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(AZCentral)   Mitt Romney breaks his silence after the crushing election defeat to say Obama won fair and square. Just kidding. He claims the President bribed minorities to vote for him   (azcentral.com) divider line 92
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2012-11-15 01:27:31 AM
25 votes:
"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.
2012-11-15 02:33:13 AM
9 votes:

MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

i45.tinypic.com
2012-11-15 09:24:05 AM
8 votes:

SevenizGud: neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.

Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.


for you and all the crying GOPers:


I want a government that does something.
I want a social safety net, I want affordable healthcare, if that means the government needs to get involved, fine. I want modern roads and infrastructure, I want our children, all of them, to have access to top notch education, I want tax incentives for American companies to keep manufacturing jobs in America not move them into China. I want collective bargaining rights for our work force. I want clean water/air/soil...you get the idea.

That's the kind of America I want, and it seems most American voters want that too.

You either don't want those things for the country or you don't seem to understand that they cost money. Either way, you had a chance to vote for what you want. You live in a democracy, and you've been out voted.

If a small tax hike is what it takes to move this country in the direction I'd like to see it go is necessary, fine.
Tax them, tax me I get how this works and I'm saying, do it.

I've never needed government assistance, but I'm glad it's there for people who do. I know several people who've used some form of assistance in hard times that, thanks to the help, are productive tax payers right now. Maybe you don't get how that works.

You and yours can cry all you want. You're wrong, and we're moving on.
2012-11-15 02:15:08 AM
7 votes:

MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?


it's called "society".
2012-11-15 07:58:30 AM
6 votes:
And Romney didn't try to bribe the votes of white, rich, upper-class bible thumpers with promises of tax cuts and religion-based politics?

Kay.
2012-11-15 06:42:29 AM
6 votes:
Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week's loss to President Barack Obama in part to "gifts" the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women, according to media reports.

Translation: He meant every word of that 47% conversation.
2012-11-15 09:14:36 AM
5 votes:

morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.


I'd like to point out that more than half the country categorically denied Romney. They didn't just deny him the presidency, they rejected him wholly as an attempted leader, knowing he was lying, outright and completely, about many of his claims, and promises. They smelled his BS like a fart in the car.

The residents of this nation stood up at once and said: No! Not yours! You can't have it. Those that were opposed to his competitor couldn't even be bothered to leave the house to vote for him. He was such an unsaleable force in the political environment, his own kind left him forsaken! That's very telling about a candidate when he can't even whip up his own base, because they know he's full of it.

So, no, we're not spiking the ball. We're congratulating each other on a job well done and you come into OUR party like a drunk ex-wife and start complaining and whining. We politely asked you to leave, but, no you have something to say, you want to ruin it for us. Well, I'm sorry. We're not going to put up with it.

Not only is your candidate a loser, you are, as well. You backed a loser. There are some on your side of the fence that were cogent about the election and stayed home, knowing Romney was a loser, but you had to go balls deep, parade around, showing your ass and making a fool out of yourself during the process. So, when we simply show you how egregiously moronic you were, you fall back on the tried and true Right Wing platform of playing the victim.

Now, mind you, we were gonna let it go, but since you Republicans like to talk about rape so much and how it's not a big deal, we all decided in a secret forum only for Lefties to verbally rape you and your kind every time you decide to show up with your stupid persecution complex. You want to be the victim? You got it buddy! I got you flagged and will dog you and your victim complex for the next four years, lest you forget exactly how bad your candidate was, and how badly he lost.

For the next four years, we will treat you EXACTLY as you've been acting: As victims, and as such, we are going to victimize you every chance we get. We don't like it, but we want you to fit in. You chose the role, not us, so quit crying about your position. It was your decision to be the victim, not ours, we're just more than happy to accommodate you.
2012-11-15 08:53:57 AM
5 votes:

SevenizGud: Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives

Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


You aren't. Like the rest of us, you are dependent upon human society for your very survival.
If society had not supported and protected you in a myriad of ways throuhout your life - you would not exist.
Under pre-civilization conditions, your soft, coddled, civilized ass would last about 15 seconds.
If you were solely responsible for yourself, you would be long dead - if you'd ever been born at all.
2012-11-15 08:50:09 AM
5 votes:

It's easy to just swipe at Mitt, and apparently the voyage from magnanimous concession to biatchy loser is a short one, but Romney's points are extremely weak.

