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2012-11-15 05:38:29 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Sargun: Why the fark aren't any news channels covering this

Saturation. We're tired of this story repeating every couple years, and never coming to a conclusion.


CNN And Fox at least have it somewhat featured on the front page. MSNBC (err NBC news) barely even mentions it.
 
2012-11-15 05:40:36 PM  

Tellingthem: Blue_Blazer: Sargun: Why the fark aren't any news channels covering this

Saturation. We're tired of this story repeating every couple years, and never coming to a conclusion.

CNN And Fox at least have it somewhat featured on the front page. MSNBC (err NBC news) barely even mentions it.


Ahh MSNBC has it on a side bar in the corner. Missed it until I refreshed.
 
2012-11-15 05:43:02 PM  

Marine1: Not particularly wonderful land either.


I hear the beaches are to die for.
 
2012-11-15 05:44:40 PM  

Psycat: I always thought a better solution after WWII would have been to have the Jews emigrate to Australia instead of settling in the Palestine. Australia had a desperate need of immigrants at the time, Queensland would have about the same climate as the Mideast, and the Jews would have a lot of land in a democratic country in which to settle. Unfortunately, people have a strong attachment to their ancestral lands and the crumbling British empire needed an ally in the area, so now we have this never-ending mess...



Prior to WWII the Jews of Europe had no yearning to go to Palestine.

Zionist leaders had been trying for decades to con European (and American) Jews into moving there- but with very little success. Why? They were perfectly content as Europeans, and wanted nothing to do with some wild-eyed scheme to form a "Jewish Homeland" in the middle of a stinking desert that was already occupied by people who weren't exactly keen on the idea of being overrun by European interlopers.

In fact, so few Jews moved there that the Zionist Dream of creating a Jewish State was all but doomed. Were it not for Hitler literally FORCING the Jews out - and the fact that Palestine was virtually the only option, the Zionist Dream would have crashed.

WWII and the Holocaust was an unimaginable disaster for Jews, but a godsend for the Zionists - for without these events, they would never have had enough Jewish souls to start their little country.

These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust". 

LOL!
 
2012-11-15 05:46:37 PM  

Tatsuma: So far, what I can gather is that two rockets fell just south of Tel Aviv, and one fell in the water next to Yaffa.

This is the stupidest thing Hamas could have done.


Exactly. I don't know any country in the middle east that is as badass as the Israeli military. Those guys are so motherf*cking tough they make the U.S. military look about as relevant as a poopy-flavoured lollipop. They don't mess the f*ck around - they've had a history the average soft/cushy U.S. citizen can't comprehend. I wouldn't f*ck with them.

/only an opinion.
 
2012-11-15 05:51:28 PM  

chiefsfaninkc: Good thing that Obama "The Sort of a God" was reelected otherwise the middle east could turn into a powder keg.


While the middle east is turning into a powder keg, Obama is focused on gangham dancing, saving Big Birds life and making sure the people he appointed are keeping their dicks in their pants and not setting loose classified information. But maybe the cheaters are taking their role model from the last Democrat in office. Perhaps Obama too...who knows.

/not an opinion
 
2012-11-15 05:52:55 PM  

Amos Quito: These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust".


No I think that because you said

1- Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the events that made Israel possible.
2- Israel wouldn't have been possible without without the holocaust.

You have admitted those a number of times.

As 2 clearly states (and isn't too controversial, at least with an Israel as we know it) one of the events that made Israel possible is the holocaust, 1 clearly states that (according to you) Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind those events, hence you think Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the Holocaust.

/there is also your claim that if their was no Hitler zionists would have manufactured one
//and you previous claim that all of zionism was a conspiracy
///have fun calling me the village idiot for pointing out the conclusion to your derp
 
2012-11-15 05:54:11 PM  

Amos Quito: Psycat: I always thought a better solution after WWII would have been to have the Jews emigrate to Australia instead of settling in the Palestine. Australia had a desperate need of immigrants at the time, Queensland would have about the same climate as the Mideast, and the Jews would have a lot of land in a democratic country in which to settle. Unfortunately, people have a strong attachment to their ancestral lands and the crumbling British empire needed an ally in the area, so now we have this never-ending mess...


