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(Reason Magazine)   McCain responds to Obama on Benghazi: You're either incompetent or corrupt, why not both?   (reason.com) divider line 224
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2012-11-15 09:59:07 AM
He said while completely skipping out on a secure briefing about Benghazi
 
2012-11-15 10:01:27 AM
John McCain's dismantling his legacy.
 
2012-11-15 10:02:25 AM
If anyone knows incompetence, it is John McCain.
 
2012-11-15 10:03:24 AM
Are we really going to green one of these every half-hour?
 
2012-11-15 10:03:32 AM
Could someone put McCains head over Milhouse's?
 
2012-11-15 10:04:07 AM
i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 10:05:02 AM
McCain is really getting annoying lately.
 
2012-11-15 10:12:32 AM
McCain had time to hold a presser to slam the President on the issue, but no time to attend the classified briefing on it.

It's almost as if he's more concerned with the politics of it rather than the policy.
 
2012-11-15 10:12:52 AM
The President fed the troll and kept the story alive.

Press conference tough guy routine backfires when the other side has nothing to lose.

What did you expect from an angry old white guy who has nothing better to do?
 
2012-11-15 10:20:01 AM
John McCain is a colossal partisan douchebag.

i236.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 10:21:48 AM

bradkanus: The President fed the troll and kept the story alive.

Press conference tough guy routine backfires when the other side has nothing to lose.

What did you expect from an angry old white guy who has nothing better to do?


New development: the House of Representatives is nothing
 
2012-11-15 10:23:11 AM

bradkanus: The President fed the troll and kept the story alive.


He was asked about it. If he had ignored or deflected the question I'm sure you'd be the first one in here commending him for doing so.
 
2012-11-15 10:28:07 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: The President fed the troll and kept the story alive.

He was asked about it. If he had ignored or deflected the question I'm sure you'd be the first one in here commending him for doing so.


Uh... he deflected several questions before that one and several after. He was doing great before and after that outburst.

I'm no McCain fan here - he's done more to screw over my party than the members of the other party have over the years. President shouldn't even acknowledge this grandstanding from a Senator trying to grasp onto some little shred of pertinence he already lost a long time ago.
 
2012-11-15 10:29:40 AM
Someone needs to just hold up large cardboard cutouts of Sarah Palin whenever he speaks in public
 
2012-11-15 10:32:07 AM

bradkanus: President shouldn't even acknowledge this grandstanding from a Senator trying to grasp onto some little shred of pertinence he already lost a long time ago.


I say good on the President for sticking up for those in his administration, especially when they haven't done f*ck all wrong.
 
2012-11-15 10:34:19 AM
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What has two thumbs, no tact and would probably steal the shoes off a dead corpse on the road?
 
2012-11-15 10:35:43 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: President shouldn't even acknowledge this grandstanding from a Senator trying to grasp onto some little shred of pertinence he already lost a long time ago.

I say good on the President for sticking up for those in his administration, especially when they haven't done f*ck all wrong.


Well shouldn't Obama stick up for Rice? I mean, it was his idea to send her out to make misleading statements about the attack. He should have known that it would backfire at some point and the Republicans would make hay of it.

Bad that he had her say what she said.

Good that he's taking the fall now.

Bad that he acknowledged McCain's relevancy stunt.
 
2012-11-15 10:37:52 AM

bradkanus: Well shouldn't Obama stick up for Rice? I mean, it was his idea to send her out to make misleading statements about the attack.


What misleading statements?
 
2012-11-15 10:40:42 AM
AdamSerwer @AdamSerwer

Funny coincidence how Sotomayor and Rice, two women with impeccable academic credentials, get pilloried as "stupid" right out the gate.
 
2012-11-15 10:42:50 AM
Alright I am probably asking for a migraine with this but could someone who speaks derp please explain to me what exactly is the "scandal' of this? At worst it seems like there was an attack on our embassy that resulted in the death of 4 people including the ambassador and the administration may have downplayed the possibility of an Al Qaeda attack for at most 5 days while trying sort out exactly what happened and gave an inconsistent story. This is a BFD because?
 
2012-11-15 10:42:53 AM

DamnYankees: Funny coincidence how Sotomayor and Rice, two women with impeccable academic credentials, get pilloried as "stupid" right out the gate.


Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, Eric Holder, Shirley Sherrod <--Obama stafferstargeted by GOP. What do they have in common?

