Howlin Mad Murphy: How do you assholes want it? You biatch and moan about a lot of these same people being on welfare, then you want to put them down for standing up for themselves and demanding livable wages. Oooh, please someone save the multi-billion dollar corporation! They shouldn't have to pay their employees anymore because they are worthless pieces of shiat that knew what they were getting into. Give me a farking break.

If I asked for a job that paid me $1 a day, would the company be evil or would I be a dumbass?

The market creates a value for these people based on their function and their skill set. They agreed to work for that amount. Why should the company pay them more than they are worth just for the hell of it?

El Dudereno: You can simply fire everyone and hire scabs, but that's only a temporary solution because eventually you run out of people willing to do shiatty work for low pay who are also qualified.

That actually won't be a problem for a while. Even in good economies, the "Less than high school diploma" group has 5-7% unemployment. The last few years, that has gone up to about 15%. And new kids drop out of high school everyday. There will always be plenty of people around. Source

Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.

Yes, increased human misery is beautiful.

Cur.

Hunter_Worthington: At least Wal-Mart got a free way to identify lazy, shiftless, braindead workers.

Yup, they are easy to identify because they work at Walmart. And even they aren't putting up with Walmart's shiat.

MFAWG: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.

Wal-Mart hasn't filed for bankruptcy

Correct.

Buffalo77: Just a stunt by the occupy crowd. Most Wal Marts are open 24 - 7 so black Friday is irrelevant

Someone may have taken the "Occupy yor jerb{" srsly.

erveek: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.

Yes, increased human misery is beautiful.

Cur.

2/10

How typical... someone who doesn't want to come to work also wants a "donation". Typical 99% garbage here. You want more money? Prove yourself as someone who should be paid more money. Become an asset to the company, not some mindless drone in the hive of collective bargaining.

I'm sure walmart is really struggling in this economy.
What's that you say? No way. Really?
Ok.
I'll just leave this here:
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
Well, goodness, it's true.
snip:
No. 9: Jim Walton, $23.7 billion
No. 10: Alice Walton, $23.3 billion
No. 11: S. Robson Walton, oldest son of Sam Walton, $23.1 billion
No. 103: Ann Walton Kroenke, $3.9 billion
No. 139: Nancy Walton Laurie, $3.4 billion

That's a grand total of $102.7 billion for the whole family.

Sylvia Allegretto, a labor economist at the Center on Wage and Employment Dynamics at the University of California-Berkeley, compared the Waltons' cumulative net worth with that of the overall population, as cited in the Survey of Consumer Finances. (She used the Waltons' wealth from 2010, which was valued at $89.5 billion.)

Allegretto found that in 2007, the wealth held by the six Waltons was equal to that of the bottom 30.5 percent of families in the U.S. In 2010, the Waltons' share equaled the entire bottom 41.5 percent of families.

Walmart can afford raises for everyone.

Silly Jesus: If I asked for a job that paid me $1 a day, would the company be evil or would I be a dumbass?

Yes and yes.

Though the latter is true regardless of context.

Lsherm: Sliding Carp: $5.00 says the party of small government, individual freedom, and free market will find a way to claim the government should force them back to work.

Unemployment is still high enough they can be replaced. Sucks, but true, especially since it doesn't look like this is a nationwide-coordinated effort. If they could get all the workers in all the stores to strike on the same day it would be very effective.

Meh. If all the wal-mart employees in my town walked off the job, the company would have serious problems replacing them. Every big box store, fast food place, grocery store, and small retail store is having to raise wages to attract employees. The unskilled retail labor pool is pretty tight.
Lots of temp workers who barely/don't speak English are filling gaps at some places, but would you want to staff a wal-mart in middle America with English-challenged people on black Friday?

The hambeasts fighting over discounted Chinese-made shiat would burn the motherfarker down.

/come to think of it, that might be damned entertaining

When did we pass the place where the employees of a company, no matter the size, are not looked after by their employer in America? The primary pillar that Capitalism stood on during the Cold War is that the workers are treated well in trade for a job well done. I suppose the demands of a job at Wal-Mart are not all that demanding and hardly fulfilling for a full-realized human being but there is still work to be done to satisfy the demands of the American consumer in the ever-lasting battle towards the bottom of the barrel of prices. Even so, the more we demand out of one sack of meat at the lowest level of competent employment the further away from the shining star we hope to become we venture.
I'm all for it. If there's a large amount of participation in the strike the harder it will be to fill those vacated man hours in such a limited amount of time, thus giving higher ups pause against driving the line so hard. Also people freaking shopping during a freaking holiday of thanks makes me sad to live amongst them.

