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2012-11-15 09:56:01 PM
3 votes:

bdub77: ZAZ: the notoriously viscous spider

It's only viscous after you squish it.

That article was full of errors a good editor would have never missed.


Unfortunately, it was written for the Daily Fail.
2012-11-16 04:31:38 AM
2 votes:
Vicious black widow spider...

I'm glad everyone else in the thread is pointing out the very idea is laughable. I've got a black widow living in my window (in a nice big jar!) and she's profoundly timid... they're so unbalanced that it's hard for them to even move quickly or with any agility when they're not on their web, and their inclination to attack something actively poking them (an allen wrench when I was giving her a fresh jar) is pretty much limited to trying to slow it with capture silk. You've practically got to try to get them to bite you, and pretty hard at that.

It's sure fun to watch her rock some insects though. Yellow jackets are her biatches, and she can take down cockroaches much larger than her.
2012-11-16 01:49:33 AM
2 votes:

WeenerGord: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]


Did you ... did you just tip that spider a dollar?
2012-11-16 12:07:25 AM
2 votes:
As someone who has been bitten by both a Black Widow and a Brown Recluse, I can safely say "Quit your goddamned whining, England."

Seriously though, these aren't exactly the most dangerous thing we've exported to the United Kingdom. As I recall, Plaxico Burress played a game there once.
2012-11-15 09:11:08 PM
2 votes:
Black Widow's bite reported to be 15 times stronger than a rattlesnake's ... by the Department of Anally-Derived Statistics.

Engineers at the plant discovered the notoriously viscous spider ... So just chill them a bit and they become syrupy and immobile. Problem solved!
2012-11-15 08:38:40 PM
2 votes:
Buncha pansies. I have to clear out hundreds of these every year, silly things like building nests in my goddamn mailbox.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-15 07:55:44 PM
2 votes:
the notoriously viscous spider

It's only viscous after you squish it.
2012-11-16 07:28:39 PM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: SearchN: I believe the correct term is Funnel Web,not funnel back. Doing a quick google search confirms that, or is funnel back Austrian?

Derp derp, my bad, this is what I get for posting in a nice safe spider thread at toodamnearly AM while trying to forget about the latest round of incendiary poop-slinging in the Levant :D


All good. Just caught my attention and was wondering if it was slang or not.
2012-11-16 09:06:15 AM
1 votes:

This Face Left Blank: vossiewulf: Easy there Brits. Having lived 40+ years right smack dab in black widow territory, you have to work really hard to get bitten. If you spend lots of time climbing around under houses in crawl spaces you might want to carry some bug spray with you but otherwise don't sweat it.

What the fark kind of 'bug spray' are YOU using. The vicious (and viscous) farks shrug off bug spray like I would a squirt gun blast. Even the shiat that's supposedly made to kill spiders just pisses 'em off.


Don't use poison...use spraypaint or really powerful hairspray...freezes the little farks in their tracks. Did that to one in my garage a few years back and left it to serve as an example to others. Thing is still there where i left it...lol
2012-11-16 08:21:16 AM
1 votes:

Dinjiin: kidgenius: Luckily, the scorps have an achilles heel; their wicked cool black-light glow. Last summer, I went out 3 times a week and killed 5-6 every time. They love cinder block walls.

Our local Home Depot has a display cage over by the pest control section with scorpions in it. Push a button and a blacklight comes on so you can see them crawling around inside.

I probably should invest in a blacklight wand at some point so I can add them to my outdoor hunt. Besides the concrete blocks, they also like to hide under the crushed landscaping rock in the yard, especially if they're larger sized stones that create lots of pockets for them to hide in.


Just get a UV led flashlight. $20 and you are set. I also recommend caulking the main columns of the cinder block walls. Will help to keep them from coming into your yard. It really does help cut down the ways they get in your yard. And you can buy tan/gray caulk that blends in. From five feet away you can't even see it.
2012-11-16 06:27:30 AM
1 votes:
i301.photobucket.com
2012-11-16 04:29:51 AM
1 votes:
They aren't deadly really..... bites from large ones have been known to kill 3 year old children and younger. But that takes an extra large one which isn't common at all. Kids older than that and to adults will just get a nasty welt and possibly come down with some common cold type symptoms.

