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(Politico)   While McCain was grand-standing over Benghazi, he was missing Homeland Security briefings on Benghazi   (dyn.politico.com) divider line 106
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2012-11-15 09:04:11 AM  
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2012-11-15 09:11:18 AM  
But Graham, a leading voice on defense and foreign policy issues, pointed out he would not be privy to Petraeus's secret testimony since he doesn't serve on the Intelligence or Foreign Relations panels.

Too f*cking bad you little b*tch.
 
2012-11-15 09:19:01 AM  
Graham and McCain are a disgrace. They couldn't care less about what really happened in Benghazi. They only care about using it to hurt the POTUS. McCain is double disgusting. the ambassador that was killed was a close personal friend and he is using his corpse as a political tool.
 
2012-11-15 09:20:52 AM  
Start impeachment proceedings, you freaking cowards

/or STFU
 
2012-11-15 09:22:39 AM  
Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.
 
2012-11-15 09:24:54 AM  
Maine Sen. Susan Collins, the top Republican on the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, backed up her chairman, Lieberman, and dinged McCain, a member of the panel, for missing Wednesday's nearly two-hour briefing in the Capitol.

She's an incredibly bright woman, and you can bet your ass I'll vote for her in 2014.
 
2012-11-15 09:26:31 AM  
i575.photobucket.com


Can someone put McCains face over Milhouse?
 
2012-11-15 09:31:52 AM  

hdhale: Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


Keep raping those dead Americans for political gain, buddy.
 
2012-11-15 09:45:48 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-15 09:50:00 AM  
So we can be pretty much 100% sure he's less interested in what happened than he is in making noise?

Got it.

If there was an ignore button for McCain, I'd have just pressed it.
 
2012-11-15 10:07:38 AM  

hdhale: Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


You're twisting facts, there. They got assistance in 24 minutes via the CIA annex. Stevens was moved to the safe room. There they were smoked out - Stevens Smith stayed and died from smoke asphyxiation. Reinforcements arrived from Tripoli (over 300 miles away) in four hours.

32 people were protected in the annex, and the attacks never came close to penetrating the annex. The two men killed at the annex were on the roofs manning machine guns; they were killed by mortar fire. The rest were flown out of the country.

So I'm not sure where you get your 8 hours from.
 
2012-11-15 10:31:20 AM  

HulkHands: So I'm not sure where you get your 8 hours from.


The National Derp Briefing that is given every Wednesday.
 
2012-11-15 10:58:29 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: HulkHands: So I'm not sure where you get your 8 hours from.

The National Derp Briefing that is given every Wednesday.


To paraphrase my current favorite farker, he was molested by facts as a child and now can't stand to be around them.
 
2012-11-15 12:00:11 PM  

Aarontology: hdhale: Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.

Keep raping those dead Americans for political gain, buddy.


^ This. I knew the GOP was capable of low down disgusting behavior, but this is lower than whale shiat.
 
2012-11-15 12:24:54 PM  
McCain looks tired.



/yes I'm just going to repeat that line in every McCain thread from now on
 
2012-11-15 12:25:57 PM  
security failure under obama 4 americans die in benghazi = impeached
security failure under bush, 3,000 americans dead on american soil = Hero president!
 
2012-11-15 12:27:33 PM  

hdhale: Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


Why are you here? Shouldn't you be somewhere else shutting the fark up?
 
2012-11-15 12:28:37 PM  

gittlebass: security failure under obama 4 americans die in benghazi = impeached
security failure under bush, 3,000 americans dead on american soil = Hero president!


Obama should have went to Benghazi with a megaphone and stood on the rubble of the embassy. That's the difference.
 
2012-11-15 12:30:25 PM  
I picture hdhale with a Romneyesque smirk as he clicked "Add Comment."
 
2012-11-15 12:31:08 PM  
dropped this in the last McCain/Benghazi thread:

Partisan hackery. The old guy can be an effective lawmaker when he puts his mind to it but he keeps diving back into the GOP attack dog role.
 
2012-11-15 12:31:23 PM  
i566.photobucket.com
Shamelessly stolen from another Benghazi thread.
 
2012-11-15 12:31:42 PM  

Hobodeluxe: gittlebass: security failure under obama 4 americans die in benghazi = impeached
security failure under bush, 3,000 americans dead on american soil = Hero president!

Obama should have went to Benghazi with a megaphone and stood on the rubble of the embassy. That's the difference.


At the very least, he should have strutted around on an aircraft carrier while wearing a codpiece.
 
2012-11-15 12:32:51 PM  
Typical. Par for the course.
 
2012-11-15 12:34:10 PM  
Hopefully this will come up in the hearings:


House Republicans cut the administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012....Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans' proposed cuts to her department would be "detrimental to America's national security" - a charge Republicans rejected.

