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2012-11-16 09:03:42 AM
How large of a screen? Sony is putting out a 27 inch windows tablet, and there are some 14 inch tablets coming out.

If you are talking about the normal size 10 inch or so tablets, then the MS Surface, or the Galaxy Tab are probably the way to go. In terms of apps, i would say Windows RT will have more, and better apps than the Android tablets. Android tablets just haven't taken off, where as the MS tablets have a larger business play, so my guess is the consumer apps will follow.
 
2012-11-16 09:27:41 AM
Get the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

The corners alone cost 250 million each to design.
 
2012-11-16 09:31:39 AM

king_nacho: In terms of apps, i would say Windows RT will have more, and better apps than the Android tablets.


You're kidding right?

Subby, what is your wife looking to do with it? If she is in the Amazon ecosystem for books etc. get the big Kindle Fire, otherwise the Galaxy Tab is highly regarded and is inexplicably cheap. The windows tabs are unproven, in the first generation of software, and have an extremely limited suite of software if the device runs RT. If she wants laptop/tablet hybrid that runs the full windows 8 that is a different matter, that will run anything. If you go that direction you want the Lenovo Yoga
 
2012-11-16 09:34:20 AM
Transformer Infinity TF700

Google Nexus 10 (if you can find it).
 
2012-11-16 10:01:41 AM

RexTalionis: Transformer Infinity TF700

Google Nexus 10 (if you can find it).


Google Nexus 10 would be the best probably, but they are sold out till who knows when.
 
2012-11-16 10:24:18 AM

NowhereMon: king_nacho: In terms of apps, i would say Windows RT will have more, and better apps than the Android tablets.

You're kidding right?

Subby, what is your wife looking to do with it? If she is in the Amazon ecosystem for books etc. get the big Kindle Fire, otherwise the Galaxy Tab is highly regarded and is inexplicably cheap. The windows tabs are unproven, in the first generation of software, and have an extremely limited suite of software if the device runs RT. If she wants laptop/tablet hybrid that runs the full windows 8 that is a different matter, that will run anything. If you go that direction you want the Lenovo Yoga


You are correct, they are unproven, but I don't see this like the zune, where they don't keep it going. MS has been trying to push tablet computers for years, and now the hardware is there to make it happen.

But I also said, will have more apps, not that it does now, but that it will, and I think it will soon. I think the business push with windows, including windows RT, will encourage the consumer apps to the tablet. I'm a .net developer, so i'm a little biased to MS stuff. I like my iPad, and almost bought the Tab a while back to replace it. But when I saw the previews of the windows tablets I was seriously impressed.

For me, I don't want the full windows 8 pro tablet, if I need the full desktop I'll use a VDI solution from the tablet.
 
2012-11-16 10:34:06 AM

RexTalionis: Transformer Infinity TF700

Google Nexus 10 (if you can find it).


alright, I see the bases are covered, really you cannot go wrong with any of the current Asus tablets.
 
2012-11-16 10:35:22 AM
My wife wants a labtop/tablet combo for Christmas. Is this a bad idea, or an incredibly bad idea
 
2012-11-16 10:35:47 AM
If you're willing to shell out for a Windows 8 device go with the Lenovo Ideapad Yoga

i-cdn.phonearena.com

It has a 360 degree hinge that can turn it into a 13 inch Windows 8 tablet if you need it.
 
2012-11-16 10:36:54 AM

Tigger: Get the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

The corners alone cost 250 million each to design.


I just got a Galaxy Tab 2, and it's awesome. what is she using it for?
 
2012-11-16 10:39:23 AM

zedster: RexTalionis: Transformer Infinity TF700

Google Nexus 10 (if you can find it).

alright, I see the bases are covered, really you cannot go wrong with any of the current Asus tablets.


I own the Transformer TF300 - 380 bucks for a 1.2 GHz Tegra 3 Android tablet running Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. That's a bargain right there.

I also have a dock, so it gives me theoretically 4 extra hours of battery life.

images.tweaktown.com

The SD card slot in the dock and the microSD slot in the tablet gives me theoretically 144 GB of storage (I have the 16GB tab). If I opted for the 32GB tab, then it would've been a theoretical 160GB of total storage.
 