They are a nasty spider, but they are solitary and do not "infest" anymore than any other spider.

(Spider eggs tend to release 500 baby spiders into the world, most of them die, that goes for pretty much all spiders)

So basically... DO NOT FREAK OUT ENGLAND..... we have had them here in the U.S forever and they don't cause any significant problems.
2012-11-16 04:14:59 AM
1 votes:
This is my fav spider picture.


officialmagicpg.com

It is something a doctor found while looking in a woman's ear canal.

Apparently this is a problem that is becoming quite common.
2012-11-16 03:45:40 AM
1 votes:

Oznog: Black Widow's bite reported to be 15 times stronger than a rattlesnake's

Who decides this, really? Do we have test groups, one which receives a black widow's bite, the other gets 5, 10, 15, or 20 rattlesnake bites, and a placebo which just gets pinched?


They get a rattlesnake and let it kill a mouse. Then they see how many mice of equal size one black widow can kill. In this case, it was 15, ergo, a black widow is 15 times deadlier than a rattlesnake. In the case of a cobra, from what I hear, a widow is only about 2x deadlier, i.e. a widow can only kill two mice for every mouse a cobra can kill; whereas the funnel-web spider is 193 times deadlier than a black widow (for every mouse a widow can kill, that Australian monster can kill 193 mice), and so forth.

Now, I realize that would mean a funnel-web spider is 2895 times deadlier than a rattlesnake, which should be impossible, but remember it does come from Australia, so you're justified in killing them as often as possible and never going near Australia as much as you can.
2012-11-16 02:46:17 AM
1 votes:
FTFA: Black Widow's bite reported to be 15 times stronger than a rattlesnake's

Yeah, it's reported to be so, but the ones reporting it are the Daily Fail.

/The Australian redback, though...
2012-11-16 02:31:31 AM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: and NOT in people's homes or especially their shoes


Oh yeah, you're not supposed to leave your shoes outside around here for that reason. Same with gloves. You have to check for scorpions before you put them on if you do leave them out.

Again, did I mention that it is supposed to be sunny with high temps in the mid 70s F / mid 20s C for the next two weeks and it is almost winter? Just in case anyone was wondering why I'd move to (and remain at) a place like this.
2012-11-16 02:24:16 AM
1 votes:
I say, I appear to have been bitten by a deadly black widow. That's damned inconvenient.
2012-11-16 02:23:46 AM
1 votes:

kidgenius: Luckily, the scorps have an achilles heel; their wicked cool black-light glow. Last summer, I went out 3 times a week and killed 5-6 every time. They love cinder block walls.


Our local Home Depot has a display cage over by the pest control section with scorpions in it. Push a button and a blacklight comes on so you can see them crawling around inside.

I probably should invest in a blacklight wand at some point so I can add them to my outdoor hunt. Besides the concrete blocks, they also like to hide under the crushed landscaping rock in the yard, especially if they're larger sized stones that create lots of pockets for them to hide in.
2012-11-16 02:21:49 AM
1 votes:

Dinjiin: taurusowner: I'm guessing somewhere in the southwest US?

Yup.

But honestly, the Black Windows are more a nuisance than anything. Never seen one in the house and rarely see them in the garage. The tarantula probably came into the house when I had the door to the garage open to bring in groceries. Boy, was it pissed when I came near it with the extension wand to the dyson. Got up on its hind legs and started striking its forearms at me. In hindsight, I kinda wish I had just put some gloves and a long-sleeved sweatshirt on and tried to capture it. But the wife discovered it and was freaking out. Never been bit by a spider living down here, BTW.

My spider bite scar comes from what I assume was a wolf spider. Got it when I lived way up north. Bastard got me while I was sleeping. It didn't hurt, but it was really tender for a few days. Looked like a giant zit with inflamed skin around it. Took about 3 weeks to heal.


