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(USA Today)   BP to pay nearly $5 billion in fines, or about 16 days worth of profits   (usatoday.com) divider line 64
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2012-11-15 02:44:44 PM
Green companies lose money or go bankrupt.

I also never said I invested in BP, only that I am an investor.

I can understand the kneejerk reaction some people have because apparently comprehending english is a lost art. I am currently investing in the mortgage space.

If you want an interesting read about green companies, read Jim Cramer's appraisal. He's a big time environmentalist and a known investor. He says stay away from the green space because there's nothing but pain there. Paraphrasing: if you feel you want to do something green, invest, make money, then give it to green causes. You can't make money as an investor in the green space. That's essentially what he says.

If you want to take your hard earned money and put it into green invesments, I suggest you first learn to read a balance statement, income statement and cashflow statement. I deal only in facts, not bias or hope, when investing.

Regards,
 
2012-11-15 02:45:45 PM

Avonmore: As someone currently sitting in a BP office I'm getting a kick, etc.
/no I don't work for them


But you're going to steal something on the way out, right? Do it for the dead oil workers.

I discovered recently that BP is behind all the remediation work going on here. The whole town is a farking Superfund site, I am not exaggerating. They bought out Arco, (the company that destroyed the whole area with mining starting over 100 years ago and then went bankrupt), and so they got stuck with the clean-up bill when the endless court cases were over. Can't remember what the final bill was, but it's in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

So all those nice new walking trails--miles and miles of them--the remediation of the old mine sites, and even the sod put in my backyard before I moved here, were paid for by BP. Thanks, you idiots!
 
2012-11-15 02:51:39 PM

cryinoutloud: Avonmore: As someone currently sitting in a BP office I'm getting a kick, etc.
/no I don't work for them

But you're going to steal something on the way out, right? Do it for the dead oil workers.

I discovered recently that BP is behind all the remediation work going on here. The whole town is a farking Superfund site, I am not exaggerating. They bought out Arco, (the company that destroyed the whole area with mining starting over 100 years ago and then went bankrupt), and so they got stuck with the clean-up bill when the endless court cases were over. Can't remember what the final bill was, but it's in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

So all those nice new walking trails--miles and miles of them--the remediation of the old mine sites, and even the sod put in my backyard before I moved here, were paid for by BP. Thanks, you idiots!


I'd have someone come check your soil/sod for contamination. Cutting corners on clean-up is the M.O. of every big business, just ask SheaKub the master investor.
 
2012-11-15 02:53:54 PM

cryinoutloud:
But you're going to steal something on the way out, right? Do it for the dead oil workers.


In the interest of my own job security I won't provide many details of where I am, but I can say this; BP clearly got the message about safety, but they choose to apply it in massively stupid ways.

There are signs by the stairwells telling people they are required to use the handrails and they shouldn't talk on their phones while they use them, they provided a map marking three different contingency exits, and they provided detailed instructions on how to use my lanyard, so I don't accidentally choke myself.
 
2012-11-15 03:04:16 PM

Avonmore: cryinoutloud:
But you're going to steal something on the way out, right? Do it for the dead oil workers.


In the interest of my own job security I won't provide many details of where I am, but I can say this; BP clearly got the message about safety, but they choose to apply it in massively stupid ways.

There are signs by the stairwells telling people they are required to use the handrails and they shouldn't talk on their phones while they use them, they provided a map marking three different contingency exits, and they provided detailed instructions on how to use my lanyard, so I don't accidentally choke myself.


This is the same environment that has lead to ridiculous overlabeling of retail products.

You know things like fireplace logs that say "Caution Flammable" or on drain cleaner that says "not for human consumption"
 
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2012-11-15 03:09:12 PM
This is the same environment that has lead to ridiculous overlabeling of retail products.

A problem on the oil rig was an excess of alarms, so when the one went off that meant "I'm going to explode in a minute" nobody cared.
 
2012-11-15 03:32:12 PM

Avonmore: As someone currently sitting in a BP office I'm getting a kick, etc.


/no I don't work for them


Please leave them an "Upper Decker" for me.
 
2012-11-15 03:44:43 PM

Avonmore: cryinoutloud:
But you're going to steal something on the way out, right? Do it for the dead oil workers.


