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(The Atlantic Wire)   Apparently even the NY Times staff doesn't pay attention to the NY Times food critic as the newspaper just held a party for 150 people at Guy Fieri's new restaurant-the one the critic savaged in a review three days ago   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 144
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2012-11-15 06:12:38 PM

borg: Pure and total bullshiat. I see him all the time in my SF neighborhood, his cars are stored in SF, he's partners in a SF restaurant one of his JG restaurants is in the middle of the biggest "Bear" vacation meccas of the world. I seriously doubt Guy has problems with gay people.


Yeah! After all, if he didn't like gay people, he'd never consider taking their money. You know, on principle.
 
2012-11-15 06:12:49 PM
dammit. Should be "over the other two anyday"
 
2012-11-15 06:16:45 PM

saintstryfe: Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing without bogging it down with any of the heavy thinking or culinary insights Bourdain brings to the table. It skips the foreplay and goes straight to a near constant montage of money shots: Feiri eating gloriously greasy, sloppy food and making ogasmic noises as he does

So? Rachel Ray does the same things.

Food TV isn't just chefs, get over it. He's got a good sense. He's a legitimate cook, despite not having formal chef training. He's run several succesful resturants. He likes what he does and his passion shows through.

Is it a little grating at times? yes. But all cooking shows are - once and a while I look at Alton Brown and shake my head (Turkey Derrick ring a bell?). But I love AB - and while Guy isn't my favorite, at least he's a bit colorful.


I've cooked some of Guy's recipes and some of Rachel's. Rachel's recipes are NOT good. Guy has some decent ones out there.

Your best bet for Food Network recipes are still Anne Burrell and Alton Brown though.
 
2012-11-15 06:20:43 PM

Soulcatcher: saintstryfe: Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing without bogging it down with any of the heavy thinking or culinary insights Bourdain brings to the table. It skips the foreplay and goes straight to a near constant montage of money shots: Feiri eating gloriously greasy, sloppy food and making ogasmic noises as he does

So? Rachel Ray does the same things.

Food TV isn't just chefs, get over it. He's got a good sense. He's a legitimate cook, despite not having formal chef training. He's run several succesful resturants. He likes what he does and his passion shows through.

Is it a little grating at times? yes. But all cooking shows are - once and a while I look at Alton Brown and shake my head (Turkey Derrick ring a bell?). But I love AB - and while Guy isn't my favorite, at least he's a bit colorful.

I've cooked some of Guy's recipes and some of Rachel's. Rachel's recipes are NOT good. Guy has some decent ones out there.

Your best bet for Food Network recipes are still Anne Burrell and Alton Brown though.


No way, Sandra Lee has the most awesome recipes.
 
2012-11-15 06:27:04 PM

Shazam999: No way, Sandra Lee has the most awesome recipes.


Indeed. Her Kwanzaa cake is orgasmic.
 
2012-11-15 06:28:42 PM
Look, I'm a huge pussy and will run from violence without hesitation. But given the chance I'd punch him in his face.


//He has a very punchable face.
 
2012-11-15 06:28:45 PM

JonZoidberg: Elzar: From the sentence in the Career section of his Wikipedia page:

"Although Fieri has no training as a chef...

And thats all you need to know.

There was a recent episode of DDD where he was in Vegas and he went to UNLV and showed off their culinary arts program that he was in. I guess it's not Le Cordon Bleu but I bet he can run a restaurant better than I can.


He has a degree in Hotel Management.
 
2012-11-15 06:32:38 PM
Fieri lost me when I re-watched his in depth smooze on the Parkette here where I am. It kinda looked laid on, what with the fact that the restaurant had just reopened after nearly 60 years of working same menu/same crew/same basic MO. The new owners just hadn't had time to burn in the grills yet, even. Plus, they came and filmed it (a drive-in) in February (IIRC) What, you've seen a drive in with no cars? Yeah, usually that means they are closed.
Now for all you who don't know, Parkette is a traditional '50s drive-in. space for 80 or so cars, drive up and park menus with articulated tray stands to take the place of the cupholders inside the car that weren't there yet. The menu is super simple, never changes, except for pricing. There's memorabilia inside with a couple of original menus from 1950 era. They match right up to the current day menus, very little has changed. These people found a winner early on. It didn't help that Mcdonald's opened one of their very first hamburger stands in Kentucky right down the road. Remember, this was state of the art in 1950, now it's just vintage...even has the vintage carhops. Really vintage. One of the other owners employee's was like 70 when she moved inside to the desk. She may still be there...
It was all part of the attraction, much like The Varsity in Atlanta.

