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2012-11-16 01:16:48 AM  
If the kid dressed up as Santa would it be okay for them to sit on his lap? If they kept their clothes on and didn't perform sexual acts or kiss the kids, what all can the cops do? Cops sort of admit that though.

The teens and dancers aren't targets, he said, but child endangerment is among the potential charges faced by any adults who organized the party. Also, the bowling alley's liquor license could be revoked if it knowingly allowed the exotic dancing or served alcohol to anyone under age, he said.

In addition to endangering, Murphy said there could be charges of unlawfully dealing with a child if kids were served alcohol and misdemeanor sexual abuse if it's learned either of the dancers was touched through their skimpy clothing.
 
2012-11-16 01:17:04 AM  
It's a parents perogative if they want their kid exposed to that, but in general I gotta say, so the fark what. By 16, unless he's a WoW/Fark poster living in the basement, that's not even close to being the first time that kid has seen a naked female in person. I'm surprise the local high school girls weren't the ones giving the lapdances.
 
2012-11-16 01:18:16 AM  
Murphy said there could be charges of ... misdemeanor sexual abuse if it's learned either of the dancers was touched through their skimpy clothing.


That's a laugher. Who is charged? The boys for touching one of the dancers (who are obviously going to press charges)? Or the dancers, because a poor underaged victim touched one of them?

No victim no crime, move on.
 
2012-11-16 01:19:35 AM  
These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.
 
2012-11-16 01:21:10 AM  
The one with her legs around the boy's head has all her cellulite blurred out
 
2012-11-16 01:23:59 AM  
Who gives a shiat.
 
2012-11-16 01:25:59 AM  
oh ffs, you wanna turn em into a bunch of poofters?

Let the boys have their strippers and find something else to cry about.

People wonder why so many kids turn deviant? Well, maybe if you let them release some of the hormones they have bottled up in NATURAL HEALTHY WAY like, oh ... I dont know... WITH SLEEZY STRIPPER LAP DANCES maybe they'd stop kicking the dog, butt chugging, listening to Serena Gomalez and whatever else these kids do today.

Jesus Jimminy, that's why we had train tracks back in our day!!!

So each side could walk across to the other side of em to find some Protestant hussies to smoke lucky strikes with, maybe get lucky with a beehive bristle job below the ol' onion buckle.
 
2012-11-16 01:27:20 AM  
some day people will catch on to collecting cell phones before fun time. obviously there is an idiot in every crowd.
 
2012-11-16 01:30:33 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.


True. They should not be able to legally purchase the legal services of a dancing agency that provides services deemed legal an non-pornographic by the local community. Nuke the city from orbit for morality crimes.
 
2012-11-16 01:31:33 AM  
Are the parents upset? If no, then STFU.

Random "people" shouldn't be allowed to complain, especially if the kids are 16 and up.
 
2012-11-16 01:40:17 AM  
Yeah I'm not seeing the problem here. If the kids were served booze that's one thing (I guess, legally anyway) but I'm sure there's some other law involved, we are talking about California here.
 
2012-11-16 01:40:27 AM  
really???? this is farking news? it's not even fark
 
2012-11-16 01:41:07 AM  

Blue_Blazer: Yeah I'm not seeing the problem here. If the kids were served booze that's one thing (I guess, legally anyway) but I'm sure there's some other law involved, we are talking about California here.


Strippers contain carcinogens and must carry a warning sticker at all times.
 
2012-11-16 01:41:10 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Are the parents upset? If no, then STFU.

Random "people" shouldn't be allowed to complain, especially if the kids are 16 and up.


Those children may have been sexually and morally abused you heathen!

Whomever reported this to the police should have their ass kicked.
 
2012-11-16 01:41:28 AM  

BoxOfBees: The one with her legs around the boy's head has all her cellulite blurred out


Better picture here

I'd hotlink it but I'm not sure it's SFW.
 
2012-11-16 01:42:06 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.


Like having a good time.
 
2012-11-16 01:45:37 AM  
I'll bet there was issue.
 
2012-11-16 01:46:43 AM  
If I had got a lap dance from an "exotic dancer" at age 16 I would have had an "issue" with it -- in a less common sense of the word. And there'd be a thoroughly disgusted dancer in the bathroom washing off her thighs.

