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2012-11-15 02:19:10 PM

poughdrew: Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?

Watch the video and brine it first. Duck and smaller chickens are easy to brine in plastic bags in the fridge. Turkeys usually require a 5 gallon clean (clean!) Home Depot bucket, and a lot of fridge space.
If you'd rather do duck instead, Alton Brown's recipe there is another can't lose method of brine -> steam -> pan sear. Plus, there's all the yummy rendered duck fat.


Or a 5 gallon bucket, 14lbs of ice, a heavy rock and a porch where the overnight temp should be right around 34.
 
2012-11-15 02:20:28 PM

gingerjet: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: On that note, avoid Craftsteak (Tom Colicchio's joint). You can get a better steak at pretty much any other steakhouse. Never before in my life have I had a medium rare steak that still managed to be dry and flavorless and pay out the nose for it.

Agree whole heartily on Craftsteak. The atmosphere is even worse. I have yet to find a decent steakhouse on the strip.


Take a little trip to Hank's, it's damm good
 
2012-11-15 02:46:56 PM

enry: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

This.

/made his brined turkey the year my daughter was born...on Thanksgiving morning.


I went the opposite route and SWORE, it was going to be this guy:
Link
 
2012-11-15 02:48:25 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Grither: Does anyone really make Chicken and Waffles for Thanksgiving dinner?

Not really. It sounds AWESOME though. Sadly people are willing to sacrifice awesomeness for tradition. Turkey is bleh. Thanksgiving dinner in general is a celebration of traditional American culinary inferiority.

/sweet potato casserole being the exception


how dare you
thesouthernvegan.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 02:51:59 PM

Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?


Garlic burns pretty easilly and will taste acrid. I stick garlic inside the bird.
 
2012-11-15 02:58:34 PM
That's not Paula Dean.

/needs more butter!
 
2012-11-15 03:01:54 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-15 03:20:36 PM

gingerjet: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

Alton Brown isn't a chef.


A couple of the recipes he's devised suck. He's an entertaining guy to listen to, but there are literally thousands of actual chefs who are better at cooking food.
 
2012-11-15 03:48:01 PM

gingerjet: Frank N Stein: Considering he's English, I'm assuming he boiled both the chicken and the waffles.

Thomas Keller isn't english - he was born in Oceanside California. And his roast chicken is incredible (make it once a week).

/if you are ever in Vegas - hit Kellers Bouchon at the Venetian. Its incredible food which you don't have to pay a ton for and have to wait years to get a reservation


It's amazing how good (and simple) roast chicken is. I've started blow drying it before preparing for the oven...really gets the skin crispy. God, I love crispy chicken skin.
 
2012-11-15 04:02:41 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?

Garlic burns pretty easilly and will taste acrid. I stick garlic inside the bird.


Agreed. I go garlic (and shallot) inside. And you don't need more than olive oil, salt, pepper and whatever herbs you like (Thyme and rosemary for me).
 
2012-11-15 04:06:55 PM
Thomas Keller? *clicks link*

Approval!
 
2012-11-15 04:13:48 PM

LL316: gingerjet: Frank N Stein: Considering he's English, I'm assuming he boiled both the chicken and the waffles.

Thomas Keller isn't english - he was born in Oceanside California. And his roast chicken is incredible (make it once a week).

/if you are ever in Vegas - hit Kellers Bouchon at the Venetian. Its incredible food which you don't have to pay a ton for and have to wait years to get a reservation

It's amazing how good (and simple) roast chicken is. I've started blow drying it before preparing for the oven...really gets the skin crispy. God, I love crispy chicken skin.


Another way is to rub baking soda on the skin.
 
2012-11-15 04:20:59 PM

knobmaker: gingerjet: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

Alton Brown isn't a chef.

A couple of the recipes he's devised suck. He's an entertaining guy to listen to, but there are literally thousands of actual chefs who are better at cooking food.


3/10...
 
2012-11-15 04:39:37 PM
The audio in this file is terrible. My ears hurt from watching this.
 
2012-11-15 04:41:33 PM

jdjoker: It's amazing how good (and simple) roast chicken is. I've started blow drying it before preparing for the oven...really gets the skin crispy. God, I love crispy chicken skin.

Another way is to rub baking soda on the skin.


Corn starch and salt will work too.
 
2012-11-15 04:56:58 PM

gingerjet: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

Alton Brown isn't a chef.


Of course he's not, he's an 80's synth pop musician who wrote songs about "Science!"
 
