well, and did it from a lot of hard work and sacrifice

Dude...you are SO going to smoke a turd in Purgatory for that admission.


Purgatory? I wish. I'm a lawyer, which pretty much guarantees I am already on the greased slide to the 666th plane of the Abyss
 
2012-11-16 01:29:27 PM

propasaurus: Aarontology: Dancin_In_Anson: What's this guy's story? Not much in wiki. How did he get his start?

I think he used to be an exec at Dominos or Pizza Hut and bailed to start his own place a few years back.

Didn't he borrow the start up money from his dad? Y'know, the Romney Plan.


I think that was Jimmy Johns.
 
2012-11-16 01:35:09 PM

gilgigamesh: Purgatory? I wish. I'm a lawyer, which pretty much guarantees I am already on the greased slide to the 666th plane of the Abyss


Lawyer?! Holy shiat dude! I thought you were a piano player in a whorehouse...you know respectable.

(BTW...I was talking to another ball washing bastard in your nape of the woods...neck of the wape and when I come down we all go have ersters and beers)
 
2012-11-16 01:37:04 PM
I prefer Papa Murphy over Papa John. That shiat is delicious.
 
2012-11-16 01:42:36 PM
I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages. Why do we want to be served food by businesses that willfully ignore basic hygenic standards and engender a public health hazard?
 
2012-11-16 01:43:58 PM

Linger: I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages. Why do we want to be served food by businesses that willfully ignore basic hygenic standards and engender a public health hazard?


Because, socialism.
 
2012-11-16 01:44:49 PM
It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-16 01:47:57 PM

SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.


You might have a point here if Obamacare only affected pizza delivery franchises. But thats the point of government - to enact policy that will benefit the populace as a whole. I agree that business owners should not have to bear the cost alone of what is a public good. Healthcare should be part of basic infrastructure like roads and bridges. Hopefully we can get to single-payer eventually because a healthy populace makes good sense both for the economy and hygeine.
 
2012-11-16 01:48:13 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.


I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.
 
2012-11-16 01:48:33 PM

JerseyTim: It's unbelievable that you can make $600 million selling shiatty pizza.


Yeah, but it's shiatty pizza that you can order over the internet easily. Plus, the garlic dipping sauce, dude, the garlic dipping sauce.
 
2012-11-16 01:51:28 PM
Nothing wrong with being rich. Being greedy, on the other hand...
 
2012-11-16 01:51:42 PM
He should just raise the prices. The poor people that order there fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50
 
2012-11-16 01:58:00 PM

Linger: I gaurantee every restaurant has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure


You aren't sick. If you aren't puking blood, I expect you to punch in at 4:30, and not a minute later. Look at me, I haven't missed a day of work in over 6 years. That's why I'm the manger of this here fast food chain. Just remember, mind over matter. If you don't let yourself think you are sick, you won't be sick.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:20 PM

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.


Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.
 
2012-11-16 02:11:51 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Being greedy, on the other hand

 
2012-11-16 02:12:49 PM
Go cry more, you athiest libtards.

This is exactly how Jesus said we should live. If you can't stand to watch a man follow in Jesus' footsteps then you can go soak your heads.
 
2012-11-16 02:15:42 PM

Linger: I guarantee every restaurant company has at least one employee working right now that is sick and cannot take time off either due to boss pressure or because of the industries crappy wages.



FTFR (fixed that for reality). I know more than a few people, my boyfriend included, who can't afford to take days off to go to the doctor if they're sick, either because they've already used all their sick days by now, or they don't get sick days at all. In my boyfriend's case, he got the flu at the beginning of the year and used up all his sick days not vomiting death all over his office, but now that he's got a bad bronchial infection, he can't stay home. We were able to get him to a doctor during his lunch break, but he has to keep coming in early, staying late, and hacking his lungs out the whole time. If he decides to say "fark it" and stay home anyway, he loses that day's pay, and while we're not one paycheck away from homeless, we still can't afford for him to do that. At least his office is only open two days next week, so he'll have Wednesday through Sunday to rest up.
 
2012-11-16 02:16:27 PM
His commercials bug me. Ever since last football season, they've been editing them because of the way he does the tagline.

He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!

I pointed it out to a buddy and it started bugging the fark out of him, too. What's funny is he can't not do it, so there's always a splice between saying pizza and Papa Johns. Always! They have to cut it because he can't not do it!

And, boohoo, he has to actually offer his employees something besides shiatty wages. Truth is I've only eaten Papa Johns once, and it made me sick. I'm allergic to tomatoes, and Papa Johns does use real tomatoes in their sauce for damned sure.
 
