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2012-11-15 01:47:03 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: queezyweezel: Uncle Tractor: BgJonson79: Except there already is a Palestinian state, and there was one at the time, too. Google the history of the Kingdom of Jordan.

Jordan is Jordan, not Palestine. Anyway, what good is Jordan for the palestinians who live west of the Jordan?

He has a kickass basketball court next to his pool and throws great parties?

Free Fruit of the Loom for everyone?



What about free Hitler mustaches?

i256.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 01:47:09 PM  

Weaver95: so what happens if Israeli troops actually go into Gaza?


Tatsuma does his best Meg Ryan/When Harry Met Sally impression.
 
2012-11-15 01:47:23 PM  

mootmah: Captain Steroid: CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! :-(

Bring the ponies Captain.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 01:48:04 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: fatcurlytoes: I love how nobody gives the faintest shadow of a shiat about Arabs (including the Palestinians in Syrian camps getting used as human shields) until Israel raises a hand to defend itself and all of a sudden they're the bad guys and everyone gets excited.

What do you think the USA would do if Mexico shelled San Diego for a weekend? Glass parking lot doesn't begin to cover it. I hope Israel's leadership has the stones to get this done.

Do you routinely walk into rooms and start talking without listening to what anyone has said?

Cause you just did that.

15 people beat you to that analogy.


Not routinely, no, but I've read enough Jew-hating fark threads to not really want to wade through this one. Congrats to the sane 15 commenters, well done.
 
2012-11-15 01:48:10 PM  
Send in TATS:
t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-15 01:48:41 PM  

BgJonson79: Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Mad_Radhu: Rev. Skarekroe: Vodka Zombie: I want to care, but I just seem to have reached a saturation with that part of the world. They've been killing each other for so long, and nothing is going to change that.

Yep.
I wish we could just ignore everything from the Mediterranean to India. "You guys do whatever you want. Just leave everyone else on Earth out of it."

So much this. One reason I'm a huge fan of alternative energy is that I can't wait for the day when we can sever ties to the region on both the Arab and Israeli sides of the conflict and just let them kill each other in peace until they eventually grow up and join the rest of the civilized world. There's nothing good that can ever come of getting ourselves involved in this mess, but we have too many links to the Israelis and the Saudis to be able to ignore the conflict the way we really need to.

Shouldn't the Jews be able to have their own state?

No.

¿Por que no?


No state has any particular right to exist, they either do or they don't according to the actions of their supporters and detractors.
 
2012-11-15 01:49:28 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: coco ebert: Brontes: coco ebert: BgJonson79: JusticeandIndependence: BgJonson79: Shouldn't the Jews be able to have their own state?

Why?

Because, shouldn't every ethnic group get to have one?

Mos def. Just as the Kurds, Basques, Catalans, Quebecois (sp?), Tamils, and Texans.

Armenians?

*quizzical dog look* They have their own state.

Nothing personal, but that one was appropriately under the belt.


I thought that too, but I don't think poster read my profile.
 
2012-11-15 01:49:50 PM  

Porous Horace: This is a plan to destroy Israel in an attack from all sides.
The Palestinians start cooking things up and Israel takes the gloves off.
Everyone to the north of Israel (From Hezbollah to everone who's in Syria (gov't, rebels, al-queda, others)) stops fighting each other and turns their anger south. Then the slightly shaky Egypt joins in, pushed by internal and pulled by external forces, in an all-out attempt at a final solution of wiping Israel off the map.


LOL
Except that Israel has proven that they can defend themselves from a multi-front war.
And they would use nukes if need be.
And the NEXT time this happens, they will keep the large swaths of land as a DMZ and not trade it back for a peace treaty.

Imagine the whole of the Sinai littered with cluster bombs, land mines and other fun death traps.
 
2012-11-15 01:49:55 PM  
My ancestors, over two billion years ago, when they were Eukaryote, inhibited that area.. SO ITS TIME TO MOVE OUT MUSLIMS AND JEWS.
 
2012-11-15 01:50:31 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Gleeman: namatad: (why do people pick a certain year and the complain when others dont like what year they pick?)

