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(Politico)   A week and a half after the elections, five seats in the House of Representatives are too close to call. Of course, Democrats are leading in all of them. How did you know?   (politico.com) divider line 18
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2012-11-16 07:36:21 AM
9 votes:
For anyone remotely interested in my poll worker CSB, I'll leave you with an open letter I penned on the subject of Voter ID laws after a particularly grueling day of working with the public.

From An Anonymous Precinct Worker, An Open Letter to Each Ticked Off Republican Voter:

1. NC State Law does not require me to see a photo ID. Quite the opposite. NC law FORBIDS me from asking for ID unless the registration requirement has not been met.

2. Nothing you have to say on the subject will change point #1. The fact that you don't like state law in no way changes state law.

3. Insisting that I "need" to check everyone's ID means that you're not only obnoxious, but ignorant of the existing law.

4. You are not the 1st person to detail how you could attempt in-person voter fraud. Your ideas are not new, they are not clever, and they are in no way relevant. In fact they are quite stupid. Should you meet the existing requirement of correctly stating a name and corresponding address I will gladly give you the ballot of someone other than yourself, provided you wish to risk 5 years in prison on a felony conviction in order to move an election by 1 vote. If that trade off is worth it to you I'm happy to watch you try.

5. Complaining to me about the lack of a Voter ID law is the equivalent of complaining to the cashier at McDonald's about the cost of your fries: he had nothing to do with it, he can't change it, you're only holding up his line by whining to him. The only thing you have going for you is that I, unlike the guy at McDonald's, can't spit in your ballot before you eat it.

6. The place to voice these ever so important opinions of yours is about 40 feet away from me in the actual voting booth. If you were less angry and more intelligent you would have known that before you walked in. This knowledge would have saved us both some time.

7. The next time you feel it important to occupy some portion of my day by telling me what you think, please go to Hell instead.

In summation, you are not making any significant or profound points. You are wasting everyone's time. You are a self-important pain in the ass and we are laughing at you as soon as you are out of earshot. Please redirect this righteous indignation of yours into some worthwhile cause like feeding the hungry or caring for abused animals. I assure you that what you're doing now benefits no one, least of all yourself.
2012-11-16 06:55:43 AM
6 votes:
It's never, ever, EVER a Republican losing because they were less able to convince people to vote for them, it must be evil Librul deceit. It can't possibly be that anything the Republicans have ever done has had a negative outcome. Anything bad you've ever accused the Republicans of is moot, because somewhere a Democrat once did something bad. And god help you if you try and back them into a corner over mutually contradictory beliefs or the raging hypocrisy of the religious right, you'll find yourself playing a game of intellectual Calvinball.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Party Of Personal Responsibility.
2012-11-16 07:17:42 AM
3 votes:
I eagerly await the statistics on nationwide popular vote for House representatives. It's strange that Obama won the popular vote but the GOP kept the house. Is it likely that millions of Americans voted for Obama and a Republican for Congress?

If it turns out that the GOP kept a staggering control of the house in spite of getting fewer total nationwide votes, that will demonstrate a catastrophic moral failure of gerrymandering and a tyrranical offense against democracy. We already have the Senate to trample on democracy. The House is supposed to be pure and populist. I'm sick of seeing districts that pack urban blacks, Latinos, and college students into a 90% Democrat district so Republicans can win the surrounding six districts 55:45.
2012-11-16 07:47:27 AM
2 votes:

Tommy Moo: I eagerly await the statistics on nationwide popular vote for House representatives


They're already in. The Democrats won the national popular vote for House of Representatives.

Link

The GOP House of Representatives has neither political legitimacy, nor moral authority.
2012-11-16 11:21:30 AM
1 votes:

Johnny Swank: ^ Farking this. Also a NC poll worker, and these republican "you gotta check my ID, you just gotta!" assholes are the worst. They're ignorant as hell, and just a pain in the ass in general. I'm convinced they need their ID out all the time just to remember where they actually live.


I got my ID stolen on election day and haven't had a chance to get a new one yet (have to go in person, don't have a car, can't bike or bus in time around work hours so I gotta take a day off next week) so I'm getting a kick out of awesome poll worker posts.

/did poll greeting so voted absentee anyway
//no ID req and I had it forwarded
///sigh
2012-11-16 08:40:34 AM
1 votes:

maxheck: I have nothing bad to say about most poll workers... They tend to be elderly sorts who actually give a damn, which makes me happy.


When me and the fam went a voting there was an older woman directing people. She was polite but you could tell that she was very tired and had been through a very long day.

I made sure to thank her for her efforts and she hugged me.

When we voted there was a little table with paper and crayons where the kids could color in an American flag.

Before we left I had the kids color in a flag and give it to the poll worker. The smile on her face was a mile wide.
2012-11-16 08:09:36 AM
1 votes:

born_yesterday: jayhawk88: Damn Obama and his majority of voters for continuing to subvert the will of the people!

IT'S TIME TO TAKE AMERICA BACK!!!...from the majority of American citizens, friends and neighbors, that duly elected their representatives.


I am still gobsmacked by the sheer stupidity of that slogan. Any way it's parsed, it's a losing slogan. "Taking America Back" to a time when we were attacked on our own soil. "Taking America Back" to the point where we crashed the market. "Taking America Back" to a fictional time when women knew their place and minorities were rarely seen and never heard from. "Taking America Back" from the wrong half.
2012-11-16 08:05:23 AM
1 votes:

d23: curvy brunettes


One vote for curvy brunettes.
2012-11-16 07:54:06 AM
1 votes:
Hurry and finish the recount so those reps can get busy voting against a repeal of Obamacare for the 69th time
2012-11-16 07:51:51 AM
1 votes:

Lenny and Carl: For anyone remotely interested in my poll worker CSB, I'll leave you with an open letter I penned on the subject of Voter ID laws after a particularly grueling day of working with the public.