[jizzedinmypants.jpg]
 
2012-11-16 01:47:48 AM  

Blue_Blazer: Yeah I'm not seeing the problem here. If the kids were served booze that's one thing (I guess, legally anyway) but I'm sure there's some other law involved, we are talking about California here


We are?

SOUTH GLENS FALLS, N.Y. (AP) - Exotic dancers performed lap dances on teenagers at a boy's surprise 16th birthday party in an upstate New York village, police said
 
2012-11-16 01:51:41 AM  
Meh.
Some of my male students in Thailand wrote about their favorite custom.
When they turned 16, their uncles took them to the local whore house for an introduction to the yeasty gates of delight.
 
2012-11-16 01:53:43 AM  
This kind of stuff (keg parties, strippers) is only really exciting when you're sixteen.
 
2012-11-16 01:55:52 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-16 02:02:08 AM  
In before "I wish that happened to me when I was a kid!!" oh no, I'm not.
 
2012-11-16 02:07:25 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.


Not sure if you are trolling here... 16 year old boys do not lack the maturity to decide if they want to dance, which is all this was.

/well, all this was was a stick in the mud old person who didnt understand what they were seeing when they saw it.
 
2012-11-16 02:07:32 AM  
i1127.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 02:10:15 AM  

MurphyMurphy: oh ffs, you wanna turn em into a bunch of poofters?

Let the boys have their strippers and find something else to cry about.

People wonder why so many kids turn deviant? Well, maybe if you let them release some of the hormones they have bottled up in NATURAL HEALTHY WAY like, oh ... I dont know... WITH SLEEZY STRIPPER LAP DANCES maybe they'd stop kicking the dog, butt chugging, listening to Serena Gomalez and whatever else these kids do today.

Jesus Jimminy, that's why we had train tracks back in our day!!!

So each side could walk across to the other side of em to find some Protestant hussies to smoke lucky strikes with, maybe get lucky with a beehive bristle job below the ol' onion buckle.


When in the heck are the old farkers gonna realize that gays are born--not made? Kids do not turn "deviant" --they are born gay.
And as for permitting 16 year old boys to have a party--nope on the alcohol--fine with the strippers. Male or female whichever they may prefer.
 
2012-11-16 02:18:46 AM  
When young girls and boys are old enough, they're gonna.

Any parent who thinks otherwise is a dmmm fool.

Come on...I was playing pants down doctor with the neighborhood girls before I was eight.
 
2012-11-16 02:19:29 AM  

Bronzemom: When in the heck are the old farkers gonna realize that gays are born--not made? Kids do not turn "deviant" --they are born gay.


A common socially accepted idea, but not even close to being proven physiologically.
 
2012-11-16 02:20:46 AM  

Have nothing to contribute but this...

BEST PARTY EVER !
 
2012-11-16 02:26:09 AM  
I've known more than a few dancers, and not one of them was exotic.
 
2012-11-16 02:26:13 AM  
Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?
 
2012-11-16 02:26:52 AM  

taurusowner: Bronzemom: When in the heck are the old farkers gonna realize that gays are born--not made? Kids do not turn "deviant" --they are born gay.

A common socially accepted idea, but not even close to being proven physiologically.


I was only joking.

/except on the 'let 16y/o's have strippers' part, that I agree with
 
2012-11-16 02:27:31 AM  

Mock26: Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?


Where?
 
2012-11-16 02:27:58 AM  

Krieghund: Blue_Blazer: Yeah I'm not seeing the problem here. If the kids were served booze that's one thing (I guess, legally anyway) but I'm sure there's some other law involved, we are talking about California here

We are?

SOUTH GLENS FALLS, N.Y. (AP) - Exotic dancers performed lap dances on teenagers at a boy's surprise 16th birthday party in an upstate New York village, police said


Saw the SFGate tag and didn't RTFA, apparently.
 
2012-11-16 02:29:49 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-16 02:31:26 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-16 02:36:32 AM  

Christian Bale: Murphy said there could be charges of ... misdemeanor sexual abuse if it's learned either of the dancers was touched through their skimpy clothing.


That's a laugher. Who is charged? The boys for touching one of the dancers (who are obviously going to press charges)? Or the dancers, because a poor underaged victim touched one of them?

No victim no crime, move on.


Came to say exactly this.
A horny teenager touches a dancer wearing skimpy clothing and the dancer gets charged with a crime? Lol wat??
 
