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(The Atlantic Wire)   Apparently even the NY Times staff doesn't pay attention to the NY Times food critic as the newspaper just held a party for 150 people at Guy Fieri's new restaurant-the one the critic savaged in a review three days ago   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 144
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2012-11-15 04:51:09 PM

NowhereMon: AdolfOliverPanties: I am probably in the minority (Obama, where's my free stuff?) but I like his show. It's not appointment television or anything, but if Triple-D is on, I'll watch it if I'm bored.

Good to know family owned and mom and pop restaurants are out there, not completely run out of business by Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin etc franchises everywhere.

This. If I'm on the road and I have a chance to hit a place like that over a chain I will do so. Jane and Michael Stern have also been to about a million places like this, and nobody is complaining about them, probably because no one has a clue who they are. Snobby Fieri-haters probably would say he ripped them off.

http://www.roadfood.com/


That looks like an awesome site thank you
 
2012-11-15 04:51:14 PM
Meh. Even if they did, they wouldn't have been able to reschedule an event that size in three days.
 
2012-11-15 04:51:47 PM
 
2012-11-15 04:52:29 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: He has another show on Food Network where he cooks a meal each episode in his kitchen.


On Food Network? I think not. They don't have any cooking shows any more. It's all game shows and travelogues and candy factories.
 
2012-11-15 04:53:00 PM
anthony bourdain is a much bigger douchebag. i don't care for either but as has been said, if i am bored i will watch their shows.
 
2012-11-15 04:53:24 PM

starlost: FTFA: When your entire business is built around bringing "real food" to "real Americans," you can't ask for a better advertisement than a downward sneer from the bible of East Coast Liberal Elites.

Pretty much this.

Guy's target customer:

did you know he has his burger joints on some carnival cruise ships? it isn't part of the 24/7 free buffet stuff. its a pay restaurant and although i have never been in there i heard a passenger rave because they give you all the french fries you want and refill your milkshake.


My dad is one of those people. Quantity trumps quality for him any day of the week. He will blacklist any restaurant that charges for soda refills and if you don't feel sickly full after your meal, you didn't get your money's worth.
 
2012-11-15 04:53:29 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Whenever he eats food his face and face hair combination conjure up images of the nastiest, greasiest vagina you've ever seen in your life. I'm not talking about good pussy here, people. I'm talking about "fat lady just dropped a kid and wants you to immediately go yodeling at the Y."

Yeah. Tell me you're hungry.


That is the nastiest, most horribly graphic thing I have read in a long time.
Kudos.

/Also, I lol'd
 
2012-11-15 04:55:20 PM
you can't ask for a better advertisement than a downward sneer from the bible of East Coast Liberal Elites.

If you need an even better advertisement than that, The New York Times itself reportedly held a party for 160 people last night ... at Guy's American Kitchen and Bar.


Standard liberturd hypocrisy, The New York Times maintained a gun grabber stance throughout the decades while Sulzberger had an almost impossible for regular people to obtain New York City concealed carry permit. So it's business as usual, do as we say, not as we do.  Or maybe they were just looking to clear out the place so there'd be fewer plebes around while they partied.
 
2012-11-15 04:56:10 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I am probably in the minority (Obama, where's my free stuff?) but I like his show. It's not appointment television or anything, but if Triple-D is on, I'll watch it if I'm bored.

Good to know family owned and mom and pop restaurants are out there, not completely run out of business by Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin etc franchises everywhere.


I've only seen it once, came across it one day while flipping channels

Dude did like 3 jaeger bombs in the 5 minutes I watched. Have thought he was awesome ever since
 
2012-11-15 04:56:39 PM
Maybe they were 150 people the NY Times didn't like?
 
2012-11-15 04:56:44 PM
I want to see Guy Fieri and Nickelback guest star on the Big Bang Theory just to listen to the sound of every Fark Hipster's head explode like a firecracker. Might be a little nicer around here.

For the record, I like DDD
and the Big Bang Theory
hate Nickelback though.
 