Pick a year, any year:

1. Israel Rule (Biblical period) 1350 BC to 586 BC
2. Babylonian Conquest 587 BC to 538 BC
3. Israel Autonomy (under Persian & Greco-Assyrian sovereignty) 538 BC to 168 BC
4. Revolt of the Maccabees 168 BC to 143 BC
5. Rule of the Hashmoneans & their successors 143 BC to 70 AD
6. Jewish Autonomy (under Roman & Byzantine sovereignty) 70 AD to 637 AD
7. Rule of Muslem Caliphs
Mecca 637 AD to 661 AD
Umayyides 661 AD to 750 AD
Abbaaside 750 AD to 870 AD
Fatimides 969 AD to 1071 AD 637 AD to 1072 AD
8. Seljukes Rule 1072 AD to 1096 AD
9. Crusaders Ayyubids (in parts only) 1175 AD to 1291 AD 1099 AD to 1291 AD
10. Mamelukes Rule 1291 AD to 1516 AD
11. Ottomans (Turks) 1516 AD to 1918 AD
12. British Mandate 1918 AD to 1948 AD
13. Israel rule under democracy 1948 AD --- . 

Looks like the Israelis/Jews were first.

As we all know, the planet didn't exist prior to 1350 BC. Or, more realistically, such arguments suck.


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True. I'm usually in the 'Can't we all just get along' camp, but at this point there is so much bad blood on both sides it's probably best to have the rest of the world turn their backs for 7 days and see who's left standing in the rubble.
 
2012-11-15 01:51:48 PM  
Oh, so Tats slithered out from the hole in the wall, huh?

Here you go, chucklefark. Here's the holy war you've been wanting for so long. Choke on it; it's only real people, after all.
 
2012-11-15 01:52:18 PM  

Gleeman: rue. I'm usually in the 'Can't we all just get along' camp, but at this point there is so much bad blood on both sides it's probably best to have the rest of the world turn their backs for 7 days and see who's left standing in the rubble


That already happened in 1967.
*snicker*
 
2012-11-15 01:52:27 PM  

ranold: My ancestors, over two billion years ago, when they were Eukaryote, inhibited that area.. SO ITS TIME TO MOVE OUT MUSLIMS AND JEWS.



So, are you a fan of first in time or finders keepers?  Right now, both favor the Jews.
 
2012-11-15 01:52:27 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: SithLord: chiefsfaninkc: Good thing that Obama "The Sort of a God" was reelected otherwise the middle east could turn into a powder keg.

It looks like the entire Mideast has erupted into a shiatstorm since Obama took office.

But hey, we got universal healthcare.

[t3.gstatic.com image 199x253]

Sooooooo.... By your logic, 9/11 was due to what?


Bush kept things stable, albeit through means not entirely supported here at home. He only had two countries that erupted but kept Israel on a short leash from going all Armageddony. Under Obama's watch we lost stability in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and Syria. Obama has also flubbed his nose at Israel. Not that I give one lick for Israel, but even as an ally, you don't turn your back on them. The countries that lost stability are some of Israel's most feared neighbors and the new regimes are held in lockstep with some of Israel's enemies.

Israel doesn't really have a choice but to defend. I've always supported Israel's use of war on its enemies. So long as Israel can mind their own without us getting involved.
 
2012-11-15 01:53:33 PM  

Raharu: Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

That is what? Like, 38%... I guess its better then nothing.


It's a method to preserve ammunition.

It tracks the rockets in flight and only intercepts those that it thinks will be landing in populated areas. IIRC each battery only has something like 20 interceptors before it has to reload.
 
2012-11-15 01:53:38 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Mad_Radhu: Rev. Skarekroe: Vodka Zombie: I want to care, but I just seem to have reached a saturation with that part of the world. They've been killing each other for so long, and nothing is going to change that.

Yep.
I wish we could just ignore everything from the Mediterranean to India. "You guys do whatever you want. Just leave everyone else on Earth out of it."

So much this. One reason I'm a huge fan of alternative energy is that I can't wait for the day when we can sever ties to the region on both the Arab and Israeli sides of the conflict and just let them kill each other in peace until they eventually grow up and join the rest of the civilized world. There's nothing good that can ever come of getting ourselves involved in this mess, but we have too many links to the Israelis and the Saudis to be able to ignore the conflict the way we really need to.

Shouldn't the Jews be able to have their own state?