Parkette doesn't feature fusion flavors, new Asian cuisine, or even a basic sit down dinner. It's fast food from the '50s, and Fieri blew it. Just kinda treated it like this was special, and tried so hard. But it wasn't there. The whole episode came of as I said, contrived and laid on.
 
2012-11-15 06:39:43 PM

Tax Boy: AdolfOliverPanties: He has another show on Food Network where he cooks a meal each episode in his kitchen.

On Food Network? I think not. They don't have any cooking shows any more. It's all game shows and travelogues and candy factories.


They do still have cooking shows, but if you work 9-5 M-F and sleep in on the weekends you won't ever see any of them.
 
2012-11-15 06:43:44 PM

Grandemadaca: Guy's target customer:
[blogs.telegraph.co.uk image 460x370]


Duane Hanson sculptures? Surely farkers aren't that bereft of culture so much that they don't recognize art... bahahahaha
 
2012-11-15 06:49:59 PM

Joe Peanut: Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing

Never watched this Guy's show, but how can anyone badmouth Bourdain's? No Reservations was one of the very few great shows on TV. You learned about the history and local culture of different places through its cuisine. The shows he did recently on my two home towns (Rio de Janeiro and Brooklyn) were spot on as far as capturing some of the local culture and with a lot of respect for the cultures even when making jokes. He was a very respected writer before the show came along, and it is reflected in the quality of the writing on the show.

On the other hand this Guy dude strikes me as the kind who would go to some remote village in some far away country and try to convince the locals that his way is better and he is cooler than them.


Not ripping on Bourdain. Love him, think he's probably wasted as a chef-author rather than a full-on writer, but he's a bright guy who doesn't dumb that down for his show
 
2012-11-15 06:58:37 PM
Triple DDD is fun to watch. I travel a lot and make an effort to hit some of the places he highlights on the show.

I also went to Sant Ambroeus based on "The Best Thing I Ever Ate" just to try that chocolate mousse.

They were right, it's pretty good.
 
2012-11-15 06:59:32 PM

Shazam999: Soulcatcher: saintstryfe: Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing without bogging it down with any of the heavy thinking or culinary insights Bourdain brings to the table. It skips the foreplay and goes straight to a near constant montage of money shots: Feiri eating gloriously greasy, sloppy food and making ogasmic noises as he does

So? Rachel Ray does the same things.

Food TV isn't just chefs, get over it. He's got a good sense. He's a legitimate cook, despite not having formal chef training. He's run several succesful resturants. He likes what he does and his passion shows through.

Is it a little grating at times? yes. But all cooking shows are - once and a while I look at Alton Brown and shake my head (Turkey Derrick ring a bell?). But I love AB - and while Guy isn't my favorite, at least he's a bit colorful.

I've cooked some of Guy's recipes and some of Rachel's. Rachel's recipes are NOT good. Guy has some decent ones out there.

Your best bet for Food Network recipes are still Anne Burrell and Alton Brown though.

No way, Sandra Lee has the most awesome recipes.


Especially her Kwanzaa Cake sprinkled with corn nuts.

teehee
 
2012-11-15 07:00:16 PM
So... Karl Welzein just did his response to the NY Times article.

/I love you, Internet.
 
2012-11-15 07:00:57 PM
http://flint.craigslist.org/rnr/3411956576.html - The link in question.

STupid internet.
 
2012-11-15 07:03:47 PM

The Billdozer: http://flint.craigslist.org/rnr/3411956576.html - The link in question.

STupid internet.


tl;dr
 
2012-11-15 07:07:59 PM

Treetop1000: Fieri lost me when I re-watched his in depth smooze on the Parkette here where I am. It kinda looked laid on, what with the fact that the restaurant had just reopened after nearly 60 years of working same menu/same crew/same basic MO. The new owners just hadn't had time to burn in the grills yet, even. Plus, they came and filmed it (a drive-in) in February (IIRC) What, you've seen a drive in with no cars? Yeah, usually that means they are closed.
Now for all you who don't know, Parkette is a traditional '50s drive-in. space for 80 or so cars, drive up and park menus with articulated tray stands to take the place of the cupholders inside the car that weren't there yet. The menu is super simple, never changes, except for pricing. There's memorabilia inside with a couple of original menus from 1950 era. They match right up to the current day menus, very little has changed. These people found a winner early on. It didn't help that Mcdonald's opened one of their very first hamburger stands in Kentucky right down the road. Remember, this was state of the art in 1950, now it's just vintage...even has the vintage carhops. Really vintage. One of the other owners employee's was like 70 when she moved inside to the desk. She may still be there...
It was all part of the attraction, much like The Varsity in Atlanta.

