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2012-11-16 01:25:40 AM  
What the hell, Cesar Milan attempted suicide two years ago and I'm just hearing about it now?
 
2012-11-16 01:53:58 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What the hell, Cesar Milan attempted suicide two years ago and I'm just hearing about it now?


I know right? I remember watching the show though and he was talking about his marriage and how humans are pack animals and need an alpha. What he couldnt see was the look his wife shot him when he said that. I remember then wondering how soon the divorce would be.
 
2012-11-16 02:09:38 AM  
Suicide attempt? Would not have guessed that but it happens. I really liked Daddy too so I could see that being tough on him. Daddy was awesome!
 
2012-11-16 02:31:45 AM  
FTFA : A new love in his life also helped, one whom Millan calls "the one." Jahira Dar lives with Milan and his youngest son in Los Angeles, and Millan said he planned to propose soon.

"It's a surprise," he joked. "I am a traditional guy, so I like to do the whole parent thing. I know they are going to say yes, but I like the whole Cinderella story."

Uh, it's not a surprise anymore you retard.
 
HBK
2012-11-16 02:50:05 AM  
You see a guy like that, high energy, always happy and smiling (at least on TV), and think he has his shiat together and would never kill himself.

I used to know a guy who was just like that. He never had a bad thing to say about anybody, was high energy and seemingly always happy. He asked to borrow my shoes once. Two weeks later, I hadn't seen the guy and wanted my shoes back. I asked around and it turned out the guy succeeded in his suicide attempt.

I guess you never know. You'd think that people with problems significant enough to want to end their own lives would be more outwardly sad or depressed. But I guess it doesn't always work out like that.

/never got those shoes back
//not so CSB
 
2012-11-16 02:56:45 AM  
So, he knows as much about suicide as he does about dog training?
 
2012-11-16 03:04:57 AM  
His first job was with Jada Pinkett (pre-Smith)? I wonder if he had any thetans on him.
 
2012-11-16 04:02:11 AM  

HBK: You see a guy like that, high energy, always happy and smiling (at least on TV), and think he has his shiat together and would never kill himself.

I used to know a guy who was just like that. He never had a bad thing to say about anybody, was high energy and seemingly always happy. He asked to borrow my shoes once. Two weeks later, I hadn't seen the guy and wanted my shoes back. I asked around and it turned out the guy succeeded in his suicide attempt.

I guess you never know. You'd think that people with problems significant enough to want to end their own lives would be more outwardly sad or depressed. But I guess it doesn't always work out like that.

/never got those shoes back
//not so CSB


Nice shoes? Nikes, by any chance?
 
2012-11-16 04:04:56 AM  
Eh, I thought he was gay.

/no, really. didn't you?
//not that there's anything wrong with that
 
2012-11-16 05:28:28 AM  

HBK: You see a guy like that, high energy, always happy and smiling (at least on TV), and think he has his shiat together and would never kill himself.

I used to know a guy who was just like that. He never had a bad thing to say about anybody, was high energy and seemingly always happy. He asked to borrow my shoes once. Two weeks later, I hadn't seen the guy and wanted my shoes back. I asked around and it turned out the guy succeeded in his suicide attempt.

I guess you never know. You'd think that people with problems significant enough to want to end their own lives would be more outwardly sad or depressed. But I guess it doesn't always work out like that.

/never got those shoes back
//not so CSB


21 yr old godson did that. We knew something was going to happen because his mum was a fark up. We just thought it would be stealing cars, we were wrong.

He was a great kid. He should have lived. I still can't see Mutant Ninja Turtles and remember holding him on my shoulders when he was a toddler - he was always wearing those stupid pajamas!
 
2012-11-16 05:53:48 AM  

HBK: You see a guy like that, high energy, always happy and smiling (at least on TV), and think he has his shiat together and would never kill himself.

I used to know a guy who was just like that. He never had a bad thing to say about anybody, was high energy and seemingly always happy. He asked to borrow my shoes once. Two weeks later, I hadn't seen the guy and wanted my shoes back. I asked around and it turned out the guy succeeded in his suicide attempt.

I guess you never know. You'd think that people with problems significant enough to want to end their own lives would be more outwardly sad or depressed. But I guess it doesn't always work out like that.

/never got those shoes back
//not so CSB


The obvious ones usually get help because people notice. It's the quiet ones who slip through the cracks.

AverageAmericanGuy: HBK: You see a guy like that, high energy, always happy and smiling (at least on TV), and think he has his shiat together and would never kill himself.

