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(Denver Channel)   It didn't take long after voters approved legalization of pot in Colorado for journalists to start cranking out stories about the scourge of marijuana addiction   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 203
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2012-11-15 12:51:37 PM  
desukomoviespot.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 12:57:51 PM  
"Arapahoe House, marijuana addiction is the number one reason why adolescents seek treatment"

And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.
 
2012-11-15 01:09:25 PM  
A) Stupid article is stupid

B) I will not trust a news station that refuses to actually fact-check or have any common sense (Hint: This is the news station that aired the Broadwell book "All Up In My Snatch")
 
2012-11-15 01:15:54 PM  
And we all know how effective that outlawing marijuana is at stopping kids from obtaining and smoking it, right?
 
2012-11-15 01:37:15 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: And we all know how effective that outlawing marijuana is at stopping kids from obtaining and smoking it, right?


obviously the solution is MOAR laws! MOAR punishments! muahahahahahahaha!
 
2012-11-15 01:42:46 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.
 
2012-11-15 01:54:35 PM  
A monkey and a lizard are up in a tree smoking a joint. The lizards says "I'm going to the stream to get a drink of water" and climbs down. In the meantime, an alligator crawls up to the foot of the tree, and the monkey says "fark, how much did you drink?!"
 
2012-11-15 02:07:32 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-15 02:09:47 PM  
"When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.
 
2012-11-15 02:13:40 PM  
Yes, because it would be traumatic if young adults and teenagers were to suddenly become lazy, eat junk food and waste their days away playing video games...

There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.
 
2012-11-15 02:22:00 PM  
ZOMG!

PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO JAZZ MUSIC!

THE COLOREDS WILL RAVISH OUR WHITE WIMMIN!

I'VE SEEN REEFER MADNESS! I KNOW! I KNOOOOOWWWWW!!!
 
2012-11-15 02:24:48 PM  

violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


So let's continue to trample other people's rights.

Besides, legalizing and taxing marijuana would (in theory at least) provide more money for addiction treatment.
 
2012-11-15 02:25:25 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: ZOMG!

PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO JAZZ MUSIC!

THE COLOREDS WILL RAVISH OUR WHITE WIMMIN!

I'VE SEEN REEFER MADNESS! I KNOW! I KNOOOOOWWWWW!!!


Not to mention the sheriff
 
2012-11-15 02:29:43 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.

So let's continue to trample other people's rights.

Besides, legalizing and taxing marijuana would (in theory at least) provide more money for addiction treatment.


And by "addiction treatment", you mean a good shrink, since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.
 
2012-11-15 02:35:02 PM  
"Addiction is a public health problem," said Schut.

Ignoring the fact that marijuana is not physically addictive I'll agree that it's a public health issue...so let's treat it as such and instead of locking people up and destroying their lives with a criminal record, treat them for it...you know. Like Portugal.
 
2012-11-15 02:47:03 PM  

slayer199: "Addiction is a public health problem," said Schut.

Ignoring the fact that marijuana is not physically addictive I'll agree that it's a public health issue...so let's treat it as such and instead of locking people up and destroying their lives with a criminal record, treat them for it...you know. Like Portugal.

 
2012-11-15 02:52:31 PM  
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I'm picturing this in the newsroom. "Get me the victims of smoking pot!"
 
2012-11-15 03:00:47 PM  
Nary a word on alcohol and nicotine addiction? No? Must because there aren't corporate profits for marijuana just yet.
 
2012-11-15 03:06:49 PM  

slayer199: "Addiction is a public health problem," said Schut.

Ignoring the fact that marijuana is not physically addictive I'll agree that it's a public health issue...so let's treat it as such and instead of locking people up and destroying their lives with a criminal record, treat them for it...you know. Like Portugal.


There is a treatment for Portugal?? WOW!
 
2012-11-15 03:10:34 PM  
"Here is an example: A fifteen-year-old lad apprehended in the act of staging a holdup
- fifteen years old and a marijuana addict. Here is a most tragic case."
filmfanatic.org
"Yes. I remember. Just a young boy... under the influence of drugs... who killed his entire family with an axe."
 
2012-11-15 03:20:31 PM  
Seeing as the only people who read newspapers or watch local TV news in CO are over the age of 35 at this point, those journos are just writing for their target audience.
 
2012-11-15 03:23:37 PM  

Sybarite: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x271]

I didn't think so.


Indeed. Thank you for this. Gotta put things in perspective.
 
2012-11-15 03:25:55 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Seeing as the only people who read newspapers or watch local TV news in CO are over the age of 35 at this point, those journos are just writing for their target audience.


November is sweeps month. Stations are tested via the Nielsen ratings to see who is number one and so on. The very thing that Ron Burgandy was partying about in the beginning of the movie. This is typical and not surprising. But it is annoying.
 
2012-11-15 03:36:33 PM  

Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.


Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?
 
2012-11-15 03:57:35 PM  

slayer199: marijuana is not physically addictive


This really needs to be repeated.
 
2012-11-15 04:19:32 PM  
Listening to Pink Floyd while contemplating the meaning of one's life isn't normal.

But on pot it is.


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-15 04:53:21 PM  
wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly? Does that anecdotal evidence cancel your out?

/you weren't addicted, you were dependent, there's a difference.
 
2012-11-15 04:56:18 PM  
You can almost hear the booze companies panicking.
 
2012-11-15 04:57:45 PM  
FTFA:

"I never worked as hard when I was high as I did when I was sober," said Brown,.

that's all on you.

An excuse is just a sh*tty reason.
 
2012-11-15 04:59:10 PM  
I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times. Thank god the paramedics are so close to my house.
 
2012-11-15 04:59:46 PM  
I've been clean off grunge music for 17 years, and the fact that it's still allowed to be played makes me emotional. Where's my news story?
 
2012-11-15 05:00:03 PM  
Right...because people don't end up in rehab for alcohol too.
How bout we put those numbers side-by-side, k?
 
2012-11-15 05:00:11 PM  

david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times. Thank god the paramedics are so close to my house.


Paramedics respond to a Funyun emergency?
 
2012-11-15 05:02:27 PM  
Oh wait, you mean alcohol is the number 1 reason people go to rehab?
 
2012-11-15 05:03:12 PM  

Rincewind53: "Arapahoe House, marijuana addiction is the number one reason why adolescents seek treatment"

And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.


blessthe40oz.com
 
2012-11-15 05:03:40 PM  

Rincewind53: "Arapahoe House, marijuana addiction is the number one reason why adolescents seek treatment"

And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.


holes blown in shiat argument 2 posts in, fark wins again.
 
2012-11-15 05:03:55 PM  
 
2012-11-15 05:04:58 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times. Thank god the paramedics are so close to my house.

Paramedics respond to a Funyun emergency?


They delivered the pizza.
 
2012-11-15 05:05:40 PM  
"Journalists" who regurgitate "stories" written by special interest groups are not journalists.
 
2012-11-15 05:06:55 PM  

violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.


Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.
 
2012-11-15 05:10:18 PM  
I have a friend that got all potted up on weed once and now shoots heroin-laced crack directly into his eyeballs as he lays in the gutter masturbating in his own feces.

Not even once.
 
2012-11-15 05:10:24 PM  

AeAe: FirstNationalBastard: david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times. Thank god the paramedics are so close to my house.

Paramedics respond to a Funyun emergency?

They delivered the pizza.


They tried to, but he was so high that he was stuck on the couch and couldn't answer the door. Imagine being able to smell the pizza, but being helpless to get it.

Such horrors should not be tolerated in civilized society.
 
2012-11-15 05:12:37 PM  
One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.
 
2012-11-15 05:15:17 PM  

CommieTaoist: There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.


That's sort of the point that I came here to make. A lot of the people who I know who are psychologically dependent on marijuana would just turn to something else to self-medicate themselves. I bet alcohol would be their next choice.