Well, if I do move a Taurus Judge and some .410 shotshells will probably be handy whenever I'm doing outdoorsy stuff. No capturing for me.
2012-11-16 02:13:56 AM
1 votes:

taurusowner: I'm guessing somewhere in the southwest US?


Yup.

But honestly, the Black Windows are more a nuisance than anything. Never seen one in the house and rarely see them in the garage. The tarantula probably came into the house when I had the door to the garage open to bring in groceries. Boy, was it pissed when I came near it with the extension wand to the dyson. Got up on its hind legs and started striking its forearms at me. In hindsight, I kinda wish I had just put some gloves and a long-sleeved sweatshirt on and tried to capture it. But the wife discovered it and was freaking out. Never been bit by a spider living down here, BTW.

My spider bite scar comes from what I assume was a wolf spider. Got it when I lived way up north. Bastard got me while I was sleeping. It didn't hurt, but it was really tender for a few days. Looked like a giant zit with inflamed skin around it. Took about 3 weeks to heal.
2012-11-16 01:56:38 AM
1 votes:

Blue_Blazer: farkin hell, I am not moving to where you live. My skin is crawling just reading that.


Everyone is all worked up about the spiders, but the scorpions are the critters you have to worry about. They can crawl up walls and I assume they can crawl on ceilings. Which means that they could drop onto your bed. Not that they'd need to since they can crawl up the legs (there are special scorpion blocks you can buy for the legs of your bed or baby's crib).

I also heard a rumor (probably false) that mama scorpions carry their brood on their backs. So if you squish a mama scorpion in your house, the babies will run off in every direction. Dozens of them. In your house. It is why I use the dyson to suck up the little bastards whenever I see them in the house so I can dump the canister outside.

The worst part is that standard insecticides do not kill scorpions. The chemicals it takes to kill them are lethal to us. So except to spray them with this toxic stuff or to physically destroy them, the only way to deal with scorpions is to kill off their food supply (other bugs) so they'll move on.

But hey, it is mid November and it is going to be 78F/25C and sunny tomorrow, so this place isn't all bad. 


/sleep well
2012-11-16 01:46:24 AM
1 votes:

dopeydwarf: Vicious spider? They're scared to death of coming in contact with you, they run away from a gentle breeze. And deadly? Maybe to a baby or a very old person. What happened to the stiff upper lip, Britain?

Oh and all spiders are venomous, you Daily Fail knobs. You mean poisonous to humans. 

/Loves spiders.


Not quite all.
2012-11-16 01:37:54 AM
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: vossiewulf: Easy there Brits. Having lived 40+ years right smack dab in black widow territory, you have to work really hard to get bitten. If you spend lots of time climbing around under houses in crawl spaces you might want to carry some bug spray with you but otherwise don't sweat it.

Yup. They're really easy to live with. Just don't poke them or their next.

The hobo spider on the other hand will charge 4-6 feet just to bite you because fark you that's why.


Hobo spiders are aggressive, but most of their bites are dry (no venom). They don't like to waste it as they need it for their food. Unless your trapping it in some way and make it feel like it's about to die you'll likely get little to no venom.

