titwrench: They aren't addicted they just lack willpower
Eddie Adams from Torrance: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.So let's continue to trample other people's rights.Besides, legalizing and taxing marijuana would (in theory at least) provide more money for addiction treatment.
Scarlioni: I can but a bottle of whiskey legally ...
Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.ha ha hahahaha, whatever.Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??
Pazuzu_the_gargoyle: titwrench: Do you know what would stop this madness? If the general public could actually sue these "journalists" for sensationalism and misinformation. If these knuckleheads and the publications that print these stupid stories were held accountable there would be a lot less bullshiat to sift through.Hmm... Let me guess: you smoke a lot of pot. This sounds like a pothead idea to me.
LovingTeacher: titwrench: They aren't addicted they just lack willpowerI don't know if you're trolling or not but addiction is not about willpower just like depression is not about willpower. If you're an addict it is very difficult to stop the behavior you are addicted to. Maybe talk to some Dr.s who have treated addicts or some addicts themselves. That said MJ is very close to non-addictive, I know many drunks and addicts and I could only name two MJ addicts off the top of my head. One got clean, relapsed then got clean again. She was just like any addict, once she fell off the wagon she went whole hog, stoned every day at work at home just before she went to sleep, just after she woke up. The other never got clean and died in an unrelated motorcycle accident, his friends said about him, "He didn't have a problem, he just liked to smoke, he smoked all day, every day". I'm sorry, he was a great guy, but that is a problem.
Ow! That was my feelings!: Get out of here, Dewey!
lewismarktwo: Which has nothing to do with cannabis itself and everything to do with draconian laws and money grubbing insurance companies. /but you knew that already
sgnilward: Just because marijuana is not physically addictive doesn't mean there aren't risks...For example, a pot head without weed is just as annoying, perhaps more so than a dry drunk.Further, if you need to consume a mind altering chemical to start or get through your day, there are deeper problems that need to be addressed.One last thing, just a bunch, really... What are the depression rates amongst habitual pot users? And it is NOT a treatment for the condition either.Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly pro-pot, but don't bullshiat yourself or others into thinking there are no I'll effects of habitual use.
Dedmon: Oznog: AeAe: violentsalvation: "When I heard the results of the election I did cry," said Alicia Brown, a former marijuana addict who has been clean for 17 years.ha ha hahahaha, whatever.Yessss.. because she had an addiction problem, that means everyone else will as well so it's best to keep it illegal and arrest anyone that uses it.Wait... can you really claim to have been an "addict" if you did it and gave it up for 17 years?Bit of a logical paradox there. An addict CAN'T quit, which is a very simplistic definition of addiction. If you did it and quit, were you ever an addict??Um, Nicotine patches helped me quit my smoking not-addiction.
Scarlioni: I've known people who smoke pot every day. They were just about worthless for anything. I've known people who drink everyday. They too were about worthless for anything. If you are getting intoxicated every day you have an issue.I can but a bottle of whiskey legally, I can get drunk in a bar legally. Why can't I purchase a "joint" to smoke in my own home legally?
iaazathot: FirstNationalBastard: iaazathot: serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.comI didn't think so.Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?The same types of fools who are "cured" of homosexuality.Their Marijuana addiction cured their homosexuality. But how will they cure their weed addiction?A bus moving at 45 mph applied liberally all over the body. Seriously, people "addicted" to weed are sold that diagnosis and then fleeced for bogus treatment programs, see STRAIGHT in the 80's.
slave2grind: One time I OD'd on pot. I tried to drown myself in a bowl of water. I cut my face to shreds and ran into the dmv naked. I have no idea how I got there. I would have died from the thc saturation if it had not been for the top notch medical professionals and prayers of loved ones.Pot is evil.
titwrench: I'm not trolling in the slightest. People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed.