Prior to WWII the Jews of Europe had no yearning to go to Palestine.

Zionist leaders had been trying for decades to con European (and American) Jews into moving there- but with very little success. Why? They were perfectly content as Europeans, and wanted nothing to do with some wild-eyed scheme to form a "Jewish Homeland" in the middle of a stinking desert that was already occupied by people who weren't exactly keen on the idea of being overrun by European interlopers.

In fact, so few Jews moved there that the Zionist Dream of creating a Jewish State was all but doomed. Were it not for Hitler literally FORCING the Jews out - and the fact that Palestine was virtually the only option, the Zionist Dream would have crashed.

WWII and the Holocaust was an unimaginable disaster for Jews, but a godsend for the Zionists - for without these events, they would never have had enough Jewish souls to start their little country.

These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust". 

LOL!


I think i know the next part of the story:

And so the Brits decided to open up this territory under British control to the Jews because neither the UK nor US wanted to take in all those displaced during WWII. The Brits said, move here, this is our land we won the rights to it and we'll let you have it AND we'll support you while you make your new home.

And the Palestinians said, "wait!, what? you Brits, you conquered this land and now you're just giving it away? but but but, we wanted it"

and then everything blew up.
 
2012-11-15 05:58:45 PM  
i'm pretty sure Israel did this... false flag.
 
2012-11-15 05:59:48 PM  

liam76: Amos Quito: These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust".

No I think that because you said

1- Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the events that made Israel possible.
2- Israel wouldn't have been possible without without the holocaust.

You have admitted those a number of times.

As 2 clearly states (and isn't too controversial, at least with an Israel as we know it) one of the events that made Israel possible is the holocaust, 1 clearly states that (according to you) Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind those events, hence you think Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the Holocaust.

/there is also your claim that if their was no Hitler zionists would have manufactured one
//and you previous claim that all of zionism was a conspiracy
///have fun calling me the village idiot for pointing out the conclusion to your derp


These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.
 
2012-11-15 06:00:12 PM  

illogic: Flori


Do you know where rich Israeli's go when the fighting starts?

South Florida
 
2012-11-15 06:02:08 PM  

Amos Quito: Actually the timing of this little escapade is VERY convenient for Netanyahu and the Likudniks.

It seems he was receiving some VERY bad press at home because he had been working his ASS off on collaboration with certain diaspora Zionists to have Obama tossed out of the White House and replaced by the willing Mormon golem.

Of course Obama knew well what the Zionist plotters were up to, and THAT, friends, is why he SNUBBED Bibi on his recent visit to the US.

The bad news is that Obama won - the hated Schwarze was back in the White House, and rumors were swirling around Israel that Bibi had gambled big, and failed. It was being said that Netanyahu and the Likudniks have spoiled any chance of good relations with the Obama administration.

With Bibi's own election coming up in a few months, things were looking pretty grim for Yoohoo and the Hardliners.

What to do? Well, there's nothing like a little military action to shake and wake the patriotism, cohesiveness,and ethnocentrism amonst the masses, and to remind them that they NEED hard-core asshats like BibiCo, schwarze or no schwarze.

Scare the shiat out of the Jews - kill off a few Pallies, come off looking like a hero... just what the doctor ordered.


Yeah, I'm going to need to start getting your newsletter.
 
2012-11-15 06:02:50 PM  

badaboom: liam76: Amos Quito: These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust".

No I think that because you said

1- Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the events that made Israel possible.
2- Israel wouldn't have been possible without without the holocaust.

You have admitted those a number of times.