College loan rates: Obama signed a bill passed by Congress that prevented what would have been a doubling in college loan interest rates due to the structure of the laws that set up that system. Nobody wanted that, left or right, which is why it managed to pass through Congress in an election year.
Contraceptive coverage: This isn't a giveaway of any sort. It says that if you offer health insurance, you need to cover contraception. That means you pay for it in your health insurance. It's as "free" as the "free" drink you get in your McDonalds combo meal.
Keeping college-aged people on their parents' health insurance: Again, not free. Mom and dad are simply allowed to keep paying for young adult kids on their plan as they establish themselves.
Health care for the poor: Yes, finally we get to something the government will be subsidizing. But we're also going to be keeping the poor & indigent out of emergency rooms and other emergent care facilities by keeping them healthy in the first place. In the end it'll be more efficient and people overall will be healthier. What do you want - to give them free check-ups and basic healthcare now, or wait until they're at the emergency room with expensive major problems?


Listening to a guy with hundreds of millions be so upset - nay, angry - that poor families with kids making $20-35K might be getting regular health care the rest of us are paying for is galling. How do you tell someone their kid can't get regular check-ups because they're poor and you don't want your government to help them? How does he look at his own cute little grandkids and think "eh, those other poor kids that aren't ours, fark 'em." How does that even begin to square with his faith?
2012-11-15 08:40:48 AM
5 votes:
Some Adam Smith quotes for the Derpers:

"Whenever the legislature attempts to regulate the differences between masters and their workmen, its counsellors are always the masters. When the regulation, therefore, is in favor of the workmen, it is always just and equitable; but it is sometimes otherwise when in favor of the masters."

"The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."


"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind. "

"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expence, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion. "

"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship, the rich and powerful, and to despise or, at least, neglect persons of poor and mean conditions, though necessary both to establish and to maintain the distinction of ranks and the order of society, is, at the same time, the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments."
2012-11-15 07:37:47 AM
5 votes:
Considering taxpayers could have covered healthcare for ten families with what they had to pay to subsidize your goddamn ballerina horse, I cordially invite you to go f*ck yourself, Little Lord Mittleroy.
2012-11-15 02:44:00 AM
5 votes:

MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society


yes the elderly and the infirm are indeed part of society.


MeinRS6: so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


well that is what class warfare is, segmentating society into separate groups.
2012-11-15 09:26:22 AM
4 votes:
What I find most interesting, and what I haven't heard a lot of commentators mention, is that this is essentially a restatement of the 47% line, albeit with a few more Americans included. We spent the whole election trying to figure out what was the "real Mitt" and it turns out it was 47% Mitt. The one and only thing you can count on with Romney is his genuine contempt for the average American.

And he learned nothing. He probably does think that one of the reasons he lost is because he got CAUGHT making the 47% speech, not because the speech reflected something fundamental about him that was both completely transparent and overwhelmingly distasteful.

Thanks for reminding us that we made the right decision, Mitt. I genuinely hope we never hear from you again. Go live your toxic life and leave us alone.
2012-11-15 08:02:28 AM
4 votes:
Just for a reality check, I'm not even going to address the basic lie that the President "gave free stuff" to minorities. Here is a short, incomplete list of free stuff Romney promised.

Free stuff for young people: Increase spending on pell grants/student loans.
Free heathcare via the emergency room.
Free stuff for seniors: Increase spending on Medicare (because Obamacare cut it!).
Free stuff for military contractors because of increase spending on the Military.
Free stuff for the 1%: Reduced taxes
Free stuff for corporations: Reduce taxes.
Free stuff for oil companies: remove 'expensive' regulations/government fees.

Etc....
2012-11-15 07:49:10 AM
4 votes:

log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.


These people literally do not believe in "society". They think that human civilization is just a random aggregation of seperate and disparate individuals, and that they themselves exist above and apart from it. They honestly believe that if you dumped them and a bunch of other, like-minded sociopaths on an island somewhere, they'd build New York city - with no outside help.
You can't argue with a mental illness.
2012-11-15 07:41:24 AM
4 votes:
Heh... He still doesn't get it.