IMHO, I look at marijuana as the lesser evil between those two.
 
2012-11-15 05:15:19 PM  
And now,the brownie song (may not be safe for work)
 
2012-11-15 05:15:26 PM  

slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.


Are you sure that was pot? Sounds like angel dust.
 
2012-11-15 05:15:48 PM  
It's about time for a reefer madness remake.

/this time they should hire Michael Bay.
/and Tom Hanks, with a script by JJ Abrams.
 
2012-11-15 05:16:01 PM  
thumbs.anyclip.com

Now, there are four states of being in the cannabis, or marijuana,society:
Cool, Groovy, Hip, and Square.
The square is seldom if ever cool. He is not "with it,"that is, he doesn't know "what's happening."
But if he manages to figure it out, he moves up a notch to "hip."
And if he can bring himself to approve of what is happening, he becomes "groovy."
After that, with much luck and perseverance, he can rise to the rank of "cool."
A cool guy...
 
2012-11-15 05:16:22 PM  
I've known people who smoke pot every day. They were just about worthless for anything. I've known people who drink everyday. They too were about worthless for anything. If you are getting intoxicated every day you have an issue.

I can but a bottle of whiskey legally, I can get drunk in a bar legally. Why can't I purchase a "joint" to smoke in my own home legally?
 
2012-11-15 05:16:32 PM  
 
2012-11-15 05:16:55 PM  
In other news, many American journalists are shills for the federal government.
 
2012-11-15 05:18:46 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times. Thank god the paramedics are so close to my house.

Paramedics respond to a Funyun emergency?


Sometimes; you just HAVE TO HAVE FUNYUNS.
 
2012-11-15 05:18:55 PM  
Someone really needs to publicly state the difference between "addictive" and "habit forming" if we ever want more of the public to distinguish how much of the information they're being fed is bullshiat.
 
2012-11-15 05:19:21 PM  
"I never worked as hard when I was high as I did when I was sober," said Brown,.

Obviously, you're not an artist.
 
2012-11-15 05:19:21 PM  
It's been the same thing here in Washington. I was listening to talk radio (FM) while driving the other day and the guy was telling some story about a woman who was high on pot and drunk (which he only briefly mentioned once) who apparently hit and killed someone with her car. He kept going on about the evils of marijuana and how he just knew that stories like this were going to happen if it were legalized and how from now on we're going to be hearing them all the time. He's never smoked pot before, but he knows that it is a gateway drug to all types of bad stuff. I've been hearing stories every day about this kind of stuff. Apparently pot causes all bad behaviors in people.
 
2012-11-15 05:19:33 PM  
Just because marijuana is not physically addictive doesn't mean there aren't risks...

For example, a pot head without weed is just as annoying, perhaps more so than a dry drunk.

Further, if you need to consume a mind altering chemical to start or get through your day, there are deeper problems that need to be addressed.

One last thing, just a bunch, really... What are the depression rates amongst habitual pot users? And it is NOT a treatment for the condition either.

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly pro-pot, but don't bullshiat yourself or others into thinking there are no I'll effects of habitual use.
 
2012-11-15 05:19:46 PM  

CommieTaoist: Yes, because it would be traumatic if young adults and teenagers were to suddenly become lazy, eat junk food and waste their days away playing video games...

There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.


oil...
 
2012-11-15 05:20:12 PM  
Do you know what would stop this madness? If the general public could actually sue these "journalists" for sensationalism and misinformation. If these knuckleheads and the publications that print these stupid stories were held accountable there would be a lot less bullshiat to sift through.
 
2012-11-15 05:20:18 PM  

AeAe: slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.

Are you sure that was pot? Sounds like angel dust.


I was just trolling. Putting together some stories that police told us at our school about the effects of MJ. Ive been a regular pot smoker for over 12 years. Never had a single bad experience from the effects of smoking.
 
2012-11-15 05:20:19 PM  
Hey, it's 4;20...w00t
 
2012-11-15 05:21:22 PM  
I literally cried the day they legalized coffee. I was addicted to that stuff, back in the day.

It was hard, man. You weren't there. YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
 
2012-11-15 05:21:26 PM  
Stupid semicolon.
 
2012-11-15 05:21:59 PM  

slave2grind: AeAe: slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.

Are you sure that was pot? Sounds like angel dust.

I was just trolling. Putting together some stories that police told us at our school about the effects of MJ. Ive been a regular pot smoker for over 12 years. Never had a single bad experience from the effects of smoking.


I was playing along.
 
2012-11-15 05:22:43 PM  
I quit smoking pot involuntarily a week ago after 35 years. I was up to buying $1000/mo and my finances cannot support that right now. My deep REM sleep has been so suppressed that I haven't dremt in years. A coupla mornings ago I had my first dream in ages. But it was a nightmare. I was being busted by the feds, and their attitude wasn't rage but amused contempt. It was very detailed and awful.

Very mild withdrawal symptoms, some depression, some suicidal ideation, but nothing too bad. I'm better now and reequilibrated, happy as ever now.
 
2012-11-15 05:23:28 PM  
I ran out of weed a week ago. I'm so delirious I'm going to.... Go to work because it's almost time to leave.

I know people that can't go more than an hour or two without a cigarrette. When I run out of weed, I'm like, bummer, maaaan.
 
2012-11-15 05:23:53 PM  
i love every post in this thread.

: )

/smoking now.
 
2012-11-15 05:24:03 PM  
Both of my brothers got hooked on laced weed. Took quite a few years but one finally quit after 5 years to focus on his school work, the other still smokes and doesn't give a fark about bombing his classes
 
2012-11-15 05:24:13 PM  
The drug dealer is the gateway!!

If it was sold at a store people will never meet the guy trying to get you hooked on cracks.
 
2012-11-15 05:24:20 PM  
America has become so weak and needing to find something else to blame that they keep using the word "Addiction"
when they really mean "Likes to do it a lot"

"Addicted" to: Shopping, Weed, Sex, Porno.... ALL TOTAL CRAP.

You are not Addicted, you just don't want to stop. Sorry you have such shiatty willpower but some things ARE your own damn fault sometimes
 
2012-11-15 05:25:01 PM  

titwrench: Do you know what would stop this madness? If the general public could actually sue these "journalists" for sensationalism and misinformation. If these knuckleheads and the publications that print these stupid stories were held accountable there would be a lot less bullshiat to sift through.


This is the same station that didn't bother to check the obviously photoshopped Broadwell book "All Up In My Snatch" before putting on the nightly news. Actual fact checking and accountability are second thoughts to this station.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:22 PM  

gweilo8888: I literally cried the day they legalized coffee. I was addicted to that stuff, back in the day.


I too am an addict, I get irritable and might even get a headache without my fix each and every morning, I am so addicted I put everyone's life on the road in danger as I ingest this drug while driving but I can't help it.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:29 PM  
They just had a story on the news (which may be B.S.) about the FDA studying those 5-hour energy drinks, stating that they were a factor in 13 deaths, recently.

That's 13 more deaths than marijuana has been implicated in.

Also watched this show detailing the history (back to pre-history) of drug use. Very eye-opening. For one example, back in the days of Greece, during the age of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. and during the first formation of what we call democracy, they had to go through a test/ritual called (sp may be poor) the "Elusian Mysteries" where they are believed to have used Ergot. I think the program was called "The Stoned Ages" or something of the sort.

According to the program, the worlds first drug laws were instituted by Christians prior to the Roman takeover - said Christians during the crusades did not want people to satisfy "spiritual quests" via anything but their church.

So it would appear that pot has less of a social cost than caffeine. Certainly there is no disagreement that the social costs of tobacco and alcohol are magnitudes above that of pot, cocaine, heroin, or even meth.
 