2012-11-15 04:58:52 PM

Elzar: From the sentence in the Career section of his Wikipedia page:

"Although Fieri has no training as a chef...

And thats all you need to know.


My old man never had formal training as a chef, but he's a Certified Master Chef now, served as president/VP of the ACF for years, etc.
 
2012-11-15 05:00:35 PM

Magorn: the Show the network gave him for winning never features him actually cooking?


Have you seen Guy's Big Bite? It has him cooking, some fairly interesting recipes too.
 
2012-11-15 05:00:35 PM
When Rosie O'Donnell douches, she reaches for Guy Fieri.
 
2012-11-15 05:02:16 PM

Dear Jerk: It's good policy to make multiple visis to a restaurant under review. Normally though, if a restaurant is being reviewed before it's six months old, it's because the owners were doing some heavy lobbying to have it reviewed. It's a custom to give a restaurant six months to get their act together. Sounds like Fiero is trying to play both ends.


And it's working. Oodles of free publicity, not just on Fark.
 
2012-11-15 05:03:44 PM

Ebenator: [img.photobucket.com image 400x534]


images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/I like Triple D
 
2012-11-15 05:05:18 PM

Tchernobog: Elzar: From the sentence in the Career section of his Wikipedia page:

"Although Fieri has no training as a chef...

And thats all you need to know.

My old man never had formal training as a chef, but he's a Certified Master Chef now, served as president/VP of the ACF for years, etc.


He has training from University Nevada Las Vegas.

But still...FARK'em
 
2012-11-15 05:06:40 PM

Ebenator: [img.photobucket.com image 400x534]


God, he's basically one of about four stereotypes I'd expect someone with extremely limited contact with Americans to generate of an "American." Guy Fieri, a surfer dude, a cowboy, and a confrontational New Yorker.
 
2012-11-15 05:09:21 PM

Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing


Never watched this Guy's show, but how can anyone badmouth Bourdain's? No Reservations was one of the very few great shows on TV. You learned about the history and local culture of different places through its cuisine. The shows he did recently on my two home towns (Rio de Janeiro and Brooklyn) were spot on as far as capturing some of the local culture and with a lot of respect for the cultures even when making jokes. He was a very respected writer before the show came along, and it is reflected in the quality of the writing on the show.

On the other hand this Guy dude strikes me as the kind who would go to some remote village in some far away country and try to convince the locals that his way is better and he is cooler than them.
 
2012-11-15 05:09:27 PM
He's a homophobic from what I've read by a few legit sources. I'm guessing that would have to do with some peoples deep rooted dislike of him, and bias a review from the start.
He is a douche, that is my main reason. He's a lot like trump in that selling your the brand of you, rather than a good product. Didn't he do some shiatty touring stage show last year. It was suppose to suck so much ass people wanted their money back. I don't doubt the food was as bad as that reviewer said. Just a blue collar guy driving bringing normal food to the masses. Except he makes 8mil a year and drives a lambo. I can't blame him. I'd have an LP640 with a Victoria secret model in it and act like a total tool if I made that cash. Of course I wouldn't, be a fat slob, have frosted tips and wear backwards sunglasses. I'd at least have some class with my trash.
 
2012-11-15 05:11:33 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Except he makes 8mil a year and drives a lambo.


Until some teenager stole it.
 
2012-11-15 05:13:41 PM

tricycleracer: My dad is one of those people. Quantity trumps quality for him any day of the week. He will blacklist any restaurant that charges for soda refills and if you don't feel sickly full after your meal, you didn't get your money's worth.


To be fair to your dad, you have to be a total a-hole to charge for refills on soda.
 
2012-11-15 05:14:36 PM

The Muthaship: Until some teenager stole it.


I think they found it in a storage locker and he got it back. I'm sure he had another on hand anyway.
 