2012-11-16 02:38:23 AM  
Really? What kind of 16 year old guy do you think wouldn't enjoy having exotic dancers for his party? In what ways is this kid being "endangered" by having sexy women dancing around? Who honestly thinks that a modern day teen of the year 2012 hasn't seen naked women and porn yet? Who here sincerely believes that a teenager wouldn't like to touch or view sexy women?

The only way this thing could be wrong is if the guy was actually gay, so he wouldn't really get anything out of sexy exotic dancing women. They should've brought him macho dancers instead. Still, this wouldn't be wrong because a gay teen guy probably feels the same way about macho dancers that we straight guys feel when we see sexy women dancers around.

That teenage boy probably jacks off every chance he gets and he considers his birthday with the sexy dancers the best ever! No harm done!
 
2012-11-16 02:43:04 AM  

MurphyMurphy: oh ffs, you wanna turn em into a bunch of poofters?

Let the boys have their strippers and find something else to cry about.

People wonder why so many kids turn deviant? Well, maybe if you let them release some of the hormones they have bottled up in NATURAL HEALTHY WAY like, oh ... I dont know... WITH SLEEZY STRIPPER LAP DANCES maybe they'd stop kicking the dog, butt chugging, listening to Serena Gomalez and whatever else these kids do today.


MurphyMurphy's Sleazy Strippers. 100% Natural, 80% Organic.

/Hehehe
 
2012-11-16 02:43:16 AM  

0Icky0: Some of my male students in Thailand wrote about their favorite custom.
When they turned 16, their uncles took them to the local whore house for an introduction to the yeasty gates of delight.


Wise custom that. If I had a son I'd definitely have him serviced soon after he started wacking regularly. Pent up libido drives schoolboys to distraction -- literally. They need to get laid promptly and thoroughly so they can get their heads right and focus on more important things and put sex in perspective rather than aspire to it as though it were some ultimate indulgence. If you don't get your boys laid, they'll spend years training their dong to be turned on by top-shelf women doing stuff that they watch on YouPorn. What they need is to get their hands on a real woman before they can develop bad habits and unrealistic expectations.

If we followed that custom in the U.S., American boys would be happier, better behaved, perform better in school, and make better boyfriends. The video game industry would take a hit though, so we'd have to take the bad with the good.
 
2012-11-16 02:45:31 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.


Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

Age of Consent is 16 or less in the majority of states as well as in Federal law.
 
2012-11-16 02:48:09 AM  

ShannonKW: 0Icky0: Some of my male students in Thailand wrote about their favorite custom.
When they turned 16, their uncles took them to the local whore house for an introduction to the yeasty gates of delight.

Wise custom that. If I had a son I'd definitely have him serviced soon after he started wacking regularly. Pent up libido drives schoolboys to distraction -- literally. They need to get laid promptly and thoroughly so they can get their heads right and focus on more important things and put sex in perspective rather than aspire to it as though it were some ultimate indulgence. If you don't get your boys laid, they'll spend years training their dong to be turned on by top-shelf women doing stuff that they watch on YouPorn. What they need is to get their hands on a real woman before they can develop bad habits and unrealistic expectations.

If we followed that custom in the U.S., American boys would be happier, better behaved, perform better in school, and make better boyfriends. The video game industry would take a hit though, so we'd have to take the bad with the good.


You know, I think there's a lot of truth there.
 
2012-11-16 02:54:43 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Mock26: Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?

Where?


D'oh. Stupid misfiring synapses.
 
2012-11-16 02:55:43 AM  

GreenSun: Really? What kind of 16 year old guy do you think wouldn't enjoy having exotic dancers for his party? In what ways is this kid being "endangered" by having sexy women dancing around? Who honestly thinks that a modern day teen of the year 2012 hasn't seen naked women and porn yet? Who here sincerely believes that a teenager wouldn't like to touch or view sexy women?

The only way this thing could be wrong is if the guy was actually gay, so he wouldn't really get anything out of sexy exotic dancing women. They should've brought him macho dancers instead. Still, this wouldn't be wrong because a gay teen guy probably feels the same way about macho dancers that we straight guys feel when we see sexy women dancers around.

That teenage boy probably jacks off every chance he gets and he considers his birthday with the sexy dancers the best ever! No harm done!