2012-11-16 02:19:51 PM
I suspect that in the long run, guys like "Papa" and that Denny's douchebag who's telling his customers to tip less are making it easier for the public at large to accept single payer.
 
2012-11-16 02:20:43 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: He says: Better Ingredients *head bob* Better Pizza *head bob* *longer than normal pause* *head bob with a twist* papajohns!


Jesus, that annoys the ever-loving fark out of me too, glad I'm not the only one.

Now that he's shown himself to be a total douche it's only going to annoy me that much more.
 
2012-11-16 02:23:52 PM

muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.


It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society
 
2012-11-16 02:27:15 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes


Good gods man! How do you live?!?!
 
2012-11-16 02:30:50 PM
Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?
 
2012-11-16 02:35:36 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?


The one in my town is OK, but there's much better available. I go for Ledo's pizza given a choice.
 
2012-11-16 02:36:19 PM

Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society


It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.
 
2012-11-16 02:38:51 PM

St_Francis_P: thismomentinblackhistory: Anyone else been personally boycotting them for over at least 10 years on grounds of a terrible product?

The one in my town is OK, but there's much better available. I go for Ledo's pizza given a choice.


I always go to local pizza shops. Actually I just remembered a chain that is worse than PJ: Jet's Pizza. You may as well eat it while sitting on the toilet.
 
2012-11-16 02:39:14 PM

EnviroDude: He should just raise the prices. The poor people that order there fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50


I'm sure that the people who order there would "fully understand why their food will cost an extra $0.50" if they released a statement like, "We want to provide the best quality of healthcare for our employees that we can. We've looked at the numbers and found that we can accomplish this by only raising the price of our pizza $.50. We hope you agree that this minimal increase is worthwhile when it comes to the HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE TOUCHING YOUR FOOD."
 
2012-11-16 02:43:22 PM

muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.


Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.
 
2012-11-16 02:47:52 PM

WalkingCarpet: muck4doo: Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you.

Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

According to your logic, these people should not have health insurance because of where they work. That's incredibly callous imho.


You don't have anything like THIS in Stamford CT?
 
2012-11-16 02:48:06 PM

CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!


Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.
 
2012-11-16 02:49:27 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.


You have my sympathy.
 
2012-11-16 02:59:33 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.


Tomatillo salsa?
 
2012-11-16 03:03:25 PM

WalkingCarpet: Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?


Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter, and these farktards just double down on it and insist we help even fewer people. Never mind there is no proof that not helping people magically gets them jobs when they can't find any. Never mind that the Holy Job Creators haven't created these jobs that everyone is supposed to have. These people are utterly incapable of making such a connection, and you should stop treating them with respect. They don't deserve it.
 
2012-11-16 03:04:44 PM

quickdraw: SlothB77: Papa John doesn't know how to run his pizza business. The government should force Pizza restaurant owners to give their employees health insurance. If they don't, then our government should nationalize the pizza industry. It is for the greater good of ensuring pizza cooks and pizza delivery drivers get health insurance. After all, Obama knows how to run a pizza delivery franchise better than Papa John.

You might have a point here if Obamacare only affected pizza delivery franchises. But thats the point of government - to enact policy that will benefit the populace as a whole. I agree that business owners should not have to bear the cost alone of what is a public good. Healthcare should be part of basic infrastructure like roads and bridges. Hopefully we can get to single-payer eventually because a healthy populace makes good sense both for the economy and hygeine.


well, you're in luck. Obamacare was written in such a way that the Papa John's of this country can't afford health insurance for their employees. Even companies that were providing health care for their employees before Obamacare can't afford Obamacare. And, as desired, so few people will be on employer health plans there will be no choice but single payer. And the consumer always wins when choice is restricted - when their options are a one-size-fits-all plan for the entire country.
 
2012-11-16 03:05:45 PM

timujin: HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.

Tomatillo salsa?


I can do some green chile's, if made without tomatoes, and I can do tomatillo in small doses. If I remember, I can go to GNC and buy enzymes to help digest tomatoes. My 'allergy' is I don't produce whatever enzymes are needed to break them down, so when they get into my intestines, it's the equivalent of food poisoning: projectile vomiting, wicked, wicked runs, cold sweats, shaking, I look like a crackhead needing a fix. Since I mentally associate the taste of tomatoes with these symptoms, as soon as I taste tomatoes, I spit them out. When I take the enzymes, I still don't react favorably to the taste of tomatoes, it's ingrained into my brain that tomatoes are bad for me.
 
2012-11-16 03:08:53 PM

muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: muck4doo: muck4doo: Peter von Nostrand: Employers are pissed that they can't keep passing off their responsibility to their employees to the rest of society.