I've known a couple people who've been bit and the only one who ended up with what looks like a recluse bite (recluse and hobo spiders have the same type of venom) was my idiot friend who deserves a Darwin award for picking up a hobo spider he found then lays down and starts farking with it while it's on his bare chest. He ended up getting bit near his diaphragm and within an hour or 2 had a massive baseball size lump in the bite location. He ended up spending a few days in the hospital and had a huge hole in his abdomen that gushed with disgusting green and pink puss he had to drain every couple hours and stuff with tons of gauze.
2012-11-16 01:12:25 AM
1 votes:
I just wanna say that we are now 50+ posts into a spider thread and no one has posted the usual creepy spider pictures (clock spider, toilet paper spider, etc). Normally I would be disappoint, But in this case, it warms my heart. Thank you for sparing us so far.
2012-11-16 01:11:02 AM
1 votes:
files.abovetopsecret.com
2012-11-16 01:06:06 AM
1 votes:
Leaving lepidoptera - please, don't touch the display,
little boy, aha cute! Moving to the next aisle we have
arachnida, the spiders, our.. finest collection.
This friendly little devil is the heptothilidi,
unfortunately harmless. Next to him, the nasty licosa
raptoria. His tiny fangs cause creeping ulcerations of
the skin. And here, my prize, the Black Widow.
Isn't she lovely?.. and so deadly. Her kiss is
fifteen times as poisonous as that of the rattlesnake.
You see her venom is highly neurotoxic, which is to say
that it attacks the central nervous system, causing
intense pain, profuse sweating, difficulty in
breathing, loss of consciousness, violent convulsions
and, finally.. death. You know what I think I love the
most about her is her inborn need to dominate,
possess. In fact, immediately after the consummation
of her marriage to the smaller and weaker male of the
species she kills and eats him - oh, she is
delicious!... and I hope he was. Such power and dignity
- unhampered by sentiment. If I may put forward a
slice of personal philosophy, I feel that man has ruled
this world as a stumbling demented child-king, long
enough! And as his empire crumbles, my precious Black
Widow, shall rise, as his most fitting successor!
2012-11-16 01:02:10 AM
1 votes:
What a black widow may look like
x.annihil.us
2012-11-16 12:51:32 AM
1 votes:

Thorny: Sherman Potter: Captain James T. Smirk: Sherman Potter: Captain James T. Smirk: As someone who has been bitten by both a Black Widow and a Brown Recluse, I can safely say "Quit your goddamned whining, England."

Seriously though, these aren't exactly the most dangerous thing we've exported to the United Kingdom. As I recall, Plaxico Burress played a game there once.

B.S. without pics. Nobody gets bit by a Brown Recluse and doesn't take pictures of the extruded sausage hamburger that results.

/I've seen it.
//It ain't pretty
///Iowa

I got bit on the arm while I was at Fort Jackson, SC. The Drill Sergeants had a pre-arranged plan for recluse bites, even though they were rare and even though necrosis from a recluse bite happens less than half of the time. About fifteen seconds after I got bit, slapped my arm, saw the remains of a recluse, and said "Oh, shiat", I was on a truck on the way to the base hospital, and within ten minutes I was getting my arm washed down with about thirty different soaps and being needled full of all kinds of meds. Ended up with nothing but a normal-looking, tiny spider bite that went away in a couple of days.

Well then, you're lucky. The one I saw was in rural Iowa after a 4-hour trip to the ER. The poor girl's leg looked like raw sausage. Horrible.

You had no reaction, you were out of the natural range of the recluse, and your basing the ID on smushed remains. Are you sure you have the ID correct or do you just assume every brown spider is a recluse?


There were no smushed remains (and I never claimed any) the determination was made by the ER doc and State Epidemiologist. BR spiders are rare in Iowa, but they're here.

Soon.
2012-11-16 12:28:59 AM
1 votes:
When I was an infant, my parents kept my crib in a corner directly under a black widow's nest.

And I do mean kept, because mommy dearest has verified several times that she intentionally left it there after the nest appeared.
2012-11-16 12:27:50 AM
1 votes:
Oh hi.

media.theweek.com
2012-11-16 12:26:34 AM
1 votes:
now THAT was the most alarmist, blown- out- of- proportion article i've read today! I especially like the part at the end, after all the gnashing and wailing about deadly black widows, how it quietly says most bites cause no serious damage. Way to go Daily Mail! Hopefully Britain installs some more surveillance cams now, to protect them for this deadly scourge.
2012-11-16 12:24:04 AM
1 votes:

Captain James T. Smirk: Sherman Potter: Captain James T. Smirk: As someone who has been bitten by both a Black Widow and a Brown Recluse, I can safely say "Quit your goddamned whining, England."

Seriously though, these aren't exactly the most dangerous thing we've exported to the United Kingdom. As I recall, Plaxico Burress played a game there once.