2012-11-15 05:51:20 PM

Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?


Might not be a workable solution for you, but i have yet to find anything that makes chicken better than a rotisserie for your backyard grill (yes, even one with propane, as sacrilegious as that sounds)

I like it simple: butter, salt, pepper, garlic powder and let her spin low n' slow. Done right it gets you crispy skin all around.

And buy your chicken from a chicken farm if you can. It does make a difference.
 
2012-11-15 05:56:18 PM

knobmaker: gingerjet: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

Alton Brown isn't a chef.

A couple of the recipes he's devised suck. He's an entertaining guy to listen to, but there are literally thousands of actual chefs who are better at cooking food.


I am a big fan of his show and own his books, but I have to agree with the above.

I generally go to his stuff for southern cooking (biscuits, etc) and I do like his chocolate chip cookies. And I have graduated to The Professional Chef for most technique questions.
 
2012-11-15 06:00:32 PM
My personal all-purpose brine base: 3 TBSP kosher salt for each quart of water/liquid. Add flavors as you wish. Sit for at least 4 hours.
 
2012-11-15 06:03:20 PM

Glenford: That's not Bobby Flay

/ducks


The man drives me crazy, but having made both his and Alton's turkeys... I liked the BF one better. I am so sorry, I feel dirty admitting it because I love Alton's information, humor, and recipes... but the brining really is not nescesary.

A good rub and frequent basting does it better. Sure it's more involved and not the best apprach if you don't want to spend the time in the kitchen, but if you can do it, the results are incredible!
 
2012-11-15 06:11:56 PM

Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.


Thisn

This guy's picking bits of shell out of the eggs and had to be reminded to wash his hands after handling raw chicken (that's been sitting out on the counter for who knows how long...).
=Smidge=
 
2012-11-15 06:12:30 PM
The Good Eats / AB Brined Turkey is the BEST turkey I've ever had.

I can't imagine going back to another recipe now.

/10 years and counting
//daughters look forward to making the brine
///SLASHIES come in THREE
 
2012-11-15 06:51:17 PM

Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.


Second.
 
2012-11-15 06:51:57 PM
Speaking about Alton Brown, one interesting thing about him is that he's a a pretty devout Christian as well as a gun enthusiast.

savethegun.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 06:59:38 PM

Frank N Stein: Speaking about Alton Brown, one interesting thing about him is that he's a a pretty devout Christian as well as a gun enthusiast.

[savethegun.files.wordpress.com image 378x597]


I saw him at the movie theater with his wife a few years ago. Sniped a picture, but didn't want to bother him and make a scene.

/dull story, bro
 
2012-11-15 07:10:29 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Grither: Does anyone really make Chicken and Waffles for Thanksgiving dinner?

Not really. It sounds AWESOME though. Sadly people are willing to sacrifice awesomeness for tradition. Turkey is bleh. Thanksgiving dinner in general is a celebration of traditional American culinary inferiority.

/sweet potato casserole being the exception


We had to order our meal pre-cooked this year. There was no way in hell I was going to pay for a dried-out, chemically preserved, salty half a carcass of a turkey when I could have a prime rib roast.

I will take a poorly-prepared roast over a poorly prepared turkey anyday. Just give me some horseradish and jus and red wine. Amen.
 
2012-11-15 07:14:12 PM

Smidge204: Frank N Stein: I was almost certain this link would be to Alton Brown.

Thisn

This guy's picking bits of shell out of the eggs and had to be reminded to wash his hands after handling raw chicken (that's been sitting out on the counter for who knows how long...).
=Smidge=


I hope that you are joking.

Keller is the only American chef to have been awarded simultaneous three star Michelin ratings for two different restaurants. Never farking mind that they are on opposite coasts.

I've never even heard of the guy before this video, and love Alton Brown's Good Eats series, but it's not even close.
 
2012-11-15 08:46:38 PM

Unauthorized Bratwurst: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Turkey is bleh. Thanksgiving dinner in general is a celebration of traditional American culinary inferiority.

Agreed. We should be celebrating Spaghetti Carbonara Day instead.

/obscure?


I'm okay with this....I love me some carbonara.
 
2012-11-15 09:33:45 PM
BLASPHEMY! ONLY ALTON BROWN CAN SHOW YOU THE BEST WAY ON HOW TO PREPARE AND COOK A TURKEY!!!
 
2012-11-15 10:02:31 PM

Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?