Ryan, Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan's budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.
 
2012-11-15 12:35:31 PM  
Stay stupid GOP!
 
2012-11-15 12:35:34 PM  
So, you're telling me McCain prefers shallow politicking to substance.

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-11-15 12:38:02 PM  
And it looks like his calls for a special panel is going over about as well as the suspension of his campaign in 2008 did. Link

Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R- Ga., senior Republican on the Intelligence Committee, said Wednesday, "I told him (McCain) today that I'd just seen his resolution and I'm not sure whether it's not just a duplication of what we're doing."

Another Republican on the Intelligence Committee, Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina said, "Listen, I think it's way too early to be calling for a special committee. I think you've got to allow the structure we have of oversight to function. And I think that the Intelligence Committee is more than capable of handling this."

Another opponent to McCain was the top-ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who said of McCain's proposal, "I really don't view it as being necessary. The Intelligence and the Homeland Security Committees are already investigating."
 
2012-11-15 12:38:23 PM  

hdhale: Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


static.prtst.net



No wonder I have you fav'ed as "Farking retarded".
 
2012-11-15 12:40:49 PM  
I have never wanted to tell someone to their face to EABOD more than right now.
 
2012-11-15 12:40:53 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: HulkHands: So I'm not sure where you get your 8 hours from.

The National Derp Briefing that is given every Wednesday.


Yup. It's often held at McDonald's over breakfast.
 
2012-11-15 12:42:45 PM  
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2012-11-15 12:43:40 PM  

smimmy: And it looks like his calls for a special panel is going over about as well as the suspension of his campaign in 2008 did. Link


Or his pandering over 'roids in baseball by calling a special hearing...

He's nothing if not a grandstander.
 
2012-11-15 12:44:43 PM  
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said Thursday the senator missed the meeting because of a "scheduling error." "he was outside yelling at a fluffy cloud."
 
2012-11-15 12:45:30 PM  
Benghazi didn't matter to the American people during the election. And there are far bigger things happening in the world right now. But the republicans continue to march to a completely different drummer, right into obscurity.
 
2012-11-15 12:47:25 PM  

hdhale:

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


voodoogunnery.com
www.oilempire.us

The 1980's called..they want their Iran Contra scandal/cover up back.
 
2012-11-15 12:57:32 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Shamelessly stolen from another Benghazi thread.


Awesome.
 
2012-11-15 12:58:33 PM  
i151.photobucket.comabcnews.go.com

Let me see, which one of these women was actually involved in failing to prevent deaths of Americans, and then shamelessly pushing false intel to justify a costly invasion?

And which one did McCain and Graham support as Secretary of State nominee?

??
 
2012-11-15 12:58:42 PM  
beachpeanuts.typepad.com

"My friend, I invited you here to my ranch because I'm a great admirer of your work. You've managed to take down 5 American aircraft during your life, while I only have managed a measly 1. What's your secret?"
 
2012-11-15 12:59:52 PM  
Yeah yeah, fark McCain, whatever.

Can we talk about this guy's name FTFA: "Dutch Ruppersberger"?

What kind of balls does it take to get involved, and win, in politics with that name? And how do I get a campaign sign?

/I thought that was that thing that "Jay" demonstrated on chubby/charming guy in that "chubby/charming guy and tits mcgee make a porno" movie.
//I don't remember things so good.
///It's the drugs.
 
2012-11-15 12:59:54 PM  
I'm still not really clear on what Republicans and Fox News are insinuating that the Obama administration did that was so scandalous.

Implicate the anti-Muslim YouTube video? That seemed to be the best intelligence at the time. When new intelligence came out, they changed their assessment.

Not having adequate security at a remote consulate? Obviously that is easy to say in hindsight. I'm sure security protocols will be re-assessed. Unfortunately, this is far from the first violent attack on a US diplomatic post, and it wont be the last.

I'm just not seeing how an attack on us = Obama scandal. Aside from the fact that Fox News really wants it to be one. But there's no there there.
 
2012-11-15 01:02:22 PM  
You know what's really stupid about trying to politicize Benghazi? There is probably nothing that anyone could have done to stop it because it was one of those random acts of violence that usually wouldn't get out of hand, but because multiple things happened unfavorably, this time something did happen.

I feel like all of the people trying to make hay out of this need to be handed a copy of Nasim Taleb's The Black Swan (not remotely related to the film of the same name) and forced to read it. What happened in Benghazi is unfortunate, but no amount of talking about it now could have prevented it, nor will the measures put into place now prevent the next unfortunate occurrence. These things occur because there is always some probability that a system won't work to prevent bad things from happening.