2012-11-15 05:25:58 PM  

JasonThomasX: America has become so weak and needing to find something else to blame that they keep using the word "Addiction"
when they really mean "Likes to do it a lot"

"Addicted" to: Shopping, Weed, Sex, Porno.... ALL TOTAL CRAP.

You are not Addicted, you just don't want to stop. Sorry you have such shiatty willpower but some things ARE your own damn fault sometimes


win.
 
2012-11-15 05:26:02 PM  
I've never smoked pot but I've been known to play poker in small barns with 11 other people blazing away.
 
2012-11-15 05:26:10 PM  

FirstNationalBastard:
... since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.


Oh man, mallomars. Do you have any? I haven't had a mallomar in... I don't know how long! I neeed one! I'm hurtin', man!

/wtf is a mallomar?
 
2012-11-15 05:26:22 PM  

signaljammer: I quit smoking pot involuntarily a week ago after 35 years. I was up to buying $1000/mo and my finances cannot support that right now. My deep REM sleep has been so suppressed that I haven't dremt in years. A coupla mornings ago I had my first dream in ages. But it was a nightmare. I was being busted by the feds, and their attitude wasn't rage but amused contempt. It was very detailed and awful.

Very mild withdrawal symptoms, some depression, some suicidal ideation, but nothing too bad. I'm better now and reequilibrated, happy as ever now.


That's my normal state!
 
2012-11-15 05:27:29 PM  
I quit smoking pot because it made me dum... er dumn... er dumb.

OK, maybe it wasn't the weed.
 
2012-11-15 05:28:23 PM  
Followup: The term for the Greek ritual was "Eleusinian Mysteries". Apologies for the poor spelling earlier.
 
2012-11-15 05:28:30 PM  

Cognizer: FirstNationalBastard:
... since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.

Oh man, mallomars. Do you have any? I haven't had a mallomar in... I don't know how long! I neeed one! I'm hurtin', man!

/wtf is a mallomar?


Really? It's a like candy-bar/cookie with a marshmallow and covered in chocolate.
 
2012-11-15 05:29:10 PM  
There are people who drink every day or smoke pot every day who are very productive people. The key is to make sure that your responsibilities for the day are done when you start drinking/smoking.
 
2012-11-15 05:29:12 PM  
Marijuana Addiction is an oxymoron.
There is nothing physically addictive about marijuana.
If your mind is so weak that you feel you need it to get by, that is your weak mind, not the drug and you would likely find something else to fill that void if you didn't have the weed.
 
2012-11-15 05:29:20 PM  
humordistrict.com

/hot link.
 
2012-11-15 05:31:09 PM  
And many people still believe this bullshiat.

Sad, really.
 
2012-11-15 05:32:20 PM  

timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly? Does that anecdotal evidence cancel your out?


I almost failed my Sophomore year in high-school. Over the summer I took stock of my life, and realized I was headed for a lifetime of flipping burgers. So I did the only thing I could think of to get me out of my jam. For the rest of high-school I would come home from school, get really really baked and do my homework. I pulled my grades up, did well on the SAT and went off to college and got a degree.
 
2012-11-15 05:32:30 PM  
I know a guy who smelled a weed and immediately forgot to not poop in his pants and that breathing was necessary so he died forever so I will never smoke a weed.

/morons
 
2012-11-15 05:33:17 PM  

DaCaptain19: Also watched this show detailing the history (back to pre-history) of drug use. Very eye-opening. For one example, back in the days of Greece, during the age of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. and during the first formation of what we call democracy, they had to go through a test/ritual called (sp may be poor) the "Elusian Mysteries" where they are believed to have used Ergot. I think the program was called "The Stoned Ages" or something of the sort.


(I haven't seen the program but...) Please tell me this wasn't on the History channel. If it was, then pay close attention to the wording. THC tends to use a lot of modifiers and sketchy phrases to pass on ideas as facts.

/just sayin
 
2012-11-15 05:33:32 PM  

AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.


Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??
 
2012-11-15 05:34:06 PM  

Kibbler: You can almost hear the booze companies panicking.


THIS. When I smoke, I have zero taste for alcohol in any form - beer, wine, etc.

I mean, when I was doing research on forms of self-medication.

Research on-going results pending.
 
2012-11-15 05:35:00 PM  

AeAe: Cognizer: FirstNationalBastard:
... since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.

Oh man, mallomars. Do you have any? I haven't had a mallomar in... I don't know how long! I neeed one! I'm hurtin', man!

/wtf is a mallomar?

Really? It's a like candy-bar/cookie with a marshmallow and covered in chocolate.


Oh, hell. I'm doomed.

/fantasizes about Milky Way/choco-chip/marshmallow/chocolate fondue
//off to the store
///damn, nothing addictive there! Nope nope.
 
2012-11-15 05:37:13 PM  

Cognizer: FirstNationalBastard:
... since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.

Oh man, mallomars. Do you have any? I haven't had a mallomar in... I don't know how long! I neeed one! I'm hurtin', man!

/wtf is a mallomar?


If you're not willing to blow me for a Mallomar, you're not hurtin' bad enough.
 
2012-11-15 05:39:47 PM  
In Denver, have you ever watched 7News...ON WEEEEEED?
 
2012-11-15 05:41:14 PM  

serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.

Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?


The same types of fools who are "cured" of homosexuality.
 
2012-11-15 05:41:46 PM  
david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times.

I overdosed on pot brownies once. A friend of mine had tried one from the same batch the day before and complained that it was really weak. So I tried one, waited about 40-45 minutes and didn't feel anything. So I ate quite a few more thinking they were duds.

Soon after, the first brownie started to kick in. So I knew I was fuqd. When the other brownies started to kick in all at once, it turned into a very bad high really fast. I became really fidgety ... I couldn't stay still but then I couldn't move around. Then I thought I was stuck in a Matrix like alternate reality and somehow I was stuck in a perpetual time loop. And of course, somebody had slowed time way down to make it worse. I concluded that this is what Purgatory must be like.

And then it all went away. No psychotic break, no organ failure, no murdering my neighbors. Just a really bad trip and a lesson to wait two hours before calling a laced brownie a dud.

Funny thing is, I've smoked with friends before trying to get as high as we possibly could. It was nowhere near as strong as from eating them. Lesson learned.
 
2012-11-15 05:42:13 PM  

iaazathot: serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.

Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?

The same types of fools who are "cured" of homosexuality.


Their Marijuana addiction cured their homosexuality. But how will they cure their weed addiction?
 
2012-11-15 05:44:00 PM  

CommieTaoist: Yes, because it would be traumatic if young adults and teenagers were to suddenly become lazy, eat junk food and waste their days away playing video games...

There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.


You forgot "posting ponies In Fark threads" -- I've been clean for three years and shudder to think of when it will be legalized in my state.
 
2012-11-15 05:46:22 PM  
This is what pot did to me

thumbs.anyclip.com
 
2012-11-15 05:47:39 PM  

signaljammer: I quit smoking pot involuntarily a week ago after 35 years. I was up to buying $1000/mo and my finances cannot support that right now. My deep REM sleep has been so suppressed that I haven't dremt in years. A coupla mornings ago I had my first dream in ages. But it was a nightmare. I was being busted by the feds, and their attitude wasn't rage but amused contempt. It was very detailed and awful.

Very mild withdrawal symptoms, some depression, some suicidal ideation, but nothing too bad. I'm better now and reequilibrated, happy as ever now.


You dream every night nut job. You were not remembering them.
 
2012-11-15 05:49:04 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: iaazathot: serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.

Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?

The same types of fools who are "cured" of homosexuality.

Their Marijuana addiction cured their homosexuality. But how will they cure their weed addiction?


A bus moving at 45 mph applied liberally all over the body. Seriously, people "addicted" to weed are sold that diagnosis and then fleeced for bogus treatment programs, see STRAIGHT in the 80's.
 
