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2012-11-15 10:47:11 AM
Give him a break - the Coneheads a unfamiliar with our customs.

At least he wasn't forcing a senso ring over her head...
 
2012-11-15 10:50:52 AM

wambu: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.

My suspicion is that Petraeus was allowed cop to the lesser offense of adultery to sweep it under the rug and the decision was delayed due to political reasons. The all this wacko stuff came to light.

Electon-coverage burnot made the MSM hungry for the story. Plus it keeps getting more weird by the day what with this skinhead fool and Gen. Allen's involvement.

Many people appear to have made poor decisions along the way and I'm certain many more could be uncovered if we just looked. It's sad to think that this is the way our governmnet is run.


I am not interested in your suspicions, they are pointless.
 
2012-11-15 10:54:34 AM

GrizzlyPouch: ExcaliburPrime111: GrizzlyPouch: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

Lets say I'm a Chinese spy:

Listen up Davey boy, if you don't let me in on insert sensitive national security secret here, I'll expose your affair and ruin your personal and professional life.

Does that about sum it up?

I was going to say that too, except now everyone knows about it, so a potential spy would have no leverage. As for the reasons most politicians resign during sex scandals - that is because they have betrayed the trust of their constituents. In Petraeus' case, however, he has not been elected by anyone and he has no constituency. If he can still perform his job well, why not apologize, say he'll make things up with the wife, and keep on rolling?

Hm, that is a good point.

My response is he carried on the affair for months potentially exposing the country to problems. He handled himself improperly so he isn't fit to serve in the position as CIA director


POTENTIALLY

That is why you do not have an affair, just in case some COULD happen. It appears that the lady is not a spy so the POTENTIAL problem is not real so why should he resign?
 
2012-11-15 10:54:52 AM

chuckufarlie: wambu: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.

My suspicion is that Petraeus was allowed cop to the lesser offense of adultery to sweep it under the rug and the decision was delayed due to political reasons. The all this wacko stuff came to light.

Electon-coverage burnot made the MSM hungry for the story. Plus it keeps getting more weird by the day what with this skinhead fool and Gen. Allen's involvement.

Many people appear to have made poor decisions along the way and I'm certain many more could be uncovered if we just looked. It's sad to think that this is the way our governmnet is run.

I am not interested in your suspicions, they are pointless.


Yes, you are. Otherwise you wouldn't have taken the time to to read any of these comments, much less post your own
 
2012-11-15 10:56:03 AM
Post-election purges continue.
 
2012-11-15 10:56:10 AM

Pick13: [scifiwire.com image 330x306]


Holy crap, that puts a whole new angle on this. The Obama time machine did screw up the Benghazi alternate future!

Next we'll discover Gen Allen is a shapeshifter.
 
2012-11-15 10:56:31 AM

Diogenes: chuckufarlie: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

Potential to blackmail the highest intelligence officer in the land, duh. And as I said in another thread, this whole thing has revealed some serious flaws in the system that are being overshadowed by the sleaze.

there is no potential for blackmail. We all know about it now.

As for your serious flaws idea. That is as stupid as it gets.

The reason it's a career ender here is because it's a breach of protocol. Yes, in this instance, the cat's out of the bag. But the policy is in place so this shiat, and the potential for security and intelligence breaches, doesn't happen in the first place.

Your suggesting the rules are irrelevant once the transgression has occurred. THAT is as stupid as it gets.


care to cite that protocol? I am not aware of any protocol and I am pretty sure that you are not either.
 
2012-11-15 10:58:12 AM

FatherChaos: I immediately thought of Mr. Medulla.

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I went back a little further....

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2012-11-15 10:58:58 AM

Sweaty Dynamite: If an email essentially saying, "Stay away from my man" is enough to require a full blown FBI investigation, then how is the FBI getting anything done, what with all of the ongoing investigations I'm sure they're conducting sparked by Facebook catfights?


Socialism. Look it up.
 
2012-11-15 11:00:20 AM

wambu: I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.