2012-11-15 05:15:21 PM

Joe Peanut: Magorn: He was basically hired for his "personality" his shtick is basically ripping of Anthony Bourdain's "culinary traveller" thing

Never watched this Guy's show, but how can anyone badmouth Bourdain's? No Reservations was one of the very few great shows on TV. You learned about the history and local culture of different places through its cuisine. The shows he did recently on my two home towns (Rio de Janeiro and Brooklyn) were spot on as far as capturing some of the local culture and with a lot of respect for the cultures even when making jokes. He was a very respected writer before the show came along, and it is reflected in the quality of the writing on the show.

On the other hand this Guy dude strikes me as the kind who would go to some remote village in some far away country and try to convince the locals that his way is better and he is cooler than them.


I was not a fan of Bourdain at all for many years. I would occasionally watch his shows and always had mixed emotions about him.... That was until he did the show in Louisiana not far from where I grew up and he shot the pig then did a wonderful job of portraying the people down there as they are and not as a bunch of idiots. After that I got a whole new respect of him.
 
2012-11-15 05:17:23 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: The Muthaship: Until some teenager stole it.

I think they found it in a storage locker and he got it back. I'm sure he had another on hand anyway.


Yeah, I remember seeing that they found it. Damn shame. A teenager with that much ambition deserves a Lambo.
 
2012-11-15 05:18:05 PM

The Muthaship: justanotherfarkinfarker: Except he makes 8mil a year and drives a lambo.

Until some teenager stole it.


it was recently recovered.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:07 PM
I would give him a chance if he wasn't so much of a douche that he refuses to pronounce his name properly because it's too close to fairy. It's FEE AIRY. Instead, he adds some imaginary constants in it and makes it FEE ETTI. Tongue rolls do not = T.
Besides the fact he's a raging homophobe, his pinky rings, his forearm sweatbands, his stupid backwards sun glasses, his insistence on using words like "Money!" to describe something that tastes good (People even got sick of Emeril's BAM! - come on!) and this douche Feiri has like 4 slogans he repeats ad nauseam during every single show.
Screw that. The review was hilarious and everyone I've ever known that's met Guy says he is a raging douche, so hard to be sympathetic.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:19 PM
Guy Fieri is "colorful" the same way that Jersey Shore guys are tanned.

Let's get right to the point here: I've been to one of his restaurants (Johnny Garlic's in San Jose). I will never go back. The food is not in any way "flavor town" or "foodgasm" or anything like that.

The ambience is pure douche. Giant TVs outside playing clips of Guy eating food and shrieking his trademark catchphrases. LOTS of product placement in the decor and on the menu. Dishes that make frat-boy jokes.

Once you get past that, the menu promises dishes with prominent Fieri-brand "twists." Sounds promising -- Applebees with a twist! But the actual dishes that came out lacked these signature changes, and weren't as tasty as AppleBee's.

"Chicken Fettucine? We'll put it on the express train to flavor town -- Cajun Blackened Chicken Fettucine, baby!" But don't make it too spicy, or actually blacken it. (This is a Guy Fieri® "signature item™." It's so 'signature' that the NYTimes review mentions it, and yet I agree with their assessment: It's dry chicken breast chunks, fettucine pasta, and a reddish, but otherwise generic, cream sauce that tastes vaguely of something that might be parmesan cheese.)

Applebees actually has more-interesting food items, that taste better, for less money, and you don't have to put up with the douchey atmosphere.

The good news was that the service was very, very nice. Our toddler was being a pain, and they found us a quiet table out of the way, and made him feel better, bringing him kid-friendly food right away, and cleaning up when he dumped a water glass.

My review:
Ambience: * (would have been zero, but the actual booths are comfy enough).
Food: ** (would have been lower, but the food was actually cooked. It just wasn't tasty.)
Service: **** (Damn near optimal.)
Price: ** (More expensive than Applebees, but not as tasty.)

Does Fieri's restaurant deserve a review like the one the NY Times gave it? Yes.

Not just because the review calls out his bombastic, douchey menu copy. But because the actual food delivered is not as good as Applebee's food. You flamboyantly promise "foodgasms," and you deliver stuff that's no better than microwave frozen entrées. So you get a hilarious ass-kicking in the Paper of Record.