2012-11-15 05:49:44 PM  

Terri Schiavo's Brain Cavity: david_gaithersburg: I have personally overdosed on marijuana several dozen times.

I overdosed on pot brownies once. A friend of mine had tried one from the same batch the day before and complained that it was really weak. So I tried one, waited about 40-45 minutes and didn't feel anything. So I ate quite a few more thinking they were duds.

Soon after, the first brownie started to kick in. So I knew I was fuqd. When the other brownies started to kick in all at once, it turned into a very bad high really fast. I became really fidgety ... I couldn't stay still but then I couldn't move around. Then I thought I was stuck in a Matrix like alternate reality and somehow I was stuck in a perpetual time loop. And of course, somebody had slowed time way down to make it worse. I concluded that this is what Purgatory must be like.

And then it all went away. No psychotic break, no organ failure, no murdering my neighbors. Just a really bad trip and a lesson to wait two hours before calling a laced brownie a dud.

Funny thing is, I've smoked with friends before trying to get as high as we possibly could. It was nowhere near as strong as from eating them. Lesson learned.


I remember that episode of Laverne and Shirley.
 
2012-11-15 05:49:59 PM  

Joshudan: CommieTaoist: Yes, because it would be traumatic if young adults and teenagers were to suddenly become lazy, eat junk food and waste their days away playing video games...

There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.

You forgot "posting ponies In Fark threads" -- I've been clean for three years and shudder to think of when it will be legalized in my state.


C'mon man, just try one.

25.media.tumblr.com

It's as good as you remember it.
 
2012-11-15 05:50:33 PM  
You don't get addicted to pot.
You get addicted to being lazy.

Blaming pot makes you an asshat. Everybody else knows how to put down the joint and go to work.
 
2012-11-15 05:50:54 PM  

busy chillin': I have a friend that got all potted up on weed once and now shoots heroin-laced crack directly into his eyeballs as he lays in the gutter masturbating in his own feces.

Not even once.


i love getting all potted up and rolling in my own feces.

/ya, im a dog
 
2012-11-15 05:51:48 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: And we all know how effective that outlawing marijuana is at stopping kids from obtaining and smoking it, right?


Do we? We certainly know it's not great, but I'm not sure how we are supposed to know that legalisation would be better.
 
2012-11-15 05:54:15 PM  

timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?


Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.
 
2012-11-15 05:54:40 PM  

orbister: Marcus Aurelius: And we all know how effective that outlawing marijuana is at stopping kids from obtaining and smoking it, right?

Do we? We certainly know it's not great, but I'm not sure how we are supposed to know that legalisation would be better.


Legalize it and see what happens? I bet the world keeps spinning.
 
2012-11-15 05:55:29 PM  
i26.photobucket.com
Looking for a label design, something that feel at home, like your grandmoms homemade jam.

/Jar also makes a good moonshine glass
 
2012-11-15 06:02:07 PM  
I'm addicted to water. If I stop drinking it, I'll just die.
 
2012-11-15 06:04:41 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'VE SEEN REEFER MADNESS! I KNOW! I KNOOOOOWWWWW!!!


REEFER MADNESS?!? THIS! IS! PARTAKING!


/unfortunately, it doesn't quite work aloud, due to the long "A" vowel
 
2012-11-15 06:05:30 PM  

Dinjiin: CommieTaoist: There are plenty of already legal addictive substances, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, porn, anime figurine collecting, pain killers, the list goes on and on.

That's sort of the point that I came here to make. A lot of the people who I know who are psychologically dependent on marijuana would just turn to something else to self-medicate themselves. I bet alcohol would be their next choice.

IMHO, I look at marijuana as the lesser evil between those two.


I can assure you there is at least one pot-smoker who self-medicates with alcohol when pot isn't available. Otherwise, hardly ever drink.
 
2012-11-15 06:12:00 PM  
www.metalsucks.net

POT BABIES!
 
2012-11-15 06:12:05 PM  
It is a gateway drug. People move up from there drugs on schedule.....uhm,....negative infinity.
 
2012-11-15 06:17:24 PM  
I smoke weed every day because I was an angry mother farker and it wasn't very fun being angry at everything all the time (not like physically violent angry, just incredibly frustrated and shouty). Weed came along and I mellowed out a ton. Even though I smoke everyday, if I can't for some reason it's not a huge deal. The only withdrawal effects I notice are a decrease in my appetite (the horror, the horror!) and I'm slightly more irritable. That's it. I've been smoking multiple times a day, every day (with a few breaks here and there) for around 7 years. My memory is still as sharp as ever, and I could be high as a kite and you would never be able to tell as long as I had eye drops. I know so many daily smokers, none have ever even thought about going to rehab. We're all employed, motivated people who just happen to like smoking weed. Everyone in rehab for marijuana addiction is there because it was court mandated, no one needs rehab for weed. I've helped opiate addicts in withdrawal, that enables me to laugh at anyone who even remotely suggests that weed is somehow horribly physically addictive.

/tl; dr: pots not addictive and anyone who says that it is, is a blindingly moronic buffoon.
 
2012-11-15 06:17:34 PM  
www.headsallempty.org
 
2012-11-15 06:19:18 PM  

orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?

Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No. You ever tried to stare at spreadsheets for 40 hours a week not high? You shouldn't paint with such a broad brush,
 
2012-11-15 06:22:57 PM  
No one half-ass informs and scare mongers like Local News.

You know who is concerned about marijuana addiction? People who run for-profit marijuana addiction clinics.
 
2012-11-15 06:23:23 PM  

serpent_sky:
Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?


I have actually known a few. Remember that while marijuana is not physically addictive anything that feels good can be addictive to the right person (gambling, shopping, sex, getting a new pet cat). The reasonable definition of addiction is: "If it causes problems in your life but you cannot stop or moderate without physical or emotional pain you is an addict".

MJ is really not one of the easy things to get addicted to and I really don't see many new users starting if they weren't going to already so no new spike in MJ addicts on the horizon but lets be honest with ourselves, if people can be addicted to Texas Hold 'Em they can be addicted to MJ.
 
2012-11-15 06:26:23 PM  
It didn't take long after voters approved legalization of pot in Colorado for journalists to start cranking out stories about the scourge of marijuana addiction

Because reporters are always right wing bible thumpers... right?
 
2012-11-15 06:29:13 PM  

OnlyM3: Because reporters are always right wing bible thumpers... right?


Sound more like right wing press releases to me.
 
2012-11-15 06:31:16 PM  

nmemkha: You know who is concerned about marijuana addiction? People who run for-profit marijuana addiction clinics. The liquor, gun, and prison lobbies.

 
2012-11-15 06:32:34 PM  
TFA:"I never worked as hard when I was high as I did when I was sober," said Brown,.

t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-15 06:32:43 PM  

LovingTeacher: serpent_sky:
Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?

I have actually known a few. Remember that while marijuana is not physically addictive anything that feels good can be addictive to the right person (gambling, shopping, sex, getting a new pet cat). The reasonable definition of addiction is: "If it causes problems in your life but you cannot stop or moderate without physical or emotional pain you is an addict".

MJ is really not one of the easy things to get addicted to and I really don't see many new users starting if they weren't going to already so no new spike in MJ addicts on the horizon but lets be honest with ourselves, if people can be addicted to Texas Hold 'Em they can be addicted to MJ.


They aren't addicted they just lack willpower.
 
2012-11-15 06:33:58 PM  

OnlyM3: It didn't take long after voters approved legalization of pot in Colorado for journalists to start cranking out stories about the scourge of marijuana addiction
Because reporters are always right wing bible thumpers... right?


No, but they do make a living peddling drama. There's no drama in reporting "All is well, carry on." -- but if it bleeds, it leads.
 