Romney showed the American people what he thought of them when he called 47% of them takers.

The GOP and its flunkies seem to be operating under the delusion that only Republicans work hard and everyone else is a "taker"... Just look at some of the ridiculous things that were said the other day at the Republican Governors conference.

Now that the election is over and Romney's ideas have been soundly rejected he's not even trying to hide his contempt for the poor and middle classes.

He was an entitled, smug asshole when he was Governor here in the Commonwealth and he's still an entitled, smug asshole... But now we can add loser to that.

fark you, Mitt.
2012-11-15 03:30:17 AM
4 votes:
Mittens might be a pompous prevaricating bloviator, but I do have to admit that he is a soulless, heartless, amoral douchebag who only cares about the fattening of his own wallet. And now he's just being a whiney little biatch.
2012-11-15 03:30:10 AM
4 votes:
Aren't we past this Derp? I seem to recall we had an election a week or so ago, and that one party did pretty damn well for itself? That party holds the Presidency and gained seats the Senate, which they also control? Yeah.

Time for the Republicans to sit down at the table and stop whining. They spent the last four years doing everything they could to stop Obama from getting re-elected, while ignoring the problems that face this nation. Grow up, get to the table, and start doing the job we voters elected you to do!

And as for those who are upset cause your party lost, you need to grow up, too. Get over it, stop whining about blaming others. Your guy was a horrible candidate, who thought insulting half the country was a good strategy for winning an election. Seriously?
2012-11-15 02:46:34 AM
4 votes:

MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


Nobody contributes nothing. Those who don't pay federal income tax certainly do pay other taxes.

Plus - as someone who pays taxes (I'm currently in the 28% federal tax bracket), I certainly don't begrudge helping pay for healthcare for someone who is trying to raise a family on a fourth of my income. They need all the help they can get. I don't envy them at all, even if they do have a lower tax rate.
2012-11-15 02:44:45 AM
4 votes:
2012-11-15 02:24:23 AM
4 votes:

MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.
2012-11-15 01:31:19 AM
4 votes:
This just in: the King of the Douchebags is a douchebag
2012-11-15 09:24:51 AM
3 votes:
Welp, anyone who thought this election might serve as a wake up call to the Republican Party can let go of that dream because it's simply not going to happen. On one hand, my inner four year old is cheering because "ha ha Republicans are too stupid to figure out why they lost and take corrective measures, so we're going to win even bigger in 2016." But my inner adult counters with "but that means America has to do without a sensible opposition party for the foreseeable future. That's not a good thing." We (America and Democrats) need a sensible opposition party to temper the excesses of the party in power, to craft compromise legislation that makes more than just one side happy, to bring alternative ideas to the table (sorry GOP, "no!" is not an alternative idea).

This is how it's going to be until that third party comes along.
2012-11-15 08:41:03 AM
3 votes:

Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


Yeah.. Here is something Adam Smith said pertinent to this conversation:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
2012-11-15 08:04:48 AM
3 votes:

EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

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No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states


No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.
2012-11-15 07:58:24 AM
3 votes:

Polyhazard: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages.

Apparently, the people scrubbing the toilets of the upper class contribute nothing to society, and do not deserve medical care. They should have thought of that before they chose toilet cleaning over law school, I guess.


Don't forget the retired - we are also "leeches". Sure, we worked our asses off all our lives, and paid into the funds that support us - but what have we done for you lately, right?
And don't forget children - those nasty little parasites need to be put to work in textile mills, the bloodsuckers.
And then of course, there's the disbled. I mean, what good is a cripple? Let 'em starve.
Good old "conservative" family values, yo.
2012-11-15 07:11:06 AM
3 votes:
The best part of this election was watching self-entitled whining conservatives get smoked out in the open. Usually they're better at hiding their true nature.

I wish Obama really were going to enact real tax reform; return to the 70% bracket for asshats like Mitt, AND change the tax code to hit his dividend income.