- Zerlina Maxwell (@ZerlinaMaxwell) November 14, 2012
 
2012-11-15 10:43:17 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: Well shouldn't Obama stick up for Rice? I mean, it was his idea to send her out to make misleading statements about the attack.

What misleading statements?


She refused to say that Obama planted the demolition charges that exploded the consulate.
 
2012-11-15 10:44:12 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: McCain had time to hold a presser to slam the President on the issue, but no time to attend the classified briefing on it.

It's almost as if he's more concerned with the politics of it rather than the policy.


Almost like!


bradkanus: Bad that he acknowledged McCain's relevancy stunt.


In the beltway media, pretty much the only place this sort of thing matters, McCain is considered to have been slapped down by the President in that conference, Rick James style.

McCain was once a great statesman, now... he's just the senile former POW who, for reasons that exceed mortal understanding, wants to start more wars.
 
2012-11-15 10:45:26 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: Well shouldn't Obama stick up for Rice? I mean, it was his idea to send her out to make misleading statements about the attack.

What misleading statements?


Rice said

"But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to - or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in - in the wake of the revolution in Libya are - are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there."


The administration knew they were coordinated attacks and had intel stating that there would be coordinated attacks on Sept 11.

I'm not trying to be an asshole here - I'm just letting you know that there was a smoke screen put up by the administration - nothing different than what previous administrations did. Although, it doesn't make it right because others did it first.
 
2012-11-15 10:49:38 AM
I want to know why people think the President should have been discussing operational intelligence in a press conference.

I mean seriously, even if he knew the names of the people who pulled the triggers and set the fires, why the HELL should he be doing anything but saying "we're working on it" in a press conference?
 
2012-11-15 10:53:04 AM

unlikely: I want to know why people think the President should have been discussing operational intelligence in a press conference.

I mean seriously, even if he knew the names of the people who pulled the triggers and set the fires, why the HELL should he be doing anything but saying "we're working on it" in a press conference?


I'm with you. What does anyone gain? However, he allowed this all to get out of control by trying to do damage control. What he should have said is "we don't know, we're figuring it out and we're going to get them when we fiind them." Not to prop Bush up here, but when he addressed those fire fighters at ground zero he was vague about who was going to get it, but clear that they were going to get it when it they found them. Better way of going about things.

Remember - Romney shoved his foot in his mouth almost instantaneously when this happened. Mistakes were made by all. However, they are only mistakes - not broken laws or anything of that nature. This is not an "impeachable offense" by any stretch of the immagination.
 
2012-11-15 10:54:56 AM

bradkanus: I'm just letting you know that there was a smoke screen put up by the administration


No, there wasn't. Rice told us what she knew when she knew it. She even admitted as such, "based on the information we have at present".

The transcripts of what she said are easily available, and by now it's plainly obvious that her comments were careful, considered, and accurately represented the collective assessment of American intelligence at the time she offered them. Link
 
2012-11-15 10:55:38 AM
oh look another thread where people try to rationally argue with anus
 
2012-11-15 10:56:40 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The transcripts of what she said are easily available, and by now it's plainly obvious that her comments were careful, considered, and accurately represented the collective assessment of American intelligence at the time she offered them. Link


BUT ZOMG SECRET PRISON IMPEACH HER
 
2012-11-15 10:57:44 AM

DamnYankees: Dusk-You-n-Me: The transcripts of what she said are easily available, and by now it's plainly obvious that her comments were careful, considered, and accurately represented the collective assessment of American intelligence at the time she offered them. Link

BUT ZOMG SECRET PRISON IMPEACH HER


OMG THEY CAN'T SEE THE FUTURE, SMOKESCREEN!
 
2012-11-15 11:02:52 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: I'm just letting you know that there was a smoke screen put up by the administration

No, there wasn't. Rice told us what she knew when she knew it. She even admitted as such, "based on the information we have at present".

The transcripts of what she said are easily available, and by now it's plainly obvious that her comments were careful, considered, and accurately represented the collective assessment of American intelligence at the time she offered them. Link


Hey, I'd love to believe that, but the truth is that they knew they were ripe for an organized attack. They watched the attack from a Drone... come on - I'm not trying to invent things here. Who knows what Rice knew and didn't know. The fact is - nine days before the attack the Administration had been warned they couldn't fend an organized attack - the ones they knew were being aimed a Western targets. Nobody communicating form Benghazi backed up Rice's story and now, neither does the White House.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/19/world/africa/benghazi-documents/index.h t ml
to quote -

"The previous weekly report from Benghazi also referred to the "security vacuum," a consistent theme in the cables. In August, Stevens sent a cable titled "The Guns of August: Security in Eastern Libya."