I used to know a guy who was just like that. He never had a bad thing to say about anybody, was high energy and seemingly always happy. He asked to borrow my shoes once. Two weeks later, I hadn't seen the guy and wanted my shoes back. I asked around and it turned out the guy succeeded in his suicide attempt.

I guess you never know. You'd think that people with problems significant enough to want to end their own lives would be more outwardly sad or depressed. But I guess it doesn't always work out like that.

/never got those shoes back
//not so CSB

Nice shoes? Nikes, by any chance?

 

Ouch
 
2012-11-16 06:14:02 AM  

SmitetheRighteous: Eh, I thought he was gay.

/no, really. didn't you?
//not that there's anything wrong with that


I thought he was too, for some reason.
 
2012-11-16 06:16:23 AM  
My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes
 
2012-11-16 06:41:05 AM  
Does this guy make salad or toss it on the dogs when they don't listen?
 
2012-11-16 06:58:14 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes


You made me laugh, Abe Vigoda's Ghost.

So I am just as evil as you are.
 
2012-11-16 07:02:58 AM  

SmitetheRighteous: Eh, I thought he was gay.

/no, really. didn't you?
//not that there's anything wrong with that


I'd have thought it, too, but for all the hyper-masculinization in Mexican culture, there is also a strong
undercurrent of sexual ambiguity (see, for example, the tradition of the 'Exotico' in Lucha LIbre;
basically they're wreslters in drag who mince around in the ring a la Gorgeous George before they
open a can of whop ass on their opponents), not to mention an acceptance of male vanity about
appearance that, even in this post-metrosexual age, just doesn't achieve the same heights here in
the US, so a Mexican 'dandy' might seem to be gay to an American when he's actually just fussy about
his appearance.
 
2012-11-16 07:14:43 AM  
WTF, you have to be a licensed professional to teach dog obedience in Texas?

TFA: 'Bonnie Beaver, a board-certified veterinary behaviorist in Texas, said he mishandles animals and that he is losing credibility because "in some situations, he is actually making a diagnosis."

"He may not even recognize he is making a diagnosis," she said, adding that when he says a dog has separation anxiety or dominance problems, "he's putting a label on it and in reality that label is a diagnosis."

In California, that is legal, but in Texas it is not, she said, because "making a diagnosis and setting up a course of treatment is restricted to certain professionals."'
 
2012-11-16 07:27:48 AM  

jaytkay: WTF, you have to be a licensed professional to teach dog obedience in Texas?

TFA: 'Bonnie Beaver, a board-certified veterinary behaviorist in Texas, said he mishandles animals and that he is losing credibility because "in some situations, he is actually making a diagnosis."

"He may not even recognize he is making a diagnosis," she said, adding that when he says a dog has separation anxiety or dominance problems, "he's putting a label on it and in reality that label is a diagnosis."

In California, that is legal, but in Texas it is not, she said, because "making a diagnosis and setting up a course of treatment is restricted to certain professionals."'


Union workers of a different cadre.
 
2012-11-16 08:06:49 AM  
but is he illegal?! he crossed the border legally or not?

/ love the comments in the link
/ I thought he had a lot of good life lessons, not just dog ones. the whole thing about not letting frustration take over how you deal with a problem... pretty much useful in every situation, not just with dogs
 
2012-11-16 08:44:53 AM  
That fact that he is heterosexual proves you can judge a swish by its saunter.
 
2012-11-16 09:29:59 AM  
waitwaitwaitwaitwait.................................................. ...............he's not gay? or is the article using "she" in the colloquially way the gay community sometimes refer to themselves? Seems a bit presumptuous of the author to take that liberty if that is the case.
 
2012-11-16 09:35:50 AM  
I remember reading in one of his early books about Cesar and his wife going to marriage therapy.
I guess it didn't take.

/Maybe one of them had to say "sit" or "stay" once too often...
 
2012-11-16 09:38:43 AM  
I only saw his show a few times, but I immediately picked up on how it was almost never the dog's problem, it was the owners who were the problem.

Shee-it, you can see how many kids "fall through the cracks" and have parents who fark them up and they never get any help for it. They're everywhere. Now imagine that all those farked-up people get pets and fark them up equally, and those animals are certainly never going to get any help for it. Not unless the owners do something like chain them up in the yard and starve them to death...maybe someone would notice. And farked-up people are notorious for latching onto anything that they can love, and that will love them back. So they all have pets....maybe lots of pets. No wonder Cesar tried to kill himself. I want to kill myself sometimes just looking at the human race.

/I just thought I'd cheer everyone up this morning.
 
