AdolfOliverPanties: Shadow Blasko: [Although apparently you can have until 8 if you blow your department manager... at least at one store]Nice friends you have there.
real_headhoncho: Hmmm... I wonder if I should apply for a job at Wal Mart.
Nick Nostril: timujin: Silly Jesus: There's an endless supply of dimwits who need some extra walking around money for cigarettes and lottery tickets. I don't think that Wal-mart is at much risk of running out of a "qualified" applicant pool.That's where you and I disagree, I think the supply is limited. Would you work there? I wouldn't. Have you ever met any dimwits that you wouldn't trust to know which end of a mop to use? I have. Once you eliminate those people, people who can't communicate, people who have other limiting factors such as a criminal record, you do have a finite available workforce. Now, there are obviously more people who would take the job than are currently employed by the company, but I still believe that those people, once they are employed, will reach the same level off discontent that the current employees have. Eventually you run out of people who are willing to take the shiatty job. Add to that the cost of on-boarding and training new employees and it can be less costly to meet the employees demands, or at least come to some sort of middle ground.It's kind of like the people who pick vegetables going on strike. Sure, there are other people willing to take their jobs, but not many and once those people realize how difficult the work is and how shiatty the conditions are, they too get fed up and go on strike. Eventually the growers run out of available employees and are forced to make concessions.At this level of employment, if Wally World runs piss tests, and I'm sure they do, I'm surprised they aren't forced to staff the store with robots due to lack of qualified applicants./there's only so many octegenarians left to fill these spots
mbillips: Errbody knows this is just a few Wal-Marts in California, right? The rest of the country's obese dunderheads can riot over discounted Christmas toys to their heart's content.
Sliding Carp: $5.00 says the party of small government, individual freedom, and free market will find a way to claim the government should force them back to work.
Bit'O'Gristle: Good luck to them, although huge corporations like this generally don't give a rats ass about the workers, they just care about the bottom line. But i do wish them well. They should really unionize and actually have some bargaining power.
insertsnarkyusername: The can ask for a union and the company legally has to say yes.
Lsherm: Sliding Carp: $5.00 says the party of small government, individual freedom, and free market will find a way to claim the government should force them back to work.Unemployment is still high enough they can be replaced. Sucks, but true, especially since it doesn't look like this is a nationwide-coordinated effort. If they could get all the workers in all the stores to strike on the same day it would be very effective.
fanbladesaresharp: I don't mean to be a dick but that's not worthy of $25k a year AND benefits.
AdolfOliverPanties: I will gladly boycott Wal-Mart on Black Friday./just as I do on the other 364 days of the year
pxlboy: Bit'O'Gristle: Good luck to them, although huge corporations like this generally don't give a rats ass about the workers, they just care about the bottom line. But i do wish them well. They should really unionize and actually have some bargaining power.Wal-Mart has actively engaged in union-busting for years. They're trying to break the will and the backs of labor to bring them on wage parity with China.
Hunter_Worthington: //good question. They become lobbyists. See teachers, you're not at the bottom of the food chain after all.
WhippingBoy: Walmart isn't a store; it's an alternate dimension.Think about it. Every Walmart you've ever been in, from Lickcock Idaho to Bahrain, has the same people. I don't mean they look the same, I mean they *are* the same.The doors you pass through are a gateway to this dimension.Think about it. You know I'm right.
Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.
Hunter_Worthington: I wonder what Labor's pitch to wal-mart's workers is?"let us do for you, what we've done to the U.S. Auto and steel industries"At least Wal-Mart got a free way to identify lazy, shiftless, braindead workers. They'll fire the dead wood, and the company will be better off.//any defeat for organized Labor is a victory for the American Economy.
mbillips: mbillips: Errbody knows this is just a few Wal-Marts in California, right? The rest of the country's obese dunderheads can riot over discounted Christmas toys to their heart's content.I stand corrected; that was the first "strike" (actually a brief walkout). They're claiming more than 1,000 protests of various types around the country.This is fairly smart on the union's part. Wal-Mart is absolutely crazed about avoiding union organizing, and they are leaving themselves open to vast expense and potential liability under fair-labor laws because of their allegedly illegal tactics.The union isn't forcing a flat-out strike that they would lose, because Wal-Mart has no union contract and can just hire replacements, But by constantly trolling Wal-Mart with small actions, the union can put pressure on them, and recruit enough workers to successfully unionize stores. Wal-Mart knows it's way more expensive to recruit and hire a new worker than to put up with one who takes the occasional "strike" day off.Considering Wal-Mart is owned by a clan of over-entitled billionaires whose great achievement in life was being born the kids and grandkids of Sam Walton, I say screw 'em. I hope they drive themselves bankrupt trying to avoid treating their workers as well as other big retail chains do.
liam76: I am not generally "pro-union" but it seems there are a ton of abuses there that are illegal, I hope this can get Wal-Mart to follow the law.
Sergeant Grumbles: Is there some reason working for Wal-Mart need not be gainful employment besides your opinion of what counts as work?
rolladuck: insertsnarkyusername: The can ask for a union and the company legally has to say yes.The company can also legally shut down those stores. And re-open others in the next town where there is high unemployment of un- or marginally-skilled workers.Unions aren't the be-all and end-all of employer-employee relationship management. And you catch more flies with honey than vinegar, ... at least metaphorically.
Smelly McUgly: Silly Jesus: Maybe it will shape up like the Hostess strike. Hostess told the workers that if they went on strike they would shutter the factories and fire them all. They went on strike...Hostess closed the factories...the workers went all WHARGARBLLL "yall took are jerbs!" It was beeeautiful.I am looking forward to Hostess going out of business. Good. One less crappy company making terrible products and screwing their employees. It's the free market; someone else will pop up and maybe do things right the next time.
jaytkay: I fully support the right of Walmart workers to decent wages, benefits and working conditions.Except I have never set foot in their crummy stores and hope I never will./ True story// Not sure what it means, feel free to explain
Ehcks: Doing it wrong! You're not supposed to say you're doing it. You just don't show up!
Howlin Mad Murphy: How do you assholes want it? You biatch and moan about a lot of these same people being on welfare, then you want to put them down for standing up for themselves and demanding livable wages. Oooh, please someone save the multi-billion dollar corporation! They shouldn't have to pay their employees anymore because they are worthless pieces of shiat that knew what they were getting into. Give me a farking break.
Nonesuch: Good luck... you're going to need it./Follow up article next week about these employees getting fired....
El Dudereno: You can simply fire everyone and hire scabs, but that's only a temporary solution because eventually you run out of people willing to do shiatty work for low pay who are also qualified.
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