Fieri recently launched a "Smores Pizza" frozen grocery product. This, at least, hits his Marketing Brief. Is it tasty? I probably will never know.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:49 PM
Not a surprise...

Guy Fierey is FAMOUS after all
 
2012-11-15 05:28:44 PM

The Muthaship: justanotherfarkinfarker: The Muthaship: Until some teenager stole it.

I think they found it in a storage locker and he got it back. I'm sure he had another on hand anyway.

Yeah, I remember seeing that they found it. Damn shame. A teenager with that much ambition deserves a Lambo.


The teen who stole it faces life in prison for such things as attempted murder(s) he's pretty much a scumbag not some happy-go-lucky kid who took it on a lark.
 
2012-11-15 05:29:53 PM
So if I eat a 6 pound sirloin at his restaurant, is the meal free? And do I get a busket for both ends? This is important.
 
2012-11-15 05:30:38 PM

Phoenix_M: The teen who stole it faces life in prison for such things as attempted murder(s) he's pretty much a scumbag not some happy-go-lucky kid who took it on a lark.


Imma go be quiet now....
 
2012-11-15 05:33:50 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: tnpir: That NY Times review did seem unnecessarily nasty. I'm sure this place isn't five-star by any means, but it's probably passable.

That said, Guy Fieri is a massive douche. I mean, EIGHT MILLION in earnings annually? How is this FAIR?

to be fair, he's actually a pretty nice guy. He's from my neck of the woods. I've been eating at his restaurants since long before he was on TV. He's big, over the top, gregarious. But in the end, he is outgoing, friendly, and even if he doesn't remember your name, he'll remember if he's met you before. He was the grand marshal at the Sears Point NASCAR race a couple years back, after getting famous. I went to get my hat signed by him and a couple others, he took a look at me and said, "Oh hey! Good to see you again!" Everyone else was a nice to meet you, nice to see you, and whatnot. But me and a few other locals, he knew us.

/csb


Oh yea! He's a total sweetheart! LMAO

"Queerty points us to an article in Minneapolis's City Pages from last week in which a former Diners producer reveals these charming Guy anecdotes:

"You have to protect Guy from all of his poop jokes," Page says. "Anytime any woman mentioned 'cream,' Guy went into a sexual riff. When cutting the show, you had to tell the editors to watch Guy's eye line, because it's always on breasts."

Fieri also needed protection from homosexuals, or at least advance warning. Early in the show's run, Page got a phone call from Fieri, who'd just walked out of a restaurant in a huff.

"Guy had decided that the two men running the restaurant were life partners," Page remembers. "He said, 'You can't send me to talk to gay people without warning! Those people weird me out!'"

From then on, show researchers were required to note any indications of homosexuality detected during pre-interviews. (Fieri declined to comment for this story through his spokespeople.)

Former field producer Kari Kloster confirms that Fieri made the odd demand about gay guests, and says she witnessed the star become more controlling on set."


---------------------

When it came to Jewish people, Page had this to say about his former colleague:

"Guy said to me: 'You know, it's true: Jews are cheap."

Yep he's a real winner.
 
2012-11-15 05:34:07 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Magorn: Notice that he became famous because of a reality show (Next food Network Star) and the Show the network gave him for winning never features him actually cooking?

He has another show on Food Network where he cooks a meal each episode in his kitchen. I don't know what the show is called, but it's a nice kitchen. He prepared a meal with Matthew McConaughey once on the show.


Matthew McConaughey looks stringy and tough.
 
2012-11-15 05:35:23 PM
mmmmmmm

Now THAT is 'merican.
 
2012-11-15 05:35:26 PM

Grave_Girl: Dear Jerk: It's good policy to make multiple visis to a restaurant under review. Normally though, if a restaurant is being reviewed before it's six months old, it's because the owners were doing some heavy lobbying to have it reviewed. It's a custom to give a restaurant six months to get their act together. Sounds like Fiero is trying to play both ends.