Where, then, do you propose that we draw the line?
 
2012-11-16 03:04:51 AM  

Mock26: GreenSun: Really? What kind of 16 year old guy do you think wouldn't enjoy having exotic dancers for his party? In what ways is this kid being "endangered" by having sexy women dancing around? Who honestly thinks that a modern day teen of the year 2012 hasn't seen naked women and porn yet? Who here sincerely believes that a teenager wouldn't like to touch or view sexy women?

The only way this thing could be wrong is if the guy was actually gay, so he wouldn't really get anything out of sexy exotic dancing women. They should've brought him macho dancers instead. Still, this wouldn't be wrong because a gay teen guy probably feels the same way about macho dancers that we straight guys feel when we see sexy women dancers around.

That teenage boy probably jacks off every chance he gets and he considers his birthday with the sexy dancers the best ever! No harm done!

Where, then, do you propose that we draw the line?


What line?
 
2012-11-16 03:08:33 AM  

taurusowner: ShannonKW: 0Icky0: Some of my male students in Thailand wrote about their favorite custom.
When they turned 16, their uncles took them to the local whore house for an introduction to the yeasty gates of delight.

Wise custom that. If I had a son I'd definitely have him serviced soon after he started wacking regularly. Pent up libido drives schoolboys to distraction -- literally. They need to get laid promptly and thoroughly so they can get their heads right and focus on more important things and put sex in perspective rather than aspire to it as though it were some ultimate indulgence. If you don't get your boys laid, they'll spend years training their dong to be turned on by top-shelf women doing stuff that they watch on YouPorn. What they need is to get their hands on a real woman before they can develop bad habits and unrealistic expectations.

If we followed that custom in the U.S., American boys would be happier, better behaved, perform better in school, and make better boyfriends. The video game industry would take a hit though, so we'd have to take the bad with the good.

You know, I think there's a lot of truth there.


One problem - It's illegal in Thailand as well. It's basically organized crime.
Source - Warning PDF file.
 
2012-11-16 03:12:48 AM  

taurusowner: Mock26: GreenSun: Really? What kind of 16 year old guy do you think wouldn't enjoy having exotic dancers for his party? In what ways is this kid being "endangered" by having sexy women dancing around? Who honestly thinks that a modern day teen of the year 2012 hasn't seen naked women and porn yet? Who here sincerely believes that a teenager wouldn't like to touch or view sexy women?

The only way this thing could be wrong is if the guy was actually gay, so he wouldn't really get anything out of sexy exotic dancing women. They should've brought him macho dancers instead. Still, this wouldn't be wrong because a gay teen guy probably feels the same way about macho dancers that we straight guys feel when we see sexy women dancers around.

That teenage boy probably jacks off every chance he gets and he considers his birthday with the sexy dancers the best ever! No harm done!

Where, then, do you propose that we draw the line?

What line?


Can't see the line, can ya, Russ? (Possibly NSFW)
 
2012-11-16 03:18:18 AM  

taurusowner: By 16, unless he's a WoW/Fark poster living in the basement, that's not even close to being the first time that kid has seen a naked female in person. I'm surprise the local high school girls weren't the ones giving the lapdances.


Sure, we were superstuds among nympho sluts in high school. We couldn't even see the blackboard past all the bare bewbs and pulsating, oiled bodies of algebra class. I "lost it" to the entire cheerleading squad at age 14.

But no, most 16 year old boys have not seen one in person, much less touched one, much less had one straddle their face in a G-string. (A priest or Boy Scout leader, sure, but not a female.)

I know, it's surprising but pr0n films, teen sex comedies, and our own lives do not reflect the common high school experience. Go figure.
 
2012-11-16 03:19:45 AM  

taurusowner: Mock26: GreenSun: Really? What kind of 16 year old guy do you think wouldn't enjoy having exotic dancers for his party? In what ways is this kid being "endangered" by having sexy women dancing around? Who honestly thinks that a modern day teen of the year 2012 hasn't seen naked women and porn yet? Who here sincerely believes that a teenager wouldn't like to touch or view sexy women?

The only way this thing could be wrong is if the guy was actually gay, so he wouldn't really get anything out of sexy exotic dancing women. They should've brought him macho dancers instead. Still, this wouldn't be wrong because a gay teen guy probably feels the same way about macho dancers that we straight guys feel when we see sexy women dancers around.

