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2012-11-16 12:52:25 PM
Too bad the author couldn't bother to actually add any insight into the search terms.

Why is iPhone
1) ...5 better
2) ...5 sold out
3) ...5 taking so long

My interpretations:
1) iPhone user's wanting to know if it's worth upgrading their current iPhone.
2) Users wondering why iPhone are back-ordered.
3) Probably because it's back-order, but could be people wondering when the announcement was going to come.

How dare they question their Apple Overlords, but I'm failing to see the smug.

Here's what I get for 'Why is Android'
Better than iOS
Better
Better than Apple

From these results, I conclude that Android users are in doubt of the failing Android platform, therefore Apple has won. Steve Jobs has risen.
 
2012-11-16 01:07:13 PM
I got: "why is iphone so slow" as my second response. Nothing smug about that.
 
2012-11-16 01:09:00 PM
iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of puppets.
 
2012-11-16 01:10:40 PM

probesport: iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of puppets.


Oh great, now I'm going to have *that* going through my head all day... *holds up the horns*
 
2012-11-16 01:10:44 PM
Why is Boy Genius Report
... recycling old stories
... click-whoring
... inane

/ aren't, but probably *would be* the suggestions
// if BGR were relevant at google-scale
 
2012-11-16 01:11:05 PM

probesport: iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of puppets.


0/10
 
2012-11-16 01:12:34 PM
And for that, the author collects a paycheck??

FYI... Why is Fark......Down
 
2012-11-16 01:12:53 PM
I have two auto-fills that made me want to commit suicide:

I was searching for how do I find something or another in Skyrim. I typed in "how do I" and the first auto fill suggestion was "How do I have sex with my sister". Another time, a work friend was looking up something about a light bulb and he typed in "why are there" and the first auto fill was "why are there ants crawling out of my butt". Wtf?
 
2012-11-16 01:13:11 PM
I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has
 
2012-11-16 01:14:05 PM
lets touch phones together and be gay
 
2012-11-16 01:14:42 PM
With "Why is my hair falling out" and "Why is yawning contagious" as two of the most popular searches there, the demographic here may be somewhat unreliable.
 
2012-11-16 01:15:13 PM
Why does anyone

...care
...give a flying fark
...act likes such a basement-dwelling geek
 
2012-11-16 01:15:18 PM
Autofill is fun to use with questions like "Why are {insert race here}" and letting google do its thing
 
2012-11-16 01:15:20 PM
Instead of "Why is", try "Why does" and you'll get a completely different set of autofills.
 
2012-11-16 01:15:43 PM

TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has


yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!
 
2012-11-16 01:17:24 PM

Clent: Here's what I get for 'Why is Android'
Better than iOS
Better
Better than Apple

From these results, I conclude that Android users are in doubt of the failing Android platform, therefore Apple has won. Steve Jobs has risen.



So in your world, it's impossible to see "Why is Android better..." as the question of a customer checking out options? Nah. Couldn't be.
 
2012-11-16 01:18:13 PM

mcwehrle: TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has

yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!


why, yes I would! Thank you kindly
 
2012-11-16 01:20:11 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: lets touch phones together and be gay


Those in the know call that "docking"
 
2012-11-16 01:20:22 PM

Grapple: probesport: iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of puppets.

Oh great, now I'm going to have *that* going through my head all day... *holds up the horns*


Yeah but tell me it wasn't worth it.
 
2012-11-16 01:21:03 PM

TheAlmightyOS: mcwehrle: TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has

yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!

why, yes I would! Thank you kindly


:)
 
2012-11-16 01:21:58 PM
The fourth choice from the top are my thoughts on the article, and the subject matter within: 
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 01:24:52 PM
I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.
 
2012-11-16 01:30:17 PM

xynix: I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.


look into SwiftKey for Android. I thought the same way you did at one point, but now I can type twice as fast as I used to on my BlackJack (hardware keyboard) with my Captivate (touchscreen keyboard)
 
2012-11-16 01:32:24 PM
xynix: "If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens"

It seems everyone has largely given up and are trying to solve the text entry problem with cloud-driven voice conversion.
Which is great and all, except that it completely falls apart for composing anything more than small snippets of text, which is precisely where touch keyboards are such a problem in the first place.
(Not to mention dictation being innately undesirable in many situations.)