I've worked with sensitive info before (at a hospital) and the idea that you'd casually share something like a patient's name - or a missile site, or a troop movement, or anything remotely resembling sensitive information - is so ludicrous, especially for someone who managed to not be a farkup for 30+ years in the military (even earning some stars), it barely warrants consideration.

You'd need some kind of something (evidence, allegation) to lead you down that path. Unless our Ms Kelley knows things she shouldn't (or has documents she shouldn't even have seen), I'd abandon that speculation.

// I know she had sensitive documents in her house, but so do many, many people (with government-issued laptops)
// should she never have been near them in the first place (i.e. is she not even cleared to know what's in them), forget the "having them in an insecure facility" part
 
2012-11-15 11:03:24 AM

GrizzlyPouch: chuckufarlie: wambu: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.

My suspicion is that Petraeus was allowed cop to the lesser offense of adultery to sweep it under the rug and the decision was delayed due to political reasons. The all this wacko stuff came to light.

Electon-coverage burnot made the MSM hungry for the story. Plus it keeps getting more weird by the day what with this skinhead fool and Gen. Allen's involvement.

Many people appear to have made poor decisions along the way and I'm certain many more could be uncovered if we just looked. It's sad to think that this is the way our governmnet is run.

I am not interested in your suspicions, they are pointless.

Yes, you are. Otherwise you wouldn't have taken the time to to read any of these comments, much less post your own


no, I am not. Your suspicions are pointless. I did not ask for suspicions.
 
2012-11-15 11:06:03 AM

chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?


UCMJ Article 134- Adultery
 
2012-11-15 11:07:28 AM

Sweaty Dynamite: If an email essentially saying, "Stay away from my man" is enough to require a full blown FBI investigation, then how is the FBI getting anything done, what with all of the ongoing investigations I'm sure they're conducting sparked by Facebook catfights?


The reality of the situation is even sadder than that.

"The emails that Jill Kelley showed an FBI friend near the start of last summer were not jealous lover warnings like 'stay away from my man', a knowledgeable source tells The Daily Beast. . . .

"'More like, 'Who do you think you are? . . .You parade around the base . . . You need to take it down a notch,'" according to the source, who was until recently at the highest levels of the intelligence community and prefers not to be identified by name.

"The source reports that the emails did make one reference to Gen. David Petraeus, but it was oblique and offered no manifest suggestion of a personal relationship or even that he was central to the sender's spite. . . .

"When the FBI friend showed the emails to the cyber squad in the Tampa field office, her fellow agents noted the absence of any overt threats.

"No, 'I'll kill you' or 'I'll burn your house down,'' the source says. 'It doesn't seem really that bad.'

"The squad was not even sure the case was worth pursuing, the source says.

"'What does this mean? There's no threat there. This is against the law?' the agents asked themselves by the source's account.

"At most the messages were harassing. The cyber squad had to consult the statute books in its effort to determine whether there was adequate legal cause to open a case.

"'It was a close call,' the source says.

"What tipped it may have been Kelley's friendship with the agent."
 

So, basically, based on nothing resembling a threat, the FBI launched a warrantless investigation into the personal life of the CIA director.

That this deeply personal motive was what spawned the FBI investigation is bolstered by the fact that the initial investigating agent "was barred from taking part in the case over the summer due to superiors' concerns that he was personally involved in the case" - indeed, "supervisors soon became concerned that the initial agent might have grown obsessed with the matter" - and was found to have "allegedly sent shirtless photos" to Kelley, and "is now under investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility, the internal-affairs arm of the FBI".
 
2012-11-15 11:09:14 AM

Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery


Which would apply if the affair happened while he was in the Military. The CIA has different rules regarding this kind of stuff.

If it turns out Petraeus is lying about when the affair occurred (which is quite possible considering the time period that Broadwell was "embedded" (trolol) with the General), then we are in for an escalation in this stranger than fiction shiatstorm.

There is obviously more going on here than we will ever be privy to.
 