That teenage boy probably jacks off every chance he gets and he considers his birthday with the sexy dancers the best ever! No harm done!

Where, then, do you propose that we draw the line?

What line?


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 03:21:07 AM  
Meh. My brothers got me laid when I turned 14. I turned out ok. I'm not quite onion belt status, but I understand now why you want kids to stay off your lawn.
 
2012-11-16 03:28:17 AM  

clyph: AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.

Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

Age of Consent is 16 or less in the majority of states as well as in some Federal laws.


FTFY. Your basic point is correct, and I was going to raise that myself, but then I noticed that in NY it's 17. So it would have been OK in NJ, but in NY... OMG! The snowflake was traumatized!
 
2012-11-16 03:39:41 AM  

Mock26: Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?


Are the parents OK with it? If so, then STFU.

Random people should not be allowed to complain.
 
2012-11-16 03:43:15 AM  
Better the children learn this stuff early, under supervision.
 
2012-11-16 03:44:39 AM  

Mock26: Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?


If my 16 year old daughter wanted a male stripper, I'd have to wonder if there wasn't some mistake at the hospital.

/Such as why they gave me one. I went in for a broken arm.
 
2012-11-16 03:52:17 AM  

Blue_Blazer: I'm sure there's some other law involved, we are talking about California here.


*Shrug* So what if it's California?
This stuff is usually governed by county laws, and conservative states seem to be much stricter about this stuff. Houston and Louisville have been in the news for not allowing any nudity, not even bare breasts, and in Louisville (dunno about Houston) they cannot serve alcohol at all and must close at 1am. Meanwhile, here in San Diego we still have fully nude clubs, or topless ones that serve alcohol.
 
2012-11-16 04:10:54 AM  

taurusowner: ShannonKW: 0Icky0: Some of my male students in Thailand wrote about their favorite custom.
When they turned 16, their uncles took them to the local whore house for an introduction to the yeasty gates of delight.

Wise custom that. If I had a son I'd definitely have him serviced soon after he started wacking regularly. Pent up libido drives schoolboys to distraction -- literally. They need to get laid promptly and thoroughly so they can get their heads right and focus on more important things and put sex in perspective rather than aspire to it as though it were some ultimate indulgence. If you don't get your boys laid, they'll spend years training their dong to be turned on by top-shelf women doing stuff that they watch on YouPorn. What they need is to get their hands on a real woman before they can develop bad habits and unrealistic expectations.

If we followed that custom in the U.S., American boys would be happier, better behaved, perform better in school, and make better boyfriends. The video game industry would take a hit though, so we'd have to take the bad with the good.

You know, I think there's a lot of truth there.


That just makes too much sense. Happy, well adjusted people that don't have shame and guilt about their sexuality? Won't somebody think of the Church?
 
2012-11-16 04:11:59 AM  

CrispFlows: One problem - It's illegal in Thailand as well. It's basically organized crime.


One suspects at a website named onlinewomeninpolitics.org might have be a poor source for this. On the topic of letting your son imbibe of spirits, the Womens' Christian Temperance Union would similarly have raised the same objection against liquor back in the days of Prohibition. This is circular logic: it's illegal because it's bad; it's bad because it's mixed up with organized crime; and it's mixed up with organized crime because it's illegal.

The Thai government is happy to pronounce sex work illegal in order to pacify foreign feminists. It costs them nothing and inconveniences no one who matters. The Thai people don't give a fark, and the trade goes on merrily anyway.
 
2012-11-16 04:57:34 AM  
I was about 15 when I started going to the really terrible strip joints that didn't card (hello, The Green Light in Shively). It really makes you appreciate what you can do in life, after reaching 21. 

But then the fundies made lap dancing illegal here anyways, so no point at all
 
2012-11-16 05:09:09 AM  
The question is did they misbehave?
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2012-11-16 05:26:47 AM  
Came for the "Thanks God" reference.

Not enough lap dance pictures here though....
www.lifeinthemix.info
 
2012-11-16 06:07:23 AM  
Hope the kids didn't touch anything on those skanks.
 
2012-11-16 06:19:28 AM  
sexorcisst
Better the children learn this stuff early, under supervision.

No, son, don't kick in an extra tip until the second dance. That's when a good stripper is going to take her top off anyway.
 