These "screw you I got mine" guys have had a free ride living in this country for far too long.
2012-11-15 06:41:34 AM
3 votes:
But it was okay to bribe Massachusetts voters with RomneyCare?
2012-11-15 12:47:33 PM
2 votes:
But you know, all this shouting about food stamps and welfare queens is missing the point.

The point is that Mitt Romney really believes this stuff---he was caught on camera telling us what he believed---and then he went on national TV and lied to us that he wasn't really like that. As soon as it didn't matter anymore, he goes right back to saying that half the country are moochers who are bribed into voting for liberals.

Of course he's going to say that's why he lost the election, because that's what he really believes. Of course, there's another explanation for why he lost: he called half the country a bunch of welfare queens, and could not convincingly lie that he didn't believe this. This last remark just confirms that the voters were right about him. 

And really, it's quite rational to vote against someone who holds half of your population in such contempt. I mean, why would he even want to be their president?
2012-11-15 10:01:45 AM
2 votes:

SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.


Let me make you understand something. Different amounts of money mean different things to different people.

$2,500 seems like not very much to you.

To me... Well, I would eat through your torso for $2,500.
2012-11-15 09:41:22 AM
2 votes:

SevenizGud: Philip Francis Queeg: I would imagine that the Romney boys voted for their father.

I had no idea the Romney boys were considered poor.


We were discussing generation of people who have ever worked. NEVER. Here's what those kind of leeches look like..

thefamily.com

Aren't lazy mooches like these folks disgusting?
2012-11-15 09:22:02 AM
2 votes:

SevenizGud: If there's anything we've learned, it's to remove any incentive to succeed, and to reward people for sitting on their ass and/or being stupid.


Conservative economics in a nutshell. The poor will work harder if we give them less and the rich will work harder if we give them more.
2012-11-15 09:11:24 AM
2 votes:
Heh... I love the message the GOP is taking from this ass whooping is that they don't need to "moderate" or change their regressive, constipated views and policies; they just need to repackage and rebrand them and all those demographics they lost badly with will flock to them.

Really, I love it. Please... Proceed.
2012-11-15 08:44:20 AM
2 votes:
It pleases me to know that Mitt's loss is going to burn, unrelentingly, like a cinder in his mind every day for the rest of his life. What a horrible human being. Let him suffer.
2012-11-15 08:31:11 AM
2 votes:
It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.
2012-11-15 08:30:49 AM
2 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: Romney circa 11/12: The minorities were bribed to vote for Obama!


Romney's too blinkered and cloistered an idiot to see the deep racism in that statement. Non-whites don't vote by considering their wider best interests and that of their families, they vote for free-Walmart days. Not being smart enough to keep those thoughts to his golf club buddies reaffirms his complete lack of qualities for presidency, something the citizens of London, for example, already understand. America dodge a bullet on that one.
2012-11-15 08:30:07 AM
2 votes:
Mitt promised to cut my taxes 20%, increase military spending, let me take my SS money and invest it in the stock market so I could make millions for my retirement, eliminate the parts of Obamacare I don't like, but keep the parts of Obamacare I did like, not reduce or eliminate any government programs I liked, including education, add 12 million jobs, and do all the above by balancing the budget. If I was willing to be bought by a politician making promises to give me stuff without a means to pay for it, I would have voted Romney in a heartbeat.
2012-11-15 08:30:04 AM
2 votes:

Hydra: Obama promised a bunch of free stuff if you voted for him. Political bribery or not, call it what you will, but that's what he did. It's been an inherent flaw in democracies for politicians to promise to give away to the masses more free stuff (which must, of course, first be taken from someone else in the population - a minority which everyone can scapegoat and no one will care about, like rich people).

Every one of you people commenting in this thread enjoy a standard of living your ancestors barely 100 years ago could ever dream of, yet you cry on and on about how the rich are fleecing you when (excluding rent seekers - a.k.a. political cronies who corrupt the market through government intervention to extract economic rents - i.e. most of Obama's wealthy backers) you can only become rich in the private sector by producing the best good or providing the best service for the lowest cost to make consumers (i.e. all of us) better off. Mutually beneficial exchange happens all the time in a market economy, and thieves rarely ever last long enough to become massively wealthy (without the help of government cronies, of course). Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?

