Zebulon: You apparently have no idea how most retail companies work. Do you know how much of every dollar you spend at a Walmart actually turns into profit? 3 cents. That's it. 3 pennies. So, to increase one Walmart associate's pay by $4 an hour would take an extra $133 or so in sales. Doesn't seem like much, right? Now, take into account that the average Walmart has about 200 employees, and lets say a third of them are there at any given time. That means that the store would need to cover 67 employees, which would mean they would need an extra $2211 in sales, *every hour*. For a 24 hr supercenter, that would mean a little over $53000 a day. The Walmart I work at usually only averages about $200000 in sales a day, so we would need to increase our sales by about 25% to cover those costs. Not going to happen.
ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: If you want more money, find a better job, gain more marketable skills, start your own business. Don't expect the government to increase minimum wage or protest your employer into paying you more.Pull themselves up by their bootstraps, eh?But someone still has to stock the groceries. If EVERYONE did as you suggested, who would stock the groceries?
fredklein: If it was "absoltely clear", that she was not available Friday nights, why did she come in at all? If she's mistakenly scheduled for it, she can speak to a manager and get it taken off. And that would solve the whole 'overtime' thing, too.
fredklein: Or, (assuming she wanted to work Fridays and has less than 2 hours OT) she could punch in at 10pm (on time, no tardys!), and immediately punch out for lunch. Wait the time needed, then punch in from lunch.
fredklein: /who the heck closes the payroll week at Friday midnight??
Great Janitor: For those who don't like it there, find a different job or shut up.
Great Janitor: When I worked at Krogers in 1996
Great Janitor: For those who like working at Walmart, stay there, be happy. For those who don't like it there, find a different job or shut up.
Litterbox: Welp, it should be interesting on Black Friday. Im a Deputy Sheriff and along with about ten others, we will be working security at our local Walmart. Less people is good as long as I still get paid for being there. LOL!
ACallForPeace: Great Janitor: For those who don't like it there, find a different job or shut up.Or organize and use your freedom of speech and association.For some reason it's okay for management to be organized and put pressure on workers, but the reverse should be unthinkable and only be done by lazy deadbeats right?
Great Janitor: I view it this way: I own a company. I decide how much a job is worth. A person applies for that job. I tell them what that job pays and what the duties involved are. They then make the choice as to whether or not they accept the job if it's offered. Since the worker does not own the company, they can ask for more money and I, the owner, can refuse. If the workers start to organize, I can exercise my right to fire the organizers.
Great Janitor: If the workers start to organize, I can exercise my right to fire the organizers.
ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: When I worked at Krogers in 1996Calling it "Krogers" instead of "Kroger" (its real name) let's me know that you actually DID work there. I have no idea why, but people in the South add the "s".Great Janitor: For those who like working at Walmart, stay there, be happy. For those who don't like it there, find a different job or shut up.Once again, many people DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. If your bagger friend had been told that he would be required to also do other work during his shift, and receive no extra pay, would he have quit? What if there were no other grocery stores in the area for him to work at?I'm glad your friend was able to find a job he liked that gave him fulfillment. But to think that Wal-Mart workers should just find somewhere else to work if they don't like it, as if the problem was the employee and not the job, is just wrong.
Smelly McUgly: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.I am looking forward to Hostess going out of business. Good. One less crappy company making terrible products and screwing their employees. It's the free market; someone else will pop up and maybe do things right the next time.
ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: If the workers start to organize, I can exercise my right to fire the organizers.No. No, you cannot.You have proudly displayed your ignorance for all to witness. Go forth and educate thyself before spouting such nonsense in this forum.
Great Janitor: And please, explain to me how someone does not have a choice when it comes to finding work. I've never had that problem.
Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.
People_are_Idiots: Uhm, the Constitution protects the right of the workers to protest and peacefully assemble to speak out on unfair practices. It does not protect a worker walking out of his/her job to do so, since Wal-mart has no union contract. Quote better next time please?I live with my mom
Lsherm: ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: If the workers start to organize, I can exercise my right to fire the organizers.No. No, you cannot.You have proudly displayed your ignorance for all to witness. Go forth and educate thyself before spouting such nonsense in this forum.You need to look up right to work states. They've legislated, on purpose, the means to get around the NRLA. The laws vary by state.He's ignorant, but so are you.
ox45tallboy: She just had the GM do it last week. Then "someone" overrode the GM and scheduled her for the week after Thanksgiving, 5 nights. The issue hasn't had time to resolve itself this way, and, depending on the way Black Friday works out, it might not have to.
Lsherm: You need to look up right to work states. They've legislated, on purpose, the means to get around the NRLA. The laws vary by state.He's ignorant, but so are you.
ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: And please, explain to me how someone does not have a choice when it comes to finding work. I've never had that problem.You probably have a better-than-average education, as well as few (if any) people dependent upon you for that next paycheck so that they can EAT.Just because you don't have a particular problem, it is silly to think that the problem doesn't exist for others. A statement like yours makes you sound like someone that works nights and never understands why everyone complains about the rush hour traffic - you don't drive during rush hour!
ox45tallboy: People_are_Idiots: Uhm, the Constitution protects the right of the workers to protest and peacefully assemble to speak out on unfair practices. It does not protect a worker walking out of his/her job to do so, since Wal-mart has no union contract. Quote better next time please?I live with my momGreat user name for someone that is arguing that Federal law prohibits retaliation against employee organizing. A self-fulfilling prophecy, if you will. Like a Republican who says "government doesn't work" and then, once elected, does his best to prove it.Here you go. Educate thyself!
fredklein: So... it's a non-issue then.
fredklein: Do the computers get more or less pissy than management?
fredklein: And, she's scheduled 10pm to 7am? 9 hours straight?
fredklein: Most timekeeping software (that I know of) is designed to 'attach' the workers shift to the appropriate day, even if it goes past midnight.
AdolfOliverPanties: What's cool about having someone on your ignore list is that you can put a note in there that will be displayed each time the ignored person posts something.And it is filter-free."you can put a note in there that will be displayed each time the ignored person posts something."
gingerjet: So part of their plan is to pre-announce the walk out?/I don't think they thought this all the way through
People_are_Idiots: Whoa, a bigger idiot! Did I say FEDERAL law? I said CONSTITUTION. Constitution does not necessarily mean Federal. This is like saying Texas Law is valid in Arizona... next time, READ!-10/10
divx88: Don't like it, don't work there.Learn a trade that's in demand.
I sound fat: This becomes unforgivable at the busiest times of year.Wal mart MIGHT have given a crap about their beefs if they did this on September 23rd or something.Now they will just hold a grudge. And the customers will blame you. You lose. everything.
ox45tallboy: Lsherm: You need to look up right to work states. They've legislated, on purpose, the means to get around the NRLA. The laws vary by state.He's ignorant, but so are you.I'm in a right to work state right now (Alabama). Don't call me ignorant for explaining to someone that it is illegal to fire someone for attempting to organize, no matter what state you're in.Of course there are ways around it. But that doesn't make it legal, it means that you have to find a different reason to fire the organizers.
I sound fat: If wal mart goes union, pays high wages, and raises prices, the financial markets will fund a brand new wal mart clone and have it up and running in months. Interestingly, these same people will be working there, because even if they win, they will be fired.
Lsherm: Fair enough. It's illegal to fire someone for attempting to organize. In some states, however, it's perfectly legal to fire someone for using a practical means for doing so.
divx88: Loyalty is worth it's own weight in gold.
invisbob: /Bought a house on $7.50/hr 1br 50k perfect starter home
cman: What took them so damn long?Good luck, btw
Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Doesn't matter. You can cite things like this all day and assholes like this thread's merry band of trolls will still lick the Walton heir's taints. We're Amurricans - no one can be too rich and any amount of employee abuse is perfectly OK because, by golly, they chose the work there.When I hear shiat like this it pisses me off so much I'm ready to to go heads-on spikes. The billionaires and their white knights right next to them.
ox45tallboy: Next time, figure out what the hell you are talking about. I called Great Janitor out for claiming that he had the right to fire anyone attempting to organize a Union. I pointed out an article discussing Constitutional Theory, as well as the Wagner Act. You butted in and called me "ignorant" and said I had no idea what I was talking about, and demanded a better reference. I linked straight to the Wagner Act, and now you're spouting off some nonsense about the Constitution and how Federal law Texas valid in Arizona... I have no idea what you think you are talking about, but I gave you the FEDERAL law which trumps any and all State laws. If that's not good enough for you, then fark off.I rate you negative infinity/10. So there.
Silly Jesus: timujin: Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.Generally speaking, that is untrue. While working at Wal-mart is not a job that requires a particularly high skill level, the people who are skilled enough are also the people who like to be able to eat and who don't like to be told to do work that is in violation of labor laws. Now, I'm sure there are people that are willing to put up with that, but I believe Wal-mart will find the quality of those workers to be lacking.Basically, you pay for what you get.Which also happens to be true when you shop at Wal-mart.The few times that I have ventured into Wal-mart I haven't been very impressed by the quality of their employees. Yelling to each other and laughing about nonsense from one register to another one 10 rows away. Standing in your way everywhere talking on cell phones. Literally retarded greeters. Parking lot full of trash and discarded shopping carts. Sort of seems like they are already scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don't think that Wal-mart could possibly find the quality of anyone lacking. So, yeah, there is no shortage of mouth-breathers to fill the positions of the current employees if they don't like it enough to stick around.
ciberido: Mine goes to -11/10.
ox45tallboy: divx88: Don't like it, don't work there.Learn a trade that's in demand.Stocking groceries is in demand. That's why people are doing it.If they were to learn a new trade, then who would stock the groceries? And would the new grocery stockers deserve to be treated this way?
ox45tallboy: Great Janitor: When I worked at Krogers in 1996Calling it "Krogers" instead of "Kroger" (its real name) let's me know that you actually DID work there. I have no idea why, but people in the South add the "s".
FLMountainMan: pxlboy: Bit'O'Gristle: Good luck to them, although huge corporations like this generally don't give a rats ass about the workers, they just care about the bottom line. But i do wish them well. They should really unionize and actually have some bargaining power.Wal-Mart has actively engaged in union-busting for years. They're trying to break the will and the backs of labor to bring them on wage parity with China.But not Target or Apple, right? Because we like them.
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