Ow! That was my feelings!: I can top that crazy.
timujin: orbister: timujin: wow, your anecdotal evidence is extremely compelling. Now, how about those people who work better when smoking regularly?Ah yes. Those people. They certainly think they work better, just as they think they screw better. Their colleagues and partners, however, will generally tell you something rather different.I'm guessing you've never smoked... or maybe you have and think your reaction is universal. Here's a little more anecdotal evidence for you, back in the day, when I did smoke, I found that I was much better able to focus on tasks that required me to do, well, let's call it "creative research". For instance, searching deeply through the Windows registry, trying to figure out which key could be modified to do the particular function I was trying to accomplish. I made much better, more intuitive connections after smoking a little.The same was true when writing. I would fight writer's block while straight, but be able to smoothly sail through page after page when smoking. I'd go back later and read what I'd written and be surprised at what I'd managed to create.I quit a long time ago, though, even though I know there are certain tasks that I'm better at when baked.
serpent_sky: Sybarite: 25.media.tumblr.comI didn't think so.Is that CM Punk smirking at him in the background or someone who looks a hell of a lot like him?Also: who on earth has EVER been "addicted" to marijuana?
slayer199: marijuana is not physically addictive
titwrench: titwrench:People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed. Anyone that tells you you are addicted to shopping or gambling or any of that other stupid shiat is going to charge you to fix yourself.
Communist_Manifesto: I smoke weed every day .../tl; dr: pots not addictive
Rapmaster2000: We can make some inferences, though it's hard to adjust for culture, availability, etc., but you can't get more available and socially acceptable than the Netherlands.
vernonFL: Listening to Pink Floyd while contemplating the meaning of one's life isn't normal.But on pot it is.[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]
moefuggenbrew: When I'm sober I play decent chess, when I'm high I can compete with the highest (heh heh) level chess players.
Morning Horsefarts: Are potheads incapable of thinking of topics other than pot when they're on it or something?
orbister: would you be saying "It's all a conspiracy by insurance companies" or would you be saying "Dude probably shouldn't have tried do electrical work while drunk"?
srhp29: Marijuana Addiction is an oxymoron.There is nothing physically addictive about marijuana.If your mind is so weak that you feel you need it to get by, that is your weak mind, not the drug and you would likely find something else to fill that void if you didn't have the weed.
cryinoutloud: titwrench: I'm not trolling in the slightest. People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed.How do you know? Does the whole world revolve around you and what you believe or feel?
Pazuzu_the_gargoyle: titwrench: titwrench:People aren't addicted to gambling or most of your other examples they're just weak willed. Anyone that tells you you are addicted to shopping or gambling or any of that other stupid shiat is going to charge you to fix yourself.I'm guessing that you're a troll, but it's time for some education. "Addiction" is a medical term in the field known as psychiatry. If you start talking about addiction, it implies a medical context. You're correct that psychiatrists generally don't consider behavior to be a true addiction, but you're completely wrong that it's "weak will". They are considered "impulse control disorders", which also includes things like fire setting and compulsive hair plucking.To anticipate your next argument, the diagnosis is not an excuse to participate in the behaviors, it's a way to standardize treatment. Patients aren't to blame for their conditions (psychiatric or somatic), but they can be held responsible if they don't get treatment. If you have a broken arm, it's your job to get it fixed. It's no different for psychiatric conditions.
Tenatra: Rapmaster2000: One time I smoked the pot. Now, I'm just a journalist. I'm broke. People don't respect me.It could happen to you.I have a friend that was a regular smoker. A few months ago he was on the job and got electrocuted, the drug screened him and he popped positive for weed. Fired on the spot and lost a $1,800/wk job, couldn't make payments on his car so he drove it till they found him and repossessed it. No money to pay the bills either so now him, his wife and 2 children live in the inlaws' basement.
hermitage_deux: Door #1: 'Addicted' to pot, watching too much tv, playing video games too much, and eating too many funions.Door #2: locked in a cage with murderers and rapists for 1-5 years for possesion of pot. and all at taxpayers expense./ I'm thinking that Door #1 is definately less harmful to the pot smoker and to society.
vicioushobbit: You don't get addicted to pot.You get addicted to being lazy.Blaming pot makes you an asshat. Everybody else knows how to put down the joint and go to work.
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