As 2 clearly states (and isn't too controversial, at least with an Israel as we know it) one of the events that made Israel possible is the holocaust, 1 clearly states that (according to you) Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind those events, hence you think Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the Holocaust.

/there is also your claim that if their was no Hitler zionists would have manufactured one
//and you previous claim that all of zionism was a conspiracy
///have fun calling me the village idiot for pointing out the conclusion to your derp

These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.


I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.
 
2012-11-15 06:05:08 PM  

madgonad: Yeah, I'm going to need to start getting your newsletter


Maybe his newsletter can explain who was responsible for the rockets from Gaza. I don't like going to stormfront to read his newsletter, and he won't answer so if you get the answer I would appreciate if you share with he class.
 
2012-11-15 06:06:21 PM  

Amos Quito: Psycat: I always thought a better solution after WWII would have been to have the Jews emigrate to Australia instead of settling in the Palestine. Australia had a desperate need of immigrants at the time, Queensland would have about the same climate as the Mideast, and the Jews would have a lot of land in a democratic country in which to settle. Unfortunately, people have a strong attachment to their ancestral lands and the crumbling British empire needed an ally in the area, so now we have this never-ending mess...


Prior to WWII the Jews of Europe had no yearning to go to Palestine.

Zionist leaders had been trying for decades to con European (and American) Jews into moving there- but with very little success. Why? They were perfectly content as Europeans, and wanted nothing to do with some wild-eyed scheme to form a "Jewish Homeland" in the middle of a stinking desert that was already occupied by people who weren't exactly keen on the idea of being overrun by European interlopers.

In fact, so few Jews moved there that the Zionist Dream of creating a Jewish State was all but doomed. Were it not for Hitler literally FORCING the Jews out - and the fact that Palestine was virtually the only option, the Zionist Dream would have crashed.

WWII and the Holocaust was an unimaginable disaster for Jews, but a godsend for the Zionists - for without these events, they would never have had enough Jewish souls to start their little country.

These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust". 

LOL!


lol...indeed.

the pinnacle of truth and reason, he is.
 
2012-11-15 06:07:06 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: queezyweezel: JusticeandIndependence: queezyweezel: JusticeandIndependence: Ego edo infantia cattus: JusticeandIndependence: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x560]

I cried like that too when my Honey Baked Ham arrived late.


/too soon?
//sorry


I bet all your friends think your hilarious.

No not really. They think I'm a doofus. Only on the interwebs am I George Carlin.

George Carlin doesn't make fun of people grieving over their dead children. All you are is despicable.

1. I wasn't making fun of him at all.
2. This is Fark, grow the fark up. People joke all the time around here.

The guy making light of a man crying while holding his dead child is telling me to grow up, and justifying it because other people do it too...wow.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 253x199]


no

really, you are being a large piece of shiat

which, if that's your goal, well done indeed

otherwise, stop being such a large piece of shiat
 
2012-11-15 06:09:39 PM  

liam76: badaboom: liam76: Amos Quito: These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust".

No I think that because you said

1- Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the events that made Israel possible.
2- Israel wouldn't have been possible without without the holocaust.

You have admitted those a number of times.

As 2 clearly states (and isn't too controversial, at least with an Israel as we know it) one of the events that made Israel possible is the holocaust, 1 clearly states that (according to you) Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind those events, hence you think Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the Holocaust.

/there is also your claim that if their was no Hitler zionists would have manufactured one
//and you previous claim that all of zionism was a conspiracy
///have fun calling me the village idiot for pointing out the conclusion to your derp

These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.

I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.


Interesting. Kinda like the Klan. Gotta decide WHICH group you hate the most and rank them. "Man I hate them blacks but don't get me started on teh Joos and the gays oh boy."
 
2012-11-15 06:11:30 PM  

liam76: badaboom: liam76: Amos Quito: These are all easily referenced facts. And this is why Fark's Village Idiot liam76 claims that "I think Jews were behind the Holocaust".