Which is to say: goddammitsomuch.

/ though I get more out of apps and a good browser than I do a good keyboard
// it'd still be nice to have a good keyboard
/// asetniop looks promising, but it's a 'tablet' solution at best; not really relevant to phones
//// and even then, likely a 10" tablet solution
 
2012-11-16 01:32:27 PM

TheAlmightyOS: xynix: I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.

look into SwiftKey for Android. I thought the same way you did at one point, but now I can type twice as fast as I used to on my BlackJack (hardware keyboard) with my Captivate (touchscreen keyboard)


How quaint. I love my iPhones audio keyboard.
 
2012-11-16 01:34:38 PM
Those Autofill results are like a Rorschach test. They reveal more about the writer's prejudices than anything else. And each of us could come up with different interpretations for them, too.
 
2012-11-16 01:35:02 PM

mcwehrle: TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has

yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!

cache.ohinternet.com

.

/favorite oblig
 
2012-11-16 01:36:13 PM

Knucklepopper: TheAlmightyOS: xynix: I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.

look into SwiftKey for Android. I thought the same way you did at one point, but now I can type twice as fast as I used to on my BlackJack (hardware keyboard) with my Captivate (touchscreen keyboard)

How quaint. I love my iPhones audio keyboard.


oh, you can speak to SwiftKey as well. But we are not talking about dictation here. The issue was a useable keyboard
 
2012-11-16 01:37:11 PM
Why is Blackberry
...more secure
...failing
...better than iPhone


As I've said before, my Blackberry Torch is probably the best handset I've every used. Excellent build quality, most comfortable to hold, love the raised buttons, cursor and notification LED. Battery and microSD card can be swapped in seconds. No squeaks, rattles or hairline cracks in the case. Excellent reception when out on the datacenter floor which is RF hell. That's why it is better than an iPhone.

And it is most secure because of RIM's central management software, BES. It lets you do some very fine grained policy deployments. There are similar systems out there for Android, but they're not as mature. It also uses some very high grade encryption for communications and for flash drive contents.

If only it ran something other than BB-OS, which IMHO sucks the taint off a dead rhino's ballsack. It is horribly annoying to use, unintuitive, and is my least favorite mobile OS to use. I swear that the only reason RIM is still afloat today is because of all the subsidies they receive from the Canadian government by hiring so many specially abled programmers. That and their crappy app store is why BB is failing.
 
2012-11-16 01:37:46 PM
Blackberry owners may take comfort that, in addition to a legacy market in Canada and quite a few slow-moving government offices elsewhere, the Blackberry continues to sell well in China, India, Indonesia, South Africa, Nigeria--in short, in pretty nearly all the countries where people can't afford an iPhone or don't want one or need one, but where the markets are growing gangbusters.

Like Nokia of Finland, Blackberry of Canada seems to have been outflanked by the Sino-American Apple in its own country at least, but in the other 96% of the world, it may not be doing all that badly. It is still holding onto some market share in the UK also. Breaking into the US retail market is really, really hard. It is ruthless, cutthroat and extremely fast-moving and competitive, and it is somewhat insular and anti-foreign, what with its constant Buy American campaigns to convince you to part with quality and money for goods, services and brands that are less than competitive.

Of course, Android of Googlelandia is holding market share as well.

You don't have to be the most expensive, glossiest or most popular, my Yankee fanboy chums. There's an old maxim that says "Feed the masses, dine with the classes; feed the classes, eat with the masses."

Would you sooner be a Bollywood Star or a Hollywood D-lister? On the one hand, you are world famous right across India (and possibly Canada) and super-rich, living like a Pasha, while on the other you live in a cheap jerry-built bungalow that costs about $2 million and leaks when it rains but are world almost-famous.

The Apple is not a D-lister (despite lacking a certain number of features and partners which most of us want), but it isn't making Bollywood Bucks either on its devices or software. Most cellphones are loss-leaders and the Apple may be the biggest loser--hence profitable but not as much as you might think it should be given everything costing twice as much as the competition.

