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(WorldNetDaily)   Hard proof that Obama will walk back gun rights in his next term   (wnd.com) divider line 215
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2012-11-16 12:45:04 AM
You have no idea what the term "hard proof' means, do you dipshiatmitter?
 
2012-11-16 12:48:09 AM
Durr hurrr...free 'public...Fartbama....derp derp derp
 
2012-11-16 12:54:16 AM
Let me guess: Agenda 21?
 
2012-11-16 01:04:35 AM
Yes, I remember; I had lasagna.
 
2012-11-16 01:05:13 AM
"56 million dead thanks to Gov't gun control", according to this well respected journalist:

i798.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 01:05:39 AM
yes, a non-binding resolution that requires a 2/3rds vote in the senate to ratify will totally take away your guns.
 
2012-11-16 01:08:56 AM
i131.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 01:09:36 AM
glad I wasn't the only one who noticed
 
2012-11-16 01:11:42 AM

log_jammin: [i131.photobucket.com image 647x363]


And Rachel Maddow's lawyer says "Now, who are you again?"
 
2012-11-16 01:16:16 AM
 
2012-11-16 01:17:02 AM
What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.
 
2012-11-16 01:21:49 AM
From Wikipedia:

In May 2011 Dean was invited to deliver a prayer in front of the Minnesota House of Representatives. He was criticized by members of both parties for the prayer, which included the words "I know this is a non-denominational prayer in this chamber and it's not about the Baptists and it's not about the Catholics alone or the Lutherans or the Wesleyans. Or the Presbyterians, the Evangelicals, or any other denomination, but rather the head of the denomination and his name is Jesus. As every president up until 2008 has acknowledged. And we pray it. In Jesus' name."

Sounds like a Grade-A, unadulterated, numbnuts asshole. And I'm saying that in my official capacity as a libertarian-conservative.
 
2012-11-16 01:32:09 AM

Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.


Name one thing about Howard Dean that's crazy aside from the fact that he got excited at one speech during a Presidential campaign.

One thing.
 
2012-11-16 01:36:40 AM
Huff po 7/9/12

Christian rocker Bradlee Dean, who filed a $50 million defamation lawsuit against Rachel Maddow, was ordered to pay the MSNBC host's legal fees last month.

In July 2011, Dean sued Maddow claiming the MSNBC host mischaracterized his views on gay rights and Sharia law. Dean refered to an August 2010 segment in which Maddow quoted statements Dean made on his radio show:

"Muslims are calling for the execution of homosexuals in America. They themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible, the Judeo-Christian God, but they seem to be more moral than the American Christians do. Because these people are livid about enforcing their laws. They know homosexuality is an abomination. If America won't enforce the laws, God will raise up a foreign enemy to do just that."

Dean said that Maddow omitted a line from his statement, in which the Christian rocker said he was against the killing of gay people. Maddow, however, read the line. MSNBC and Maddow pushed back against the lawsuit, calling for its dismissal.

Reports surfaced on Monday that Dean was ordered to pay the defendants' legal fees. In addition to Maddow, MSNBC, The Minnesota Independent and Andy Birkey are reportedly all named as defendants in the suit. According to court records, Dean was ordered to pay a total of $24,625.23.
 
2012-11-16 01:41:33 AM

urban.derelict: Yes, I remember; I had lasagna.


Was it crock pot lasagna though ?

Oh, and Bradlee Dean, yeah.If you look up the word tool in an encyclopeadia- it has , amongst many others, his pic.
 
2012-11-16 01:59:02 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.

Name one thing about Howard Dean that's crazy aside from the fact that he got excited at one speech during a Presidential campaign.

One thing.


minnesotaindependent.com
 
2012-11-16 02:00:49 AM

InspectorZero: cameroncrazy1984: Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.

Name one thing about Howard Dean that's crazy aside from the fact that he got excited at one speech during a Presidential campaign.

One thing.

[minnesotaindependent.com image 517x459]


What you did there- I see it. ha
 
2012-11-16 02:16:20 AM
FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?
 
2012-11-16 02:20:31 AM

InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?


I'm pretty sure that is a made up quote.
 
2012-11-16 02:22:17 AM

InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?


I've discovered that when a right winger quotes one of the founding fathers, the quote tends to be made up. The further to the right they are, the more likely the quote is made up.

Is that quote made up? I don't know. But based on past experiences, I'm not going to bother looking it up to find out.
 
2012-11-16 02:27:30 AM

log_jammin: InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?

I've discovered that when a right winger quotes one of the founding fathers, the quote tends to be made up. The further to the right they are, the more likely the quote is made up.

