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2012-11-16 10:52:29 AM  
Just farking kill me.
 
2012-11-16 11:23:10 AM  
Johnson got chippy when asked to clarify his involvement in the Tim Tebow trade, widely considered a bust and a distraction to the team. It has been speculated that Johnson orchestrated the deal to sell tickets. He said Tannenbaum has the final call on all football decisions.

"This, I really want to clear up," he said. "You guys have been accusing me, this phony story of me being more concerned with PSLs or cash or something else. My job - one, two and three -- is to win games. That's why I got into this to begin with. It's to win games. ... It's not to sell PSLs or to sell hot dogs."


So he's made it clear that the Tebow trade was not about selling tickets or making money....then what was it about? It obviously wasn't to win games, as they've proven with their record.
 
2012-11-16 12:31:18 PM  
How many owners does that headline describe?
 
2012-11-16 12:31:31 PM  
This is the same tool who said that we should all vote Romney because "we should put country first." Proof that wealth doesn't necessarily means brains.
 
2012-11-16 12:33:11 PM  
Giants win Superbowl: Sign Favre
Giants win Superbowl: Sign Tebow.

The Jets are winning the Back Page Wars which must be nice.
fark Woody.
 
2012-11-16 12:36:55 PM  
www.ringsthatbling.com

I hope this pic pisses you off.

/whatever happened to that guy? that was his stock response to any criticism of the Jets.
 
2012-11-16 12:40:59 PM  
I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it...

Giants bring the championships to New York,
Jets bring the circus.
 
2012-11-16 12:46:15 PM  
Woody Johnson

/that is all
 
2012-11-16 12:49:21 PM  
By by, Rex
 
2012-11-16 12:50:11 PM  
No worries. Michael Vick will be a free man after this season is over. Jets will sign him and then the wins just keep rolling in.

Where did I put my bottle of Thorazine?
 
2012-11-16 12:59:11 PM  

Gunny Highway: Giants win Superbowl: Sign Favre
Giants win Superbowl: Sign Tebow.

The Jets are winning the Back Page Wars which must be nice.
fark Woody.


Yeah, it must be nice to see the newspapers constantly pointing out your 3-6 season.
 
2012-11-16 12:59:54 PM  

Ham Sandvich: How many owners does that headline describe?


Only one came to mind, but hey...I live in Central Texas.
 
2012-11-16 01:00:52 PM  
He has such a knack for picking winners, too.

Link

"Well, I think you always have to put country first," Johnson said. "So I think it's very, very important, not only for us, but in particular for our kids and grandkids that this election come off with Mitt Romney and Ryan as president and vice president."

Johnson also backed quarterback Mark Sanchez a day after the team slipped to 2-2 this season with a 34-0 home loss to the San Francisco 49ers.
 
2012-11-16 01:05:54 PM  

rickythepenguin: I hope this pic pisses you off.

/whatever happened to that guy? that was his stock response to any criticism of the Jets.


Well, when the team is a dumpster fire, I doubt Vinny wants to come bump his gums.

Which actually surprises me.
 
2012-11-16 01:12:39 PM  
Having watched every Seahawks game this season in it's entirety, I can say without a doubt that the Jets were the worst team they've played. At least in that game, the Jets were the worst. Aside from one blown coverage on a drive that ended in the worst INT I've seen this year, Sanchez was completely useless out there. He was the 4th best QB in the game behind a rookie, a WR and Tim Tebow.
 
2012-11-16 01:13:41 PM  
#1) If You don't like your record Woody Johnson: Fire your GM and your Coach
#2) If You don't like your record and your starting QB is shiat he needs to be benched (at least for one game)
#3) If you don't like your record and you traded for a 2nd string QB that you have no intention of playing you shouldn't have pushed to trade for him
 
2012-11-16 01:15:28 PM  
Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?
 
2012-11-16 01:19:07 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?


He would be playing if the coaches wanted him.
 
2012-11-16 01:21:17 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?


Though they'd never say it, I'm assuming the allure was to bring the most popular player in the NFL to the largest market for marketing purposes. I would assume that Tebow is seeing playing time only because Sanchez has been such a terrible QB this season. The 10 snaps he saw against the Seahawks were the most he's had at QB in any game this season.
 
2012-11-16 01:22:23 PM  

Wadded Beef: This is the same tool who said that we should all vote Romney because "we should put country first." Proof that wealth doesn't necessarily means brains.


He inherited it.
 
2012-11-16 01:23:03 PM  
Jerry Jones?

*checks link*

Wow, not this time
 
2012-11-16 01:24:20 PM  

seumasokelly: Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?

Though they'd never say it, I'm assuming the allure was to bring the most popular player in the NFL to the largest market for marketing purposes. I would assume that Tebow is seeing playing time only because Sanchez has been such a terrible QB this season. The 10 snaps he saw against the Seahawks were the most he's had at QB in any game this season.