From An Anonymous Precinct Worker, An Open Letter to Each Ticked Off Republican Voter:

1. NC State Law does not require me to see a photo ID. Quite the opposite. NC law FORBIDS me from asking for ID unless the registration requirement has not been met.

2. Nothing you have to say on the subject will change point #1. The fact that you don't like state law in no way changes state law.

3. Insisting that I "need" to check everyone's ID means that you're not only obnoxious, but ignorant of the existing law.

4. You are not the 1st person to detail how you could attempt in-person voter fraud. Your ideas are not new, they are not clever, and they are in no way relevant. In fact they are quite stupid. Should you meet the existing requirement of correctly stating a name and corresponding address I will gladly give you the ballot of someone other than yourself, provided you wish to risk 5 years in prison on a felony conviction in order to move an election by 1 vote. If that trade off is worth it to you I'm happy to watch you try.

5. Complaining to me about the lack of a Voter ID law is the equivalent of complaining to the cashier at McDonald's about the cost of your fries: he had nothing to do with it, he can't change it, you're only holding up his line by whining to him. The only thing you have going for you is that I, unlike the guy at McDonald's, can't spit in your ballot before you eat it.

6. The place to voice these ever so important opinions of yours is about 40 feet away from me in the actual voting booth. If you were less angry and more intelligent you would have known that before you walked in. This knowledge would have saved us both some time.

7. The next time you feel it important to occupy some portion of my day by telling me what you think, please go to Hell instead.

In summation, you are not making any significant or profound points. You are wasting everyone's time. You are a self-important pain in the ass and we are laughing at you as soon as you are out of earshot. Please redirect this righteous indignation of yours into some worthwhile cause like feeding the hungry or caring for abused animals. I assure you that what you're doing now benefits no one, least of all yourself.


CSB time: I voted in NC.

Since I had spent the last two years in Africa serving in the Peace Corps, I wasn't registered, and I had no proof of address other than the post-service correspondence PC mailed to me at my parents' house.

When I explained this to the poll worker, he was awesome. He was like 'No problem, we can absolutely get you set up. I can't ask you for ID, but I can tell you if you have it this process will be a lot faster. So...fast way, or slower way?'

I thought that was pretty intelligent. I was going to pull my ID anyway, but that made it that much simpler. But when the wing-nut in line next to me saw me pull it and started yelling 'VOTER FRAUD!! YOU ASKED HIM FOR ID BUT NOT ME!!' I have never wanted to cock-punch someone so much in my entire life. The poll worker looked like he was thinking that too.

There's a time and a place for ID. But if you're already registered and there's a line out the door, well...that isn't it.

/ CSB
2012-11-16 07:50:22 AM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Either Politico is unclear on the meaning of "100 percent of precincts reporting", or I am. I know this is impolitic of me, but I'm kind of hoping it's Politico, I don't really wanna have to relearn math based on the assumption that 1 =/= 1.


All the local precincts have reported. But they still need to count absentee ballots, and maybe provisional ballots.
2012-11-16 07:45:28 AM
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: I eagerly await the statistics on nationwide popular vote for House representatives. It's strange that Obama won the popular vote but the GOP kept the house. Is it likely that millions of Americans voted for Obama and a Republican for Congress?

If it turns out that the GOP kept a staggering control of the house in spite of getting fewer total nationwide votes, that will demonstrate a catastrophic moral failure of gerrymandering and a tyrranical offense against democracy. We already have the Senate to trample on democracy. The House is supposed to be pure and populist. I'm sick of seeing districts that pack urban blacks, Latinos, and college students into a 90% Democrat district so Republicans can win the surrounding six districts 55:45.


Having lived in Texas when Austin was stripped by the legislature of its congressional representation, I agree entirely. Morally, the Supreme Court ought to have rejected gerrymandering long ago, as part of "one man one vote." Politically, it will never happen. The Court used to be above the fray. Now it's just another agency of partisan politics.
2012-11-16 07:38:52 AM
1 votes:
Because Democrats won the House popular vote, and if it weren't for extensive gerrymandering they would likely have had retaken the House as well this year?

They got similar results to 08 in the White House and the Senate. They got similar vote percentages for the House, but are still down 15-20 seats. That strongly suggests a rigged system.
2012-11-16 07:36:58 AM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Either Politico is unclear on the meaning of "100 percent of precincts reporting"


Maybe they are close enough that a recount is mandatory?
2012-11-16 07:20:51 AM
1 votes:

maxheck: erik-k:

you'll find yourself playing a game of intellectual Calvinball.

Just wanted to point out, that is *entirely* the wrong way to play Calvinball.


No, someone deciding what is a wrong way to play Calvinball is the wrong way to play Calvinball.
2012-11-16 07:18:34 AM
1 votes:
Just wanted to point out, that is *entirely* the wrong way to play Calvinball.

Technically, there is no wrong way to play Calvinball. But I do see your point.
2012-11-16 06:44:24 AM
1 votes:
teabags poisoned the well
2012-11-16 05:50:51 AM
1 votes:
1. November 12th? old-news-is-so-exciting.jpg

2. The woman in the photo in TFA is set to become the first openly bisexual member of Congress. (From Arizona, no less.)

Hold my calls for the rest of the day, I'll be in my bunk.
 
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