Is that quote made up? I don't know. But based on past experiences, I'm not going to bother looking it up to find out.


It took me 3 seconds of googling;

It's made up
 
2012-11-16 02:29:25 AM

log_jammin: InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?

I've discovered that when a right winger quotes one of the founding fathers, the quote tends to be made up. The further to the right they are, the more likely the quote is made up.

Is that quote made up? I don't know. But based on past experiences, I'm not going to bother looking it up to find out.


Sometimes, but not always. I guess the point being, this is some dumbfark who pulled an unverified quote off the first site that resulted from a "god, guns, jesus" google search.
 
2012-11-16 02:31:07 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It took me 3 seconds of googling;

It's made up



I'm shocked
 
2012-11-16 02:33:32 AM

cameroncrazy1984: log_jammin: InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

- George Washington"

Really? I've read a lot about Washington and have never heard this quote before. Although I agree with the sentiment, the style does not seem consistent with the late 18th century. Wat do?

I've discovered that when a right winger quotes one of the founding fathers, the quote tends to be made up. The further to the right they are, the more likely the quote is made up.

Is that quote made up? I don't know. But based on past experiences, I'm not going to bother looking it up to find out.

It took me 3 seconds of googling;

It's made up


Well, you can't fix stupid...
 
2012-11-16 02:41:15 AM
Source 1:


June 28, 2008 -- Liberty teeth: George Washington never said 'Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself'


G_washington In the gun-control debate two days ago, two of our commenters "quoted" George Washington as saying:

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the people's liberty teeth."

I said then that, in all the writings I've seen by Washington, I have never seen anything so succinct. He just didn't talk or write like that. He never wrote a straightforward clause of nine words if it could be said more obtusely in 50 words. He was the greatest, most indispensable hero of our democracy, but he simply wasn't the clearest, most direct writer.

Quotation invented. It didn't take long to check out this "liberty teeth" statement. Washington never said it. Someone made it up. Fortunately, the "Pious Frauds" Web site has done the research on the words, often claimed to have been spoken by Washington at the second session of the first U.S. Congress.



Source 2: No one can say I am not even-handed, now, can they? Pay attention to the slant of the language here.

BOGUS, FAKE & QUESTIONABLE QUOTES
FALSELY ATTRIBUTED TO THE
FOUNDING FATHERS


Even though the Founding Fathers and their contemporaries were quite clear about their support for the individual right to keep and bear arms, some overzealous people have attempted to falsely attribute a few additional quotes to their legacy in order to defeat the gun grabbers. Creating bogus quotes is wrong and counterproductive. It harms the rest of the message sent by any person utilizing a proven fake quote, even if the person is unintentionally and unknowingly repeating a made-up statement.

The fact is that the gun haters lie enough for everyone involved in the gun control debate. Resorting to their methods only lowers us to their level, and therefore it is best to keep our side honest.



Source 3:

This article is from the talk.politics.guns Official Pro-Gun FAQ, by Ken Barnes (k­e­ba­rnes[nospam-﹫-backwards]c­c*memp­h­is*e­d­u) with numerous contributions by others.

99. APPENDIX VI - "Pious Frauds: Or, If It Sounds Too Good To Be True..." (talk.politics.guns Official Pro-Gun FAQ)

In the Middle Ages, it seems that every church had a splinter
of the True Cross, or a piece of cloth supposedly from the burial
shroud of Jesus. While some of these were honest mistakes (and maybe
one of those splinters was what it was claimed to be), a great many
of the holy artifacts the peasants came to see were what we now call
"pious frauds," manufactured relics made with the expectation that
people would believe them to be real. It was easy for some monks and
priests to justify this dishonesty, because they made it easier for
the peasants to believe. Along with an enormous amount of good,
well-researched evidence on the pro-RKBA side, there exist several
items, mostly "quotations," which are popular, but in fact are
"pious frauds." Whoever first put these items into circulation
must have known that they were false, but figured it would "help
the cause". It doesn't. Neither does spreading them around today.
To help combat the spread of bad information, and prevent pro-gun
authors and speakers from looking foolish when somone catches them
with one of these apocryphal references, the texts of the most common
ones are analyzed below:

The "Liberty Teeth" Speech by "George Washington"
--
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under
independence. The church, the plow, the prarie wagon, and
citizen's firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the
Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and
tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness,
the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner
of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of
them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands.
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains
evil interference; they deserve a place with all that's good.
When firearms, go all goes; we need them every hour."
--falsely attributed to George Washington, address to the
second session of the first U.S. Congress