The offense score zero point in Seattle. That team blows, it doesnt matter who is under center.
 
2012-11-16 01:24:21 PM  

Gunny Highway: Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?

He would be playing if the coaches wanted him.


This evokes images from Money Ball.
 
2012-11-16 01:25:25 PM  

Gunny Highway: Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?

He would be playing if the coaches wanted him.


They were buying him as a threat to sanchez

and to shill the Je$ts
 
2012-11-16 01:26:45 PM  
Seriously? it's not even lunch time here and we are already 2/3 the way to a Tebow trifecta? He's a backup QB, a BAD backup at that. And he gets Favrian levels of coverage?

MAKE
IT
END
 
2012-11-16 01:28:38 PM  

Gunny Highway: seumasokelly: Orgasmatron138: Who exactly was it that wanted Tebow? Was it ownership or the coaching staff?

Though they'd never say it, I'm assuming the allure was to bring the most popular player in the NFL to the largest market for marketing purposes. I would assume that Tebow is seeing playing time only because Sanchez has been such a terrible QB this season. The 10 snaps he saw against the Seahawks were the most he's had at QB in any game this season.

The offense score zero point in Seattle. That team blows, it doesnt matter who is under center.


I remember for the iggles

McNabb was stinking up the place

he was benched for one game and he came back and did better.

There is nothing to pressure sanchez to step up
 
2012-11-16 01:29:36 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Seriously? it's not even lunch time here and we are already 2/3 the way to a Tebow trifecta? He's a backup QB, a BAD backup at that. And he gets Favrian levels of coverage?

MAKE
IT
END


He was not a bad back up in Denver

(he wasn't great but he wasn't bad)
 
2012-11-16 01:40:49 PM  
i thought this would be the Cowboys
 
2012-11-16 01:43:38 PM  
Ah the New York Jets, ever since Super Bowl III (which some even think it was a conspiracy to win the Super Bowl) the Jets have found a way to screw up every year...
 
2012-11-16 01:44:53 PM  

karasoth: They were buying him as a threat to sanchez


Tebow is about as big of a threat to Sanchez's job as Revis.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:36 PM  

karasoth: Representative of the unwashed masses: Seriously? it's not even lunch time here and we are already 2/3 the way to a Tebow trifecta? He's a backup QB, a BAD backup at that. And he gets Favrian levels of coverage?

MAKE
IT
END

He was not a bad back up in Denver

(he wasn't great but he wasn't bad)


And he's not even that big a part of this story. The story is "this team is putrid". The locker room is a toxic waste dump, and there is maybe one player on the roster that could be argued as a potential Hall of Famer (and he's out for the rest of the year). They lack talent and chemistry. This was a team that went to consecutive conference championships, and has deteriorated into an absolute trainwreck. If Woody wants to show any proof he's interesting in winning, he's got to get rid of a large swath of that roster, the coach that established the culture in that locker room, the GM that put together that roster.
 
2012-11-16 01:52:30 PM  

digistil: karasoth: They were buying him as a threat to sanchez

Tebow is about as big of a threat to Sanchez's job as Revis.


At this point, Golden Tate might be a threat to Sanchez job if the Jets went after him.
 
2012-11-16 01:56:25 PM  

UNC_Samurai: the coach that established the culture in that locker room,


Rex is yet another example of the type of person Woody's been interested in for a while. All show, no substance. I seriously wonder what this offense would look like in anyone else's hands, because it's clear he has zero interest in it.
 
2012-11-16 01:58:17 PM  

lakrfool: Woody Johnson

/that is all


That's just his porn name. His birth name was Penis Penisson.
 
2012-11-16 02:06:49 PM  

FriarReb98: UNC_Samurai: the coach that established the culture in that locker room,

Rex is yet another example of the type of person Woody's been interested in for a while. All show, no substance. I seriously wonder what this offense would look like in anyone else's hands, because it's clear he has zero interest in it.


Isn't it basically Sporano's offense? It looks like he calls the plays and subs the QBs.
 
2012-11-16 02:10:54 PM  
The part that is completely unexplainable by Woody was the signing of Drew Stanton as a legitimate backup BEFORE he threw Tebow in to this mess. He can deny it all he wants, but we were set with a decent backup for the system we planned to run, and out of nowhere the team makes a completely asisnine move for the biggest headline stealer out there. On top of that, it pissed off the back-stabbed Stanton so much that we had to trade him AND eat his signing bonus.

But hey, you got your PSLs and stole the headlines from the Giants, Woody. Nice work.
 
2012-11-16 02:22:11 PM  

TonnageVT: I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it...

Giants bring the championships to New York,
Jets bring the circus.


This.
 
2012-11-16 02:22:59 PM  
My job - one, two and three -- is to win games.