B.S. without pics. Nobody gets bit by a Brown Recluse and doesn't take pictures of the extruded sausage hamburger that results.

/I've seen it.
//It ain't pretty
///Iowa

I got bit on the arm while I was at Fort Jackson, SC. The Drill Sergeants had a pre-arranged plan for recluse bites, even though they were rare and even though necrosis from a recluse bite happens less than half of the time. About fifteen seconds after I got bit, slapped my arm, saw the remains of a recluse, and said "Oh, shiat", I was on a truck on the way to the base hospital, and within ten minutes I was getting my arm washed down with about thirty different soaps and being needled full of all kinds of meds. Ended up with nothing but a normal-looking, tiny spider bite that went away in a couple of days.


Well then, you're lucky. The one I saw was in rural Iowa after a 4-hour trip to the ER. The poor girl's leg looked like raw sausage. Horrible.
2012-11-16 12:16:50 AM
1 votes:
Black Widow spiders are common around here. They like to make their nests on the inside corners of my house's exterior. The webs are very irregular and are annoying because they tend to pick up a lot of debris and are unsightly.

So during their peak season, I take a flashlight and a shoe and walk the perimeter of the house just after dark when they've come out. I crush all the spiders I see. I think my record was to crush 15 BWs and three scorpions in one night. I generally leave the tarantulas alone unless they get into the house (only happened once).


/have never found a BW inside the house
//effing scorpions love to come inside, though
2012-11-16 12:15:29 AM
1 votes:

Sherman Potter: Captain James T. Smirk: As someone who has been bitten by both a Black Widow and a Brown Recluse, I can safely say "Quit your goddamned whining, England."

Seriously though, these aren't exactly the most dangerous thing we've exported to the United Kingdom. As I recall, Plaxico Burress played a game there once.

B.S. without pics. Nobody gets bit by a Brown Recluse and doesn't take pictures of the extruded sausage hamburger that results.

/I've seen it.
//It ain't pretty
///Iowa


I got bit on the arm while I was at Fort Jackson, SC. The Drill Sergeants had a pre-arranged plan for recluse bites, even though they were rare and even though necrosis from a recluse bite happens less than half of the time. About fifteen seconds after I got bit, slapped my arm, saw the remains of a recluse, and said "Oh, shiat", I was on a truck on the way to the base hospital, and within ten minutes I was getting my arm washed down with about thirty different soaps and being needled full of all kinds of meds. Ended up with nothing but a normal-looking, tiny spider bite that went away in a couple of days.
2012-11-16 12:12:05 AM
1 votes:
lol, i literally have 4 or 5 around my house because i haven't sprayed in a while. they ARE deadly, if you go up to one and let it crawl on you. then aggravate it, then don't seek medical attention AND you are old, a baby, or sick. essentially a Darwin device.

/one bites me in my sleep and i die tonight.
2012-11-16 12:10:54 AM
1 votes:
We should respect the Black Widow's culture and work hard to integrate her 100 offspring.
2012-11-16 12:06:53 AM
1 votes:

vossiewulf: Easy there Brits. Having lived 40+ years right smack dab in black widow territory, you have to work really hard to get bitten. If you spend lots of time climbing around under houses in crawl spaces you might want to carry some bug spray with you but otherwise don't sweat it.


Yup. They're really easy to live with. Just don't poke them or their next.

The hobo spider on the other hand will charge 4-6 feet just to bite you because fark you that's why.
2012-11-15 10:44:55 PM
1 votes:
Easy there Brits. Having lived 40+ years right smack dab in black widow territory, you have to work really hard to get bitten. If you spend lots of time climbing around under houses in crawl spaces you might want to carry some bug spray with you but otherwise don't sweat it.
2012-11-15 10:28:07 PM
1 votes:
Vicious spider? They're scared to death of coming in contact with you, they run away from a gentle breeze. And deadly? Maybe to a baby or a very old person. What happened to the stiff upper lip, Britain?

Oh and all spiders are venomous, you Daily Fail knobs. You mean poisonous to humans. 

/Loves spiders.
 
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