2012-11-15 06:36:37 PM  
I'm a lazy sonofabiatch. I hate doing stuff that's not fun. I have smoked weed regularly for a span of time and then laid off for years. I remain a lazy sonofabiatch regardless of how high I am. Actually, I have more motivation to do manual labor and repetitive tasks when I'm high.

Cannabis is not like other drugs. It isn't really beholden to the Puritan Ideal that anything that feels good must be bad. Some things that feel good are good.
 
2012-11-15 06:36:37 PM  

Maud Dib: Stupid semicolon.


I hear that they are hard to drive down the hershey highway...
unless you you are on the pot...
 
2012-11-15 06:38:26 PM  
hurr potheads are such loosers
 
2012-11-15 06:40:27 PM  

thamike: nmemkha: You know who is concerned about marijuana addiction? People who run for-profit marijuana addiction clinics. The liquor, gun, and prison lobbies.


You forgot pharmaceutical companies.
 
2012-11-15 06:42:12 PM  
I heard an old person commenting on this the other day

He said the only way to fix this problem is to tar and feather every person they find that uses it and burn down any home it's been bought, sold, used in. People were more receptive to that comment then they would have been if I'd raised my hand and said "uhh... it's harmless, I do it"

Pot. We are going to tar and feather everyone and start burning down homes.

It could be a long time before we actually get national justice on this issue. A loooooong time.

I sure hope not but it seems the years of propaganda worked rather well. The older generations are still very slanted against and if you didn't notice, it's those people that the news organizations pander to for ratings.
 
2012-11-15 06:44:34 PM  
One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.

It could happen to you.
 
2012-11-15 06:49:37 PM  

AeAe: slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.

Are you sure that was pot? Sounds like

angel dust.brown blotter


POT it makes people do some stupid things. FEAR, it makes people do some bad things.
well, Now we'll see if that DARE claptrap works or can we stop selling bumper stickers.
 
2012-11-15 06:49:43 PM  

orbister: Marcus Aurelius: And we all know how effective that outlawing marijuana is at stopping kids from obtaining and smoking it, right?

Do we? We certainly know it's not great, but I'm not sure how we are supposed to know that legalisation would be better.


www.eastbayexpress.com
We can make some inferences, though it's hard to adjust for culture, availability, etc., but you can't get more available and socially acceptable than the Netherlands.

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
"I'm so high right now."
 
2012-11-15 06:50:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.

It could happen to you.


I have a friend that was a regular smoker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the drug screened him and he popped positive for weed. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.
 
2012-11-15 06:50:57 PM  
At first I was like.

www.montrealfilmjournal.com

Then I was like.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-15 06:52:19 PM  

Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.

Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??


Lots and lots of addicts quit whatever they are addicted to. With an addict it is an all or nothing kind of thing. Either they aren't drinking at all or they are all in, drinking from morning till night, they may function OK sometimes but it's never at their potential. I know that you were trying to be funny but there are too many people who are trying to say "It's just your weak will" to let this go. Addiction is a real problem for some people, A tiny percentage of people who ever try a drug will become addicted to it, maybe 10% or less for the most common (alcohol) but for those that do help is the better and cheaper option than incarceration.
 
2012-11-15 06:52:22 PM  

Tenatra: they drug screened him

 
2012-11-15 06:54:00 PM  

Cognizer: FirstNationalBastard:
... since weed is about as physically addictive as mallomars.

Oh man, mallomars. Do you have any? I haven't had a mallomar in... I don't know how long! I neeed one! I'm hurtin', man!

/wtf is a mallomar?


Some research on the innertubes tells me it's essentially a Tunnock's teacake:

upload.wikimedia.org

The product itself consists of a small round shortbread base covered with a hemisphere of Italian meringue, a whipped egg white concoction similar to marshmallow.[10] As this soft white fondant is based on egg white rather than gelatine, it is much more delicate than marshmallow.[11] This is then coated in a thin layer of milk or plain chocolate and, in the case of Tunnock's, wrapped in a distinctive red and silver foil for the more popular milk chocolate variety, and a blue and gold wrapping for the plain chocolate type.


... and not a good example to use in terms of addiction potential.

/I can quit any time I want.
 
2012-11-15 06:55:21 PM  

Tenatra: Rapmaster2000: One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.

It could happen to you.

I have a friend that was a regular smoker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the drug screened him and he popped positive for weed. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.


See! The Demon Weed ruined his life.

/sorry to hear that actually
 
2012-11-15 06:56:38 PM  

Tenatra: Rapmaster2000: One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.

It could happen to you.

I have a friend that was a regular smoker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the drug screened him and he popped positive for weed. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.


Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already
 
2012-11-15 06:58:48 PM  

orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?

Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.


Not if it's work that requires any thought or initiative. Actually, with some really boring, repetitive, mindless tasks, a stoned person will concentrate better, and not get bored. But if they encounter a problem, it will take them longer to solve it.
 
2012-11-15 06:59:02 PM  

orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?

Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.


I'm guessing you've never smoked... or maybe you have and think your reaction is universal. Here's a little more anecdotal evidence for you, back in the day, when I did smoke, I found that I was much better able to focus on tasks that required me to do, well, let's call it "creative research". For instance, searching deeply through the Windows registry, trying to figure out which key could be modified to do the particular function I was trying to accomplish. I made much better, more intuitive connections after smoking a little.

The same was true when writing. I would fight writer's block while straight, but be able to smoothly sail through page after page when smoking. I'd go back later and read what I'd written and be surprised at what I'd managed to create.

I quit a long time ago, though, even though I know there are certain tasks that I'm better at when baked.
 
2012-11-15 07:00:01 PM  

LovingTeacher: Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.

Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??

Lots and lots of addicts quit whatever they are addicted to. With an addict it is an all or nothing kind of thing. Either they aren't drinking at all or they are all in, drinking from morning till night, they may function OK sometimes but it's never at their potential. I know that you were trying to be funny but there are too many people who are trying to say "It's just your weak will" to let this go. Addiction is a real problem for some people, A tiny percentage of people who ever try a drug will become addicted to it, maybe 10% or less for the most common (alcohol) but for those that do help is the better and cheaper option than incarceration.


Seriously. If you don't believe that addiction is a real mental disease, go read a farking book on human psychology.
 
2012-11-15 07:02:26 PM  

titwrench: Do you know what would stop this madness? If the general public could actually sue these "journalists" for sensationalism and misinformation. If these knuckleheads and the publications that print these stupid stories were held accountable there would be a lot less bullshiat to sift through.


Hmm... Let me guess: you smoke a lot of pot. This sounds like a pothead idea to me.
 
2012-11-15 07:04:07 PM  

jso2897: orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?

Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.

Not if it's work that requires any thought or initiative. Actually, with some really boring, repetitive, mindless tasks, a stoned person will concentrate better, and not get bored. But if they encounter a problem, it will take them longer to solve it.


Again, that is true for certain people. Different people react differently to pot, just as they do to alcohol. I'm sure you know people like that, people who, when they drink, act like dicks, or ones who mellow out, or ones who just get sloppy. I used to date a girl who freaked out whenever she smoked, which she did a couple of times to see if it was right for her. The sensations that a lot of people find to be pleasant when being stoned just didn't work right with her brain.

Some people are actually better at solving problems because marijuana allows them to look at a problem in a way that they wouldn't if they were straight.
 
2012-11-15 07:05:11 PM  

Oznog: Bit of a logical paradox there.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-15 07:10:31 PM  

Rincewind53: "Arapahoe House, marijuana addiction is the number one reason why adolescents seek treatment"

And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.


And how many of them are hooked on the pot? Hint: all of them.
 
2012-11-15 07:12:52 PM  
the fuq did I just read?
 
2012-11-15 07:14:24 PM  

Jekylman: thamike: nmemkha: You know who is concerned about marijuana addiction? People who run for-profit marijuana addiction clinics. The liquor, gun, and prison lobbies.

