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(The Age (Melbourne))   Catholic Church in Australia spends $400k in donations for legal fees defending two priests accused of sexual assaults against children in their care. Wait, did I say accused? I mean already tried, convicted and sentenced   (theage.com.au) divider line 69
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2012-11-16 02:51:32 AM

Godscrack: Farxist Marxist: an irate parent/sibling/parishioner/cop

You'd be surprised how many of these authority figures are actually involved/close an eye in abuse of kids.


all of them? The amount of abuse which goes on is INSANE. The never ending "blame the victim" is the most tragic thing I have ever seen in life.
 
2012-11-16 02:54:44 AM

simplicimus: Why these people are protected by the Church, I have no justification.


The best bet is that if you cut them off, they would have no reason to keep quiet.
 
2012-11-16 03:00:28 AM
And this, and many other examples like it, is why the catholic church will forever be known as "The Pedophile Protection Society" (always accepting new members).
 
2012-11-16 06:42:39 AM
Jeezus, Catholicism. Will you stop it with the whole Pedo Protection bit? Have you not figured out that people don't like it?
 
2012-11-16 06:48:25 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?

/Seriously, what do you want the administration to do? The Catholic church is a powerful state unto itself, with tons of cash, lobbyists, and connections in the house, senate, and pretty much all levels of the US government. They have too many God fearing powerful people on their side to do anything. So actively going against the church is like taking on Social Security, which is like grabbing the third rail. You touch it , you die. Political suicide.


Well given the story is Australian, it's extremely relevant to point out that the Australian Federal Government announced just this week that it will hold a Royal Commission into sex abuse committed against children by institutions who should have known better. It's not limited to the Catholics, but expect this to be a big part of the proceedings. Cardinal Pell, already mentioned in this thread as a classic example of a dickhead Catholic priest, got himself KO'd in the press conference he held on the issue. Classic.
 
2012-11-16 07:37:59 AM
If only there were some special place for those who abuse children, perhaps ruled by a creature who doesn't give a damn about how many donations you make or how many times you say you're sorry.
 
2012-11-16 08:39:55 AM
Line of duty I guess. Ordinary business expense. Whatever.
 
2012-11-16 08:41:51 AM

Pharmdawg: If only there were some special place for those who abuse children, perhaps ruled by a creature who doesn't give a damn about how many donations you make or how many times you say you're sorry.


But, sadly, since magic is not real, if these pedos and pedo protectors are going to be punished it is going to have to happen here on Earth by real people.
 
2012-11-16 10:21:53 AM

ciberido: simplicimus: Ah, crap, here we go again. Contraception, abortion, the death penalty and euthanasia are all against God's will for an individual my personal religious beliefs. Pedophilia and other affairs by priests violate the vow of Chasity, and they (by Church law) should be defrocked and excommunicated. Why these people are protected by the Church, I have no justification.

I happen to think God LOVES contraception and euthanasia. And I think She's at least ok with abortion, if not a big fan.

Why is your interpretation of God's will (or Ratzinger's interpretation) any more valid than my own? By what argument would you convince a rational, impartial party to agree with your views instead of mine? 

Or did you simply forget to preface your statement with "The official Catholic position is that ...."?


I thought it was understood that it was the official Church position. Sorry if I was unclear.
 
2012-11-16 10:27:43 AM
As I've said many times before, if you give these people money you're supporting child rape.

Not one cent. Let the vatical sell some shiat.

PS Religion = Superstition + $$$$$
 
2012-11-16 10:32:13 AM

Lsherm: Mugato: It's one thing to be religious and believe...whatever but how do you people actually give money to the Catholic Church?

It's like paying taxes - some of it goes to good stuff, some of it bad. In the long run, I like to believe the majority of it goes to the good stuff.

Also, Catholic churches (at least the ones I've been a member of) sometimes take up two collections in mass - one for the parish, which sends part of the funds to the Vatican, and another for a specific charitable order, which uses the money for charity. So if you have a beef with the church government you can avoid giving to it if you want to.


One big difference from taxes - you go to jail if you don't pay taxes.
 
2012-11-16 10:32:48 AM

simplicimus: AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?

We should invade Australia? I wouldn't. Everything there wants to kill you.


Not the women.
 
2012-11-16 10:55:59 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: simplicimus: AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?

We should invade Australia? I wouldn't. Everything there wants to kill you.

Not the women.


Ok, not the women. Probably not the Koalas or wallabies. But everything else?
 
2012-11-16 11:22:31 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.


Monk = Male-onk, therefore a female monk is a "fonk."
 
2012-11-16 11:35:43 AM

PunGent: A moment's carelessness, and an unreliable witness, and that could be you.


Actually, that was after a series of allegations and a parade of witnesses who testified that they had been abused by the guy for years.

He was defrocked, kicked out of the church so that the victims couldn't sue the church. The statute of limitations prevented the guy from being arrested for his prior offenses. The grabbing the boy by the butt incident was the opening that allowed the law to finally catch up to him.


The more you know...
 
2012-11-16 11:35:54 AM

HailRobonia: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.

Monk = Male-onk, therefore a female monk is a "fonk."


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2012-11-16 12:39:22 PM

maddogdelta: PunGent: A moment's carelessness, and an unreliable witness, and that could be you.

Actually, that was after a series of allegations and a parade of witnesses who testified that they had been abused by the guy for years.

He was defrocked, kicked out of the church so that the victims couldn't sue the church. The statute of limitations prevented the guy from being arrested for his prior offenses. The grabbing the boy by the butt incident was the opening that allowed the law to finally catch up to him.


The more you know...


Oh, he may well have done everything alleged, and worse.

Not trying to defend the guy...just pointing out that what he was ACTUALLY convicted of? Not that bad...and not deserving of getting killed for.

Anyone who's ever roughhoused with a kid has probably done the same thing.
 
2012-11-16 01:18:25 PM
What else are they going to do with that money?

Priorities people priorities.
 
2012-11-16 05:26:50 PM
If we just allow people to have sex with children this wouldn't be an issue.
 
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