This quotation, sometimes called the "liberty teeth" quote,
appears nowhere in Washington's papers or speeches,
and contains
several historical anachronisms: the reference to "prarie wagon"
in an America which had yet to even begin settling the Great Plains
(which were owned by France at the time), the reference to "the
Pilgrims" which implies a modern historical perspective, and
particularly the attempt by "Washington" to defend the utility
of firearms (by_use_of_statistics!) to an audience which would
have used firearms in their daily lives to obtain food, defend
against hostile Indians, and which had only recently won a war
for independence. The "99 99/100 percent" is also an odd phrase
for 18th century America, which tended not to use fractional
percentages. It's clear that "Washington" is addressing "gun
control" arguments which wouldn't exist for another couple
of centuries, not to mention doing so in a style that is
uncharacteristic of the period, and uncharacteristic of
Washington's addresses to Congress, both of which exhibited a
high degree of formality.
This is a false quote, but bits and
pieces of it still continue to crop up from time to time.
Most recently, this quote has been seen circulated on flyers
at gun shows attributed to Neil Knox's Firearms Coalition,
but Knox isn't the original source of this "speech," and even
national publications, such as_Playboy_magazine, have been
snared by it. ("Playboy_published the "quote" in December 1995
as part of an article entitled "Once and for All: What the
Founding Fathers Said About Guns". After consulting with an
assistant editor of the George Washington Papers at the University
of Virginia,"Playboy_published a lengthy correction in March 1996.)
 
2012-11-16 02:44:25 AM
now I'm going to be chuckling over "liberty teeth" for the next week.
 
2012-11-16 04:46:39 AM
By "walking back", you mean "make sure gun buyers aren't felons and know how to use/secure their new purchase", right idiotmitter?
 
2012-11-16 08:48:39 AM

log_jammin: both Bachmann and Emmer will appear in his upcoming documentary My War.[35]


"My War", huh? Sounds like he's had quite a struggle. He should sit down in a nice Kampfy chair.
 
2012-11-16 08:50:41 AM
To be fair, if we start restricting gun purchases by the mentally unstable, we will in effect be preventing the farkwads who follow WND from owning guns.
 
2012-11-16 08:51:27 AM
Not clicking WND but guessing it's the UN thing. Obvious broken records are obviously broken.
 
2012-11-16 08:54:02 AM

dogdaze: Not clicking WND but guessing it's the UN thing. Obvious broken records are obviously broken.


ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. NEW WORLD ORDER. I TYPE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I AM OBVIOUSLY NOT CRAZY.

In other news, I spent some time yesterday mocking a Chemtrailer. "I have this panoramic photograph showing planes turning in mid-air and leaving contrails behind. CHEMTRAILS!" He posted a huge wall-o-text "proving" his case, but I honestly couldn't be arsed to read it.
 
2012-11-16 08:54:04 AM
"Face Down, Ass Up is the Constitutionally way to f*ck" - George Washington.
 
2012-11-16 09:12:56 AM
There appears to be 1001 ways to make money of gullible Republicans. Why am I too stupid to get in on this racket?
 
2012-11-16 09:17:07 AM
To paraphrase The Onion, douches like this who are so fervent in their defense of the Constitution are the ones who understand and appreciate it the least.
 
2012-11-16 09:23:19 AM
After the president, with help from his fraternizers in the deceptive state-run media, somehow won his re-election campaign, I thought it was important to note the first thing Obama and his administration did was turn its attention to the United Nations gun treaty talks.

Wow, I didn't know we had a "state-run media"... well, I guess all but the courageous "Fox News" patriots who defy our government control of the media!
 
2012-11-16 09:48:40 AM

Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.


That's Dr. Scream to you.
 
2012-11-16 09:56:32 AM

BSABSVR: You have no idea what the term "hard proof' means, do you dipshiatmitter?


Or "walk back", evidently.
 
2012-11-16 09:58:48 AM
Who the f*ck is this asshole?
 
2012-11-16 10:01:24 AM

Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.


the crowd - in person- loved his bit that ended in the infamous scream. it person, in context, it didn't seem crazy at all.. just a little bit of voice cracking when he did it [which is to be expected after a long day and lots of speaking].

nobody and ten the supposedly liberal media played it several hundred times in the next few days as a "look at how crazy he is!!"
 
2012-11-16 10:02:24 AM

Kazan: the crowd - in person- loved his bit that ended in the infamous scream. it person, in context, it didn't seem crazy at all.. just a little bit of voice cracking when he did it [which is to be expected after a long day and lots of speaking].