You forgot pharmaceutical companies.


Yeah, well I'm baked.
 
2012-11-15 07:15:03 PM  

Tumunga: Rincewind53: "Arapahoe House, marijuana addiction is the number one reason why adolescents seek treatment"

And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.

And how many of them are hooked on the pot? Hint: all of them.


You're funny.
 
Xai
2012-11-15 07:18:37 PM  
Just because something is legal to use, does not mean you must use it. Perhaps we should ban fatty foods? Fat people don't work as hard as thin people, it affects their health much more too...
 
2012-11-15 07:19:27 PM  

timujin: let's call it "creative research".


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-15 07:19:56 PM  

Cognizer: /wtf is a mallomar?


tdotsports1.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 07:26:33 PM  

titwrench: They aren't addicted they just lack willpower


I don't know if you're trolling or not but addiction is not about willpower just like depression is not about willpower. If you're an addict it is very difficult to stop the behavior you are addicted to. Maybe talk to some Dr.s who have treated addicts or some addicts themselves. That said MJ is very close to non-addictive, I know many drunks and addicts and I could only name two MJ addicts off the top of my head. One got clean, relapsed then got clean again. She was just like any addict, once she fell off the wagon she went whole hog, stoned every day at work at home just before she went to sleep, just after she woke up. The other never got clean and died in an unrelated motorcycle accident, his friends said about him, "He didn't have a problem, he just liked to smoke, he smoked all day, every day". I'm sorry, he was a great guy, but that is a problem.
 
2012-11-15 07:28:31 PM  
To some people alcohol can be physically or psychologically addicting. and weed can be psychologically addicting. But if a person can't stop using one or the other it doesn't really make much difference if they get withdrawal symptoms or not. If one does stop using, the withdrawal symptoms do make quitting harder though. A "close friend" was addicted to both weed and alcohol for most of his adult life and was able to stop using both with the help of a 12 step program. 18 years clean and sober now. But I don't think alcohol or weed should be illegal even though one of those 2 drugs do ruin countless lives. Just because you didn't get addicted or don't think you are, doesn't mean another person can't possibly addicted. Everyone's chemistry and mind is different.
 
2012-11-15 07:43:28 PM  
Going to rehab for marijuana addiction = getting caught by a "random" drug test at work and given the option of going to rehab or getting fired. Who seriously goes because they're actually "addicted" to weed?
 
2012-11-15 07:58:30 PM  
Know your dope fiend. You will not be able to see his eyes because of tea shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim.
 
2012-11-15 07:59:42 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.

So let's continue to trample other people's rights.

Besides, legalizing and taxing marijuana would (in theory at least) provide more money for addiction treatment.


Naaaa. Here in California it would be spent on the gaping black hole of the High Speed Rail to Nowhere project. (Just heard today on the radio that a CA legislator (could he be a Democrat????!??) want to TRIPLE the annual car tax - "to be spent on roads and public transportation in a ratio "to be determined.'")
 
2012-11-15 08:02:04 PM  
Here's the thing. There absolutely is such a thing as responsible recreational use. Just as there is responsible consumption of alcohol. Somebody has a drink at Happy hour with the guys from work, maybe has a bowl watching football on a Sunday.

There is also such a thing as addicts who haven't worked in a decade. Booze, weed, fake weed...the actual substance might not matter. Addicts gonna use, man. Legalization makes folks not have to fear a criminal record. This is certainly a good thing, but it's probably not going to change the world of a {substance} addict.
 
2012-11-15 08:09:02 PM  
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs" - Lily Tomlin

/Yea 60's!
 
2012-11-15 08:17:05 PM  

Scarlioni:
I can but a bottle of whiskey legally ...


Another University of Tennessee grad huh? When butting booze, Maker's Mark really hits the spot.

/UT grad
//Would never funnel booze up the shoot
///Maybe pot brownies though
 
2012-11-15 08:17:31 PM  

Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.

Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??


Um, Nicotine patches helped me quit my smoking not-addiction.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:34 PM  
There is no such thing as marijuana addiction. Countless scientific studies have so shown.

It is possible that Ms. Brown has some other personality disorder. In general, that would be more difficult to fix.
 
2012-11-15 08:36:54 PM  

Pazuzu_the_gargoyle: titwrench: Do you know what would stop this madness? If the general public could actually sue these "journalists" for sensationalism and misinformation. If these knuckleheads and the publications that print these stupid stories were held accountable there would be a lot less bullshiat to sift through.

Hmm... Let me guess: you smoke a lot of pot. This sounds like a pothead idea to me.


A bit but I haven't touched it in 15 years. It makes me want to go do stuff outside but I also get paranoid so I don't enjoy it at least I didn't. Nobody in my social circle smokes it either so it really never comes up. I might take a puff if it was offered, who knows.
 
2012-11-15 08:41:44 PM  

LovingTeacher: titwrench: They aren't addicted they just lack willpower

I don't know if you're trolling or not but addiction is not about willpower just like depression is not about willpower. If you're an addict it is very difficult to stop the behavior you are addicted to. Maybe talk to some Dr.s who have treated addicts or some addicts themselves. That said MJ is very close to non-addictive, I know many drunks and addicts and I could only name two MJ addicts off the top of my head. One got clean, relapsed then got clean again. She was just like any addict, once she fell off the wagon she went whole hog, stoned every day at work at home just before she went to sleep, just after she woke up. The other never got clean and died in an unrelated motorcycle accident, his friends said about him, "He didn't have a problem, he just liked to smoke, he smoked all day, every day". I'm sorry, he was a great guy, but that is a problem.


I'm not trolling in the slightest. People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed. Anyone that tells you you are addicted to shopping or gambling or any of that other stupid shiat is going to charge you to fix yourself.
 
2012-11-15 08:49:50 PM  

LovingTeacher: titwrench: They aren't addicted they just lack willpower

I don't know if you're trolling or not but addiction is not about willpower just like depression is not about willpower. If you're an addict it is very difficult to stop the behavior you are addicted to. Maybe talk to some Dr.s who have treated addicts or some addicts themselves. That said MJ is very close to non-addictive, I know many drunks and addicts and I could only name two MJ addicts off the top of my head. One got clean, relapsed then got clean again. She was just like any addict, once she fell off the wagon she went whole hog, stoned every day at work at home just before she went to sleep, just after she woke up. The other never got clean and died in an unrelated motorcycle accident, his friends said about him, "He didn't have a problem, he just liked to smoke, he smoked all day, every day". I'm sorry, he was a great guy, but that is a problem.


Did it interfere with his daily life? did he have a job, did he pay his bills? if it didn't interfere with his daily life and he worked and took care of his shiat it isn't a problem
 
2012-11-15 09:05:49 PM  
You "cure" addiction, but unless the underlying physiological issues that lead to the addiction are addressed, most just find another vice to abuse. Sometimes the replacement is worse.

Personally, I'd rather have addicts stoned on weed than tweaking on meth.
 
2012-11-15 09:10:42 PM  
Sensationalist media is sensational.

More states will follow suit. The tide is turning.
 
2012-11-15 09:14:57 PM  
>> Rincewind53: And how many of the adolescents are there as part of court deals to avoid jail time? Hint: a lot of them.

My thoughts exactly. And with 18 people on the board of directors, there's a lot of fat paychecks on the line, so they better do something to keep them coming in!
 
2012-11-15 09:15:14 PM  
KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND. YOUR LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT! You will not be able to see his eyes because of Tea-Shades, But his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. He will stagger and babble when questioned. He will not respect your badge. The Dope Fiend fears nothing. He will attack, for no reason, with every weapon at his command-including yours. BEWARE. Any officer apprehending a suspected marijuana addict should use all necessary force immediately. One stitch in time (on him) will usually save nine on you. Good luck. - The Chief

Words to live by, America... words to live by, America... words to live by, America... echo... echo... coooolll... oolll... lll.
 