2012-11-16 10:42:37 AM

RexTalionis: zedster: RexTalionis: Transformer Infinity TF700

Google Nexus 10 (if you can find it).

alright, I see the bases are covered, really you cannot go wrong with any of the current Asus tablets.

I own the Transformer TF300 - 380 bucks for a 1.2 GHz Tegra 3 Android tablet running Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. That's a bargain right there.

I also have a dock, so it gives me theoretically 4 extra hours of battery life.

[images.tweaktown.com image 600x400]

The SD card slot in the dock and the microSD slot in the tablet gives me theoretically 144 GB of storage (I have the 16GB tab). If I opted for the 32GB tab, then it would've been a theoretical 160GB of total storage.


THIS.

The 300 is nearly the same as the 700 and oodles cheaper. ASUS is great at timely updates and I have yet to feel a need to root my tablet I love this thing and it's turned story time with my boys into way more fun than I could have imagined. The interactive kids books on the Play Store are great. Cannot recommend highly enough.
 
2012-11-16 10:49:21 AM

NuttierThanEver: My wife wants a labtop/tablet combo for Christmas. Is this a bad idea, or an incredibly bad idea


No, it's actually pretty handy, although the meaning depends on what kind of combo she means. There is the Windows 8 Pro devices, which have full Windows and are convertible tablets and laptops (and behave more like a PC).

There is the Windows RT devices which run on ARM chips and cannot run regular desktop programs (except for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office - more might be coming in the future, but those are the only two available now) - WinRT devices behave more like tablets.

Then there's the Android devices - notably the Asus Transformer line like the one I described above. Those are just fine for use - but it's essentially stock Android interface with a keyboard and trackpad attached so it behave purely like a tablet.
 
2012-11-16 10:52:48 AM
what's her beef against iPads?
 
2012-11-16 10:53:11 AM
 
2012-11-16 10:57:10 AM

serial_crusher: what's her beef against iPads?


That's what I was going to say.

Just get an iPad.
 
2012-11-16 10:59:23 AM

tallguywithglasseson: serial_crusher: what's her beef against iPads?

That's what I was going to say.

Just get an iPad.


I guess realistically she should go with whatever OS her phone runs. If a consistent user experience doesn't sell you on the concept, surely not having to buy all your apps twice will.
 
2012-11-16 11:03:37 AM

tallguywithglasseson: serial_crusher: what's her beef against iPads?

That's what I was going to say.

Just get an iPad.


It's comparatively more expensive, it has storage limitations (i.e. no removable memory), limited ability to customize (for example, customized keyboards), no widgets, wonky notification system, no GPS chip in the Wifi models, iTunes is a terrible system for moving data from computer to tablet.

I think, for me, the biggest disadvantage is the cost and the stagnant UI (I'm an iPhone user).
 
2012-11-16 11:04:11 AM

RexTalionis: There is the Windows RT devices which run on ARM chips and cannot run regular desktop programs (except for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office - more might be coming in the future, but those are the only two available now) - WinRT devices behave more like tablets.


plus Office for Android and iOS is reportedly on that way Q1 2013, killing the one major killer app the RT platform may have had
 
2012-11-16 11:06:51 AM

zedster: RexTalionis: There is the Windows RT devices which run on ARM chips and cannot run regular desktop programs (except for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office - more might be coming in the future, but those are the only two available now) - WinRT devices behave more like tablets.

plus Office for Android and iOS is reportedly on that way Q1 2013, killing the one major killer app the RT platform may have had


Well, there's a difference - Office for Android and iOS is coming, but it's probably going to be a subscription plan through Office 365 (Microsoft's web-based Office solution) based on everything I've heard.

The Windows RT Office is a desktop version of Office that does not need a subscription plan.
 
2012-11-16 11:07:10 AM
Thanks
 
2012-11-16 11:07:35 AM
I have the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. I really like it. I put the Kindle and Nook apps on it, so I gave my daughter my regular Kindle.

It has a pretty good battery life and charges in about 2 hours.
 