He said the "absence of significant deterrence has contributed to a security vacuum that is being exploited by independent actors. ... Islamic extremists are able to attack the Red Cross with impunity."

"What we have seen are not random crimes of opportunity but rather targeted and discriminate attacks."

His final comment in the two-page document was: "Attackers are unlikely to be deterred until authorities are at least as capable."
 
2012-11-15 11:05:13 AM
McCain seems to think that holding a press conference is more important than attending a briefing on Benghazi: Link
 
2012-11-15 11:06:14 AM

bradkanus: ? I mean, it was his idea to send her out to make misleading statements about the attack


Um, citation needed?
 
2012-11-15 11:06:45 AM

bradkanus: Who knows what Rice knew and didn't know.


Ah yes, who knows what who know what who knows? If you choose to ignore what Rice said then the severity of the circumstances surrounding the events are only limited by your imagination.
 
2012-11-15 11:07:07 AM

bradkanus: Hey, I'd love to believe that, but the truth is that they knew they were ripe for an organized attack.


Citation also needed here.
 
2012-11-15 11:08:18 AM
Start the impeachment or STFU
 
2012-11-15 11:10:25 AM
What's interesting here is, the blog posts at http://bradkanus.com are actually pretty reasonable.
 
2012-11-15 11:13:08 AM

make me some tea: McCain seems to think that holding a press conference is more important than attending a briefing on Benghazi: Link


Are you really surprised that a conservative would decide that rhetoric and gut feelings matter more than facts?
 
2012-11-15 11:14:05 AM

bradkanus: Hey, I'd love to believe that,


But you're too busy believing the reality you've created inside your own head.
 
2012-11-15 11:14:49 AM

Aarontology: make me some tea: McCain seems to think that holding a press conference is more important than attending a briefing on Benghazi: Link

Are you really surprised that a conservative would decide that rhetoric and gut feelings matter more than facts?


Nope, not at all. It reveals that he's mostly just grandstanding on this issue.
 
2012-11-15 11:21:39 AM

make me some tea: Aarontology: make me some tea: McCain seems to think that holding a press conference is more important than attending a briefing on Benghazi: Link

Are you really surprised that a conservative would decide that rhetoric and gut feelings matter more than facts?

Nope, not at all. It reveals that he's mostly just grandstanding on this issue.


A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
 
2012-11-15 11:22:24 AM

make me some tea: Aarontology: make me some tea: McCain seems to think that holding a press conference is more important than attending a briefing on Benghazi: Link

Are you really surprised that a conservative would decide that rhetoric and gut feelings matter more than facts?

Nope, not at all. It reveals that he's mostly just grandstanding on this issue.


Yep, pretty much.
 
2012-11-15 11:29:15 AM
Waitaminute - Rice lied about knowing terrorists were determined to strike on 9/11?

What decade have I landed in now?
 
2012-11-15 11:31:15 AM

bradkanus: Dusk-You-n-Me: bradkanus: The President fed the troll and kept the story alive.

He was asked about it. If he had ignored or deflected the question I'm sure you'd be the first one in here commending him for doing so.

Uh... he deflected several questions before that one and several after. He was doing great before and after that outburst.

I'm no McCain fan here - he's done more to screw over my party than the members of the other party have over the years. President shouldn't even acknowledge this grandstanding from a Senator trying to grasp onto some little shred of pertinence he already lost a long time ago.


Technically speaking your party was screwed over by the colossal failure of its pathetically backward, disgusting and morally bankrupt ideology.
 
2012-11-15 11:33:29 AM
Still mad about 2008 John? Its ok, it'll all be over soon.
 
2012-11-15 11:35:54 AM
We voted you down, old fool. Go away.
 
2012-11-15 11:36:24 AM
Of all the people I thought would stoop low enough to politicize a foreign attack on US citizens, I never thought it would be John McCain. So much for his love of country.
 
2012-11-15 11:36:35 AM
If McCain had been elected in 2008, he would have flown himself to Benghazi and personally taken out the bad guys.
 
2012-11-15 11:36:41 AM
Listen to him. The man is an expert.

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2012-11-15 11:37:14 AM
Wow! I was proven wrong.

I thought just like the ground zero mosque, the Benghazi thing will go away as soon as the election is over.

What the heck is happening here?
 
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