2012-11-15 09:21:23 PM  

lewismarktwo: Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already


Yea it didn't have anything to do with it. No way in hell was he going to play with wires while he was high, he smoked after work to wind down while he played games. His supervisor saw him get zapped so a report had to be filed.

/I don't think I've ever met an electrician that didn't have a story or two about getting zapped.
 
2012-11-15 10:15:25 PM  

sgnilward: Just because marijuana is not physically addictive doesn't mean there aren't risks...

For example, a pot head without weed is just as annoying, perhaps more so than a dry drunk.

Further, if you need to consume a mind altering chemical to start or get through your day, there are deeper problems that need to be addressed.

One last thing, just a bunch, really... What are the depression rates amongst habitual pot users? And it is NOT a treatment for the condition either.

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly pro-pot, but don't bullshiat yourself or others into thinking there are no I'll effects of habitual use.


I beg to differ. I have seen my ex in a condition where a few hours without booze had him shaking and puking. DTs can be fatal. Potheads are annoying when they can't score but only because they keep going on about it. Not in the same league by a long shot.
 
2012-11-15 10:25:02 PM  
Relevant:
http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2012/11/09/marijwhatnow-a-guide-to-lega l -marijuana-use-in-seattle/

/This is fun
//If it's still legal 5 years from now, look for my Wake n Bake Ranch. Tasting rooms, fine dining, wine pairings...it'll be great
 
2012-11-15 11:16:42 PM  

Dedmon: Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.

Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??

Um, Nicotine patches helped me quit my smoking not-addiction.


Wow, you were able to kick your nicotine addiction by replacing the nicotine you were using with nicotine?

Thanks for the tip.
 
2012-11-15 11:33:37 PM  

Scarlioni: I've known people who smoke pot every day. They were just about worthless for anything. I've known people who drink everyday. They too were about worthless for anything. If you are getting intoxicated every day you have an issue.

I can but a bottle of whiskey legally, I can get drunk in a bar legally. Why can't I purchase a "joint" to smoke in my own home legally?


I have three friends who smoke every day: two are management at a non profit (both have degrees from decent schools) and one is a vet (animal kind, went to one of the best schools in the country).

Not everyone can... but the people who do TEND TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT IT. I didn't know 2/3 of my friends had smoked *every* day until I'd known them for half a year.

I smoke rarely. But it works for them. Those burnouts who smoke every day
... I have a feeling if it wasn't pot it'd be something anything else.
 
2012-11-15 11:37:34 PM  
Marijuana addiction is total crap...while it is habit forming for some individuals it is hardly addictive. By that same rationale water and oxygen are addictive If you don't believe me, try going a day without either of them. I dare you.
 
2012-11-15 11:44:04 PM  

iaazathot: FirstNationalBastard: iaazathot: serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.

Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?

The same types of fools who are "cured" of homosexuality.

Their Marijuana addiction cured their homosexuality. But how will they cure their weed addiction?

A bus moving at 45 mph applied liberally all over the body. Seriously, people "addicted" to weed are sold that diagnosis and then fleeced for bogus treatment programs, see STRAIGHT in the 80's.


Thank you for the mention of Straight! Keep the word out on these legal kidnapping facilities. If there's any kid out there now experiencing this, know that others have as well and you can and will be able to survive and do good things in your future life.
Good luck!
 
2012-11-15 11:49:48 PM  

slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.


If you overdose on pot, you need to get in a hot tub or a sauna and sweat it out. It saved my life once.
 
2012-11-16 12:02:40 AM  

titwrench: I'm not trolling in the slightest. People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed.


How do you know? Does the whole world revolve around you and what you believe or feel?
 
2012-11-16 12:13:35 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I can top that crazy.


Good god, the woman took every ounce of derp with a straight face. I guess that's they key to that job, women are particularly good at it.

On a side note, she is hot, and I bet she occasionally tokes.
 
2012-11-16 12:23:31 AM  
Randy Newman's original lyrics were

"Hopheads got no reason to live"
 
2012-11-16 12:25:37 AM  

timujin: orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?

Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.

I'm guessing you've never smoked... or maybe you have and think your reaction is universal. Here's a little more anecdotal evidence for you, back in the day, when I did smoke, I found that I was much better able to focus on tasks that required me to do, well, let's call it "creative research". For instance, searching deeply through the Windows registry, trying to figure out which key could be modified to do the particular function I was trying to accomplish. I made much better, more intuitive connections after smoking a little.

The same was true when writing. I would fight writer's block while straight, but be able to smoothly sail through page after page when smoking. I'd go back later and read what I'd written and be surprised at what I'd managed to create.

I quit a long time ago, though, even though I know there are certain tasks that I'm better at when baked.


When I'm sober I play decent chess, when I'm high I can compete with the highest (heh heh) level chess players.
 
2012-11-16 01:09:52 AM  

serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.com

I didn't think so.

Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?

Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?


All the ones whose parents paid for them to be cured, I suspect. The more it cost, the more addicted they were, strangely enough.
 
2012-11-16 01:23:13 AM  

slayer199: marijuana is not physically addictive


I'd sure like to know why potheads will never shut the fark up about it.

I ask one pothead friend of mine for some programming advice. I wanted to know his settings for fractal noise for a terrain generation project. He instead starts yammering about the bud he got from his dealer today.

Are potheads incapable of thinking of topics other than pot when they're on it or something? If it weren't for that, I'd be perfectly fine with it. Makes for good TV.
 
2012-11-16 02:48:29 AM  

titwrench: titwrench:
People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed. Anyone that tells you you are addicted to shopping or gambling or any of that other stupid shiat is going to charge you to fix yourself.


I'm guessing that you're a troll, but it's time for some education. "Addiction" is a medical term in the field known as psychiatry. If you start talking about addiction, it implies a medical context. You're correct that psychiatrists generally don't consider behavior to be a true addiction, but you're completely wrong that it's "weak will". They are considered "impulse control disorders", which also includes things like fire setting and compulsive hair plucking.

To anticipate your next argument, the diagnosis is not an excuse to participate in the behaviors, it's a way to standardize treatment. Patients aren't to blame for their conditions (psychiatric or somatic), but they can be held responsible if they don't get treatment. If you have a broken arm, it's your job to get it fixed. It's no different for psychiatric conditions.
 
2012-11-16 02:57:39 AM  
I'm halfway though what I'm calling Just Say NOvember so I'm really getting a kick...

/Near daily smoker
//No withdrawal to speak of
///The wife is a bit harder to tune out though
 
2012-11-16 06:53:55 AM  

Communist_Manifesto: I smoke weed every day ...

/tl; dr: pots not addictive


Uh-huh.
 
2012-11-16 07:00:11 AM  

Rapmaster2000: We can make some inferences, though it's hard to adjust for culture, availability, etc., but you can't get more available and socially acceptable than the Netherlands.


The Dutch attitude to pot is interestingly complicated. They decriminalised it for a mixture of pragmatic (reduces crime) and libertarian (the state shouldn't interfere unnecessarily with individuals) reasons, but that doesn't mean they see pot use as socially acceptable. Quite the opposite, in fact - there is a strong protestant/puritan streak in the Netherlands.

Their view is actually pretty close to my own: smoking pot is stupid, but shouldn't be a crime.
 
2012-11-16 07:04:19 AM  

lewismarktwo:
Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already


Unless, of course, the drug affected his reactions or thinking and led to the shock (he can't have been electrocuted, can he?). Suppose the PP had written

I have a friend that was a regular drinker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the tested him and he popped positive for alcohol. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.

would you be saying "It's all a conspiracy by insurance companies" or would you be saying "Dude probably shouldn't have tried do electrical work while drunk"?
 