I've never thought of healthcare being a responsibility of employers to their employees, but rather a perk offered to attract better people to work for them along with wages.

Employers should be responsible for making sure their employees keep a healthy diet too.

It's a perfect right wing circle of derp. Employers don't provide any assistance to their workers, who then depend on government to assist them, raising taxes and allowing the right wing to call those people the leeches of society

It's a perfect left wing circle of derp from another entitled child who thinks everyone else is responsible for taking care of him. Health insurance has always been a perk employers offer, how you think it should be an entitlement backed by the government says a lot about you. Want health insurance? Find a job that offers it. If you insist on making pizzas for dirt cheap, and no health insurance, well, that's on you. There are other pizza places that do offer benefits. Go apply at one of them. If Pappa John finds no one wants to make a serious career there for lack of health insurance, he might start offering it. Insisting someone else take care of your every whim and need as an entitlement or right is setting you up for a lot of disappointment in life. We already have programs in place to help those without insurance and, you can try looking them up if you're ever bored.

/No, you're not entitled to me looking them up for you.


And welcome to favorites!

Seriously, give the service industry health benefits, then next we'll give them $20.00 an hour wages. After a while, what incentive are they going to have to improve their employment? A country full of entitled fast food workers, grocery baggers, and store clerks who won't move up because it's "easy."

If you don't have the capacity to move beyond that, move to Canada and be a burden on their economy.
 
2012-11-16 03:09:20 PM

GAT_00: You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter


Except for the fact that people being "helped" by the government is at an all time high. Is that what makes for not only a great country but a great economy? You should be thrilled!
 
2012-11-16 03:11:20 PM

GAT_00: WalkingCarpet: Do you realize that there are lots of people who have no other choice but to take a job making pizzas for dirt cheap?

Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

You're talking to someone who is adamantly against the government helping anyone. People like him are the reason this country is going down the shiatter, and these farktards just double down on it and insist we help even fewer people. Never mind there is no proof that not helping people magically gets them jobs when they can't find any. Never mind that the Holy Job Creators haven't created these jobs that everyone is supposed to have. These people are utterly incapable of making such a connection, and you should stop treating them with respect. They don't deserve it.


No one forces anyone to work anywhere. Slavery ended about 150 years ago. You also aren't talking about government help, you are talking about forcing others to provide a service. Don't work for them if they don't pay or give you what you think you should earn. Isn't there an article here today about how there are pizza places out there that do pay benefits? Go apply there. I also provided a link to the types of places that offer help to those who are un-insured or under-insured. If we have those kind of programs in places here like "Derp Texas", I'm sure you have them in such enlightened places like Tennessee and Connecticut.
 
2012-11-16 03:12:27 PM

GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.


I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.
 
2012-11-16 03:14:19 PM

RedPhoenix122: GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.


I think that's part of the reason they use the term.
 
2012-11-16 03:17:22 PM

RedPhoenix122: GAT_00: Well clearly bootstraps would solve everything. They should buy some.

I find it hilarious that they keep using this term 'bootstrap' when they have no idea about the origin. You literally cannot pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it's physically impossible.


Who uses this term in any serious fashion? I only see it used in FARK threads, sarcastically. I don't believe I recall anyone using it the way people around here say it is, which is not to say that no one ever does. I just don't see it anywhere else.
 
2012-11-16 03:23:44 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: timujin: HST's Dead Carcass: CapeFearCadaver: HST's Dead Carcass: I'm allergic to tomatoes

Good gods man! How do you live?!?!

Tomato-free. No marinara, no salsa, etc.

Tomatillo salsa?

I can do some green chile's, if made without tomatoes, and I can do tomatillo in small doses. If I remember, I can go to GNC and buy enzymes to help digest tomatoes. My 'allergy' is I don't produce whatever enzymes are needed to break them down, so when they get into my intestines, it's the equivalent of food poisoning: projectile vomiting, wicked, wicked runs, cold sweats, shaking, I look like a crackhead needing a fix. Since I mentally associate the taste of tomatoes with these symptoms, as soon as I taste tomatoes, I spit them out. When I take the enzymes, I still don't react favorably to the taste of tomatoes, it's ingrained into my brain that tomatoes are bad for me.


So is it members of the nightshade family in general? Eggplant? Potato? Chiles? Tobacco?

This is completely off-topic, I know, so... um... if only Obamacare could pay for your enzyme treatment, then maybe this wouldn't be a problem for you. There.
 
2012-11-16 03:24:41 PM
He shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare. The government should.
 
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