2012-11-16 06:28:33 AM  
Anyone who objects to puss is gay!
 
2012-11-16 06:34:33 AM  

taurusowner: It's a parents perogative if they want their kid exposed to that, but in general I gotta say, so the fark what. By 16, unless he's a WoW/Fark poster living in the basement, that's not even close to being the first time that kid has seen a naked female in person. I'm surprise the local high school girls weren't the ones giving the lapdances.


While we all recognize the young stud muffin you once were*, 16 is indeed young and maybe too young, to be getting a lapdance.

*sarcasm intended
 
2012-11-16 06:36:15 AM  

SwingDancer: Meh. My brothers got me laid when I turned 14. I turned out ok. I'm not quite onion belt status, but I understand now why you want kids to stay off your lawn.


I hope they were gentle.
 
2012-11-16 06:42:14 AM  

taurusowner: Bronzemom: When in the heck are the old farkers gonna realize that gays are born--not made? Kids do not turn "deviant" --they are born gay.

A common socially accepted idea, but not even close to being proven physiologically.


Difficulty: We don't know what makes us straight either.

FTA: "Whether it got beyond that, we don't know," Murphy said. "We don't know about sex acts."

There you have it: an entire virgin police force.
 
2012-11-16 06:55:15 AM  

I sound fat: AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.

Not sure if you are trolling here... 16 year old boys do not lack the maturity to decide if they want to dance, which is all this was.

/well, all this was was a stick in the mud old person who didnt understand what they were seeing when they saw it.


Perhaps you don't understand how lapdances work. The boys don't actually dance.
 
2012-11-16 06:58:04 AM  

Knucklepopper: taurusowner: It's a parents perogative if they want their kid exposed to that, but in general I gotta say, so the fark what. By 16, unless he's a WoW/Fark poster living in the basement, that's not even close to being the first time that kid has seen a naked female in person. I'm surprise the local high school girls weren't the ones giving the lapdances.

While we all recognize the young stud muffin you once were*, 16 is indeed young and maybe too young, to be getting a lapdance.

*sarcasm intended


Curious. Where in my post did I claim what you are attributing to me?
 
2012-11-16 07:03:33 AM  

Knucklepopper: SwingDancer: Meh. My brothers got me laid when I turned 14. I turned out ok. I'm not quite onion belt status, but I understand now why you want kids to stay off your lawn.

I hope they were gentle.


lol
 
2012-11-16 07:05:15 AM  
If your old enough to be raped by a middle aged puppeteer your old enough for a lap dance.

amidoingthisright?
 
2012-11-16 07:11:20 AM  

david_gaithersburg: If your old


Not my old, brotha. Your old.
 
2012-11-16 07:28:02 AM  

taurusowner


It's a parents perogative if they want their kid exposed to that, but in general I gotta say, so the fark what.

D*mn conservative bible thumping rednecks always trying to push their morality on ... ohhhhh .
 
2012-11-16 07:43:49 AM  

Knucklepopper: SwingDancer: Meh. My brothers got me laid when I turned 14. I turned out ok. I'm not quite onion belt status, but I understand now why you want kids to stay off your lawn.

I hope they were gentle.


After posting that I realized how ir could be construed, thanks for going there perv :)
 
2012-11-16 07:53:36 AM  
If they didn't get naked or perform any sex acts, how is this a problem again?

Greatest 16th birthday evar.
 
2012-11-16 08:14:58 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.


"lap dance or no lap dance" is not a decision. The answer is always lap dance.
 
2012-11-16 08:26:52 AM  
Well, during my son's bachelor party in Las Vegas last year, he bought me a lap dance for Father's Day? Is that wrong?
 
2012-11-16 08:31:46 AM  
P. Diddy/Puffy Daddy/Puffy/Sean Comb's son got a lapdance when he was 12. This 16-year-old is late.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 08:40:33 AM  
Violence is not a normal part of adult interaction, yet most parents don't flinch at showing violent content to a 16 year old. Sex, on the other hand, is totally normal, even the kinky stuff is pretty normal (but secretly so) and we go all a-flutter if our precious butterflies see any of it.

I'm sure there's something backwards there, if only I could put my finger on it.
 