Skr
2012-11-16 07:07:58 AM  

vernonFL: Listening to Pink Floyd while contemplating the meaning of one's life isn't normal.

But on pot it is.


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hell, you don't need the pot to feel metaphysical with Echoes - Live at Pompeii playing. It does add a little something something though.
 
2012-11-16 07:09:07 AM  

moefuggenbrew: When I'm sober I play decent chess, when I'm high I can compete with the highest (heh heh) level chess players.


Yeah, and many alcoholics are convinced that they become wittier when they're drunk. Got any evidence to back up your claim?
 
2012-11-16 07:10:38 AM  

Morning Horsefarts: Are potheads incapable of thinking of topics other than pot when they're on it or something?


It does seem to be fairly common for pot users to explain that it isn't addictive, that it doesn't affect them, that they could quit any time they like - and then spend most of their time going on and on and on and on and on about it.
 
2012-11-16 07:43:39 AM  
well i think chicken is sort of addictive. someone with no control could get extremely obese
 
2012-11-16 08:27:40 AM  

orbister: would you be saying "It's all a conspiracy by insurance companies" or would you be saying "Dude probably shouldn't have tried do electrical work while drunk"?


Like I said afterwards, he never went to work high, it was how he relaxed after he got off work. Likewise, I wouldn't blame the alcohol on the accident if the person drank after work and didn't get drunk enough to have a hangover/still be drunk on the clock. Sometimes accidents just happen.
 
2012-11-16 08:42:24 AM  

srhp29: Marijuana Addiction is an oxymoron.
There is nothing physically addictive about marijuana.
If your mind is so weak that you feel you need it to get by, that is your weak mind, not the drug and you would likely find something else to fill that void if you didn't have the weed.


Don't get fooled into believing there is a vast difference between physical, psychological, and emotional addictions. In the end, we're all talking about chemicals affecting the brain.The differences are in the sources and withdrawls.
 
2012-11-16 09:16:38 AM  

cryinoutloud: titwrench: I'm not trolling in the slightest. People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed.

How do you know? Does the whole world revolve around you and what you believe or feel?


This is Fark. You need a less childish retort.
 
2012-11-16 09:28:20 AM  

Pazuzu_the_gargoyle: titwrench: titwrench:
People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed. Anyone that tells you you are addicted to shopping or gambling or any of that other stupid shiat is going to charge you to fix yourself.

I'm guessing that you're a troll, but it's time for some education. "Addiction" is a medical term in the field known as psychiatry. If you start talking about addiction, it implies a medical context. You're correct that psychiatrists generally don't consider behavior to be a true addiction, but you're completely wrong that it's "weak will". They are considered "impulse control disorders", which also includes things like fire setting and compulsive hair plucking.

To anticipate your next argument, the diagnosis is not an excuse to participate in the behaviors, it's a way to standardize treatment. Patients aren't to blame for their conditions (psychiatric or somatic), but they can be held responsible if they don't get treatment. If you have a broken arm, it's your job to get it fixed. It's no different for psychiatric conditions.


There are legitimate addictions that fark with your body chemistry. If you have a gambling or shopping "addiction" it is merely a compulsion and generally a symptom of some other issue. A true addiction is an absolute physical and psychological dependence. When you have to be locked in a room in a hospital to detox, feeling like you are going to die and wishing you could kill yourself for days unable to eat unable to sleep and your body is completely shutting down you have an addiction. Gambling, shopping these aren't addictions I might MIGHT give you compulsion but generally it is weakness and an unwillingness to change.
 
2012-11-16 09:57:28 AM  

Tenatra: Rapmaster2000: One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.

It could happen to you.

I have a friend that was a regular smoker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the drug screened him and he popped positive for weed. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.


If he were truly responsible he could have taken the money spent on weed and paid off his car early, hard to repo something which isn't owned by the bank.
 
2012-11-16 10:41:22 AM  
Door #1: 'Addicted' to pot, watching too much tv, playing video games too much, and eating too many funions.

Door #2: locked in a cage with murderers and rapists for 1-5 years for possesion of pot. and all at taxpayers expense.

/ I'm thinking that Door #1 is definately less harmful to the pot smoker and to society.
 
2012-11-16 11:00:32 AM  

hermitage_deux: Door #1: 'Addicted' to pot, watching too much tv, playing video games too much, and eating too many funions.

Door #2: locked in a cage with murderers and rapists for 1-5 years for possesion of pot. and all at taxpayers expense.

/ I'm thinking that Door #1 is definately less harmful to the pot smoker and to society.


My fiancee's ex got ratted out by his friend so he could get out of jail time. He was pulled over with just over the 'personal use' amount so he got locked up in the state pen for a year and a half, they let him out with 5 years probation and a 10 year suspended sentence. He got farking lucky earlier this year, he got pulled over and had some pot on him (and his kids in the back seat). The judge gave him 2 weeks in jail and even let him have a work release for the day time.
 
2012-11-16 11:23:13 AM  
Meanwhile, the PSA you won't see from a public agency........

Link
 
2012-11-16 01:28:50 PM  

vicioushobbit: You don't get addicted to pot.
You get addicted to being lazy.

Blaming pot makes you an asshat. Everybody else knows how to put down the joint and go to work.

 
2012-11-16 02:53:17 PM  

orbister: lewismarktwo:
Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already

Unless, of course, the drug affected his reactions or thinking and led to the shock (he can't have been electrocuted, can he?). Suppose the PP had written

I have a friend that was a regular drinker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the tested him and he popped positive for alcohol. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.

would you be saying "It's all a conspiracy by insurance companies" or would you be saying "Dude probably shouldn't have tried do electrical work while drunk"?


They don't know if he was high or not. They don't care if he was high or not. They only care that they don't have to pay out because he tested positive for THC metabolites. It doesn't take a conspiracy, it's just a legal excuse they use to renig on their obligation and raise rates.
 
2012-11-16 08:07:43 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Dedmon


YouSirAreAMaroon: Dedmon: Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.


ha ha hahahaha, whatever.

Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.

Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?

Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??

Um, Nicotine patches helped me quit my smoking not-addiction.

Wow, you were able to kick your nicotine addiction by replacing the nicotine you were using with nicotine?

Thanks for the tip.


You are kidding, right? You aren't so stupid as to miss the entire point of my statement, are you?

Here, I'll explain it in terms that a 5 year old can understand.

I smoked 1 pack of cigs every single day for 5 years. I tried to stop a lot of times.
I could not stop smoking.

I used patches until I was able to stop.

I have stopped using patches.

I have not smoked sense, and have no desire to at all. I have not used patches sense, and have no desire to at all.

Is there anything else I"ve missed out, that maybe you can nitpick? I was referring to an earlier statement that if you can quit smoking weed, then you were never addicted. I was anecdotally pointing out that I was very much indeed addicted to tobacco, but am no longer, due to the aid of nicotene patches and a lot of willpower.
 
2012-11-16 09:10:32 PM  

Dedmon: I have not smoked sense,



You should try the sense, I hear it's good
 
2012-11-16 10:59:10 PM  

lewismarktwo: orbister: lewismarktwo:
Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already

Unless, of course, the drug affected his reactions or thinking and led to the shock (he can't have been electrocuted, can he?). Suppose the PP had written

I have a friend that was a regular drinker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the tested him and he popped positive for alcohol. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.

would you be saying "It's all a conspiracy by insurance companies" or would you be saying "Dude probably shouldn't have tried do electrical work while drunk"?

They don't know if he was high or not. They don't care if he was high or not. They only care that they don't have to pay out because he tested positive for THC metabolites. It doesn't take a conspiracy, it's just a legal excuse they use to renig on their obligation and raise rates.


The shiatty part is that alcohol is water soluble so it comes out in breath vapor and urine, whereas THC is fat soluble so it'll bind itself with cellulose. Tends to exist in the body much longer than it has an effect.
 
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