No.

¿Por que no?

No state has any particular right to exist, they either do or they don't according to the actions of their supporters and detractors.


How does that NOT result in genocide?
 
2012-11-15 01:53:58 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Mad_Radhu: Rev. Skarekroe: Vodka Zombie: I want to care, but I just seem to have reached a saturation with that part of the world. They've been killing each other for so long, and nothing is going to change that.

Yep.
I wish we could just ignore everything from the Mediterranean to India. "You guys do whatever you want. Just leave everyone else on Earth out of it."

So much this. One reason I'm a huge fan of alternative energy is that I can't wait for the day when we can sever ties to the region on both the Arab and Israeli sides of the conflict and just let them kill each other in peace until they eventually grow up and join the rest of the civilized world. There's nothing good that can ever come of getting ourselves involved in this mess, but we have too many links to the Israelis and the Saudis to be able to ignore the conflict the way we really need to.

Shouldn't the Jews be able to have their own state?

No.

¿Por que no?

No state has any particular right to exist, they either do or they don't according to the actions of their supporters and detractors.


Whether they 'should' or not isn't important. They do. I think Romney knows, given by the fact that he wanted to 'kick the can down the road, so to speak', as do others, that this whole thing is the only way to keep the Middle East from going apeshiat on Israel- and as such nobody is going to fix it. I mean, the US loves Israel. And Saudi Arabia. The Saudi people do not like Israel. The leaders love the US, and probably don't really care about Israel. but the people do. I think this is the region's little outlet valve to vent frustration on each other.

If I am wrong, please educate me. But it seems to me that this conflict could be over pretty damn quickly if the US really wanted it, if Israel really wanted, if Saudi Arabia (and other nations in the region) really wanted it. Maybe the US and Israel hate Iran because it is the only nation that 'got it' and decided they weren't going to support it.
 
2012-11-15 01:54:16 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: No state has any particular right to exist, they either do or they don't according to the actions of their supporters and detractors.


Existence is.
The "right" is irrelevant.

Israel exists. End of story.
It is the same story for every other country in the world.
The US exists. Did it have the right to kill all the natives and take all the land?
Who cares, it happened, it is over, and millions of people live here now bathing in the spoils of those wars.

WARS are all about land grabs. (yes, I know, there are other kinds of wars, but for this argument, we are talking about the traditional wars used to build countries)

HELL, the US exists because we illegally went to war with england and stole their rightful land.
Every side in a war justifies their actions. Some of those justifications are less lame than others.
 
2012-11-15 01:54:29 PM  

BgJonson79: That's what I mean about the history of it all. Waaaayyyy back in college I took a course on the Arab-Israeli conflict and learned a ton about the history of it all. Jordan and Palestine were one big group of people and one sorta province of the Ottoman Empire, until they lost WWI and the British got the Mandate of Palestine and they broke it up into differing states. Jordan was called Trans-jordan, IE, the other side of the Jordan (al-Urdun) River. Same ethnic group, other side of the river.


You missed my point. The palestinians who lived west of the Jordan ... lived west of the Jordan. Creating a palestinian homeland somewhere else would do them no good. Some people don't mind picking up and moving at the drop of a hat (or at the whim of some government), but if your family has lived in the place for centuries, you might not be so keen on leaving. Particularly when it's somebody else telling to move.
 
2012-11-15 01:55:06 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: mootmah: Captain Steroid: CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! :-(

Bring the ponies Captain.

Yes. I DEMAND Israel/Hamas related Pony captures/memes.

DEMAND.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 01:57:04 PM  

I_C_Weener: ranold: My ancestors, over two billion years ago, when they were Eukaryote, inhibited that area.. SO ITS TIME TO MOVE OUT MUSLIMS AND JEWS.


So, are you a fan of first in time or finders keepers?  Right now, both favor the Jews.


HEY, he did go back 2 billion years ... :D
And yah, the only other solution "share and share alike" is a foreign concept to both sides in this war.
Is peace really a christian concept?
Sure, christian have fought a bazillion wars, but we do seem to have slightly longer lasting peace treaties.
 
2012-11-15 01:57:13 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Ok, so Hamas fired eleventy billion rockets at Israel.

I'm curious about the rockets.