2012-11-16 10:01:38 AM  
I always wondered, do they every follow up on the people they've helped? Say one or two years after? Is everything still OK, or has everyone fallen back into their old patterns?
 
2012-11-16 10:04:58 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes


Simply amazing. Can't stop laughing.
 
2012-11-16 10:09:34 AM  
Wow, that's a lot of pressure to put on the new fiance. "The last time a woman left me, I tried to kill myself. But now that you're in my life, I feel so much better. You'll never leave me, will you? Will you??"

Also, Betty Beaver. **snort**
 
2012-11-16 10:10:49 AM  

namegoeshere: Also, Betty Beaver. **snort**


BONNIE Beaver.

FTFM. Still lulz.
 
2012-11-16 10:26:49 AM  

nanim: I remember reading in one of his early books about Cesar and his wife going to marriage therapy.
I guess it didn't take.

/Maybe one of them had to say "sit" or "stay" once too often...


Everyone assumes that marriage councilling will fix the marriage, but sometimes you come to the conclusion that you aren't meant to be together.
 
2012-11-16 10:44:35 AM  

Neondistraction: SmitetheRighteous: Eh, I thought he was gay.

/no, really. didn't you?
//not that there's anything wrong with that

I thought he was too, for some reason.


I did until I saw one of the episodes where there was one owner with absurdly large tits, the camera kept catching him staring at her breasteses.......I remember thinking "guess he is straight....."

All those people biatching about how he abuses animals are insane, he takes only the most difficult cases so most of those dogs are hard to deal with and you have to use a firm hand. If you have an animal from a young puppy they are easy to deal with because they don't reflect their owners anxiety yet.
 
2012-11-16 10:53:15 AM  

SmitetheRighteous: Eh, I thought he was gay.

/no, really. didn't you?
//not that there's anything wrong with that


I thought that part of this story is that he would finally come out as gay.

/guess not
 
2012-11-16 11:06:55 AM  
February; a month later, he learned his wife of 16 years

Holy balls, he's straight? I'd have lost a lot of money on that bet.
 
2012-11-16 11:17:09 AM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: FTFA : A new love in his life also helped, one whom Millan calls "the one." Jahira Dar lives with Milan and his youngest son in Los Angeles, and Millan said he planned to propose soon.

"It's a surprise," he joked. "I am a traditional guy, so I like to do the whole parent thing. I know they are going to say yes, but I like the whole Cinderella story."

Uh, it's not a surprise anymore you retard.


You can't actually be that retarded can you?
 
2012-11-16 11:51:12 AM  
I saw that guy in an OSH hardware store in Santa Clarita not long ago. He's very deserving of a cock punch. Something about him grates on my nerves.
 
2012-11-16 12:00:39 PM  

You Are All Sheep: jaytkay: WTF, you have to be a licensed professional to teach dog obedience in Texas?

TFA: 'Bonnie Beaver, a board-certified veterinary behaviorist in Texas, said he mishandles animals and that he is losing credibility because "in some situations, he is actually making a diagnosis."

"He may not even recognize he is making a diagnosis," she said, adding that when he says a dog has separation anxiety or dominance problems, "he's putting a label on it and in reality that label is a diagnosis."

In California, that is legal, but in Texas it is not, she said, because "making a diagnosis and setting up a course of treatment is restricted to certain professionals."'

Union workers of a different cadre.


Yep, you need your Animal Psychologist PHd and be licensed by the state to say that a dog that is shaking and hiding is nervous.*

* You aren't allowed to read this if you are in Texas...
 
2012-11-16 12:10:25 PM  

Malcolm_Sex: 7th Son of a 7th Son: FTFA : A new love in his life also helped, one whom Millan calls "the one." Jahira Dar lives with Milan and his youngest son in Los Angeles, and Millan said he planned to propose soon.

"It's a surprise," he joked. "I am a traditional guy, so I like to do the whole parent thing. I know they are going to say yes, but I like the whole Cinderella story."

Uh, it's not a surprise anymore you retard.

You can't actually be that retarded can you?


I think he was speaking more to the surprise being for the future fiancée, not for the parents.

/Have some coffee or something, you seem cranky
 
2012-11-16 12:58:49 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes


I heart you so much. Nice to see you again.
 
2012-11-16 02:08:04 PM  
he's a great man, i'm glad he didn't succeed!
 
2012-11-16 02:20:18 PM  
Bonnie Beaver????

From Dictionary.com:

bonnie

adjective
very pleasing to the eye; "my bonny lass"; "there's a bonny bay beyond"; "a comely face"; "young fair maidens" [syn: bonny]

Comely Beaver? CLASSIC!!!
 