2012-11-16 11:21:10 AM

RexTalionis: tallguywithglasseson: serial_crusher: what's her beef against iPads?

That's what I was going to say.

Just get an iPad.

It's comparatively more expensive, it has storage limitations (i.e. no removable memory), limited ability to customize (for example, customized keyboards), no widgets, wonky notification system, no GPS chip in the Wifi models, iTunes is a terrible system for moving data from computer to tablet.

I think, for me, the biggest disadvantage is the cost and the stagnant UI (I'm an iPhone user).


I've tried out a lot of different mobile devices through work, taking them home and using for a few weeks at a time.
When I think tablet, I think some light web browsing on the couch and maybe a few occasional games. Perhaps some books while traveling (though I have an e-ink Kindle now, which I prefer for that purpose). Maybe apps for travel (airline check-in, e-boarding pass, etc).

To me, the iPad is a fine device for that, probably the best one - though I would grant, a little expensive for the things I end up using it for (which is why I haven't bought one for myself). 

Anyway, sorry subby, I know it said right in the headline "not an iPad", not trying to be annoying, just seems silly not to consider what's may be the best device in its class. 

But, whatever floats your boat.
Personally, I didn't really care for any of the larger Android tablets.
 
2012-11-16 11:26:08 AM

RexTalionis: zedster: RexTalionis: There is the Windows RT devices which run on ARM chips and cannot run regular desktop programs (except for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office - more might be coming in the future, but those are the only two available now) - WinRT devices behave more like tablets.

plus Office for Android and iOS is reportedly on that way Q1 2013, killing the one major killer app the RT platform may have had

Well, there's a difference - Office for Android and iOS is coming, but it's probably going to be a subscription plan through Office 365 (Microsoft's web-based Office solution) based on everything I've heard.

The Windows RT Office is a desktop version of Office that does not need a subscription plan.


they will probably be apps, but they are at least a year off.
 
2012-11-16 11:36:17 AM

king_nacho: RexTalionis: zedster: RexTalionis: There is the Windows RT devices which run on ARM chips and cannot run regular desktop programs (except for Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office - more might be coming in the future, but those are the only two available now) - WinRT devices behave more like tablets.

plus Office for Android and iOS is reportedly on that way Q1 2013, killing the one major killer app the RT platform may have had

Well, there's a difference - Office for Android and iOS is coming, but it's probably going to be a subscription plan through Office 365 (Microsoft's web-based Office solution) based on everything I've heard.

The Windows RT Office is a desktop version of Office that does not need a subscription plan.

they will probably be apps, but they are at least a year off.


Of course there will be apps.

There's a Netflix app. But you still have to pay Netflix 8 bucks a month to use it.
 
2012-11-16 11:45:46 AM
Something that's water-resistant and shows recipes with good clarity.
/runs
 
2012-11-16 12:35:15 PM
From everything I've read, and I can't believe I'm typing this, the biggest threat to the iPad is Surface.
 
2012-11-16 01:33:15 PM
www.sinarline.com
obviously ?
 
2012-11-16 01:34:59 PM
Subby here.

To answer some of the questions that have popped up between submission and when Fark allows lowly liters like myself to comment:

- Large screen: Looking for a screen size of around 10"
- Y no Ipad? Y???: Not a fanboi thing, we both love iPads for surfing, reading etc, but the Mrs. has a work related web based app thingy that she needs to be able to access that doesn't work properly on the iPad. It's freelance work, so no employer provided option. Interestingly (or boringly) I've also tried to pull up this app on my Android phone and it won't come up there either, so I don't know if an Android based tablet will work either.
 
2012-11-16 01:35:37 PM

RexTalionis: If you're willing to shell out for a Windows 8 device go with the Lenovo Ideapad Yoga

It has a 360 degree hinge that can turn it into a 13 inch Windows 8 tablet if you need it.


I just ordered one. Once I put BlueStacks on it, I think I will be very happy.
 