/mercantilists, the lot of you


max_pooper: No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.

Curious - which counties? Without looking them up, I'm assuming the ones around Palo Alto, San Francisco, Detroit, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, and other heavily blue areas where groupthink abounds? Some of the richest counties are the ones surrounding DC alone - sounds to me like they were a bunch of cronies who got rich by buying off the right people to give themselves perks. Go ahead and keep trying to draw your tenuous correlations to support your broadbrushing statement, and keep rooting for your political football team, though. Rich people who vote for Obama are OBVIOUSLY all unselfish while r ...


Look at this. Look at this and laugh.
2012-11-15 07:54:21 AM
2 votes:
Poor Tat....er Mein is just butthurt that it's going to be more difficult to get his war with Iran.
2012-11-15 07:51:16 AM
2 votes:

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages.

Apparently, the people scrubbing the toilets of the upper class contribute nothing to society, and do not deserve medical care. They should have thought of that before they chose toilet cleaning over law school, I guess.
2012-11-15 07:50:33 AM
2 votes:
I'm so very glad this man isn't President.
2012-11-15 02:08:58 AM
2 votes:
How dare people vote for things that will help them!
2012-11-15 11:36:53 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Planet earth to whoever you are. Come in whoever you are.


Reality, dumbass. Planet Reality. Universal access to birth control, for example, has been instrumental in reducing unwanted pregnancies among the poorest and directly attributable to the dramatic lowering of crime rates a generation later. Yes, growing up in hopeless poverty contributes to crime. The world isn't the clean and comfortable linear system which quasi-religious worshipers of simple concepts like all-powerful Invisible Hands would have you believe. Put down the Rush cartoons.
2012-11-15 11:05:27 AM
1 votes:

SDRR: So long Mitt, please ride off into obscurity now.


i.huffpost.com
2012-11-15 10:14:26 AM
1 votes:

Goodfella: what the hell is a mit romney?


It has taken nearly seven years to find an answer to that question. But now it can be stated quite definitively, Mitt Romney is a loser.
2012-11-15 10:03:48 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Enough to not work.


There's about 4.3M recipients of TANF benefits, 3/4 of those are children (effing freeloaders, amirite?).

That leaves us with about 1M adults who receive TANF benefits, less than one-half of 1% of the adult population.

According to HHS, in any given month, about half of all TANF recipients live in a family unit with at least one person who is employed, but those earnings are so low they are still eligible for a small amount of benefits.

Nearly 30% of TANF recipients live in a family with at least one person who works a full-time job, but again their income level is at or below the poverty level.

Half of all persons who enter the TANF rolls and begin to receive cash benefits from the program will exit the rolls within 4 months, three of every four TANF entrants will exit within a year, and only about 1 in 6 will receive benefits for 20 months or longer.

Your idea that people are living off of TANF benefits generation after generation is simply not true. But you'll have to ignore that (which you've clearly chosen to do) if you want to continue to scapegoat welfare recipients (3/4 of which are children) as the source of all of our fiscal woes.
2012-11-15 10:03:48 AM
1 votes:

The Why Not Guy: Welp, anyone who thought this election might serve as a wake up call to the Republican Party can let go of that dream because it's simply not going to happen. On one hand, my inner four year old is cheering because "ha ha Republicans are too stupid to figure out why they lost and take corrective measures, so we're going to win even bigger in 2016." But my inner adult counters with "but that means America has to do without a sensible opposition party for the foreseeable future. That's not a good thing." We (America and Democrats) need a sensible opposition party to temper the excesses of the party in power, to craft compromise legislation that makes more than just one side happy, to bring alternative ideas to the table (sorry GOP, "no!" is not an alternative idea).

This is how it's going to be until that third party comes along.


Democrats have moved so far to the center and center-right that they are functioning as both parties right now. As a supporter of "single payer" health care reform, I've got plenty to not be happy with under Obamacare.

But it was still better than the "let everyone but me die so I can get another tax cut" plan the 1% Right on FOX was proposing for the country.
2012-11-15 10:02:53 AM
1 votes:
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2012-11-15 09:55:21 AM
1 votes:
Man am I ever getting a lot of mileage out of this one.