To be entirely fair, "the crowd in person loved" it doesn't preclude it from being crazy. People love Sarah Palin in person, too.

/don't think the Dean scream was crazy or really in any way weird, dude got farked
 
2012-11-16 10:02:57 AM

tnpir: Who the f*ck is this asshole?


You embedded the answer in the question.
 
2012-11-16 10:05:21 AM

DamnYankees: Kazan: the crowd - in person- loved his bit that ended in the infamous scream. it person, in context, it didn't seem crazy at all.. just a little bit of voice cracking when he did it [which is to be expected after a long day and lots of speaking].

To be entirely fair, "the crowd in person loved" it doesn't preclude it from being crazy. People love Sarah Palin in person, too.

/don't think the Dean scream was crazy or really in any way weird, dude got farked


i lived in iowa at the time. so i was not far from it.. i had gotten to meet the man, shake his hand and as him a question. he was very well informed and intelligent, the entire "dean scream" thing pisses me off to no end. The man would have been a better candidate than Kerry, a better president than Obama [not a huge ding on obama here], and wasn't afraid to apply boot to ass.
 
2012-11-16 10:07:59 AM

Elandriel: What is it with conservatives who have Dean in their name, and crazy BS?

Democrats too for that matter. Yes I'm talking to you, Mr. Scream.


I know, Jimmy Deans are crazy good.
 
2012-11-16 10:09:31 AM

Kazan: The man would have been a better candidate than Kerry, a better president than Obama [not a huge ding on obama here], and wasn't afraid to apply boot to ass.


Kerry was a very good candidate; it annoys me that people underrate him. He outperformed the fundamentals that year. The reality is that Bush was a pretty solid favorite based on the exogenous numbers - relatively popular, wartime president with a growing economy.
 
2012-11-16 10:14:09 AM

DamnYankees: Kazan: The man would have been a better candidate than Kerry, a better president than Obama [not a huge ding on obama here], and wasn't afraid to apply boot to ass.

Kerry was a very good candidate; it annoys me that people underrate him. He outperformed the fundamentals that year. The reality is that Bush was a pretty solid favorite based on the exogenous numbers - relatively popular, wartime president with a growing economy.


i was there dude. kerry was the anti-bush candidate, he couldn't excite a room of hyperactive caffeinated gaming nerds with their favorite new game in hand. he also had no idea how to respond to people libeling him, when all the shiat they did he could have hit them hard for insulting the armed forces.
 
2012-11-16 10:15:08 AM
Hey my whole train of thought was just associating the name Dean with some crazy political hap'nins. Don't throw me under the hatebus, there's a lot of trolls under there that I have ignored and their haunting, disembodied cries would turn my blood to ice.

Before long...I'd be one of them.

...libtards...
 
2012-11-16 10:16:29 AM

Kazan: DamnYankees: Kazan: The man would have been a better candidate than Kerry, a better president than Obama [not a huge ding on obama here], and wasn't afraid to apply boot to ass.

Kerry was a very good candidate; it annoys me that people underrate him. He outperformed the fundamentals that year. The reality is that Bush was a pretty solid favorite based on the exogenous numbers - relatively popular, wartime president with a growing economy.

i was there dude. kerry was the anti-bush candidate, he couldn't excite a room of hyperactive caffeinated gaming nerds with their favorite new game in hand. he also had no idea how to respond to people libeling him, when all the shiat they did he could have hit them hard for insulting the armed forces.


You can say this all you want - it's empirically not true. Kerry got 20% more votes than any other Democratic President in history. He came incredibly close to beating a popular wartime President.

Don't confuse how much Bush is hated now with how much he was hated then. He just wasn't. He would have been incredibly hard for anyone to beat in 2004, and Kerry came very, very close. You are letting the GOP insult of Kerry persist if you buy into this nonsense.
 
2012-11-16 10:19:01 AM

tnpir: Who the f*ck is this asshole?


Some asshole with a keyboard - the worst type.
 
2012-11-16 10:24:59 AM

InspectorZero: FTFA: ""Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."


"Conservatives should be rounded up and placed in FEMA camps, then forcibly raped by bands of rabid howler monkeys" - Abraham Lincoln
 
2012-11-16 10:26:00 AM

InspectorZero: Sounds like a Grade-A, unadulterated, numbnuts asshole


He is. Just reading that blurb brings back memories, and makes me glad the Republican majority in both houses of our State Legislature was short. Yeah some of them distanced themselves from him after he spoke, but they're the ones who invited him in the first place, and knew (or should have known) what he was all about. shiatheads.
 
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