Parkette doesn't feature fusion flavors, new Asian cuisine, or even a basic sit down dinner. It's fast food from the '50s, and Fieri blew it. Just kinda treated it like this was special, and tried so hard. But it wasn't there. The whole episode came of as I said, contrived and laid on.


Some years back he came and did his thing at a place called "The Shanty" in Wadsworth, Il. My wife use to go there about 2 times a year to meet with some people we knew who liked the place. For us the food was o.k., but nothing to write home about. Then Fieri came in and right after that the prices went up but the food was the same. We've never been back.
 
2012-11-15 07:13:43 PM

Soulcatcher: Your best bet for Food Network recipes are still Anne Burrell and Alton Brown though.


Not sure about Altons - watch a show then look up the recipe on foodtv - its different more often than not.

/also - liked Brown when he was overweight and not a huge dick
 
2012-11-15 07:15:37 PM
cornellsun.com
 
2012-11-15 07:22:51 PM
Heh, I'd take a Guy Fieri over a boring, self-important douche like Bourdain any day.
 
2012-11-15 07:25:41 PM

Marcus Aurelius: tnpir: That NY Times review did seem unnecessarily nasty. I'm sure this place isn't five-star by any means, but it's probably passable.

That said, Guy Fieri is a massive douche. I mean, EIGHT MILLION in earnings annually? How is this FAIR?

How is it POSSIBLE?


You're obviously not in television. He has multiple shows, many restaurants, probably does speaking engagements all over which he gets paid for. I am actually surprised he makes that little. A-Rod got $29M last year to suck at playing a game.
 
2012-11-15 07:26:43 PM
I've tried watching Guy's show, and all it does is make me think of how much I miss Feasting on Asphalt.

/Alton Brown... now there's a cooking show host
 
2012-11-15 07:29:53 PM

gingerjet: Soulcatcher: Your best bet for Food Network recipes are still Anne Burrell and Alton Brown though.

Not sure about Altons - watch a show then look up the recipe on foodtv - its different more often than not.

/also - liked Brown when he was overweight and not a huge dick


I've found that is true with quite a few of the recipes on Food Network.com. I wanted to make a Chicago Style Beef that Fieri had made on FN and the posted recipe lacked a couple of ingredients and some key cooking steps.
 
2012-11-15 07:36:12 PM
Come back to Ferndale, CA Guy. We'll tell you exactly how full of shiat you are about your "upbringings".

/awesome pretzel my ass.
 
2012-11-15 07:39:26 PM

JasonThomasX: Not a surprise...

Guy Fierey is FAMOUS after all


If those slut Kardashians can pull it off, why not?
 
2012-11-15 07:48:58 PM
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-15 07:50:17 PM

Magorn: he's a bright guy who doesn't dumb that down for his show


He would disagree with you.
 
2012-11-15 07:52:07 PM

Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: I want to see Guy Fieri and Nickelback guest star on the Big Bang Theory just to listen to the sound of every Fark Hipster's head explode like a firecracker. Might be a little nicer around here.

For the record, I like DDD
and the Big Bang Theory
hate Nickelback though.


When did it become hipster to not actively pursue the consumption of total farking garbage?
 
2012-11-15 08:00:38 PM
Guy Fiery is to cooking what Kiss is to rock and roll.


You'll amuse the hell out of people who have no idea what actual cooking/rock is.
 
2012-11-15 08:09:37 PM

o5iiawah: Guy Fiery is to cooking what Kiss is to rock and roll.


You'll amuse the hell out of people who have no idea what actual cooking/rock is.


What is actual cooking/rock?

I'm dying to know!
 
2012-11-15 08:17:13 PM
You know who's a bigger douche, Pete Wells. He went to an American restaurant that served burgers and fries and expected to be served intricate plates of food. He's a Link
 
2012-11-15 08:19:29 PM

o5iiawah: Guy Fiery is to cooking what Kiss is to rock and roll.


You'll amuse the hell out of people who have no idea what actual cooking/rock is.