Remember kids:

Minorities voting in their best interests: BAD

Rich whites voting in their best interests: GOOD
2012-11-15 09:54:28 AM
1 votes:
Of course repugs want taxpayers to pay for a huge and wasteful military so we can slaughter brown people for no coherent reason, which is much better.

News flash you farktards, it will now come down to a choice between healthcare or the huge military you love. Guess which one is going to win out. You're right to be butthurt over this election, the full meaning won't be clear for a few years, but your current brand of petty hatred and war mongering for votes is almost over.
2012-11-15 09:49:28 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: If you take advantage of all the various Uncle Sucker programs it comes out to about $22K/year. So why would you even bother doing something other than sitting on your ass down on filth-and-muck end of the ladder?


You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life. Congratulations! And, I honestly hope you never have to. Things you cannot have while on Social Programs: Mortgage Payments (if you outright own the house, you are told to sell it and live off the equity instead), Car Loans (they tell you to sell it and take the earnings to buy a car outright), a full-time or part-time job (taking home more than $100 pre-tax wages in a week disqualifies you for many social programs).

But, let's see what you do get: $300 a week, plus $80 in food stamps.

So, Mr. High And Mighty, go ahead and live like a welfare queen, you can only spend $300 cash a week (cumulative to $1200 a month for all bills), and $80 in food. If you have kids, we can add another $40-60 per kid per week. Remember, that Food Stamps only work for food, you can't go spend it elsewhere.

Go ahead, come back in a month and tell us how great the Welfare system is and Food Stamps is living high on the hog.

(psst, now's the time where you make excuses about not having to do it because you're better prepared in life, but can't see the stupidity of your statements.)
2012-11-15 09:37:51 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less

How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?


Because being poor farking sucks.
2012-11-15 09:34:42 AM
1 votes:

CPennypacker: SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.

When you get $675, $50 less is HUGE


See how the argument changes? First it's "They're all leeches who pay nothing and just want free stuff," now it's "Well, they don't pay ENOUGH taxes."
2012-11-15 09:29:41 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.


Yet oddly enough rich people need them to stay affluent in order to buy products and services.
2012-11-15 09:27:31 AM
1 votes:
Let's oversimplify the electoral process and see if we can find a problem. Set complexity level to 'Flintsones'.

Say Fred needs 50.001% to 'win' an election as Grand Poobah of the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos. Unfortunately, he's effectively alienated 47% of the members when an angry rant over the wall with Barney becomes public knowledge throughout Bedrock.

This means the Flintstone/Rubble ticket must win 94% of the remaining votes if they ever hope to wear the sacred hat.

Fred's campaign strategy is to focus mainly on the interests of 20% of the members.

Who is likely to win - Fred Flintstone or incumbent Poobah Barock O'BamBam?
2012-11-15 09:25:39 AM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: rufus-t-firefly: Or just go with Paul Ryan for his next Ayn Rand grave-humping.

People need to stop thinking that Ayn would have liked Ryan. She had some prickly positions, but she hated rich loafers, too.


She hated practically everybody - she was mentally ill. A classic paranoid, in fact - both grandiose and persecuted - like the the right wingers who to be victims of the evil liberal welfare state.
2012-11-15 09:21:54 AM
1 votes:
This man needs to be nowhere near the reigns of power
2012-11-15 09:19:06 AM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?

it's called "society".

Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.
2012-11-15 09:01:37 AM
1 votes:
Always. The. Victim.
2012-11-15 08:53:23 AM
1 votes:
So if offering healthcare to low-income citizens is a "gift," then what the fark do you call a 20% tax cut?
2012-11-15 08:52:30 AM
1 votes:
Boy oh boy did we ever dodge a bullet this election. Can you imagine this douchnozzle as president?!?!?
2012-11-15 08:51:16 AM
1 votes:

neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.


Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.
2012-11-15 08:49:38 AM
1 votes:

Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives


Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?
2012-11-15 08:48:00 AM
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Yeah, because letting people keep some of their income is the same as giving them stuff.