Of course, I don't believe for a second that McCain, Graham, Liberman or any of the others on the GOP who won't shut up about Benghazi are actually concerned about what happened. They want to try to create a scandal to undermine the president, and the unfortunate timing of the rather idiotic Petraeus soap opera is allowing them to keep this thing going with the people who only listen to Fox News and right-wing radio for their information.

Need I remind anyone that the Republicans have shown little interest in the many embassy attacks that have occurred since 9/11/01, or that Petraeus was the right's golden boy when the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were under his watch? You'd think Obama ordered the deaths of the folks at the embassy and flew Petraeus in from the deepest reaches of Socialist Muslim Kenya from the way the right's talking now.
 
2012-11-15 01:03:54 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Implicate the anti-Muslim YouTube video? That seemed to be the best intelligence at the time. When new intelligence came out, they changed their assessment.


I think they were supposed to be honest from the very beginning that it was a CIA base of operations. So, you know, everyone in Libya could track down the agents and their assets as soon as possible.

/not sure the GOP knows how this 'spy' thing works
 
2012-11-15 01:04:20 PM  

Doc Daneeka: I'm still not really clear on what Republicans and Fox News are insinuating that the Obama administration did that was so scandalous.

Implicate the anti-Muslim YouTube video? That seemed to be the best intelligence at the time. When new intelligence came out, they changed their assessment.

Not having adequate security at a remote consulate? Obviously that is easy to say in hindsight. I'm sure security protocols will be re-assessed. Unfortunately, this is far from the first violent attack on a US diplomatic post, and it wont be the last.

I'm just not seeing how an attack on us = Obama scandal. Aside from the fact that Fox News really wants it to be one. But there's no there there.


I have a right wing Obama hating friend who summarizes it like this every chance he gets..

"Obama lied; Americans died".

Plus, he issues scathing indictments of the LIBERALLY BIASED MEDIA for paying more attention to a "silly little cell phone video" (Romney's 47 percent fiasco) that BENGHAZI and what a tragedy it is.

I haven't engaged with him on any extended debate on it because I don't know what happened there myself, but that's the official view from that particular corner of Rightwingistan.
 
2012-11-15 01:06:20 PM  
MSNBC interprets McCain's and Graham's attacks on Susan Rice (the reason for the Presidents "come after me" comment, which hdhale has moved completely out of context in his post [above]) as an attempt to get Scott Brown back into the Senate by forcing the President to choose Sen. Kerry for the role of Secretary of State, thus vacating a Senate seat. Brown could then run for that seat. Convoluted at that may seem to be, it may be McCain and Graham's underlying motivation. There is, of course, the added bonus of making a lot of smoke and noise, artificial outrage and finger pointing, with the possibility of forming an investigative committee (which are so beloved by the GOP when a Democrat is in the White House).

Whatever their motives, the politicizing of the tragic events in Benghazi by the GOP should come as no surprise to anyone. The GOP will seize on any event, and inflate it, in order to attack the Obama - or any Democratic - Administration. This has been their standard operating procedure for the last forty years. The GOP has never gotten over the shame and humiliation of Watergate and wish to return the favor, to the point of manufacturing scandals and malfeasance out of thin air.
 
2012-11-15 01:06:29 PM  

hdhale: Stepping before a bank of TV cameras after her briefing, Collins said she was troubled by a number of facts about the attack: the U.S. was relying on Libyan nationals and militias to protect the consulate; there were 234 security incidents in the past year in the country, with one in five taking place in Benghazi; and the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance.

That's the real story, not McCain.

The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this one and then pretended to scramble for answers afterward, floating the idea that a mob got carried away when it was apparent from the start that no mob pissed off about an insulting movie carried out the attack. The President says, "if you want to come after someone, come after me." We can only hope Congress does, though I'm certain there is no shortage of people willing to fall on their sword (because they planned on leaving in January anyway) and deflect blame from him.

Seriously, I can challenge anyone to a fight if I know that I'll never actually have to defend myself. Obama showed no courage at that press conference, only an ability to talk down to people who should know better.


No, this quote: "the vicious assault was underway for about eight hours before Americans trapped there got any assistance" is flat-out wrong.
The most salient points of the timeline:

Attack begins at 9:40p.m.

25 minutes after being notified, backup was on the way from the annex to the compound

1:21 after being requested (11:11 p.m.) drone surveillance arrives over the mission compound

1:50 after the attack began (11:30 p.m.) all U.S. personnel, except for Stevens, who is missing, depart the mission

- Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approximately 1 a.m. (The first attack ended after about 3:20)

- At about the same time, a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the ambassador is missing and that the situation at the annex has calmed, the team focuses on locating the ambassador and tries to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital. (AT APPROXIMATELY 1a.m. -- JUST OVER THREE HOURS FROM WHEN THE WORD FIRST GOT OUT, DOZENS OF SPECIAL FORCES AND CIA AGENTS HAD ARRIVED FROM TRIPOLI, 480 MILES AWAY)

- It's still predawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that Stevens is almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital is uncertain, the team heads to the annex to assist with the evacuation.