We know the Gaza Strip isn't big. 25 miles long, 6 miles wide, borders the Mediterrenean on the northwest, Israel on the northeast, southeast and shares a small border with Egypt on the southwest.

What sort of rockets are they using?

The Qassam rocket.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x197]

Their range?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 351x585]

Their cost? $800 per rocket (according to wiki).

These things suck. I mean they fail all the time, apparently. And from this image, they look like metal bottle rockets.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 666x599]

Hamas should spend more time building infrastructure with that money. At the same time, Isreal relies on scaring the absolute sh*t out of Americans with the 'oh they are launching a jillion rockets at us' as if they were ICBMs or Patriot missiles.


So you would be fine if someone would start shooting at you with a.22 as long as they dont actually hit you... about 50 times a day... Wow, you are retarded.
 
2012-11-15 02:00:28 PM  

namatad: Porous Horace: This is a plan to destroy Israel in an attack from all sides.
The Palestinians start cooking things up and Israel takes the gloves off.
Everyone to the north of Israel (From Hezbollah to everone who's in Syria (gov't, rebels, al-queda, others)) stops fighting each other and turns their anger south. Then the slightly shaky Egypt joins in, pushed by internal and pulled by external forces, in an all-out attempt at a final solution of wiping Israel off the map.

LOL
Except that Israel has proven that they can defend themselves from a multi-front war.
And they would use nukes if need be.



Because dropping a nuke on a 25 mile strip of land in your own country is a great idea.
I guess as long as the wind is blowing out they should be fine.
 
2012-11-15 02:01:15 PM  

GAT_00: pag1107: Are Tats and GAT gonna have fisticuffs?

/grabs popcorn
//waits

He won't talk to me, so no.



Tats put me on "ignore" in the very first thread we both posted in.

If ya can't beat 'em, ignore 'em.

Right tats?
 
2012-11-15 02:02:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: evoke: GAT_00: topcon: Israel should just totally ignore this and not fight back. 

Totally.

Israel brought the rockets on themselves by telling Palestinians over and over again that they will not negotiate in good faith or make any meaningful concession. They forced a war, because they wanted a war. Much easier to justify wholesale acquisition of land by war than by moving settlers illegally on it.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. They don't want it back. What they want is the terrorists to stop shooting missles at their people in the south. Sounds reasonable to me.

Perhaps they should stop building settlements on land that isn't theirs, then?


None of it was theirs.
 
2012-11-15 02:02:02 PM  

Joe Blowme: Nadie_AZ: Ok, so Hamas fired eleventy billion rockets at Israel.

I'm curious about the rockets.

We know the Gaza Strip isn't big. 25 miles long, 6 miles wide, borders the Mediterrenean on the northwest, Israel on the northeast, southeast and shares a small border with Egypt on the southwest.

What sort of rockets are they using?

The Qassam rocket.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x197]

Their range?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 351x585]

Their cost? $800 per rocket (according to wiki).

These things suck. I mean they fail all the time, apparently. And from this image, they look like metal bottle rockets.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 666x599]

Hamas should spend more time building infrastructure with that money. At the same time, Isreal relies on scaring the absolute sh*t out of Americans with the 'oh they are launching a jillion rockets at us' as if they were ICBMs or Patriot missiles.

So you would be fine if someone would start shooting at you with a.22 as long as they dont actually hit you... about 50 times a day... Wow, you are retarded.


My point isn't to say that they should or shouldn't defend themselves. Of course you defend yourself. I completely see the political advantage Israel has in claiming any damn bottle rocket is a weapon being launched at them is, in fact, a massive barrage of missiles.

And that is it. Interesting to see how small that area of the world is and how big it is presented 'over here'.
 
2012-11-15 02:02:35 PM  
just to clear a few things up:

Gaza = city
Gaza Strip = Israeli occupied Palestine, run by Hamas

Illegal Israeli settlements are in the West Bank

Gaza Strip /= West Bank
West Bank = Israeli occupied Palestine, run by the PA

Only port of entry for goods into the Gaza Strip is Kerem Shalom Crossing from Egypt (and some illegal tunnels)

Hamas = Dicks
Israelis = Dicks
 
2012-11-15 02:03:00 PM  

BgJonson79: Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Holocaust Agnostic: BgJonson79: Mad_Radhu: Rev. Skarekroe: Vodka Zombie: I want to care, but I just seem to have reached a saturation with that part of the world. They've been killing each other for so long, and nothing is going to change that.

