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(The Age (Melbourne))   Catholic Church in Australia spends $400k in donations for legal fees defending two priests accused of sexual assaults against children in their care. Wait, did I say accused? I mean already tried, convicted and sentenced   (theage.com.au) divider line 8
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2012-11-15 10:57:35 PM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope: Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.


I've also heard, from multiple sources, that Hasidic Jews are almost all on government assistance because they spend their time studying the Torah, Talmud, and other Jewish literature. And yet oddly enough, religious people taking advantage of the system to spend their time in religious activities is never discussed when the concept of "welfare reform" comes up.

Very strange.
2012-11-16 10:27:43 AM  
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As I've said many times before, if you give these people money you're supporting child rape.

Not one cent. Let the vatical sell some shiat.

PS Religion = Superstition + $$$$$
2012-11-16 01:42:18 AM  
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simplicimus: Ah, crap, here we go again. Contraception, abortion, the death penalty and euthanasia are all against God's will for an individual my personal religious beliefs. Pedophilia and other affairs by priests violate the vow of Chasity, and they (by Church law) should be defrocked and excommunicated. Why these people are protected by the Church, I have no justification.


I happen to think God LOVES contraception and euthanasia. And I think She's at least ok with abortion, if not a big fan.

Why is your interpretation of God's will (or Ratzinger's interpretation) any more valid than my own? By what argument would you convince a rational, impartial party to agree with your views instead of mine? 

Or did you simply forget to preface your statement with "The official Catholic position is that ...."?
2012-11-16 12:05:05 AM  
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Bit'O'Gristle: AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?

/Seriously, what do you want the administration to do? The Catholic church is a powerful state unto itself, with tons of cash, lobbyists, and connections in the house, senate, and pretty much all levels of the US government. They have too many God fearing powerful people on their side to do anything. So actively going against the church is like taking on Social Security, which is like grabbing the third rail. You touch it , you die. Political suicide.

 

Around here (Australia), not so much. The prime minister (that's "president" to you yanks) has just announced a sweeping public enquiry into sexual abuse in the church, with strong bi-partisan support - which is a surprisingly good result, considering that the leader of the opposition attended a Jesuit school and actually entered a seminary to study for the priesthood prior to taking up politics: Link 

/I guess now we need to see if she is serious enough to appoint a commissioner who will get the job done rather than just aiding and abetting the existing cover-up to protect their political colleagues...
2012-11-15 11:46:26 PM  
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AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?


/Seriously, what do you want the administration to do? The Catholic church is a powerful state unto itself, with tons of cash, lobbyists, and connections in the house, senate, and pretty much all levels of the US government. They have too many God fearing powerful people on their side to do anything. So actively going against the church is like taking on Social Security, which is like grabbing the third rail. You touch it , you die. Political suicide.
2012-11-15 09:21:16 PM  
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Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.

Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.

Monasteries are signing up women now?


Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.
2012-11-15 08:52:44 PM  
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Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.


Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.
2012-11-15 08:25:21 PM  
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