And now that those three wins are out of the way he can get back to selling hot dogs.
 
2012-11-16 02:46:51 PM  
I'm not going to the lie; the Jets are not very good at football.
 
2012-11-16 02:47:43 PM  
Apparently my sentences are being invading by alien "the's" who insert themselves without warning.
 
2012-11-16 02:48:01 PM  

rickythepenguin: I hope this pic pisses you off.

/whatever happened to that guy? that was his stock response to any criticism of the Jets.


I miss that guy, always hilarious. Especially when he posted the chefs one.
 
2012-11-16 02:48:53 PM  
seumasokelly: Isn't it basically Sporano's offense? It looks like he calls the plays and subs the QBs.

Yeah, going out and getting the coach of the Dolphins, who except for Jacksonville had the worst offense in the NFL last year, and making him your offensive coordinator has gone just about as well as it figured to. Take out the two games against the Bills (48) and the Colts (35) and the New York Jets have only averaged around 10 points a game. Even if the defense was healthy they can't win like that. It makes one wonder if the Jets are so terrible on offense because they have no talent or if it's because of Sporano.
 
2012-11-16 02:58:21 PM  

varmitydog: seumasokelly: Isn't it basically Sporano's offense? It looks like he calls the plays and subs the QBs.

Yeah, going out and getting the coach of the Dolphins, who except for Jacksonville had the worst offense in the NFL last year, and making him your offensive coordinator has gone just about as well as it figured to. Take out the two games against the Bills (48) and the Colts (35) and the New York Jets have only averaged around 10 points a game. Even if the defense was healthy they can't win like that. It makes one wonder if the Jets are so terrible on offense because they have no talent or if it's because of Sporano.


The latter......no the former, ah screw it its both A and B
 
2012-11-16 03:04:17 PM  

varmitydog: seumasokelly: Isn't it basically Sporano's offense? It looks like he calls the plays and subs the QBs.

Yeah, going out and getting the coach of the Dolphins, who except for Jacksonville had the worst offense in the NFL last year, and making him your offensive coordinator has gone just about as well as it figured to. Take out the two games against the Bills (48) and the Colts (35) and the New York Jets have only averaged around 10 points a game. Even if the defense was healthy they can't win like that. It makes one wonder if the Jets are so terrible on offense because they have no talent or if it's because of Sporano.


But he ran the Wildcat! Remember how awesome that was for a few weeks until people figured out how to defend it?

/Tebow starts on Thanksgiving, bank on it
//Makes sense, given all the other high school caliber QBs playing that day
 
2012-11-16 03:16:46 PM  

rickythepenguin: [www.ringsthatbling.com image 363x275]

I hope this pic pisses you off.

/whatever happened to that guy? that was his stock response to any criticism of the Jets.


I loved it every time. It always sparked the trolliest of troll threads.
 
2012-11-16 03:26:46 PM  
I guarantee that Woody's religiosity played a big part in this trade.
 
2012-11-16 04:15:15 PM  

pregerstheHobo: I miss that guy, always hilarious. Especially when he posted the chefs one.


i don't remember the chefs incident.


roc6783: I loved it every time. It always sparked the trolliest of troll threads.


whenever he got backed into corner on the Sanchez argument, that was his closer. his "slam the mic to the stage, pimp walk offstage" move.
 
2012-11-16 04:25:24 PM  
New rule - anything that happened over 20 years ago can no longer be used to disparage or defend your chosen team.

Notable exceptions to this rule include:

Scott Norwood
Leon Lett (soon to be 20 years ago)
The Super Bowl Shuffle
The last time the Dolphins did anything good (c'mon, they need this one)
The Steelers first four championships (because no matter how long has passed, Steelers fans will bring these up anyway)

/Events to be added as warranted
 
2012-11-16 04:33:43 PM  

Wadded Beef: This is the same tool who said that we should all vote Romney because "we should put country first." Proof that wealth doesn't necessarily means brains.


Well, in that comment, he said he'd take a Romney win over the Jets having a winning season. So he's probably crying and using $1000 bills as tissues.
 
2012-11-16 04:46:01 PM  

seumasokelly: New rule - anything that happened over 20 years ago can no longer be used to disparage or defend your chosen team.

Notable exceptions to this rule include:

Scott Norwood
Leon Lett (soon to be 20 years ago)
The Super Bowl Shuffle
The last time the Dolphins did anything good (c'mon, they need this one)
The Steelers first four championships (because no matter how long has passed, Steelers fans will bring these up anyway)

/Events to be added as warranted


I hope this pic pisses you off 13 times. Scoreboard in da howzzzze. 

static8.businessinsider.com
 
2012-11-16 04:53:27 PM  

roc6783: seumasokelly: New rule - anything that happened over 20 years ago can no longer be used to disparage or defend your chosen team.