2012-11-16 02:59:43 PM  
My wife and I are huge fans of him and the show. This is really really sad news. He seems like such a "rock" of a person. His divorce was unbelievable when that came out. Pretty sad.

/when we first started watching I could tell he was into martial arts by the way he moved and shook people's hands
//looked it up; Judo
/I'm like Napolean Dynamite, yo
 
2012-11-16 03:22:35 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What the hell, Cesar Milan attempted suicide two years ago and I'm just hearing about it now?


You didn't hear about it because he didn't succeed.
 
2012-11-16 03:25:50 PM  
I bet he puts his fingers in all the dog's asses.
 
2012-11-16 03:33:26 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: I saw that guy in an OSH hardware store in Santa Clarita not long ago. He's very deserving of a cock punch. Something about him grates on my nerves.


Yeah, he likes dogs. The NERVE. You should have not only cockpunched him, you should have given him a lecture about how human lives are infinitely more valuable than any dog's life. Then you should have kicked his dog on the way out, just to show him.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:02 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes


Man, if I'd known stealing those shoes was going to cause this much heartbreak I'd have never done.

F*cking shoes.
 
2012-11-16 04:50:32 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes

Man, if I'd known stealing those shoes was going to cause this much heartbreak I'd have never done.

F*cking shoes.


Was just walking under the underpass and the shoes fell on me. Now I gotta dig these holes. Dig the holes.
 
2012-11-16 04:59:49 PM  

cryinoutloud: I only saw his show a few times, but I immediately picked up on how it was almost never the dog's problem, it was the owners who were the problem.

Shee-it, you can see how many kids "fall through the cracks" and have parents who fark them up and they never get any help for it. They're everywhere. Now imagine that all those farked-up people get pets and fark them up equally, and those animals are certainly never going to get any help for it. Not unless the owners do something like chain them up in the yard and starve them to death...maybe someone would notice. And farked-up people are notorious for latching onto anything that they can love, and that will love them back. So they all have pets....maybe lots of pets. No wonder Cesar tried to kill himself. I want to kill myself sometimes just looking at the human race.

/I just thought I'd cheer everyone up this morning.


It's the same thing with My Cat From Hell. In almost every single case, the owners suck. They don't have any cat toys. They didn't spay/neuter their cat. They don't have any cat furniture. They don't play with their cat. I've seen exactly one episode where the cat had a thyroid issue and needed drugs (which Jackson suspected and told them to take the cat in for some bloodwork). All the rest are because people want the cute fluffy animals without having to cater to the cat's needs.
 
2012-11-16 08:01:14 PM  

legion_of_doo: but is he illegal?! he crossed the border legally or not?

/ love the comments in the link
/ I thought he had a lot of good life lessons, not just dog ones. the whole thing about not letting frustration take over how you deal with a problem... pretty much useful in every situation, not just with dogs


he crossed the border illegally, so he was an illegal alien for a while. His residency and later citizenship status changed when he married his wife.
 
2012-11-16 08:03:02 PM  

Malcolm_Sex: 7th Son of a 7th Son: FTFA : A new love in his life also helped, one whom Millan calls "the one." Jahira Dar lives with Milan and his youngest son in Los Angeles, and Millan said he planned to propose soon.

"It's a surprise," he joked. "I am a traditional guy, so I like to do the whole parent thing. I know they are going to say yes, but I like the whole Cinderella story."

Uh, it's not a surprise anymore you retard.

You can't actually be that retarded can you?


yeah, the "he joked" part kind of implied he was...joking.
 
HBK
2012-11-18 12:42:54 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Nice shoes? Nikes, by any chance?


They were nice shoes. Asics Gutches wrestling shoes back in 2002, they were about $90 new and I was 18 at the time making $7/hour at a grocery store, so I was pretty upset about the whole thing.

Now it looks like they're worth $200 used.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: My brother was always a happy guy. He was always smiling and making jokes, just a blast to be around. So one day he calls me really upset about about something. He was making a big deal about losing a friends shoes he had borrowed. I guess I should have helped him find those shoes.
Next day, he was gone.
Those f*cking shoes.

Someday I'm going to find out who loaned him those f*cking shoes


Damnit, I shouldn't be laughing at this, but I can't stop.

But seriously, it was sad and I was young so it was my first experience with suicide. I asked the coach at the gym, "so... do I call his family or something?" and the coach said, "Jesus HBK, let the damned shoes go!"
 
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