Liberal logic right there, ladies and germ


Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.
2012-11-15 08:41:36 AM
1 votes:
Meanwhile, Tagg was gathering his family friends together under a private-equity fund in anticipation of the taxpayer-funded handouts they would be able to grift under a Romney presidency. The fact that all Romney has to defend himself is projection comes as no surprise. It's all he or the GOP has ever had.
2012-11-15 08:38:51 AM
1 votes:
Why is he even still talking? Certainly he's out of the politics game for good.
2012-11-15 08:37:15 AM
1 votes:

Hydra: theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.

It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.


Conservatives did not really provide much proofs to the contrary, this election year.
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM
1 votes:

sprawl15: What a ballgargling shiatcandidate.


Now now, to his credit when he lost he didn't call in the lawyers. He didn't turn it into a clusterfark in the only real and true way that someone of his wealth knows how. I honestly gave it a 50/50 chance that it was going to go that way no matter what.

But he didn't. And it pains me to say it, but that is to his credit.

However with a man of such extreme hubris I fear to say that he's not going away, or at least not without some parting shots. It's mostly just impotent rage over the fact that he now holds no public office for all that he spent and the general consensus is that he us largely unwanted for a gig like that in any state.

Pay it no mind. It's Nixon's "you won't have me to kick around anymore" moment.
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM
1 votes:

skinink: I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.


The Democratic side of me agrees, but the human side of me thinks it must really suck to be poor or a minority and see one of the two major political parties openly calling you a leech and acting like you deserve to die.
2012-11-15 08:24:19 AM
1 votes:
So much for cuddly, moderate Mitt. Yet ANOTHER lie that motherfarker tried to foist on the public in the waning days of the election. Republicans should be ashamed of nominating this tool. One of the most empty-calorie candidates they have run in a long time.
2012-11-15 08:23:48 AM
1 votes:
hypervocal.com

The guy paid a 0% Tax rate for 10 years.

Your welcome Mitt.
2012-11-15 08:23:30 AM
1 votes:
Politicians represent the interests of voters, not the interests of taxpayers. They are not employees. Somebody who pays a larger amount of taxes is not entitled to more say in government than somebody who pays less. So if African Americans, Hispanics and young women vote in quantity, any sensible politician will see they get something from the government.

But because they don't pay as much to the government as rich people, whatever they get is labeled a "gift" - which is very narrow-minded.
2012-11-15 08:20:29 AM
1 votes:

Tarl3k: To everybody who bothered responding to Mein:

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My Audi RS6. That's what I think of when I see his screen name. Also this image turned up under my Audi RS6 in google.

www.motorstown.com
2012-11-15 08:17:52 AM
1 votes:
You know after this election I was sort of concerned that the Conservatives in this country would re-group, reflect on their loss and get their act together. The would support comprehensiveness immigration reform, move a little (but not substantiated) toward the center on taxes, and use that strategy to outflank Obama and stage a comeback. It would be the death knell of my lulz, the butthurt would dry up and all my entertainment would dissipate.

But the past week has made me giddy. If anything the butthurt is increasing at an exponential level now. MORE BENGHAZI!!!! THEIR WAS A CONSPIRACY TO GET TO PETRAUES SO HE WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT HE KNOWS!!!! OBAMA WON BY GIVING AWAY FREE STUFF TO THOSE HORRIBLE MINORITIES AND WOMEN!!!! CLOSE THE BORDER!!!!! NO TAX HIKES FOR THE RICH EVEN IF IT MEANS RAISING TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!!

You guys really are coming unhinged. It's glorious.
2012-11-15 08:15:27 AM
1 votes:

westfork: Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.


I got one of these!
www.webeclubbin.com
Ok, not really, I bought it. I haven't opened it because I have a black thumb when it comes to plants.
2012-11-15 08:13:48 AM
1 votes:
The GOP is as wrong about the reasons they lost as they are arrogant and insulting.

They can't even pretend to give a shiat about anything but the interests of rich white christians, and at the same time absolutely shiat on whole segments of voters. What do they do when this costs them an election?

They attack the very voting blocks that they will need in the next election.
Fellas...it's not them, it's you.

