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2012-11-16 10:09:31 AM
Super wood panels?!
 
2012-11-16 10:43:33 AM
Rudder or dyke finger?
 
2012-11-16 12:11:27 PM
How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.
 
2012-11-16 12:16:31 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.


Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.
 
2012-11-16 12:35:42 PM
The Netherlands isn't exactly known for getting hurricanes or other causes of floodlike water surges. While their ideas would no doubt be better than no improvement, they'd still have limited success in another hurricane.
 
2012-11-16 12:39:45 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.


Because not paying for storm mitigation means you'll never have to bear any costs ever, right?
 
2012-11-16 12:42:48 PM
Are they going to try and steer Manhattan Island away from oncoming storms? I wonder what kind of mechanism the Dutch can provide?

Also, don't forget what happened back in the 1930s with Manhattan and an oncoming storm:

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2012-11-16 12:58:29 PM

PirateKing: Are they going to try and steer Manhattan Island away from oncoming storms? I wonder what kind of mechanism the Dutch can provide?

Also, don't forget what happened back in the 1930s with Manhattan and an oncoming storm:

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Maybe a rudder of some sort?
 
2012-11-16 01:01:03 PM
Dyke FingersTM
 
2012-11-16 01:05:07 PM
How Dutch innovations could prevent Sandy-type flooding in New York

Introduce slaves to the area, for massive sandbag project?
 
2012-11-16 01:12:14 PM

Dear Jerk: How Dutch innovations could prevent Sandy-type flooding in New York

Introduce slaves to the area, for massive sandbag project?


Not exactly innovative but it is in line with the VOC mentality a former prime minister kept promoting.
 
2012-11-16 01:15:20 PM

hogans: The Netherlands isn't exactly known for getting hurricanes or other causes of floodlike water surges. While their ideas would no doubt be better than no improvement, they'd still have limited success in another hurricane.


Ha ha haaa haaaaa haaaaaaaaaahaahaahaaaaaaaaa

The North Sea has storm surges all the time that range from mild to once in a hundred years OMG RUN TO THE HILLS.

The Dutch are the worlds best at keeping land from being flooded from the sea.
 
2012-11-16 01:35:51 PM
I don't want new inventions from the dutch after the oven they introduced.
 
2012-11-16 01:38:42 PM
Isnt Venice planning something like this?
 
2012-11-16 01:59:34 PM
the idea of barriers under the verrazano is a great idea for anyone that lives inside the harbor, but considering that the areas of NYC hardest hit by flooding were the parts of the harbor that would get more water if the barriers were there i don't think it is such a good idea.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:02 PM

hogans: The Netherlands isn't exactly known for getting hurricanes or other causes of floodlike water surges. While their ideas would no doubt be better than no improvement, they'd still have limited success in another hurricane.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the entire nation is currently (as of the last decade) prepared for a "thousand year storm." (e.g. an infrastructure that has a 0.001 chance of failing.)
 
2012-11-16 02:18:03 PM

dweigert: HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.

Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.


As a network engineer at a ISP just outside NYC I would gladly pay an extra Tax for something like this.

The damage to the PSTN and carrier interconnect in the New York Metro area was horrific after the storm. There are still central offices on generator power.

And if you don't think that affects you in other states then you have no idea how much of your phone/internet traffic goes through NYC.
 
2012-11-16 02:21:27 PM
dweigert: HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.

Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.


You're replying to someone who, going by his profile, is not from the area in question anywhere so he's not one of the people whom this concerns anyway.
 
2012-11-16 03:46:14 PM

dweigert: HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.

Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.


This. I live in Minnesota and id glad chip in to pay for this as New York is Vital to the entire nation.
 
2012-11-16 04:09:58 PM

Latinwolf: dweigert: HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.

Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.

You're replying to someone who, going by his profile, is not from the area in question anywhere so he's not one of the people whom this concerns anyway.


Judging by his posts, I'd say he's a Randroid.
 
2012-11-16 04:30:56 PM

dweigert: HotIgneous Intruder: How about NO.

/Who wants to pay for this? Raise your hand now.

Raises hand proudly... Having lived in the area for all of my life, I'd *GLADLY* pay a couple of hundred extra a year to protect from damages like Sandy caused. $30 Billion and counting in damages and lost commerce? You would be an utter fool not to want something like this.


Of course once FEMA, the Corps of Engineers, the City, Port Authority and the other 42 bureaucracies get done with it, it will cost over $300 billion to build and $4 billion per year to maintain. Then sometime in 2036 when it's finally used, half the system will fail and the other half will inadvertently cause the drowning deaths of 9000 people stuck at EWR.

We're probably better off spending the money on ways to make a hit to NYC less disruptive to the rest of the country. In other words, spend the money on other baskets for our eggs rather than doubling down on the one which contains them all.
 
2012-11-16 09:36:03 PM

roc6783: Rudder or dyke finger?


That's nether here nor there.

/triple pun
 
2012-11-16 11:08:13 PM
Just move the whole city 300 miles North.
 
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