And it's working. Oodles of free publicity, not just on Fark.


That reviewer visited 3 times.

Themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2012-11-15 05:41:26 PM

tricycleracer: starlost: FTFA: When your entire business is built around bringing "real food" to "real Americans," you can't ask for a better advertisement than a downward sneer from the bible of East Coast Liberal Elites.

Pretty much this.

Guy's target customer:

did you know he has his burger joints on some carnival cruise ships? it isn't part of the 24/7 free buffet stuff. its a pay restaurant and although i have never been in there i heard a passenger rave because they give you all the french fries you want and refill your milkshake.

My dad is one of those people. Quantity trumps quality for him any day of the week. He will blacklist any restaurant that charges for soda refills and if you don't feel sickly full after your meal, you didn't get your money's worth.


I also will blacklist a place that charges for a refill. At about 5 cents per glass it's just farking cheap!

Also I like Guy, I'd rather eat with him that Bourdain. Bourdain would go on, talking about how special this dish is, the deep rooted feelings it brings out in him.

Guy would say, damn that's good! Pass the ketchup.

That I can relate to.
 
2012-11-15 05:44:47 PM

haineux:

(More expensive than Applebees, but not as tasty.)


That is a phrase I never thought I would see...

HeadExploding.Gif
 
2012-11-15 05:45:14 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Good to know family owned and mom and pop restaurants are out there, not completely run out of business by Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin etc franchises everywhere.


I bet the space that Guy's All-American Shingle-Shiatteria occupies used to be one of those family-owned places.
 
2012-11-15 05:49:19 PM

Blues Lounger: AdolfOliverPanties: Magorn: Notice that he became famous because of a reality show (Next food Network Star) and the Show the network gave him for winning never features him actually cooking?

He has another show on Food Network where he cooks a meal each episode in his kitchen. I don't know what the show is called, but it's a nice kitchen. He prepared a meal with Matthew McConaughey once on the show.

And how did Matt taste?


Alright alright alright?
 
2012-11-15 05:51:33 PM

Shyla: I would give him a chance if he wasn't so much of a douche that he refuses to pronounce his name properly because it's too close to fairy. It's FEE AIRY. Instead, he adds some imaginary constants in it and makes it FEE ETTI. Tongue rolls do not = T.
Besides the fact he's a raging homophobe, his pinky rings, his forearm sweatbands, his stupid backwards sun glasses, his insistence on using words like "Money!" to describe something that tastes good (People even got sick of Emeril's BAM! - come on!) and this douche Feiri has like 4 slogans he repeats ad nauseam during every single show.
Screw that. The review was hilarious and everyone I've ever known that's met Guy says he is a raging douche, so hard to be sympathetic.


He doesn't pronounce it "Fairy" because it actually used to be "Fairy"...

Wiki: "Guy Fieri ( /ˈɡaɪ fiːˈɛri/; born Guy Ferry on January 22, 1968)"
 
2012-11-15 05:54:08 PM

ricewater_stool: pissedoffmick: this thread is on point.

Winner, chicken dinner.


These comments are totally money.
 
2012-11-15 05:57:03 PM

Grandemadaca: FTFA: When your entire business is built around bringing "real food" to "real Americans," you can't ask for a better advertisement than a downward sneer from the bible of East Coast Liberal Elites.

Pretty much this.

Guy's target customer:
[blogs.telegraph.co.uk image 460x370]
I'm sure they're not reading the NYT.



Yep. Diamonds to doughnuts the place is on just about the same level as every other restaurant around Times Square: safe, unchallenging calories for tourists in a shiny room with stuff to look at. It's not actually food, and it's not even supposed to be; it's just a place to park your tourist butt and your brats and eat something that seems familiar, even if it's awful.
 
2012-11-15 05:57:07 PM

Shyla: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: tnpir: That NY Times review did seem unnecessarily nasty. I'm sure this place isn't five-star by any means, but it's probably passable.