Notable exceptions to this rule include:

Scott Norwood
Leon Lett (soon to be 20 years ago)
The Super Bowl Shuffle
The last time the Dolphins did anything good (c'mon, they need this one)
The Steelers first four championships (because no matter how long has passed, Steelers fans will bring these up anyway)

/Events to be added as warranted

I hope this pic pisses you off 13 times. Scoreboard in da howzzzze. 

[static8.businessinsider.com image 608x457]


That picture just made me laugh at Cleveland.
 
2012-11-16 05:12:30 PM  

redmid17: roc6783: seumasokelly: ***snip***

That picture just made me laugh at Cleveland.


Hell, who needs a pic to do that?
 
2012-11-16 05:16:08 PM  

roc6783: redmid17: roc6783: seumasokelly: ***snip***

That picture just made me laugh at Cleveland.

Hell, who needs a pic to do that?


Sometimes I need to be reminded that Cleveland exists
 
2012-11-16 05:43:08 PM  

seumasokelly: Having watched every Seahawks game this season in it's entirety, I can say without a doubt that the Jets were the worst team they've played. At least in that game, the Jets were the worst. Aside from one blown coverage on a drive that ended in the worst INT I've seen this year, Sanchez was completely useless out there. He was the 4th best QB in the game behind a rookie, a WR and Tim Tebow.


Oh just wait, the Dolphins are coming. They managed 3 points against Tennesee, and 7 against Buffalo. Sure, they've got a stiffer defense, but all you have to do is manage to score more than 7 points and watch the fail.

/still tired from watching every minute of that clusterfark last night
 
2012-11-16 05:48:00 PM  

digistil: karasoth: They were buying him as a threat to sanchez

Tebow is about as big of a threat to Sanchez's job as Revis.


Well they also ruined that strategy by then giving sanchez 8 million

its stupid
 
2012-11-16 05:52:18 PM  

UNC_Samurai: karasoth: Representative of the unwashed masses: Seriously? it's not even lunch time here and we are already 2/3 the way to a Tebow trifecta? He's a backup QB, a BAD backup at that. And he gets Favrian levels of coverage?

MAKE
IT
END

He was not a bad back up in Denver

(he wasn't great but he wasn't bad)

And he's not even that big a part of this story. The story is "this team is putrid". The locker room is a toxic waste dump, and there is maybe one player on the roster that could be argued as a potential Hall of Famer (and he's out for the rest of the year). They lack talent and chemistry. This was a team that went to consecutive conference championships, and has deteriorated into an absolute trainwreck. If Woody wants to show any proof he's interesting in winning, he's got to get rid of a large swath of that roster, the coach that established the culture in that locker room, the GM that put together that roster.


Very much this

I am a fan of Rex Ryan: But what worked for Rex in his first three seasons has been circling the terlet by this point.

You want the team to be better you need a better head coach.

The General Manager has not picked up any players of character (except Tebow) of late and not all that many players with talent. He has to go if they want the team to get better

Sanchez is a bust. Who knew Josh Freeman was at a MINIMUM the second best QB in his draft class
 
2012-11-16 06:12:42 PM  
I'm getting this vibe like Tebow has gone on to become irrelevant, unlike most other Heisman winners in the NFL.
 
2012-11-16 06:14:09 PM  

Mutt Farkinov: I'm getting this vibe like Tebow has gone on to become irrelevant, unlike most other Heisman winners in the NFL.


Well reggie is kind of relevant only now
 
2012-11-16 07:19:59 PM  

Geeves00: Jerry Jones?

*checks link*

Wow, not this time


Jerry doesn't build his team to win headlines, he builds his team to win football games. He's just a really, really bad GM, and overvalues the wrong positions.

Jerry doesn't understand that the most generic, replaceable guys on a modern NFL team are the RBs and WRs, while you need to lock down your O-line. For one example, he found a good RT in Doug Free, decided to try him out at LT (where Free struggled), and then moved him back to RT this year, where Free then struggled for the first part of the year because he was completely in his own head.

//I'm stuck in Cowboys country, I see these things.
 
2012-11-16 07:50:43 PM  
FTFA: "Maybe it's easy to say, 'That's what they should do.' Well, that's fine. To me, I've never been a person like that. I believe guys have the right, covered by whatever amendment that is."

That was uttered by Jets owner Woody Johnson. He is a college graduate, a member of an influential foreign-policy think-tank, and CEO of a successful investment firm, and he didn't know what constitutional amendment provides for the right to free speech.

Kids, there is no better evidence that the power structure that will govern your future is completely meaningless. Education, wealth....meaningless. Learn survival skills useful in a post-apocalyptic hellscape, because if beacons of society such as the owner of a team in the most successful business in the history of Earth can succeed lacking basic awareness of civics, you have no chance. Make your time.
 
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