I saw a graphic (The Economist) based on the recent Eurozone study of where countries are expected to be in 2060. Although Canada and other countries will continue to be behind the US in aggregate wealth (perhaps not in median family income--in fact, some of us are already there), which means I have a sad for Canada, the lion's share of the growth is going to the American superrich and the poor and middle class everywhere else, especially in China, maybe India, plus whoever becomes the new wunderkind when China outsources all of its manufacturing in thirty years time.

The US is declining relatively, growing absolutely, and some countries are likely to maintain their position relative to the US, but many countries will rise relative to all the rich and upper middle countries where growth is slower because the low-hanging fruit has been picked over many times over.

Having tied our dinghy to the US, we in Canada will rise with it, but are unlikely to rise a lot faster unless we shape up or ship out.

But Blackberry would be wise to not even try for top rank in the US market until it has conquored the rest of the world. That's what McCain Foods basically did, with some success. They knew they couldn't compete in the US until they were at least as big as US giants and until they had as much know-how and can-do as they could acquire dealing with world markets.

Bigger and better companies than ours have tried and failed to crack US retail.

But China is a goldmine! And they seem to like us. They really like us! Partly because we are not the US and partly because we are almost the US. They can outflank US corporations that they can not fight on their home territory and they want resources more than they want markets or technology even.
 
2012-11-16 01:37:55 PM

TheAlmightyOS: Knucklepopper: TheAlmightyOS: xynix: I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.

look into SwiftKey for Android. I thought the same way you did at one point, but now I can type twice as fast as I used to on my BlackJack (hardware keyboard) with my Captivate (touchscreen keyboard)

How quaint. I love my iPhones audio keyboard.

oh, you can speak to SwiftKey as well. But we are not talking about dictation here. The issue was a useable keyboard


My poor boss uses a stylus on his Blackberry. It is painful to watch.
 
2012-11-16 01:38:17 PM

shazbotuh: mcwehrle: TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has

yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!
[cache.ohinternet.com image 98x98]

.

/favorite oblig


I like that one!

Come join us over here. There's some extra pillows if you want to prop your feet up.
 
2012-11-16 01:40:13 PM
Why does my cock

...atiel hiss
...atoo hiss
...atiel puff up
...atiel shake I'm Feeling Lucky »

Fun with Google Day
 
2012-11-16 01:41:14 PM

Dinjiin: Why is Blackberry
...more secure
...failing
...better than iPhone

As I've said before, my Blackberry Torch is probably the best handset I've every used. Excellent build quality, most comfortable to hold, love the raised buttons, cursor and notification LED. Battery and microSD card can be swapped in seconds. No squeaks, rattles or hairline cracks in the case. Excellent reception when out on the datacenter floor which is RF hell. That's why it is better than an iPhone.

And it is most secure because of RIM's central management software, BES. It lets you do some very fine grained policy deployments. There are similar systems out there for Android, but they're not as mature. It also uses some very high grade encryption for communications and for flash drive contents.

If only it ran something other than BB-OS, which IMHO sucks the taint off a dead rhino's ballsack. It is horribly annoying to use, unintuitive, and is my least favorite mobile OS to use. I swear that the only reason RIM is still afloat today is because of all the subsidies they receive from the Canadian government by hiring so many specially abled programmers. That and their crappy app store is why BB is failing.


They've failed to innovate. You cannot go this long, in such a fast moving market without putting out something competitive. I LOVED my old BB--loved it. But I moved onto an Iphone simply so I could have a phone that could use some of the really cool innovations and apps that have come out in the last 10 freaking years.

I miss that keyboard. I really do--even now probably being able to type fast on the IPhone

/I wish BB wasn't so shiatty
 
2012-11-16 01:41:40 PM
Fark.com is ....down

LOL
 
2012-11-16 01:43:16 PM
Hmm...

Why are Apple fans
... so loyal
... called sheep
... so ignorant
... so annoying
... so arrogant
... so fanatic
... annoying
... so stupid


Now there's the question the author should've used. Google seems to have quite the opinion on that subject.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:18 PM

ringersol: It seems everyone has largely given up and are trying to solve the text entry problem with cloud-driven voice conversion.
Which is great and all, except that it completely falls apart for composing anything more than small snippets of text, which is precisely where touch keyboards are such a problem in the first place.
(Not to mention dictation being innately undesirable in many situations.)