/man that was a good j

Mrs. Beasley: Just donated $200. Let's do this!

hahahaha.well played.

Silly Jesus: Testiclaw: TiiiMMMaHHH: The workers are demanding the following from Walmart:

We should be demanding similar requirements for every human on this Earth.

Good for the WM employees for getting together to do this.

Pay everyone on earth $25,000 / year to stand around with their finger up their ass? What color is the magical unicorn that will deliver this money from magical money land?

What color is the Fed?

Anyway, there's always Amazon.....

Silly Jesus: MFAWG: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.

Wal-Mart hasn't filed for bankruptcy

Correct.

So the apple is not an orange

HotIgneous Intruder: I'm sure walmart is really struggling in this economy.
What's that you say? No way. Really?
Ok.
I'll just leave this here:
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
Well, goodness, it's true.
snip:
No. 9: Jim Walton, $23.7 billion
No. 10: Alice Walton, $23.3 billion
No. 11: S. Robson Walton, oldest son of Sam Walton, $23.1 billion
No. 103: Ann Walton Kroenke, $3.9 billion
No. 139: Nancy Walton Laurie, $3.4 billion

That's a grand total of $102.7 billion for the whole family.

Sylvia Allegretto, a labor economist at the Center on Wage and Employment Dynamics at the University of California-Berkeley, compared the Waltons' cumulative net worth with that of the overall population, as cited in the Survey of Consumer Finances. (She used the Waltons' wealth from 2010, which was valued at $89.5 billion.)

Allegretto found that in 2007, the wealth held by the six Waltons was equal to that of the bottom 30.5 percent of families in the U.S. In 2010, the Waltons' share equaled the entire bottom 41.5 percent of families.

Walmart can afford raises for everyone.

The CEO of my company has oodles of money. Do I deserve more of it just because he has lots of it?

That's some pretty derpy reasoning there, Lou.

A minimum of $25,000/year means the employee makes over $12 an hour. If I owned a convenience store, I wouldn't pay anybody but the managers above that. Sure, I am the asshole, but you aren't thinking long-term. I am the one motivating you to get out and get a real damn job, education, rich family, whatever. Just stop being pissed because you couldn't do anything better than to wear a tacky blue coat and wish me and my unwanted family a happy holiday.

apt311

I worked at Walmart while in college. Granted, a lot of my coworkers struggled with basic language arts, let alone what a second grader would consider kiddie math. I can honestly say that Walmart pays its employees just enough to shop at Walmart. Even if you make "manager", they're always p****ed off because they are moved around so much between stores that they are more worried about meeting corporate numbers than developing their subordinates.

Genius business plan; but has to fail at some point. Maybe this is that point?

I know all you little IT and other salaried peckers out there like to believe different, but you are paid exactly what you are worth. Thx for proving my point. You are owed exactly what you are worth, what job skills you bring to the table.

If it a living wage (laughable term) then so be it. If you can't make it on what you get a Wal Mart, the work another job. Work overnight at the Jack in the Box. Develop more marketable skills or basic learning as the redneck boys would say.

There will always be another idiot that chose to screw off in school rather than actually learn basic skills coming up right behind you.

MFAWG: Silly Jesus: MFAWG: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.

Wal-Mart hasn't filed for bankruptcy

Correct.

So the apple is not an orange

I was comparing the being fired for not showing up aspects. I didn't realize that I must compare every facet of each company.

I also concede that Wal-Mart doesn't manufacture Twinkies....

Silly Jesus: Hostess

Don't be too sure.
I was in a Harris Teeter market here in Virginia today and I went to the snack cake shelves.
Little Debbie Swiss Rolls were $1.27 per box.
Hostess HoHos were $4.49 a box, same sized box as the above.
In fact, all the hostess cakes, HoHos, Ding Dongs, Twinkies, Mini Mufffins and etc, were ALL $4.49 per box.

Something is out of whack there and I don't know what it is, but $4.49 for a box of the same size product seems like a losing deal.

DubtodaIll: When did we pass the place where the employees of a company, no matter the size, are not looked after by their employer in America? The primary pillar that Capitalism stood on during the Cold War is that the workers are treated well in trade for a job well done. I suppose the demands of a job at Wal-Mart are not all that demanding and hardly fulfilling for a full-realized human being but there is still work to be done to satisfy the demands of the American consumer in the ever-lasting battle towards the bottom of the barrel of prices. Even so, the more we demand out of one sack of meat at the lowest level of competent employment the further away from the shining star we hope to become we venture.
I'm all for it. If there's a large amount of participation in the strike the harder it will be to fill those vacated man hours in such a limited amount of time, thus giving higher ups pause against driving the line so hard. Also people freaking shopping during a freaking holiday of thanks makes me sad to live amongst them.