I tried a recipe where you separate the skin from the meat with a spoon and stuff it with an herb/butter mixture. Do it carefully to prevent tearing and just the breasts to the legs.
Holy shiat was it tender and juicy. Of course, stuff the cavity as needed but it penetrates the meat rather than seasoning the skin which kinda prevents it. It really, seriously infuses the meat with whatever herbs and spices you use, plus the butter helps :)
 
2012-11-15 10:26:57 PM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?

I tried a recipe where you separate the skin from the meat with a spoon and stuff it with an herb/butter mixture. Do it carefully to prevent tearing and just the breasts to the legs.
Holy shiat was it tender and juicy. Of course, stuff the cavity as needed but it penetrates the meat rather than seasoning the skin which kinda prevents it. It really, seriously infuses the meat with whatever herbs and spices you use, plus the butter helps :)


Jacques Pepin has a video on youtube--I think it's Anthony Bourdain's show--that demonstrates deboning a chicken in two minutes. Then you just stuff the hell out of it, roll it up and roast it.

I can't get enough Pepin. I'm still not satisfied.
 
2012-11-15 10:56:51 PM

Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?


http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/My-Favorite-Simple-Roast - Chicken-231348
 
2012-11-15 11:26:56 PM

Glenford: That's not Bobby Flay

/ducks


Actually, the hanger steak at his steakhouse in Atlantic City's Borgata is out of this world.
 
2012-11-15 11:31:43 PM

Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?


I make a paste of herbs de provence, salt, pepper & olive oil and rub it on the outside of the chicken. Salt and pepper on the inside along with a squeeze of half a lemon. Then I throw the rind inside the cavity before I roast it.
 
2012-11-15 11:42:39 PM
 
2012-11-16 01:40:52 AM

poughdrew: I'm sorry, did that Brit just say he'd never seen a waffle maker before?


That Brit is Vyvyan Basterd
 
2012-11-16 02:48:21 AM

Grither: HeartBurnKid: I'd like to second this method, and also add that beer isn't the only liquid you can use for this. You could do the same thing with a can of Coke, or even just take an empty can and fill it 2/3 full of white wine (you don't need anything expensive; Two-Buck Chuck is fine). Feel free to experiment a little.

Try pickle juice. Brine AND cook at the same time!

/don't actually try that please
//I just made it up
///it's probably gross


My sister loves pickles and she did marinate a chicken breast in pickle juice. Even she agreed it was awful.
 
2012-11-16 04:42:27 AM

rthanu: I hope that you are joking.


Why would I need to joke? Watch the video - he's picking shells out of the eggs (sticks his finger in the bowl at 1:22) and had to be reminded to wash his hands (6:00). Those are factual events.
=Smidge=
 
2012-11-16 06:46:34 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Enormous-Schwanstucker: Mr_Fabulous: It's only 3 of us for Thanksgiving this year, so yeah... we're cooking a chicken. Less waste, better flavor, still goes well with the traditional fixings.

Anyone have a great recipe for roasting a hen? I was just going to use garlic rub on the outside, fresh sage & rosemary on the inside, and onions & carrots in the pan. Better ideas?

I tried a recipe where you separate the skin from the meat with a spoon and stuff it with an herb/butter mixture. Do it carefully to prevent tearing and just the breasts to the legs.
Holy shiat was it tender and juicy. Of course, stuff the cavity as needed but it penetrates the meat rather than seasoning the skin which kinda prevents it. It really, seriously infuses the meat with whatever herbs and spices you use, plus the butter helps :)

Jacques Pepin has a video on youtube--I think it's Anthony Bourdain's show--that demonstrates deboning a chicken in two minutes. Then you just stuff the hell out of it, roll it up and roast it.

I can't get enough Pepin. I'm still not satisfied.



Oh wow, ok I gotta find that video.
 
2012-11-16 08:32:52 AM
Alton Browns turkey recipe (w/brining) cannot be beat.
 
2012-11-16 10:32:16 AM
get peanut oil. Get turkey. Deep fry turkey in peanut oil. Viola! Great thanksgiving with a nod to the traditional. Bonus points, then deep fry your rolls in that oil.
 
2012-11-16 02:44:27 PM

Smidge204: rthanu: I hope that you are joking.

Why would I need to joke? Watch the video - he's picking shells out of the eggs (sticks his finger in the bowl at 1:22) and had to be reminded to wash his hands (6:00). Those are factual events.
=Smidge=


NotSureIfSerious.jpg

/as in not sure you seriously think your critique is valid.
 
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