No I think that because you said

1- Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the events that made Israel possible.
2- Israel wouldn't have been possible without without the holocaust.

You have admitted those a number of times.

As 2 clearly states (and isn't too controversial, at least with an Israel as we know it) one of the events that made Israel possible is the holocaust, 1 clearly states that (according to you) Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind those events, hence you think Jews in general and zionists in particular were behind the Holocaust.

/there is also your claim that if their was no Hitler zionists would have manufactured one
//and you previous claim that all of zionism was a conspiracy
///have fun calling me the village idiot for pointing out the conclusion to your derp

These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.

I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.


But it sounds like I was off. Guess anti-semites come in all sizes.
 
2012-11-15 06:15:20 PM  
Yes, but did they kill any Austrian Archdukes yet?
 
2012-11-15 06:16:54 PM  

liam76: I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays


3 of my "Farkied" notes for him support this suspicion, on other issues.
 
2012-11-15 06:20:23 PM  

KrustyKitten: I think i know the next part of the story:

And so the Brits decided to open up this territory under British control to the Jews because neither the UK nor US wanted to take in all those displaced during WWII



No, actually the Brits had struck a quid pro quo deal with the Zionist leaders to open up Palestine for a "Jewish Homeland" in 1917 - some TWO DECADES prior to the onset of WWII. The Brits promised the land, and the Zionists pledged to help the Brits get funding and Jewish support during WWI. This is common knowledge. What is lesser known is that the GERMANS were, at the same time, trying to woo the support of the Zionists ALSO by offering them Palestine.

The Zionists liked the British offer better. The Brits won the war and gained control of Palestine, and the rest is history.

During the 1930'shiatler and the Nazis were working hand-in-hand to move as many Jews as possible OUT of Germany and INTO Palestine in a little arrangement known as the Haavara (Transfer) agreement.

Strange bedfellows? You bet. But it served the interests of the Nazis (who waned Jews OUT) and the Zionists (who needed warm Jewish bodies to populate their budding state). This continued right up until the onset of WWII.

KrustyKitten: The Brits said, move here, this is our land we won the rights to it and we'll let you have it AND we'll support you while you make your new home.



Again no.

The Brits weren't too keen on the Jews overrunning the place: Their idea had been that the Jews and Palestinian natives would coexist, and even tried to LIMIT the number of Jews pouring into Palestine. But once the Zionists had established their foothold, they saw the Brits as an obstacle - a PAIN IN THEIR RACIST ASSES, so they gave the Brits the bums rush - bombing their headquarters at the King David Hotel in what was the FIRST and WORST act of terrorism ever committed in the Palestine region.

upload.wikimedia.org

Menachem Begin was the terrorist mastermind behind this bombing, that killed 91 and injured 46. He was later "punished" by being elected Prime Minister of Israel.


KrustyKitten: And the Palestinians said, "wait!, what? you Brits, you conquered this land and now you're just giving it away? but but but, we wanted it"

and then everything blew up.



Not really, as I said above, the Brits really DID want to make sure that the Palestinians were treated fairly. But once the Zionists seized power, they were farked - chased off into refugee camps, open-air prisons (Gaza), beaten up, downtrodden and treated like shiat by the Zionist Regime ever since.

Sorry if I spoiled your oversimplified version of "reality".
 
2012-11-15 06:36:25 PM  

Amos Quito: The Brits weren't too keen on the Jews overrunning the place: Their idea had been that the Jews and Palestinian natives would coexist, and even tried to LIMIT the number of Jews pouring into Palestine. But once the Zionists had established their foothold, they saw the Brits as an obstacle - a PAIN IN THEIR RACIST ASSES, so they gave the Brits the bums rush - bombing their headquarters at the King David Hotel in what was the FIRST and WORST act of terrorism ever committed in the Palestine region.


Not familiar with the Arab Revolt, are we?

Terrorism had been going on for a while.