Yep.
I wish we could just ignore everything from the Mediterranean to India. "You guys do whatever you want. Just leave everyone else on Earth out of it."

So much this. One reason I'm a huge fan of alternative energy is that I can't wait for the day when we can sever ties to the region on both the Arab and Israeli sides of the conflict and just let them kill each other in peace until they eventually grow up and join the rest of the civilized world. There's nothing good that can ever come of getting ourselves involved in this mess, but we have too many links to the Israelis and the Saudis to be able to ignore the conflict the way we really need to.

Shouldn't the Jews be able to have their own state?

No.

¿Por que no?

No state has any particular right to exist, they either do or they don't according to the actions of their supporters and detractors.

How does that NOT result in genocide?


Lowat? Genocides and atrocities have happened all throughout history both to destroy and create states. No idea what that has to do with answering the question of wether a state has a right to exist or not one way or the other.
 
2012-11-15 02:03:09 PM  
goddamnit do bronies hafta threadshiat on everything? jesus farking h christ
 
2012-11-15 02:03:15 PM  

Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.


www.german-helmets.com


What Israel's "Iron Dome" might look like.
 
2012-11-15 02:03:16 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Sultan Of Herf: JPSimonetti: Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

Can you imagine how the US would respond if, say, Mexico did this to Texas? Hell, just 1 rocket ... that maybe broke some cattle rancher's arm and pre-cooked a few of his bovine friends. Yet alone 169 impacting USA soil. And yet people still balk at Israel's relatively subdued retaliation as being over the top? Amazing. If that happened here, the end result would probably be a few thousand square miles of new USA soil before it was all over. "Even Newer Mexico", the 51st state.

Nah, not enough thinly veiled political motivations against Mexico. They have no oil. Theres no legacy to finish daddy war, nothing that motivates modern America.

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Mexico makes it the sixth largest producer of oil in the world and the tenth largest in terms of net export as of 2007. It is the second largest oil producer in the Western Hemisphere behind only the United States and just ahead of Canada.


In reality the best analogy would have Mexico not only throwing rockets at us, but also referring to San Antonio as an 'occupied city' and all of Texas rightfully Mexican land. We would go in with aircraft and remove their rocket launchers. If they insisted on continuing, we'd take the land the rocket launchers were set up on...and so on.

Liberals looking at this as a Conservative vs. Liberal thing really need to take off their American politics and hang it on a peg by the door. Common sense would suggest that the inhabitants of Samaria and Gaza would be far better off as part of Israel, working toward an integral part of society and eventually the government and that would give them a true voice with regard to who owns what land and such. Instead, we have what we have here. Anyone expecting a happy ending needs to go down the hall to the other cinema.
 
2012-11-15 02:03:45 PM  
I know you're pissed, Palestinians, and I somewhat sympathize, but if you fark with Israel, they will tear you a new one.
 
2012-11-15 02:03:47 PM  
I"m off to lunch. Will you please try not to blow up the world before I get back. I'd like to die with a full belly
 
2012-11-15 02:04:14 PM  

Amos Quito: If ya can't beat 'em, ignore 'em. Right tats?


You were cutting into his narrative, that's all. It's not like he's so craven, right?
 
2012-11-15 02:04:25 PM  

The_Sponge: Jim from Saint Paul: queezyweezel: Uncle Tractor: BgJonson79: Except there already is a Palestinian state, and there was one at the time, too. Google the history of the Kingdom of Jordan.

Jordan is Jordan, not Palestine. Anyway, what good is Jordan for the palestinians who live west of the Jordan?

He has a kickass basketball court next to his pool and throws great parties?

Free Fruit of the Loom for everyone?


What about free Hitler mustaches?

[i256.photobucket.com image 330x344]


img2.bdbphotos.com

Maybe they hear an incoming rocket?

cdn-www.cracked.com

Oh. Nevermind.

www.americanthinker.com

Also:

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2012-11-15 02:04:45 PM  

Lehk: With claims that Palestinian militants fired nearly 150 rockets on Thursday, killing three people, defence officials said Israel was prepared to launch a ground invasion into Gaza if necessary.