2012-11-16 09:24:59 AM  

ChaoticLimbs: Violence is not a normal part of adult interaction, yet most parents don't flinch at showing violent content to a 16 year old. Sex, on the other hand, is totally normal, even the kinky stuff is pretty normal (but secretly so) and we go all a-flutter if our precious butterflies see any of it.

I'm sure there's something backwards there, if only I could put my finger on it.


in it
 
2012-11-16 09:34:22 AM  

bikerbob59: Well, during my son's bachelor party in Las Vegas last year, he bought me a lap dance for Father's Day? Is that wrong?


Nah.

My 18 year-old son and I were driving around mid-Michigan and we came across a strip club in the middle of nowhere. He wanted to stop in...I told him no way. He asked why. I told him, "Do you really want to see your dad flirting and touching half-naked girls that are close to your age?" He thought about it for a minute...and said, "No...good call." I'm sure by the time he gets married and has a bachelor party...it wouldn't be as big of a deal...or maybe, it will be even creepier.
 
2012-11-16 09:36:25 AM  
I strongly suspect there was some piss-poor parenting involved somewhere in this incident, but if, as a police officer you're not sure an act is a crime, then let it go because chances are it is NOT a crime. If the adults involved want parenting tips, they'll watch Super Nanny. The police are not needed in this situation.
 
2012-11-16 09:41:40 AM  
Christian Bale: "No victim no crime, move on."

Sure, sure, but then where do the prudes get their excuse to discuss titillating themes and topics while looking down their noses at the damn-near-universal human condition?

/ won't anyone think of the prudes?
 
2012-11-16 10:23:11 AM  
Usually one has to go to a bowling alley to meet women of their stature.
 
2012-11-16 10:23:23 AM  

Shadowtag: If my 16 year old daughter wanted a male stripper, I'd have to wonder if there wasn't some mistake at the hospital.

/Such as why they gave me one. I went in for a broken arm.



Gift horse...mouth.


/That seat over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
 
2012-11-16 10:28:28 AM  

ChaoticLimbs: Violence is not a normal part of adult interaction, yet most parents don't flinch at showing violent content to a 16 year old. Sex, on the other hand, is totally normal, even the kinky stuff is pretty normal (but secretly so) and we go all a-flutter if our precious butterflies see any of it.

I'm sure there's something backwards there, if only I could put my finger on it.


This.

I always propose violent offender registries to go along with sex offender ones. Someone with anger issues who beats a kid into a coma doesn't have to register for anything when they get out even if they reoffend a dozen times-fights at bars, shoved kids in the store, whatever.
18 and 16 have sex? Sex offender list. Moon a car that happens to have an underage person in it? Sex offender list.

On average, as country, we really love violence and are scared, offended, and outright confused about sex. I think sex offender lists and the lack of an equivalent for violence are nothing more then extensions of our puritan attitude towards sex.
 
2012-11-16 10:31:59 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Jesus Jimminy, that's why we had train tracks back in our day!!!


www.flamesofwar.com

Yeah, well, you oldsters kind of overdid things back in the day................
 
2012-11-16 10:35:36 AM  

ShannonKW: If I had got a lap dance from an "exotic dancer" at age 16 I would have had an "issue" with it -- in a less common sense of the word. And there'd be a thoroughly disgusted dancer in the bathroom washing off her thighs.

[jizzedinmypants.jpg]


"Issue" or "tissue"?
 
2012-11-16 10:46:41 AM  

pedrop357: Shadowtag: If my 16 year old daughter wanted a male stripper, I'd have to wonder if there wasn't some mistake at the hospital.

/Such as why they gave me one. I went in for a broken arm.


Gift horse...mouth.


/That seat over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.


A traveling male strip troupe, if that's the right terminology, were booked in a little club in our hometown when I was 18. My older sister,1, who was 20 at the time, had co-workers pressuring her to go to the show. She told them her husband wouldn't allow it, but when he became privy of the situation, he thought her discomfort was funny. So, he loudly and emphatically announced that he thought it was a fine idea and she should go.

Mortified, 1 reported this to Granny, 2, and I. We tried to pretend to be sympathetic, but we thought it was hilarious. So, 2 and I told Granny "We should go; the three of us." Granny dismissed us as lunatics, but when our grandfather came into the room she told him "I'm going to that strip show tonight." He was completely unperturbed. All he said as "All right, have a nice time." He left to go on his daily walk and Granny remarked "That man has no sense of humor."