So the question is does Amos have a glaring ignorance on this bit of history he can spout numerous facts about, does he like to ignore any non-jewish terrorism, or is there some other reason for him being wrong?
 
2012-11-15 06:39:35 PM  

liam76: These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.

I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.



Um, I voted for Obama, and I have NO issues with gays or anyone marrying whoever they wish. That said, I'm not a "progressive" either, I don't subscribe to anyone's "platform". I do and say what I believe are in the best interests of myself, my family, my nation, and humanity as a whole.

I'm also no fan of Islam - nor of Christianity, Judaism or ANY religion - especially the Abramic faiths - who rape, pillage, murder and spoil blood in the name of "God".

FARK THAT.

But what I detest most of all is hypocrisy, and the Zionist State takes the cake - they continue to bellyache and whine about how they SUFFERED under Christianity, the SUFFERED under Islam, the SUFFERED under Naziism, and then they turn around to be ten times the intolerant, racist, bigoted, ruthless child of hell that they incessantly moan about.

Zionism was a BAD IDEA from day one. All you have to do is look at the history of how it was conceived, schemed into existence at an extreme price, and the fact that it is and always has been surrounded by resentful, bristling neighbors - and will be for the foreseeable future, and you can see that this is true.

I don't know how this will end, but it won't be pretty. Not for the Israelis, not for their neighbors, and not for the rest of the planet.
IMO Israel is indeed a pariah, and the single greatest obstacle to peace on the planet - the fuse that will set off the Big One.

Shalom, baby.
 
2012-11-15 06:41:21 PM  

Amos Quito: liam76: These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.

I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.


Um, I voted for Obama, and I have NO issues with gays or anyone marrying whoever they wish. That said, I'm not a "progressive" either, I don't subscribe to anyone's "platform". I do and say what I believe are in the best interests of myself, my family, my nation, and humanity as a whole.

I'm also no fan of Islam - nor of Christianity, Judaism or ANY religion - especially the Abramic faiths - who rape, pillage, murder and spoil blood in the name of "God".

FARK THAT.

But what I detest most of all is hypocrisy, and the Zionist State takes the cake - they continue to bellyache and whine about how they SUFFERED under Christianity, the SUFFERED under Islam, the SUFFERED under Naziism, and then they turn around to be ten times the intolerant, racist, bigoted, ruthless child of hell that they incessantly moan about.

Zionism was a BAD IDEA from day one. All you have to do is look at the history of how it was conceived, schemed into existence at an extreme price, and the fact that it is and always has been surrounded by resentful, bristling neighbors - and will be for the foreseeable future, and you can see that this is true.

I don't know how this will end, but it won't be pretty. Not for the Israelis, not for their neighbors, and not for the rest of the planet.
IMO Israel is indeed a pariah, and the single greatest obstacle to peace on the planet - the fuse that will set off the Big One.

...



Looks like Amos even believes in the blood libels.
 
2012-11-15 06:43:03 PM  

liam76: Amos Quito: The Brits weren't too keen on the Jews overrunning the place: Their idea had been that the Jews and Palestinian natives would coexist, and even tried to LIMIT the number of Jews pouring into Palestine. But once the Zionists had established their foothold, they saw the Brits as an obstacle - a PAIN IN THEIR RACIST ASSES, so they gave the Brits the bums rush - bombing their headquarters at the King David Hotel in what was the FIRST and WORST act of terrorism ever committed in the Palestine region.

Not familiar with the Arab Revolt, are we?



Thank you for correcting my oversight.

Glad you agree with the rest of my assessments.
 
2012-11-15 06:44:25 PM  

Diogenes The Cynic: Looks like Amos even believes in the blood libels.



What "blood libels"?

Perhaps you should look that up, eh?
 