A lot of my emails are written in airports, right before taking off, right before getting to the gate, and at customer locations. Voice isn't an option.. It's funny though a good friend and colleague of mine saw my BB on Wednesday and said, "Is that a blackberry?? That's embarrassing! Put that thing away." It was in jest of course and said in an Alabama accent.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:23 PM

TimonC346: They've failed to innovate. You cannot go this long, in such a fast moving market without putting out something competitive. I LOVED my old BB--loved it. But I moved onto an Iphone simply so I could have a phone that could use some of the really cool innovations and apps that have come out in the last 10 freaking years.


I'm sure the old school Blackberry's were fine but my first smartphone was the original Blackberry Storm and my sweetest Jesus, that thing was painful. Freezing up, refusing to switch views, powering off on its own, refusing to let me answer calls when it rang. I bashed that farking thing with a rockhammer when I bought a Droid and prayed for RIM to die.
The Droid Incredible was not a bad little phone but the battery sucked. I just recently bought an Iphone 4 and it actually does everything I want it to do.
 
2012-11-16 01:48:08 PM
Why thank you, kindly. This is bound to get interesting.
 
2012-11-16 01:50:19 PM

shazbotuh: Why thank you, kindly. This is bound to get interesting.


mcwehrle: shazbotuh: mcwehrle: TheAlmightyOS: I can already tell this will be a rational and calm discussion about personal preferences

/begun, the flamewar has

yep.

Want some of my popcorn? Freshly popped in the flames of derision!
[cache.ohinternet.com image 98x98]

.

/favorite oblig

I like that one!

Come join us over here. There's some extra pillows if you want to prop your feet up.


/bangs head against keyboard
 
2012-11-16 01:51:08 PM

Knucklepopper: TheAlmightyOS: xynix: I have no delusions as a blackberry USER (not a "fan"). I don't need a device that can play iTunes and Netflix for my business. I don't need any apps. In fact I've never seen an app that I thought I could use for business except for Saleforce which is available for the BB. I need a tool that I can pump out 40-50 emails a day on with zero typos and at 40 words a minute. The best device for that at this time is the Blackberry due to its keyboard. If someone can solve the KB problems on touch screens then it's possible I would go in that direction. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with efficient use of my working time.

look into SwiftKey for Android. I thought the same way you did at one point, but now I can type twice as fast as I used to on my BlackJack (hardware keyboard) with my Captivate (touchscreen keyboard)

How quaint. I love my iPhones audio keyboard.


Sigh.

I have an iPad, I have an Android tablet and smartphone, and I have Windows 8.

Both Android and iOS have the ability to compose with voice dictation, so please stop touting this ability as some grand iOS advantage. It's not. Android even has the ability to choose different engines to do it (Android's native voice-to-text, or Dragon Naturally Speaking, among others.)

Both Android and iOS have Siri-like applications that work to varying degrees. Again, no advantage here that I can see.

Android lets you switch out the software keyboard. You can use Swype, Swiftkey, Android stock, Smart Keyboard Pro, and dozens of others to suit your particular needs for on-screen keyboard usage. iOS doesn't allow this function at all. Advantage: Android.

Both iOS and Android have Bluetooth capability for keyboards, but Android also allows Bluetooth or USB mice, and will display a little cursor if you attach a mouse. Advantage: Android.

iOS has less problems with memory management than Android. Even the best Android tablets seem to get bogged down and require a reboot every once in a while. Sometimes they do it on their own. iOS is rock-steady stable and rarely has memory-related issues, even on older devices. Advantage: iOS.

Android devices let you add storage space, while iOS does not. Advantage: Android.

iOS devices don't have problems with apps not using the available storage space, while many Android apps will only utilize the device's built-in storage and won't permit you to run them from SD cards. Advantage: iOS.

Android devices come with varying amounts of bloatware apps that CANNOT be deleted unless you hack the device, and these apps take up a fair amount of the device's listed storage space. iOS devices only have the base iOS apps, and there's no customization from various carriers/manufacturers that forces non-iOS apps to live on your device forever. Advantage: iOS.

