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(BBC)   Study suggests using parasitic worms to treat diarrhea -- although that might open up a brand new can of worms   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 23
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2012-11-16 12:56:31 AM
FTFA: "Inflammatory bowel diseases, like colitis, are often fuelled by a wrongly targeted response by the immune system to gut bacteria." This statement is ill-informed at best. We do not know what causes Crohn's or colitis, except that gut bacteria *might* have something to do with it. It is definitely autoimmune in origin, but gut bacteria have not been demonstrated to be the sole or primary cause.
 
2012-11-16 01:12:07 AM
That study is full of shiat.
 
2012-11-16 01:21:22 AM
Sounds like it could explode on to the medical seen if it holds together long enough.
 
2012-11-16 01:37:39 AM
oyster.ignimgs.com
Would like a word....
 
2012-11-16 01:51:28 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 02:02:30 AM
meh, I could eat I guess.

I'm not really hungry,
but my tapeworm is starving!

/convenient thing is, when you want to get rid of them, just fast for 24 hours and then lay down naked with a cup of milk next to your ass. They come out all by themselves!
 
2012-11-16 02:21:09 AM
No, MurphyMurphy, that's how you get rid of trolls.
 
2012-11-16 02:32:53 AM
Parasitic worms you say?

media.giantbomb.com

What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-11-16 02:48:32 AM

InspectorZero: FTFA: "Inflammatory bowel diseases, like colitis, are often fuelled by a wrongly targeted response by the immune system to gut bacteria." This statement is ill-informed at best. We do not know what causes Crohn's or colitis, except that gut bacteria *might* have something to do with it. It is definitely autoimmune in origin, but gut bacteria have not been demonstrated to be the sole or primary cause.


This is what happens when scientists blow through experiments and run to publish their results. They just trot out their conclusions in order to squirt out another publication. It's this type of intellectual quickstepping that is responsible for the leakage of integrity in academics. Havana omelet.
 
2012-11-16 04:02:30 AM
I am really upset that this information about the 'old friends' theory (which was Boobiesulated in 1980 and in hindsight seems truly obvious) took 30 years to get into the mainstream. If I (or my doctors) had known this only ten years ago I might very well have saved myself the trouble of seven surgeries, an ostomy, a painkiller addiction, some ptsd, and a well-deserved loathing for my continued existence.
 
2012-11-16 04:03:32 AM

kazikian: I am really upset that this information about the 'old friends' theory (which was Boobiesulated in 1980 and in hindsight seems truly obvious) took 30 years to get into the mainstream. If I (or my doctors) had known this only ten years ago I might very well have saved myself the trouble of seven surgeries, an ostomy, a painkiller addiction, some ptsd, and a well-deserved loathing for my continued existence.


Nice work, filter. That's pretty funny shiat.
 
2012-11-16 05:39:30 AM
news.bbcimg.co.uk
That monkey looks like it is thinking "oops, I think I just shiat myself".
 
2012-11-16 07:55:21 AM
Not again!
danielmclaren.com
 
2012-11-16 08:06:02 AM
There was this guy who was on This American Life (via Radiolab) who purposely infected himself with hookworms. Interesting but unscientific
 
2012-11-16 08:45:33 AM
Please, please, PLEASE do not let them name the worm "Morris" during testing!!!
 
2012-11-16 08:59:17 AM
so there is a use for lawyers and politicians after all.

/ the more you know.jpg
 
2012-11-16 09:19:28 AM
Get some cabbage, carrots, white onion, some garlic, peppercorns, mustard seed. Put them in a jar, pour a brine solution of 1 round Tblspoon of sea salt per 2 cups of FILTERED or DISTILLED water. make sure the liquid covers all the vegetables. Put an airlock on the jar. Put in a dark cabinet at around 74 degrees for 4 or 5 days. Take airlock off, put on regular canning lid, place jar in refrigerator. Consume.

Your gut will thank you.

/lacto fermenation. google it and watch it on youtube before you try it
 
2012-11-16 09:27:25 AM

InspectorZero: FTFA: "Inflammatory bowel diseases, like colitis, are often fuelled by a wrongly targeted response by the immune system to gut bacteria." This statement is ill-informed at best. We do not know what causes Crohn's or colitis, except that gut bacteria *might* have something to do with it. It is definitely autoimmune in origin, but gut bacteria have not been demonstrated to be the sole or primary cause.


They're not that far off the mark, actually. The entire basis of helminth therapy is that the immune system is using the wrong kind of response to gut pathogens and the imbalance causes too much inflammation in the intestines, which leads to autoimmunity.

What is up for debate is how the gut bacteria affect this balance. There's some evidence that just having the wrong kind of bacteria in your gut (or an absence of the right kind) can result in that disregulation.

Of course, autoimmune conditions are a lot like cancer. They're describing a result, but the origins can be diverse and multifaceted.

/Immunologist
 
M-G
2012-11-16 10:29:31 AM
Can't seem to find the clip on their site, but Monsters Inside Me covered a person who had some kind of bowel condition that was kept in check by a parasitic worm.
 
2012-11-16 03:43:10 PM
With all of the research into the benefits of these kind of worms (in a controlled amount) maybe we change the descriptions to Symbiont instead of parasites.

Also i would love to get in on a test with these to deal with my allergies.
 
2012-11-16 11:01:30 PM
as someone who had a nasty bout of diarrhea caused by parasitic worms, I am getting a kick.....
 
2012-11-17 02:48:56 AM

hstein3: InspectorZero: FTFA: "Inflammatory bowel diseases, like colitis, are often fuelled by a wrongly targeted response by the immune system to gut bacteria." This statement is ill-informed at best. We do not know what causes Crohn's or colitis, except that gut bacteria *might* have something to do with it. It is definitely autoimmune in origin, but gut bacteria have not been demonstrated to be the sole or primary cause.

They're not that far off the mark, actually. The entire basis of helminth therapy is that the immune system is using the wrong kind of response to gut pathogens and the imbalance causes too much inflammation in the intestines, which leads to autoimmunity.

What is up for debate is how the gut bacteria affect this balance. There's some evidence that just having the wrong kind of bacteria in your gut (or an absence of the right kind) can result in that disregulation.

Of course, autoimmune conditions are a lot like cancer. They're describing a result, but the origins can be diverse and multifaceted.

/Immunologist


I believe it's "molecular mimicry." I got sick after a case of food poisoning from bad shrimp. So what if there was a bacteria on the shrimp that had a protein structure similar to some other "good" bacteria, or even the lining of the colon itself. Body creates antibodies, which kill off the bad bacteria, and then go after the next thing that looks right. Boom, colitis. What do you think?

/not an immunologist
 
2012-11-19 06:40:05 PM
kazikian 2012-11-16 04:02:30 AM

I am really upset that this information about the 'old friends' theory .... took 30 years to get into the mainstream. If I (or my doctors) had known this only ten years ago I might very well have saved myself the trouble of seven surgeries, an ostomy, a painkiller addiction, some ptsd, and a well-deserved loathing for my continued existence.

:(

[kitty offers heartfelt sympathy]
 
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