2012-11-15 11:10:25 AM

toomuchwhargarbl: Sweaty Dynamite: If an email essentially saying, "Stay away from my man" is enough to require a full blown FBI investigation, then how is the FBI getting anything done, what with all of the ongoing investigations I'm sure they're conducting sparked by Facebook catfights?

Socialism. Look it up.

Study it out.

FTFY
 
2012-11-15 11:19:03 AM
I particularly like the San Francisco Chronicle's take on this:

All Americans who regard privacy as a fundamental right should be unnerved by the breadth and the detail of a search through personal correspondence in the scandal that brought down CIA Director David Petraeus.

For a moment, put aside the question of whether Petraeus and Gen. John Allen, the top NATO commander in Afghanistan, showed seriously poor judgment in their dealings with two women. The evidence to date suggests they did.

Still, the seemingly unfettered ability of federal investigators to expand a search that began with socialite Jill Kelley complaining to an FBI friend about online harassment shows the extent to which our Fourth Amendment protection against "unreasonable search and seizure" has been obliterated in the post-9/11 expansion of government surveillance. Kelley's grievance might have fallen on deaf ears if it had gone to someone other than an FBI agent who was out to impress her - as suggested by the shirtless photos he sent her.

The ability of government agents to conduct intrusive domestic surveillance in the absence of evidence of a crime is something many Americans assumed was forbidden by the reforms that followed the reign of J. Edgar Hoover, who used the tools at his disposal to mine embarrassing personal details about his enemies, real and perceived.

The extent of modern government surveillance is underscored by the numbers: requests for personal information on 34,000 Google accounts; the 1.7 billion e-mails, phone calls and other communications intercepted and stored each day by the National Security Agency.

These tools can be used for good (tracking terrorists and foiling their plots) and for ill (digging up dirt on political foes). Limits on these powers must be defined and overseen.

Congress needs to revisit the 1986 Electronic Communications Privacy Act, which was passed when Facebook inventor Mark Zuckerberg was a toddler. It's absurd that an e-mail should not have the same protection as a letter in a file cabinet. Yes, law-enforcement investigators should be able to track and read a suspect's e-mail - but only after making their case to a judge.

This nation must respect and vigilantly maintain a balance between security and privacy, famously defined by Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis in 1928 as the "right to be left alone."
 
2012-11-15 11:23:01 AM
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Lock them all up!

/hot like the cheerleader
 
2012-11-15 11:23:51 AM
Looking through the coverage of this 'scandal' it amazed me the lengths that grown-ass men will go to in response to some fawning attention from an attractive woman. Tell me that you don't look at the picture of 'shaved my head to conceal my receding hairline' agent next to the picture of 'socialite with fake boobs' and think that here's a guy trying to impress a woman that has always been out of his league. Same deal with Allen and Petraeus (though at least Petraeus got his knob polished) - it all just smacks of trying to impress women way to young for them by talking about all their power and confidential knowledge.

It shouldn't surprise me - I'm sure I'd respond in the same way if I hadn't taken the precaution of having zero power or influence over anything of importance.
 
2012-11-15 11:24:41 AM

chuckufarlie: wambu: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.

My suspicion is that Petraeus was allowed cop to the lesser offense of adultery to sweep it under the rug and the decision was delayed due to political reasons. The all this wacko stuff came to light.

Electon-coverage burnot made the MSM hungry for the story. Plus it keeps getting more weird by the day what with this skinhead fool and Gen. Allen's involvement.

Many people appear to have made poor decisions along the way and I'm certain many more could be uncovered if we just looked. It's sad to think that this is the way our governmnet is run.

I am not interested in your suspicions, they are pointless.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-15 11:27:01 AM
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I thought he looked pretty good shirtless, but he should have kept the hair.
 
2012-11-15 11:37:12 AM
Lots of People: We already know about the affair, so we don't have to worry about blackmail, so he should be able to keep his job.

Not true. For all we know, Petraeus has had dozens of affairs, it's just that (until now) he's only been sleeping with sane people. But even if Broadwell was his only paramour, he still can't be the head of the CIA anymore.