/man that was a good j

Jan 20th, 1981 was the exact date that hard work and loyalty stopped being valued by the private sector

wife's step mom and sister work for wally world. this story actually broke over a month ago. I don't know about other states, but Oklahoma is an at will state they can just tell them to fark off if they go through with this. wife's step and sister are planning on going in although begrudgingly. I know black Friday and all get the consumers spending, but how many of you older farts like me remember on Thanksgiving, nothing was open you had to wait until Friday.

Hunter_Worthington: oh,I know. they'll bring the same high quality employees and world class output they bring to the U.S. Public Education system.

//if I wanted to sit around all day going nowhere, I'd be a public school teacher
//those that can do, those that can't teach
// -Hunter, what about those who can't teach?
//good question. They become lobbyists. See teachers, you're not at the bottom of the food chain after all.

Hey look! Another HerpAderp that hates education! You have never worked as hard as a teacher and you never will. Not a teacher but I know a few. Most personal time consuming, thankless job that there is. Mostly because of fark-nuts like yourself.

To a certain degree I see the bleeding heart point...but 25k is about $12 dollars an hour. Expecting that in pay for a zero skills job is pretty ridiculous. Expecting it with health care is out of the question if you are trying to run the cheapest store in town.

I had 2-3 jobs going through college, crappy no skill jobs like Walmart. I did a good job, and didn't whine about the pay, but I didn't plan on staying for life. And working along side career minimum wagers really was a shot in the arm to finish my degree. If they choose to stay, then I choose not to care about their plight.

If we were talking about a skilled position, like machinists, then that would be totally different.

Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.

It's hard to "love" a place that locks people in at night and refuses to pay them, let alone pay them needed overtime.

But hey, keep on being clueless, we need people like that here on Fark.

Silly Jesus: HotIgneous Intruder: I'm sure walmart is really struggling in this economy.
What's that you say? No way. Really?
Ok.
I'll just leave this here:
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
Well, goodness, it's true.
snip:
No. 9: Jim Walton, $23.7 billion
No. 10: Alice Walton, $23.3 billion
No. 11: S. Robson Walton, oldest son of Sam Walton, $23.1 billion
No. 103: Ann Walton Kroenke, $3.9 billion
No. 139: Nancy Walton Laurie, $3.4 billion

That's a grand total of $102.7 billion for the whole family.

Sylvia Allegretto, a labor economist at the Center on Wage and Employment Dynamics at the University of California-Berkeley, compared the Waltons' cumulative net worth with that of the overall population, as cited in the Survey of Consumer Finances. (She used the Waltons' wealth from 2010, which was valued at $89.5 billion.)

Allegretto found that in 2007, the wealth held by the six Waltons was equal to that of the bottom 30.5 percent of families in the U.S. In 2010, the Waltons' share equaled the entire bottom 41.5 percent of families.

Walmart can afford raises for everyone.

The CEO of my company has oodles of money. Do I deserve more of it just because he has lots of it?

That's some pretty derpy reasoning there, Lou.

No.
Actually, that proves that they aren't hurting for money and they can afford to pay the employees who made them filthy rich better than subsistence wages, plus provide health insurance.
There's no excuse for such insanely wealthy people not to have a social conscience.

You obviously missed the magnitude of those figures and have no functional understanding of economics, troll.

atomic-age: How do you suggest employees sweetly get WM to stop locking them in to work 'off the clock', pay them enough that how to apply for welfare directions are not part of the pre-employment package, and to promote female and minority employees fairly?

Same way we solve every other problem in America. Lawyers.

gingerjet: So part of their plan is to pre-announce the walk out?

/I don't think they thought this all the way through

You don't understand how these things work, do you? You get the best results when you give the organization that you are protesting a chance to resolve the issue before D-Day. Also, it gets the word out, making it easier to get press coverage and find people familiar with the issue if the protest is carried out.

AdolfOliverPanties: I will gladly boycott Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

/just as I do on the other 364 days of the year

^^

Mikey1969: Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.

It's hard to "love" a place that locks people in at night and refuses to pay them, let alone pay them needed overtime.

But hey, keep on being clueless, we need people like that here on Fark.

Are they not capable of calling 911? That's called false imprisonment and it's a pretty serious felony.

ProudBoiler: How typical... someone who doesn't want to come to work also wants a "donation". Typical 99% garbage here. You want more money? Prove yourself as someone who should be paid more money. Become an asset to the company, not some mindless drone in the hive of collective bargaining.