2012-11-15 06:45:55 PM  

Amos Quito: liam76: These are my favorite threads. I favorite all the Anti-Semites. Then I get to see the same people in other threads supporting progressive ideas like homosexual or women's rights. You know. The things that are tolerated in the Muslim world and denounced in Israel. The Progressives have no idea that they are hated by the Islamofascists and would among the first to go under the Caliphate.

I am pretty sure Amos isn't a fan of gays, and would probably vote republican hands down due to their stance on women's rights and gays, if they weren't so pro-Israel.

But I get your point.


Um, I voted for Obama, and I have NO issues with gays or anyone marrying whoever they wish. That said, I'm not a "progressive" either, I don't subscribe to anyone's "platform". I do and say what I believe are in the best interests of myself, my family, my nation, and humanity as a whole.

I'm also no fan of Islam - nor of Christianity, Judaism or ANY religion - especially the Abramic faiths - who rape, pillage, murder and spoil blood in the name of "God".

FARK THAT.

But what I detest most of all is hypocrisy, and the Zionist State takes the cake - they continue to bellyache and whine about how they SUFFERED under Christianity, the SUFFERED under Islam, the SUFFERED under Naziism, and then they turn around to be ten times the intolerant, racist, bigoted, ruthless child of hell that they incessantly moan about.

Zionism was a BAD IDEA from day one. All you have to do is look at the history of how it was conceived, schemed into existence at an extreme price, and the fact that it is and always has been surrounded by resentful, bristling neighbors - and will be for the foreseeable future, and you can see that this is true.

I don't know how this will end, but it won't be pretty. Not for the Israelis, not for their neighbors, and not for the rest of the planet.
IMO Israel is indeed a pariah, and the single greatest obstacle to peace on the planet - the fuse that will set off the Big One.

...


And yet there they are. Living. Cry all you want, but the solution is not in the past.
 
2012-11-15 06:48:02 PM  

Amos Quito: But what I detest most of all is hypocrisy, and the Zionist State takes the cake - they continue to bellyache and whine about how they SUFFERED under Christianity, the SUFFERED under Islam, the SUFFERED under Naziism, and then they turn around to be ten times the intolerant, racist, bigoted, ruthless child of hell that they incessantly moan about.


Jesus you are a farking moron.

Under Nazisim millions of jews were murdered, they lost all their property,etc.

Under the so called "ghettos" or "open air prisons" of Gaza and the west bank literacy, life expectancy, and infant mortality have all improved. Prior to the second intifada (where they actually attacked Israel, vice your alleged "jews declare war on Germany BS) they had the fastest growing economy in the ME. Never mind the Arabs who are citizens of Israel.

But you are going are going to sit there and argue they are worse than Nazi's?
 
2012-11-15 06:49:48 PM  
Send those Gaza people to live in Williamsburg.
 
2012-11-15 06:57:00 PM  

Amos Quito: liam76: Amos Quito: The Brits weren't too keen on the Jews overrunning the place: Their idea had been that the Jews and Palestinian natives would coexist, and even tried to LIMIT the number of Jews pouring into Palestine. But once the Zionists had established their foothold, they saw the Brits as an obstacle - a PAIN IN THEIR RACIST ASSES, so they gave the Brits the bums rush - bombing their headquarters at the King David Hotel in what was the FIRST and WORST act of terrorism ever committed in the Palestine region.

Not familiar with the Arab Revolt, are we?

Terrorism had been going on for a while.

So the question is does Amos have a glaring ignorance on this bit of history he can spout numerous facts about, does he like to ignore any non-jewish terrorism, or is there some other reason for him being wrong?

Thank you for correcting my oversight.

Glad you agree with the rest of my assessments.


No I don't. It was just an easily disprovable fact. Anything more complicated than that with you gets lost in your derp.

By body count, yes it was the worst, but they attempted to give warnings (your link) so it wasn't as if that body count was planned.

The idea of co-existence doesn't really jive with the Peel commission.

The immigration limits were largely in response to the arab revolt.
 