Well, he did have a sense of humor and the joke was on her. He took an extra long walk that day and told every old woman for blocks and blocks that his wife was going to the strip show and asked them "Aren't you going?" The phone rang off the hook all afternoon. One scandalized old bitty after another called up to express their shock and dismay. It was hilarious. My grandparents were funny.
 
2012-11-16 10:52:21 AM  

Mock26: Of course, everyone OK with this would be OK if it was there 16 year old daughter and an adult, male stripper, right?



Aw, your little "mind experiment" is so cute.

First you say basically "what if it was your daughter" but it wasn't my son, so there's no comparison. People might not have allowed their son to do this, so you can't say "what if it was your daughter."

You can say "what if this was a bunch of 16 year old girls and a male stripper" and to that I'd say, it's exactly the same situation, i.e, no big farking deal.
 
2012-11-16 11:24:02 AM  

rockforever: AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.

Like having a good time.


Exotic dancers and prostitutes are occasionally the same thing. The laws are in place for a reason--the last thing you want is some dumbass 16-year-old trying to impress a hooker by claiming to be eighteen, and said hooker then pressuring him into having sex like she would an adult.

At sixteen, most boys are still in puberty. Their brains have biological changes going on. I don't particularly care if they got a lap dance, people do dumber things every day, but the cops are right to be looking into this, because whatever moron was involved could have ended up with a sexually abused or raped child.

/And yes, boys can be raped and abused. They also have a lot of cultural pressure not to say no, which makes it harder for them to be safe.
 
2012-11-16 11:47:45 AM  

slayer199: If they didn't get naked or perform any sex acts, how is this a problem again?

Greatest 16th birthday evar.


i grew up a few towns over from south glens falls. you do NOT want strippers from that town doing anything to you. or near you.
 
2012-11-16 11:47:52 AM  

PsiChick: rockforever: AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.

Like having a good time.

Exotic dancers and prostitutes are occasionally the same thing. The laws are in place for a reason--the last thing you want is some dumbass 16-year-old trying to impress a hooker by claiming to be eighteen, and said hooker then pressuring him into having sex like she would an adult.

At sixteen, most boys are still in puberty. Their brains have biological changes going on. I don't particularly care if they got a lap dance, people do dumber things every day, but the cops are right to be looking into this, because whatever moron was involved could have ended up with a sexually abused or raped child.

/And yes, boys can be raped and abused. They also have a lot of cultural pressure not to say no, which makes it harder for them to be safe.


Okay, I'll concede you make excellent points. There's already strong evidence of poor parental decision making skills. Given that, perhaps an investigation is warranted.
 
2012-11-16 11:55:18 AM  

Lunaville: PsiChick: rockforever: AverageAmericanGuy: These are still kids who haven't fully mentally matured to the point where they can be making decisions like this.

Like having a good time.

Exotic dancers and prostitutes are occasionally the same thing. The laws are in place for a reason--the last thing you want is some dumbass 16-year-old trying to impress a hooker by claiming to be eighteen, and said hooker then pressuring him into having sex like she would an adult.

At sixteen, most boys are still in puberty. Their brains have biological changes going on. I don't particularly care if they got a lap dance, people do dumber things every day, but the cops are right to be looking into this, because whatever moron was involved could have ended up with a sexually abused or raped child.

/And yes, boys can be raped and abused. They also have a lot of cultural pressure not to say no, which makes it harder for them to be safe.

Okay, I'll concede you make excellent points. There's already strong evidence of poor parental decision making skills. Given that, perhaps an investigation is warranted.


Yeah, I was emotionally a little younger than my biological age growing up, so I understand pretty easily that kids who look old enough to do things can get pressured into doing them.

/Although I was a loner, so for me it was pretty theoretical, not a CSS.
 
2012-11-16 01:59:48 PM  
What? No pic of the bachelor party with the lilttle kid in the background? The "Fail," pic...
 
2012-11-16 04:02:53 PM  
Big deal. Beats having the tickle me Elmo guy pull his hand out of Elmos ass and try to put it in yours....
 
2012-11-18 02:34:29 PM  

ehahn: What? No pic of the bachelor party with the lilttle kid in the background? The "Fail," pic...


Then post the damn pic!
 
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