The fact that Petraeus is vulnerable to the attention of a young female admirer is exactly the sort of weakness intelligence officers look for when they're trying to acquire assets. You have to add to that the fact that he was perfectly fine with violating a solemn vow until he got caught, and that he intended to keep his prestigious and high-paying job... until he got caught. He was also deeply involved with a group of people who had everything to gain by exposing classified and personal information in exchange for money, privileges and inside access*. You don't have to be a psychologist to understand why foreign intelligence agencies would be interested in a guy like that. And now his weaknesses and vulnerabilities are extremely public; they don't even have to work to figure him out.

This is how you turn someone against their country. You find what their problems are and promise you can fix them. There are bonus points if you can make their problems worse. Petraeus can't be the head of the CIA for the same reason you wouldn't want an addict or someone with severe financial problems to be head of the CIA. It's not the moral violations that are a problem. It's the vulnerability this scandal has exposed. And the best way to solve it is to get that guy (and his con artist friends) away from classified information.

I'm not saying Petraeus is a bad person or that his public service wasn't valuable. But once you do something once it's easy to do it again, and next time it might not be with someone who has a security clearance.

*Speaking of inside access, what does one have to do to be come an "honorary consul" of a foreign country? Why would the government of South Korea lead that person to believe they had "diplomatic inviolability?" Do you really think it's an accident that someone who holds fancy parties for top military brass is also helping South Korean nationals make "trade" and "cultural" connections in the U.S.?
 
2012-11-15 11:40:13 AM
Is anyone on the right wing upset that this Kelley woman is of Middle Eastern descent? Because I think there have been some reccent cases where the right wing didn't cotton much to middle eastern women being married to folks or being in positions of authority.
 
2012-11-15 11:41:28 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: [crooksandliars.com image 369x284]


First thing that crossed my mind too.
 
2012-11-15 11:43:44 AM

spongeboob: Is anyone on the right wing upset that this Kelley woman is of Middle Eastern descent? Because I think there have been some reccent cases where the right wing didn't cotton much to middle eastern women being married to folks or being in positions of authority.


The Marine General she was engaged in heavy schmoozing with is probably solid Republican.
 
2012-11-15 11:48:50 AM
Is his name Salman Khan?

/very few will get it
 
2012-11-15 11:48:57 AM

wambu: chuckufarlie: wambu: chuckufarlie: Can somebody explain to me how any of this is important? why should Petraeus resign for having sex with a woman that was not his wife? If everybody inside the beltway was held up to that standard, they would all have to resign. They only person that should be pissed is his wife.

I suspect that there were some classified documents in the Google Docs dead drop that the lovers shared or the mistress got some clasified info via pillow talk. Both are serious breaches of security, especially for the Director of the C.I.Farking.A.

My suspicion is that Petraeus was allowed cop to the lesser offense of adultery to sweep it under the rug and the decision was delayed due to political reasons. The all this wacko stuff came to light.

Electon-coverage burnot made the MSM hungry for the story. Plus it keeps getting more weird by the day what with this skinhead fool and Gen. Allen's involvement.

Many people appear to have made poor decisions along the way and I'm certain many more could be uncovered if we just looked. It's sad to think that this is the way our governmnet is run.

I am not interested in your suspicions, they are pointless.

[i.imgur.com image 410x361]


who told you that people are supposed to post their own stupid suspicions?
 
2012-11-15 11:51:48 AM

Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery


the man is retired.
 
2012-11-15 11:53:01 AM

Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery


The UCMJ isn't applied to non-military members, only Broadwell would be punishable under UCMJ as she is a reservist.

spif: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery

Which would apply if the affair happened while he was in the Military. The CIA has different rules regarding this kind of stuff.

If it turns out Petraeus is lying about when the affair occurred (which is quite possible considering the time period that Broadwell was "embedded" (trolol) with the General), then we are in for an escalation in this stranger than fiction shiatstorm.

There is obviously more going on here than we will ever be privy to.