2012-11-15 07:03:45 PM  

badaboom: And yet there they are. Living. Cry all you want, but the solution is not in the past.



Yes, living and aggressively encroaching and keeping those that they occupy in misery and under siege and making more and more enemies every day.

You say that the "the solution is not in the past", and you're right - but the KEY to the solution IS in the past - in recognizing the mistakes that were made that caused past sufferings, in accepting that they were not simply the victims of "drive-by-history", but played an active role in it, and in taking responsibility for the role played.

If one is so obsessed with the victim mentality that he refuses to see his own mistakes, he will continue to make them, over and over and over,

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
-- Albert Einstein
 
2012-11-15 07:04:54 PM  

liam76: Amos Quito: But what I detest most of all is hypocrisy, and the Zionist State takes the cake - they continue to bellyache and whine about how they SUFFERED under Christianity, the SUFFERED under Islam, the SUFFERED under Naziism, and then they turn around to be ten times the intolerant, racist, bigoted, ruthless child of hell that they incessantly moan about.

Jesus you are a farking moron.

Under Nazisim millions of jews were murdered, they lost all their property,etc.

Under the so called "ghettos" or "open air prisons" of Gaza and the west bank literacy, life expectancy, and infant mortality have all improved. Prior to the second intifada (where they actually attacked Israel, vice your alleged "jews declare war on Germany BS) they had the fastest growing economy in the ME. Never mind the Arabs who are citizens of Israel.

But you are going are going to sit there and argue they are worse than Nazi's?



Errands to run.

BRB
 
2012-11-15 07:11:53 PM  
This Country's Going to War Link
 
2012-11-15 07:13:36 PM  

Amos Quito: in recognizing the mistakes that were made that caused past sufferings, in accepting that they were not simply the victims of "drive-by-history", but played an active role in it, and in taking responsibility for the role played.


Yeah, this guy totally thinks jews weren't behind the holocaust.
 
2012-11-15 07:16:33 PM  
Israel declares war on Hamas:

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2012-11-15 07:16:52 PM  
This is the worst Israeli thread ever. All I see are words. Where are pics of IDF girls?
 
2012-11-15 07:24:09 PM  

oukewldave: This is the worst Israeli thread ever. All I see are words. Where are pics of IDF girls?


We need Zohan!

image3.mouthshut.com
 
2012-11-15 07:51:22 PM  

BEER STEAK: a major influx of productive workers would be great for Greece or Spain's economy.


The workers in Greece and Spain are productive, the problem is they're no longer useful to those at the top. They can very well take care of themselves, but they're no longer good for the rich parasites and government bureaucrats.
And austerity is pretty much just theft/class warfare, it's well documented that it doesn't work and even the IMF (part of the parasitic troika) admitted as much.
If you're useless to the rich and the state/capitalist symbiosis they'll either appease you by giving you scraps of what they stole from you (welfare) or steal everything, allow you to die, and beat/kill you if you choose to resist in any effective way.
Also, note that Israelis were starting to take to the streets and focus on their real enemies. But now we have a convenient distraction.
 
2012-11-15 07:53:44 PM  

ACallForPeace: Also, note that Israelis were starting to take to the streets and focus on their real enemies. But now we have a convenient distraction.


This keep coming up.

But I am getting ahead of myself, who were Israel in the street protesting?

As for convenient, that is an odd way to phrase hundreds of rockets.
 
2012-11-15 07:57:59 PM  
Gleeman
Looks like the Israelis/Jews were first.

If that's the criteria, you can probably tell the class who first built Jerusalem.
 
2012-11-15 08:00:35 PM  
What did Israel ever give us? Natalie Portman (original name: Natalie Hershlag)
 
2012-11-15 08:05:56 PM  

liam76: ACallForPeace: Also, note that Israelis were starting to take to the streets and focus on their real enemies. But now we have a convenient distraction.

This keep coming up.

But I am getting ahead of myself, who were Israel in the street protesting?