Windows 8 is capable of using touch screen, keyboard, mouse, Bluetooth, USB devices, and running full applications instead of walled-garden apps. iOS and Android are very limited by what you can get at their respective stores (though Android has more stores to choose from). Advantage: Windows 8.

The way I see it, Blackberry is the redheaded stepchild here. Let's stop arguing Android vs. iOS and point and laugh at the people still using Blackberry devices in 2013.

/Love my iPad & my Android tablet.
//Love my Android phone now that I have a decent one.
///Despite the ability to use a Bluetooth keyboard with Android, there are no productivity apps as good as the ones from Apple for iOS.
 
2012-11-16 01:52:39 PM

ZeroCorpse: /Love my iPad & my Android tablet.


Why do you have both? Does one do something different from the other?
 
2012-11-16 01:59:04 PM

TimonC346: I miss that keyboard. I really do--even now probably being able to type fast on the IPhone


Yeah, I know a lot of people who wish there was a version of the iPhone with a real QWERTY keyboard.

The Motorola Droid series probably has the nicest QWERTY keyboards of all the Android phones, but then you're stuck buying a Motorola. A *LOT* of people were pissed that the Droid 3 won't be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich, which isn't the first time that Moto dumped support for a phone so quickly. And the Droid 4 dropped GSM/UMTS roaming, so it is worthless outside of North America since it can't handle European and Asian LTE bands.

The Samsung QWERTY keyboards are kinda meh, and they tend to be on older models. The Sony-Ericsson Xperia keyboards aren't all that great either, and they're also limited to older models these days. 

I'm really hoping for a Google Nexus phone to be released with a real QWERTY keyboard that meets or beats those from Motorola. Now that Google owns Moto Mobility, maybe that'll happen at some point.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:12 PM

Knucklepopper: I'm sure the old school Blackberry's were fine but my first smartphone was the original Blackberry Storm and my sweetest Jesus, that thing was painful. Freezing up, refusing to switch views, powering off on its own, refusing to let me answer calls when it rang


For all my hate on the Blackberry software, my Torch hasn't frozen or otherwise crashed since I owned it. It also hasn't experienced the gradual decrease in speed that some people with older BBs report, although I've been told that can be fixed by wiping the log files kept on the phone.
 
2012-11-16 02:04:02 PM

shazbotuh:

/bangs head against keyboard


It's ok. Doesn't even come close to a boneheaded comment I posted in a thread yesterday.

*opens desk drawer* I gots diet mountain dew, diet pepsi and water. OOOH Snickers bars too!
 
2012-11-16 02:12:12 PM
Since this has drifted away from the theme of the original article, let me add:

I have a phone. It phones so I can talk two my mommy and my two sons. It does some other stuff; don't know what, don't care. It's a phone.
I have a laptop. It's an apple. It works. Seems to have fewer problems than Windows based stuff, but some irritating quirks. Don't think I'm smug about it.
I have a desktop. W xp pro. it works. Occasional glitches. More intuitive for me than Apple OS. Longer exposure, probably.

/Two best systems ever: DOS (yes, I'm old - used to calculate Std Dev by hand) and Wndws 3.1 (probably a Luddite also).
 
2012-11-16 02:18:16 PM

mcwehrle: shazbotuh:

/bangs head against keyboard

It's ok. Doesn't even come close to a boneheaded comment I posted in a thread yesterday.

*opens desk drawer* I gots diet mountain dew, diet pepsi and water. OOOH Snickers bars too!


Oooo if you don't need those Halo 4 codes, can I have them?

/EIP
 
2012-11-16 02:24:41 PM

probesport: iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of tech support for puppets.


Fixed that...etc..etc
 
2012-11-16 02:25:08 PM

mcwehrle: shazbotuh:

/bangs head against keyboard

It's ok. Doesn't even come close to a boneheaded comment I posted in a thread yesterday.

*opens desk drawer* I gots diet mountain dew, diet pepsi and water. OOOH Snickers bars too!


Ha! That's not really bad at all.. not sure what the context was though..

As for me- I just forgot to quote your post to include with my reply.. *facepalm*
 
2012-11-16 02:26:02 PM

genner: probesport: iOS - Puppets

Android - Master of tech support for puppets.

Fixed that...etc..etc


You must be a Beiber fan.
 
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