2012-11-16 01:39:44 PM

mrphil: the Mrs. has a work related web based app thingy that she needs to be able to access that doesn't work properly on the iPad. It's freelance work, so no employer provided option. Interestingly (or boringly) I've also tried to pull up this app on my Android phone and it won't come up there either, so I don't know if an Android based tablet will work either.


So, go to the store and try some tablets there, specifically with the work app. You're going to be upset if you buy a tablet based on our recommendations and it doesn't fit your use case.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:36 PM

mrphil: web based app thingy


mrphil: I've also tried to pull up this app on my Android phone and it won't come up there either


Did you try using doing "request desktop site" or select "Linux desktop" user agent or whatever the option is on your version of Android?

I wouldn't buy a Windows tablet unless I'd tried out the web app in-store beforehand.
 
2012-11-16 01:54:37 PM
What's an iPad? Why would you have a screen on a pill?
 
2012-11-16 01:56:36 PM

mrphil: Subby here.

To answer some of the questions that have popped up between submission and when Fark allows lowly liters like myself to comment:

- Large screen: Looking for a screen size of around 10"
- Y no Ipad? Y???: Not a fanboi thing, we both love iPads for surfing, reading etc, but the Mrs. has a work related web based app thingy that she needs to be able to access that doesn't work properly on the iPad. It's freelance work, so no employer provided option. Interestingly (or boringly) I've also tried to pull up this app on my Android phone and it won't come up there either, so I don't know if an Android based tablet will work either.


Get an Android tablet - try the site out on mobile Chrome that defaults to pulling the desktop website.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:01 PM
We have a Gen 1 ipad, a 7 inch galaxy and a 10 inch galaxy. The ipad is nothing more then a coaster at this point. The wife likes the galaxy 7 because it fits in her purse.
 
2012-11-16 02:04:38 PM
Nook HD plus.
 
2012-11-16 02:08:23 PM

tallguywithglasseson: I wouldn't buy a Windows tablet unless I'd tried out the web app in-store beforehand.


Nor would I buy an Android tablet before I got it working on Android, for that matter.

I'd try this if you're trying one out in the store and it doesn't work right off the bat (that's running 4.x).
 
2012-11-16 02:57:30 PM
Well, if you just want to test stuff in Android, go download the devkit and run the virtual android machine.

http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/index.html

I have an original Xoom that is still kicking. If was going to buy a new tablet, it would be the Asus or the Galaxy. My GS3 phone is a really nice device and the tablets looks nice.

But if you main concern is the work application, test before you buy. That seems to be the main driver.
 
2012-11-16 03:07:42 PM
To everyone saying "test it using devkit) etc. Thanks! Didn't realize such a thing existed. Apparently I've slipped halfway to luddite in the past decade.
 
2012-11-16 03:07:57 PM
An Asus Transformer, with the optional keyboard dock - adds battery life, functions as a stand, and makes it easier to use for extended periods of time
 
2012-11-16 03:14:20 PM
Give her this tablet, problem solved.
img825.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-16 03:30:24 PM
I keep seeing people mention the Galaxy Tab here. Anyone have a preference for the 7" Tab over the Nexus 7?
 
2012-11-16 03:55:15 PM
THIS is by far the best value for what you can get, but it isn't android.
 
2012-11-16 04:06:41 PM
t3.gstatic.com

Probably more useful than a Surface...
 
2012-11-16 04:11:53 PM
cdn.smosh.com
 
2012-11-16 05:26:22 PM

captnwolfy: I keep seeing people mention the Galaxy Tab here. Anyone have a preference for the 7" Tab over the Nexus 7?


Nope. Because Touchwiz is awful.
 
2012-11-16 08:26:16 PM

captnwolfy: I keep seeing people mention the Galaxy Tab here. Anyone have a preference for the 7" Tab over the Nexus 7?


Nexus 7 beat the shiat out of the 7 Tab, in both my opinion and plenty of others'.
 
2012-11-16 08:46:33 PM
I'd get the Samsung that has memory card port and bluetooth. Not to mention camera.


/please buy me one
 
2012-11-16 10:07:57 PM
THIS Link
 
2012-11-17 09:11:22 PM
iPad3 is my recomendation. iPads suk
 
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