Don't be knocking bees by comparing them to the average walmart pile of filth. Bees are fraking awesome!

HotIgneous Intruder: Silly Jesus: HotIgneous Intruder: I'm sure walmart is really struggling in this economy.
What's that you say? No way. Really?
Ok.
I'll just leave this here:
Bernie Sanders says Walmart heirs own more wealth than bottom 40 percent of Americans
Well, goodness, it's true.
snip:
No. 9: Jim Walton, $23.7 billion
No. 10: Alice Walton, $23.3 billion
No. 11: S. Robson Walton, oldest son of Sam Walton, $23.1 billion
No. 103: Ann Walton Kroenke, $3.9 billion
No. 139: Nancy Walton Laurie, $3.4 billion

That's a grand total of $102.7 billion for the whole family.

Sylvia Allegretto, a labor economist at the Center on Wage and Employment Dynamics at the University of California-Berkeley, compared the Waltons' cumulative net worth with that of the overall population, as cited in the Survey of Consumer Finances. (She used the Waltons' wealth from 2010, which was valued at $89.5 billion.)

Allegretto found that in 2007, the wealth held by the six Waltons was equal to that of the bottom 30.5 percent of families in the U.S. In 2010, the Waltons' share equaled the entire bottom 41.5 percent of families.

Walmart can afford raises for everyone.

The CEO of my company has oodles of money. Do I deserve more of it just because he has lots of it?

That's some pretty derpy reasoning there, Lou.

No.
Actually, that proves that they aren't hurting for money and they can afford to pay the employees who made them filthy rich better than subsistence wages, plus provide health insurance.
There's no excuse for such insanely wealthy people not to have a social conscience.

You obviously missed the magnitude of those figures and have no functional understanding of economics, troll.

No, derpy-doo. Standing in a doorway and saying hello to everyone is in no way deserving of $12 / hour + benefits. No matter how much the boss makes.

KrispyKritter: smash the windows, steal the merchandise, pretend you're black.

Cash your government check, drink a beer, post on fark.

Silly Jesus: Mikey1969: Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.

It's hard to "love" a place that locks people in at night and refuses to pay them, let alone pay them needed overtime.

But hey, keep on being clueless, we need people like that here on Fark.

Are they not capable of calling 911? That's called false imprisonment and it's a pretty serious felony.

LULZ! Enough money > justice!

rolladuck: ProudBoiler: How typical... someone who doesn't want to come to work also wants a "donation". Typical 99% garbage here. You want more money? Prove yourself as someone who should be paid more money. Become an asset to the company, not some mindless drone in the hive of collective bargaining.

Don't be knocking bees by comparing them to the average walmart pile of filth. Bees are fraking awesome!

Damned not previewing

krafty420: Does this mean there will be double the trampling at other big box stores?

I prefer to do all of my Christmas trampling at Wal-Mart.

And unemployment will be?

/Yeah, economic recovery, sure.

Silly Jesus: No, derpy-doo. Standing in a doorway and saying hello to everyone is in no way deserving of $12 / hour + benefits. No matter how much the boss makes.

Troll. When you get middle aged and the workforce disposes of you for a cheaper kid and you can't find a job, you'll be glad to do that derpy work.
Karma's a batch who never sleeps.
Rest well in the hell you've helped create, Amerikun.

I won't be shopping there that's for sure.

Solidarity and Success, workers!

KrispyKritter: smash the windows, steal the merchandise, pretend you're black.

So...just another day after Thanksgiving, huh?

erveek: Silly Jesus: Mikey1969: Silly Jesus: LULZ. I hope they are all fired. Plenty more people out there who would love their job.

It's hard to "love" a place that locks people in at night and refuses to pay them, let alone pay them needed overtime.

But hey, keep on being clueless, we need people like that here on Fark.

Are they not capable of calling 911? That's called false imprisonment and it's a pretty serious felony.

LULZ! Enough money > justice!

So people are being falsely imprisoned and contacting the local police and the Walton's are flying in and paying them off so that they ignore the imprisoned people? What brand of tinfoil is your favorite?

HotIgneous Intruder: Silly Jesus: No, derpy-doo. Standing in a doorway and saying hello to everyone is in no way deserving of $12 / hour + benefits. No matter how much the boss makes.

Troll. When you get middle aged and the workforce disposes of you for a cheaper kid and you can't find a job, you'll be glad to do that derpy work.
Karma's a batch who never sleeps.
Rest well in the hell you've helped create, Amerikun.

Lol. 0 skill jobs are still not worth $12 an hour no matter how much your heart bleeds.