If you guys can't turn this around soon you're all done.

sidenote...watched Newt's interview on Colbert....I'm shocked to say that he actually seemed to be introspective and blamed the GOP directly and not the people who didn't vote for them. Must be a con of some sort, I know, but still I was surprised.
2012-11-15 08:11:30 AM
1 votes:
Thousands of dollars to lower and middle class families for health care? GIFTS!

Billions of dollars in tax cuts to the highest earners? NOT GIFTS!
2012-11-15 08:10:03 AM
1 votes:

Sum Dum Gai: MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

Nobody contributes nothing. Those who don't pay federal income tax certainly do pay other taxes.

Plus - as someone who pays taxes (I'm currently in the 28% federal tax bracket), I certainly don't begrudge helping pay for healthcare for someone who is trying to raise a family on a fourth of my income. They need all the help they can get. I don't envy them at all, even if they do have a lower tax rate.




I'm in the same boat/bracket (I think). I've had friends and family that needed the support at times. I've no problem paying into the system in case I ever need it, too.

/But, according to my office-mates I only voted for Obama because I "want stuff."
2012-11-15 08:03:09 AM
1 votes:

mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.


They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive".
2012-11-15 08:02:46 AM
1 votes:

SuperT: if anyone out there in the highest tax bracket wants to trade income with me, so you'll be in the 0-15% bracket (depending on deductions that you farkers want to get rid of) please, step forward. I know you are more scared of the tax boogeyman than I am. Also, I live in the downtown area of a decently sized city.

what's that? you'd rather kill yourself than live in a modest home for just under 30,000 a year? yea go fark yourself.


That's the thing that kills me about the whining coming from some of the wealthier citizens in this country...

I've never been anything other than lower-middle class, same as my parents and grandparents. I'll happily pay higher taxes if it means my income is pushing me into those higher brackets.

I'd love to see some of these rugged captains of industry and "job creators" make do on what the wife and I live on...


Romney is the type of asshole that makes you understand why dragging people like him out of their homes and loping their heads off in a public square seemed like a good idea at certain times throughout history.
2012-11-15 07:58:43 AM
1 votes:
I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.
2012-11-15 07:50:25 AM
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Obama should have used this for his motto: You want to go vote one day, or go to work every day?

They got the message anyway.


0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
2012-11-15 07:41:39 AM
1 votes:
"I'm free to drop the mask now. Let them see the real Mitt," seems to be the gist.

Uh, Mitt? We already did. You already made this stuff perfectly clear in the 47% tape. But hell, it was clear before that.

This is the first time you've hit the news since your loss, and it's excuse-mongering that repeats the vile shiat you repudiated only a few weeks ago.

Mitt, you have exceeded W in the miserable failure department. From now on, flipflops will be called foot mittens.
2012-11-15 07:38:46 AM
1 votes:
And promising to slash the tax rate for the top 1% wasn't a bribe?
2012-11-15 07:37:22 AM
1 votes:
Annnnd THIS is why you loose.

/ I'm beginning to think the "R" stands for retarded...
2012-11-15 07:34:33 AM
1 votes:

EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

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No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states


You said something dumb and should feel ashamed.
2012-11-15 04:04:57 AM
1 votes:
"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.


I'd like for him to have to pay 30% of his income on health care per year. Three million a year ought to do it.

/out of touch douchebag is still an out of touch douchebag 
//i'll bring the gasoline and matches
2012-11-15 03:10:14 AM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: It's "class warfare" to point out the facts?


no. I said it's class warfare to divide society into separate groups. like calling the elderly "leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take".

MeinRS6: Whatever. I would never argue with a lib about what class warfare is, as you guys are the experts at that.


so you agree with my definition then since I'm an expert on the subject? good.
2012-11-15 02:47:49 AM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

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Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.


No kiddo ... it's actually more douchey ...
2012-11-15 02:44:13 AM
1 votes:

MeinRS6: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.


You lost. Deal with it.
2012-11-15 02:32:41 AM
1 votes:

westfork: Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.


They are white. White people don't get handouts. They reap rewards.
2012-11-15 02:15:56 AM
1 votes:

log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.


You mean a family in or near poverty benefits from not having to spend 30-40% of their income on healthcare? The devil you say!
 
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