- They arrive with Libyan support at the annex at 5:15 a.m., just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the annex. The two security officers are killed when they take direct mortar fire as they engage the enemy. That attack lasts only 11 minutes before dissipating. (THIS ATTACK OCCURRED 4 HOURS AFTER THE FIRST ATTACK HAD STOPPED AND ONLY LASTED 11 MINUTES.)

- Less than an hour later, a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrives to help evacuate the compound of all U.S. personnel.


Let me repeat this one bit:

AT APPROXIMATELY 1a.m. -- JUST OVER THREE HOURS FROM WHEN THE WORD FIRST GOT OUT -- DOZENS OF SPECIAL FORCES AND CIA AGENTS HAD ARRIVED FROM TRIPOLI, 480 MILES AWAY. That's fast. They learned that the attack (what turned out to be the first attack) ended about the same time they were arriving.

To sum up:
Short of sending in jets to kill everyone (which could have killed our backup as they fought their way in and allied Libyan soldiers) around the compound/annex they did everything they could.

There, that should satisfy everyone.
 
2012-11-15 01:06:34 PM  
i309.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 01:07:04 PM  

zappaisfrank: Doc Daneeka: I'm still not really clear on what Republicans and Fox News are insinuating that the Obama administration did that was so scandalous.

Implicate the anti-Muslim YouTube video? That seemed to be the best intelligence at the time. When new intelligence came out, they changed their assessment.

Not having adequate security at a remote consulate? Obviously that is easy to say in hindsight. I'm sure security protocols will be re-assessed. Unfortunately, this is far from the first violent attack on a US diplomatic post, and it wont be the last.

I'm just not seeing how an attack on us = Obama scandal. Aside from the fact that Fox News really wants it to be one. But there's no there there.

I have a right wing Obama hating friend who summarizes it like this every chance he gets..

"Obama lied; Americans died".

Plus, he issues scathing indictments of the LIBERALLY BIASED MEDIA for paying more attention to a "silly little cell phone video" (Romney's 47 percent fiasco) that BENGHAZI and what a tragedy it is.

I haven't engaged with him on any extended debate on it because I don't know what happened there myself, but that's the official view from that particular corner of Rightwingistan.


Just change his words around:
"Americans died; Obama lied" and contrast that with "Bush lied, Americans died."
 
2012-11-15 01:09:41 PM  

red5ish: MSNBC interprets McCain's and Graham's attacks on Susan Rice (the reason for the Presidents "come after me" comment, which hdhale has moved completely out of context in his post [above]) as an attempt to get Scott Brown back into the Senate by forcing the President to choose Sen. Kerry for the role of Secretary of State, thus vacating a Senate seat. Brown could then run for that seat. Convoluted at that may seem to be, it may be McCain and Graham's underlying motivation. There is, of course, the added bonus of making a lot of smoke and noise, artificial outrage and finger pointing, with the possibility of forming an investigative committee (which are so beloved by the GOP when a Democrat is in the White House).

Whatever their motives, the politicizing of the tragic events in Benghazi by the GOP should come as no surprise to anyone. The GOP will seize on any event, and inflate it, in order to attack the Obama - or any Democratic - Administration. This has been their standard operating procedure for the last forty years. The GOP has never gotten over the shame and humiliation of Watergate and wish to return the favor, to the point of manufacturing scandals and malfeasance out of thin air.


Scott Brown's play became pretty apparent when he came out in favor of a Kerry appointment.
 
2012-11-15 01:09:41 PM  
You know, two can play at this game.

Do any Farkers here happen to know any journalists, even local ones? I'd love to see the media ask Darrell Issa and his merry band of potatoes exactly why they voted to slash funding for embassy security shortly before the attack. Not that I really believe that there was any deeper reason for it than making more room for their beloved tax cuts (though I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised), but it's amazing how few people are even aware of that minor point.

They want a scandal? Let's give them a scandal.
 
2012-11-15 01:16:02 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: You know, two can play at this game.

Do any Farkers here happen to know any journalists, even local ones? I'd love to see the media ask Darrell Issa and his merry band of potatoes exactly why they voted to slash funding for embassy security shortly before the attack. Not that I really believe that there was any deeper reason for it than making more room for their beloved tax cuts (though I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised), but it's amazing how few people are even aware of that minor point.

They want a scandal? Let's give them a scandal.


What makes you think Obama doesn't have that card in hand? ;-)
 
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