It really doesn't look like all that much is going on, just a bunch of catty biatches that getting loud at the O-club and Broadwell sent a few anonymous emails to escalate the catty-ness. You can find some variation of this bullshiat on every military installation in the country, this just happens to have occurred at US Central Command and to a woman that has an FBI agent trying to get in her pants.
 
2012-11-15 12:01:26 PM

chuckufarlie: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery

the man is retired.


He wasn't retired when Broadwell was embedded with him in Afghanistan. It's just a quesiton of when the affair began.
 
2012-11-15 12:09:20 PM

kokomo61: chuckufarlie: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery

the man is retired.

He wasn't retired when Broadwell was embedded with him in Afghanistan. It's just a quesiton of when the affair began.


does not matter
 
2012-11-15 12:21:26 PM
Not hot.

We're doing the "this or this" thing with the men also, right?
 
2012-11-15 12:24:30 PM

BullBearMS: "The emails that Jill Kelley showed an FBI friend near the start of last summer were not jealous lover warnings like 'stay away from my man', a knowledgeable source tells The Daily Beast. . . .
"'More like, 'Who do you think you are? . . .You parade around the base . . . You need to take it down a notch,'" according to the source, who was until recently at the highest levels of the intelligence community and prefers not to be identified by name.
"The source reports that the emails did make one reference to Gen. David Petraeus, but it was oblique and offered no manifest suggestion of a personal relationship or even that he was central to the sender's spite. . . .


Sounds about right A woman who would call 911 because there's paparazzi out in front of her house was probably ticked right off that someone would make disparaging comments about her in anonymous emails. So much so that she needed to contact the FBI, and rock her entire privileged little world because someone offended HER.

And this is why you don't hang around with crazy people.
 
2012-11-15 12:24:30 PM
There are so many threads on this scandal. We really ought to use one of them to discuss whether Petraeus might be subject to UCMJ.
 
2012-11-15 12:25:56 PM
www.twcenter.net
 
I loved him in The Right Stuff.
 
2012-11-15 12:33:26 PM
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CIA Superior: What did we learn, Palmer?
CIA Officer: I don't know, sir.
CIA Superior: I don't farkin' know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.
CIA Officer: Yes, sir.
CIA Superior: I'm farked if I know what we did.
CIA Officer: Yes, sir, it's, uh, hard to say
CIA Superior: Jesus Farking Christ.
 
2012-11-15 12:33:51 PM

Lunaville: Not hot.

We're doing the "this or this" thing with the men also, right?


It's only fair.
 
2012-11-15 12:56:09 PM

chuckufarlie: kokomo61: chuckufarlie: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery

the man is retired.

He wasn't retired when Broadwell was embedded with him in Afghanistan. It's just a quesiton of when the affair began.

does not matter


Chuck there's just so much fail in your posts it's impossible to respond to it all
 
2012-11-15 01:05:42 PM

chuckufarlie: the man is retired.


Article 2 of the UCMJ states that the code applies to retired personnel, as they still receive benefits from the military. The CIA has rules against adultery as well.

And he voluntarily resigned.

Lunaville: There are so many threads on this scandal. We really ought to use one of them to discuss whether Petraeus might be subject to UCMJ.


I'm beginning to wonder if I'm wasting my keystrokes, but I've tried.
 
2012-11-15 01:21:16 PM

GrizzlyPouch: chuckufarlie: kokomo61: chuckufarlie: Diogenes: chuckufarlie: care to cite that protocol?

UCMJ Article 134- Adultery

the man is retired.

He wasn't retired when Broadwell was embedded with him in Afghanistan. It's just a quesiton of when the affair began.

does not matter

Chuck there's just so much fail in your posts it's impossible to respond to it all


You cannot apply the code to the man after he has retired, no matter when it happened. It is when you find out about it that counts. You are full of fail, you are just not aware of it.
 
2012-11-15 01:23:38 PM

factoryconnection: chuckufarlie: the man is retired.

Article 2 of the UCMJ states that the code applies to retired personnel, as they still receive benefits from the military. The CIA has rules against adultery as well.

And he voluntarily resigned.