That said, Guy Fieri is a massive douche. I mean, EIGHT MILLION in earnings annually? How is this FAIR?

to be fair, he's actually a pretty nice guy. He's from my neck of the woods. I've been eating at his restaurants since long before he was on TV. He's big, over the top, gregarious. But in the end, he is outgoing, friendly, and even if he doesn't remember your name, he'll remember if he's met you before. He was the grand marshal at the Sears Point NASCAR race a couple years back, after getting famous. I went to get my hat signed by him and a couple others, he took a look at me and said, "Oh hey! Good to see you again!" Everyone else was a nice to meet you, nice to see you, and whatnot. But me and a few other locals, he knew us.

/csb

Oh yea! He's a total sweetheart! LMAO

"Queerty points us to an article in Minneapolis's City Pages from last week in which a former Diners producer reveals these charming Guy anecdotes:

"You have to protect Guy from all of his poop jokes," Page says. "Anytime any woman mentioned 'cream,' Guy went into a sexual riff. When cutting the show, you had to tell the editors to watch Guy's eye line, because it's always on breasts."

Fieri also needed protection from homosexuals, or at least advance warning. Early in the show's run, Page got a phone call from Fieri, who'd just walked out of a restaurant in a huff.

"Guy had decided that the two men running the restaurant were life partners," Page remembers. "He said, 'You can't send me to talk to gay people without warning! Those people weird me out!'"

From then on, show researchers were required to note any indications of homosexuality detected during pre-interviews. (Fieri declined to comment for this story through his spokespeople.)

Former field producer Kari Kloster confirms that Fieri made the odd demand about g ...


Pure and total bullshiat. I see him all the time in my SF neighborhood, his cars are stored in SF, he's partners in a SF restaurant one of his JG restaurants is in the middle of the biggest "Bear" vacation meccas of the world. I seriously doubt Guy has problems with gay people.
 
2012-11-15 05:59:16 PM
I always wonder what happens if he goes to some diner/drive-in/dive and the food totally sucks?

And WTF is up with his aversion to eggs??? How can you review a breakfast joint if you never eat eggs?
 
2012-11-15 06:01:29 PM
The horror. The horror.

Personally I love the Guy Fieri threads. The epic disdain goes straight to 11.
 
2012-11-15 06:04:26 PM

Soulcatcher: The horror. The horror.

Personally I love the Guy Fieri threads. The epic disdain goes straight to 11.


It kind of mirrors politicial threads. More 'cultured' NYC types who are always up in arms over how intolerant small town flyover types are, end up being even more douchy in the end.
 
2012-11-15 06:04:45 PM

Elzar: From the sentence in the Career section of his Wikipedia page:

"Although Fieri has no training as a chef...

And thats all you need to know.


There was a recent episode of DDD where he was in Vegas and he went to UNLV and showed off their culinary arts program that he was in. I guess it's not Le Cordon Bleu but I bet he can run a restaurant better than I can.
 
2012-11-15 06:12:05 PM

Shyla: I would give him a chance if he wasn't so much of a douche that he refuses to pronounce his name properly because it's too close to fairy. It's FEE AIRY. Instead, he adds some imaginary constants in it and makes it FEE ETTI. Tongue rolls do not = T.
Besides the fact he's a raging homophobe, his pinky rings, his forearm sweatbands, his stupid backwards sun glasses, his insistence on using words like "Money!" to describe something that tastes good (People even got sick of Emeril's BAM! - come on!) and this douche Feiri has like 4 slogans he repeats ad nauseam during every single show.
Screw that. The review was hilarious and everyone I've ever known that's met Guy says he is a raging douche, so hard to be sympathetic.


Guy could follow me around 24/7 spouting one-liners through a megaphone and he wouldn't be as obnoxious as 30 seconds of listening to Rachel Ray. Give me Giada and her magnificent "personalities" anyday.
 
2012-11-15 06:12:10 PM
I've been there and it wasn't so bad. Waitress was a little annoying with the "You wan' fraz wis dat" routine. Otherwise, okay.
 
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