As for convenient, that is an odd way to phrase hundreds of rockets.


Nevermind, looked it. First I had heard of it (if you were talking about 2011 protests) but it seems they have been losing steam before this started (not that they would have had no effect on elections).
 
2012-11-15 08:11:28 PM  

SithLord: Bush kept things stable, albeit through means not entirely supported here at home. He only had two countries that erupted but kept Israel on a short leash from going all Armageddony. Under Obama's watch we lost stability in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and Syria. Obama has also flubbed his nose at Israel. Not that I give one lick for Israel, but even as an ally, you don't turn your back on them. The countries that lost stability are some of Israel's most feared neighbors and the new regimes are held in lockstep with some of Israel's enemies.

Israel doesn't really have a choice but to defend. I've always supported Israel's use of war on its enemies. So long as Israel can mind their own without us getting involved.


You're farking retarded.
You would rather have dictators ruling over people than democratic countries?
And Obama is still sucking Israel's dick, he's just using a little less tongue.
But it's important we choose one civilian-massacring far right religious fundamentalist-led country over the other right?
 
2012-11-15 08:25:46 PM  

Gwendolyn: Lunaville: Gwendolyn: Not if they have to take it from someone else.

But they didn't. The land Israel was granted was taken by the British. It was ceded to Israel so that Britain and the USA could avoid taking in so many Jewish refugees.

I feel both sides deserve both blame and sympathy. Neither state has exactly conducted itself according to Ghandian principles. Both populations were put between a rock and hard place by more powerful forces. I don't think the average person wants war. I have come to suspect that, though an international issue, war and this war in particular, is still another issue that can be accurately laid at the feet of the one percent. There are rare individuals who benefit and are enriched by these conflicts while the common people suffer.

I know there was like 10 people being quoted in that post, but I didn't say that part.


I'm sorry. I hadn't noticed that the quote was misattributed
 
2012-11-15 08:33:30 PM  

ElLoco: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: JPSimonetti: Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

Can you imagine how the US would respond if, say, Mexico did this to Texas?

Can you imagine what Mexico would do if the US funded religious wackjobs to build compounds within Mexican borders, and violently defended them?

Mexico already fires rockets into Texas. They're full of meth or heroin and have a small cavity in the nose for a parachute.


If they can compete with the meth coming out of rural Georgia, more power to them.
 
2012-11-15 08:33:49 PM  
No one likes watching a stronger nation beat up a weaker nation, even if that weaker nation begged for the beating like we have all witnessed here.


That said, what's the solution? Both sides hate each other because they each made up gods to worship and both of these gods seem to have violent streaks attributed to them by the people who made up these gods.

Rid the world of this superstitious religion crap and these two sides can make peace.
 
2012-11-15 08:35:22 PM  

ACallForPeace: Also, note that Israelis were starting to take to the streets and focus on their real enemies. But now we have a convenient distraction.



Mob control at its best.
 
2012-11-15 08:37:51 PM  

Amos Quito: Spot on.


piss off, coont.

I want Israel to stop killing arabs. you just want arabs to kill more Israelis.
 
2012-11-15 08:38:34 PM  

Lunaville: Gwendolyn: Not if they have to take it from someone else.

But they didn't. The land Israel was granted was taken by the British. It was ceded to Israel so that Britain and the USA could avoid taking in so many Jewish refugees.



There were Jewish refugees in 1917?
 
2012-11-15 08:46:13 PM  

Lehk: Amos Quito: Spot on.

piss off, coont.

I want Israel to stop killing arabs. you just want arabs to kill more Israelis.



Either I misunderstood your original post, or you have me confused with someone else.

I don't want to see anyone killing anybody, but it irks me to see Israel whining they they have to "defend themselves" while these "defenses" inevitably wind up being vengeance massacres that kill 10/1.

And how is it that you're able to capitalize "Israelis" but unable to capitalize "Arabs", coont?
 
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