Lunaville: There are so many threads on this scandal. We really ought to use one of them to discuss whether Petraeus might be subject to UCMJ.

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm wasting my keystrokes, but I've tried.


As the head of the CIA, he was not receiving retirement benefits from the military. The fact that he voluntarily resigned has nothing to do with it.

Yes, you are wasting your keystrokes because you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2012-11-15 01:24:33 PM
 
2012-11-15 01:29:53 PM

BullBearMS: Retired members of the uniformed services who are entitled to retirement pay are also subject to the UCMJ, as are retired reservists who are receiving hospital care in the VA system.


that is absolutely wonder! Right on target!!

Oh wait, retired members who go to work for the Federal Govt. do not receive retirement pay. Other than that, you are a genius.
 
2012-11-15 01:34:56 PM

chuckufarlie: BullBearMS: Retired members of the uniformed services who are entitled to retirement pay are also subject to the UCMJ, as are retired reservists who are receiving hospital care in the VA system.

that is absolutely wonder! Right on target!!

Oh wait, retired members who go to work for the Federal Govt. do not receive retirement pay. Other than that, you are a genius.


Did you notice the part where it says "entitled to" instead of "while actively receiving"?

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-11-15 01:54:28 PM

BullBearMS: chuckufarlie: BullBearMS: Retired members of the uniformed services who are entitled to retirement pay are also subject to the UCMJ, as are retired reservists who are receiving hospital care in the VA system.

that is absolutely wonder! Right on target!!

Oh wait, retired members who go to work for the Federal Govt. do not receive retirement pay. Other than that, you are a genius.

Did you notice the part where it says "entitled to" instead of "while actively receiving"?


Lol bull I gave up.

Can't make 2+2=5 no matter how many times you look at it
 
2012-11-15 01:59:22 PM
i submitted this with a better headline last night, and i'm not ashamed to repost it:

Shirtless Fred Humphries revealed as FBI Agent in Washington White Sex Scandal.

\harrumph
 
2012-11-15 02:06:59 PM

GrizzlyPouch: Lol bull I gave up.

Can't make 2+2=5 no matter how many times you look at it


You can admit it. You're going to miss all that blathering nonsense. dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-11-15 02:09:16 PM

BullBearMS: chuckufarlie: BullBearMS: Retired members of the uniformed services who are entitled to retirement pay are also subject to the UCMJ, as are retired reservists who are receiving hospital care in the VA system.

that is absolutely wonder! Right on target!!

Oh wait, retired members who go to work for the Federal Govt. do not receive retirement pay. Other than that, you are a genius.

Did you notice the part where it says "entitled to" instead of "while actively receiving"?

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x480]


yes, but unlike you, I actually know what that means. When he was caught, the man was not entitled to receive retirement pay because he was receiving payment from the CIA.

You don't have to like it, but that is the way it works.
 
2012-11-15 02:10:33 PM

GrizzlyPouch: BullBearMS: chuckufarlie: BullBearMS: Retired members of the uniformed services who are entitled to retirement pay are also subject to the UCMJ, as are retired reservists who are receiving hospital care in the VA system.

that is absolutely wonder! Right on target!!

Oh wait, retired members who go to work for the Federal Govt. do not receive retirement pay. Other than that, you are a genius.

Did you notice the part where it says "entitled to" instead of "while actively receiving"?

Lol bull I gave up.

Can't make 2+2=5 no matter how many times you look at it


you just do not understand "government speak". That is not your fault. However, pretending to know what you are talking about is your fault.
 
2012-11-15 02:16:18 PM

chuckufarlie: yes, but unlike you, I actually know what that means. When he was caught, the man was not entitled to receive retirement pay because he was receiving payment from the CIA.

You don't have to like it, but that is the way it works.


No. You just don't understand how double dipping the Federal retirement system works.

You put off collecting your military retirement pay so that your time in the armed forces counts towards an additional retirement account as a civil servant.

Seriously, just stop. You're making yourself look more and more retarded here.
 
2012-11-15 02:22:48 PM
[checks link hoping to see attractive guy]

GAH!

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