So far, at least 15 people, including Mr Jaabari, have been killed in more than 50 Israeli airstrikes - codenamed Operation Pillar Of Defence. Two young children were also among the dead.

Izzy has not reached their ordinary quota of 1 Israeli worth 10 'rabs one being a child yet, they will continue airstrikes until at least 1 more child and 14 adults are killed



Spot on.
 
2012-11-15 02:04:59 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Armageddon tired of this

/we've re-elected the anti-christ, let's get it over with


Yeah, but that was back in 1984
 
2012-11-15 02:05:34 PM  

Tatsuma: A rocket fell again in Bat Yam a few minutes ago again

Hopefully G-d will protect them


History has shown that when it comes to protection, God always sides with the Jews.

Pray on.
 
2012-11-15 02:05:41 PM  

JK47: I'm not even going to address the rest of your post since it's predicated on the false premise that Gaza is another country and not an occupied territory.


Occupied by whom? Just how many Israeli settlements to you think there are in the Gaza Strip? Or are you talking about the thousands of IDF troops that aren't in Gaza?
 
2012-11-15 02:06:31 PM  
Thank goodness we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner in the Oval Office.

Obama will step in and take care of everything!!!
 
2012-11-15 02:07:33 PM  

Tommyknocker2121: Raharu: Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

That is what? Like, 38%... I guess its better then nothing.

It's a method to preserve ammunition.

It tracks the rockets in flight and only intercepts those that it thinks will be landing in populated areas. IIRC each battery only has something like 20 interceptors before it has to reload.


That's pretty neat!
 
2012-11-15 02:07:45 PM  

Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.


Was this before or after they killed the Hamas leader?
 
2012-11-15 02:07:52 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: evoke: Regardless, building houses people can live in is something benevolent. It's to improve peoples lives

How is bulldozing homes "benevolent"?


If it's not occupied by Jooz then they're just squatters on land granted by God to the Jooz. Didn't you know... they're the Chosen People. The rest of us are just animals. They even have a word in their language just for the rest of us unwashed masses. No... that's not culturally imbedded bigotry at all.
 
2012-11-15 02:08:57 PM  

netcentric: Iron dome on shoots at ones that are a direct threat to civilians. It does not target all incoming rockets/mortars/missiles.


So it's a fire control system for Hamas...
 
2012-11-15 02:09:38 PM  

SithLord: Ego edo infantia cattus: SithLord: chiefsfaninkc: Good thing that Obama "The Sort of a God" was reelected otherwise the middle east could turn into a powder keg.

It looks like the entire Mideast has erupted into a shiatstorm since Obama took office.

But hey, we got universal healthcare.

[t3.gstatic.com image 199x253]

Sooooooo.... By your logic, 9/11 was due to what?

Bush kept things stable, albeit through means not entirely supported here at home. He only had two countries that erupted but kept Israel on a short leash from going all Armageddony. Under Obama's watch we lost stability in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and Syria. Obama has also flubbed his nose at Israel. Not that I give one lick for Israel, but even as an ally, you don't turn your back on them. The countries that lost stability are some of Israel's most feared neighbors and the new regimes are held in lockstep with some of Israel's enemies.

Israel doesn't really have a choice but to defend. I've always supported Israel's use of war on its enemies. So long as Israel can mind their own without us getting involved.


Who was President for most of the Second Intifada?

Who was President when the IDF had their last not so excellent Lebanese adventure?
 
2012-11-15 02:10:11 PM  
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.
 
2012-11-15 02:10:27 PM  
imageshack.us


Leeds: Thank goodness we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner in the Oval Office.

Obama will step in and take care of everything!!!


Butt Mad Partisan Shill / Hack like typing detected!

Also why would The President get involved? Israel knows what its doing and has this well in hand.
 
2012-11-15 02:10:49 PM  
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2012-11-15 02:11:47 PM  
i1231.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 02:12:13 PM  

Amos Quito: Tatsuma: Since Wednesday morning, 274 rockets were fired and 105 intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

[www.german-helmets.com image 330x241]


What Israel's "Iron Dome" might look like.


You'd rather it be like this, right?

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