BLASPHEMER !
 
2012-11-15 08:51:10 PM

fusillade762: I always wonder what happens if he goes to some diner/drive-in/dive and the food totally sucks?

And WTF is up with his aversion to eggs??? How can you review a breakfast joint if you never eat eggs?


That's one of the reasons I love DDD despite Guy being a douche. I farking hate eggs and Guy scrapes them off into the trash where they belong.
 
2012-11-15 08:52:32 PM

tnpir: That NY Times review did seem unnecessarily nasty. I'm sure this place isn't five-star by any means, but it's probably passable.

That said, Guy Fieri is a massive douche. I mean, EIGHT MILLION in earnings annually? How is this FAIR?


You sound socialist.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:10 PM
Editorial Department ≠ Advertising Department


Would love to smack Fairyer upside his head with a frying pan to knock the sunglasses off

Hate people that wear sunglasses on the back of their head
 
2012-11-15 09:21:23 PM
Did he set them up with some special sauce?
 
2012-11-15 10:24:44 PM

umad: Shyla: I would give him a chance if he wasn't so much of a douche that he refuses to pronounce his name properly because it's too close to fairy. It's FEE AIRY. Instead, he adds some imaginary constants in it and makes it FEE ETTI. Tongue rolls do not = T.
Besides the fact he's a raging homophobe, his pinky rings, his forearm sweatbands, his stupid backwards sun glasses, his insistence on using words like "Money!" to describe something that tastes good (People even got sick of Emeril's BAM! - come on!) and this douche Feiri has like 4 slogans he repeats ad nauseam during every single show.
Screw that. The review was hilarious and everyone I've ever known that's met Guy says he is a raging douche, so hard to be sympathetic.

Guy could follow me around 24/7 spouting one-liners through a megaphone and he wouldn't be as obnoxious as 30 seconds of listening to Rachel Ray. Give me Giada and her magnificent "personalities" anyday.


You mean Giardia?

/always read her name that way
 
2012-11-15 11:37:24 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I am probably in the minority (Obama, where's my free stuff?) but I like his show. It's not appointment television or anything, but if Triple-D is on, I'll watch it if I'm bored.

Good to know family owned and mom and pop restaurants are out there, not completely run out of business by Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin etc franchises everywhere.


My aunt has been on his show
.. I still hate him. Although the PR always helps I guess.
 
2012-11-15 11:39:01 PM

HeartBurnKid: I've tried watching Guy's show, and all it does is make me think of how much I miss Feasting on Asphalt.

/Alton Brown... now there's a cooking show host


He's the best.
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-16 12:24:52 AM
F*** the NYT until it dies

Good for lining bird cages and that's the sum total of their worth
 
2012-11-16 12:25:17 AM
I've never met him myself, but from what my father's said I get the impression that Guy-the-person isn't as douchy and obnoxious as Guy-the-TV-personality. My parent's backyard shares a fencepost with Guy's backyard, and that part of the fence needed to be redone a few years ago.

I moved out on my own long before Guy bought the place.

/CSB, I know I know...
 
2012-11-16 12:34:40 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: o5iiawah: Guy Fiery is to cooking what Kiss is to rock and roll.


You'll amuse the hell out of people who have no idea what actual cooking/rock is.

What is actual cooking/rock?

I'm dying to know!


I like early-80s Alice Cooper; the underappreciated stuff. "Funhouse" by the Stooges. CCR. Prairie Home Companion if I'm doing something "homey". Skinny Puppy collections. Ooh - if you're feeling particularly bleeding-meat and high-falutin', play the Goldberg Variations by Glenn Gould. Makes you get all Lecter-esque!
 
2012-11-16 03:20:09 AM

cynicalMFer: I've never met him myself, but from what my father's said I get the impression that Guy-the-person isn't as douchy and obnoxious as Guy-the-TV-personality. My parent's backyard shares a fencepost with Guy's backyard, and that part of the fence needed to be redone a few years ago.

I moved out on my own long before Guy bought the place.

/CSB, I know I know...


He's not a douche! I've been to his restaurant twice so far, and even met him at the grand opening party, he stopped to take pictures with my friends and even chatted with us for a bit. The food really isn't that bad, and you can tell everyone there is really trying to make it pleasant for the customers. The NY times reviewer was waaaay too harsh.
 
2012-11-16 08:09:15 AM
Goes to show that there's no such thing as bad publicity.
 
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