In the interest of my own job security I won't provide many details of where I am, but I can say this; BP clearly got the message about safety, but they choose to apply it in massively stupid ways.

There are signs by the stairwells telling people they are required to use the handrails and they shouldn't talk on their phones while they use them, they provided a map marking three different contingency exits, and they provided detailed instructions on how to use my lanyard, so I don't accidentally choke myself.


BP has been like that for years. It was an initiative by former CEO Browne/
 
2012-11-15 07:24:13 PM

SquiggsIN: SnyderCat: I'm waitin' for $7 a gallon gas.

Gas is about $8.12 / gallon in the UK based on exchange rates. If Americans could do the math themselves, there'd be a lot less rage in regard to fuel prices.


Serious question here, but isn't the difference mostly taxes, and don't Brits get more services in exchange for paying more at the pump?
 
2012-11-16 12:07:50 PM

flynn80: Avonmore: As someone currently sitting in a BP office I'm getting a kick, etc.


/no I don't work for them

Please leave them an "Upper Decker" for me.


That would be funny if people who had some reason to deal with BP would take dumps in stairwells and whatnot. Unfortunatly that only hurts the cleaning stafff, or when they refuse to do that, the regular employees.

Someone where I work does disgusting stuff to the bathroom (bugers on the stall wall, piss on the floor, splatter poop all over the seat rim). We are a professional building, so I have to assume this person has some educations, but who exactly does he think he's sticking it to when he does this. The only logical explanation is he has contempt for us, his coworkers, yet he has to return to these same stalls every day.
 
2012-11-16 06:11:40 PM

SquiggsIN: SnyderCat: I'm waitin' for $7 a gallon gas.

Gas is about $8.12 / gallon in the UK based on exchange rates. If Americans could do the math themselves, there'd be a lot less rage in regard to fuel prices.


I can't wait. We will be in the UK in just about a month.

That trip really is going to be a small fortune....
 
2012-11-16 06:12:47 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: SquiggsIN: SnyderCat: I'm waitin' for $7 a gallon gas.

Gas is about $8.12 / gallon in the UK based on exchange rates. If Americans could do the math themselves, there'd be a lot less rage in regard to fuel prices.

Serious question here, but isn't the difference mostly taxes, and don't Brits get more services in exchange for paying more at the pump?


Honestly, I'm not sure. I remember when I was young, having to pump my own gas over in Philly, which I was absolutely fine with. I'm not sure why people can't just pimp there own gas and pay less for it in the long run.
 
2012-11-16 07:03:16 PM

SnyderCat: Mitch Taylor's Bro: SquiggsIN: SnyderCat: I'm waitin' for $7 a gallon gas.

Gas is about $8.12 / gallon in the UK based on exchange rates. If Americans could do the math themselves, there'd be a lot less rage in regard to fuel prices.

Serious question here, but isn't the difference mostly taxes, and don't Brits get more services in exchange for paying more at the pump?

Honestly, I'm not sure. I remember when I was young, having to pump my own gas over in Philly, which I was absolutely fine with. I'm not sure why people can't just pimp there own gas and pay less for it in the long run.


The services I'm talking about come from the government in the form of single-payer healthcare insurance and other benefits, not the gas station attendant who pumps your gas for you when you pay "full service" prices.
 
2012-11-16 07:23:46 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: SnyderCat: Mitch Taylor's Bro: SquiggsIN: SnyderCat: I'm waitin' for $7 a gallon gas.

Gas is about $8.12 / gallon in the UK based on exchange rates. If Americans could do the math themselves, there'd be a lot less rage in regard to fuel prices.

Serious question here, but isn't the difference mostly taxes, and don't Brits get more services in exchange for paying more at the pump?

Honestly, I'm not sure. I remember when I was young, having to pump my own gas over in Philly, which I was absolutely fine with. I'm not sure why people can't just pimp there own gas and pay less for it in the long run.

The services I'm talking about come from the government in the form of single-payer healthcare insurance and other benefits, not the gas station attendant who pumps your gas for you when you pay "full service" prices.


Hmm....when I think of full service, I'm not really thinking of gas and healthcare and such....
 
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