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2012-11-15 01:06:21 AM  
Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.
 
2012-11-15 01:27:31 AM  
"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.
 
2012-11-15 01:31:09 AM  

log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.


I know. Republicans could have TOTALLY gotten in on that healthcare mojo but NOOOOOoooo...becuase then Obama would take the credit and he's blah so we can't have THAT. Better to just tell people their miserable wretches who don't deserve nice things like a prescription drug plan. That's much better.
 
2012-11-15 01:31:19 AM  
This just in: the King of the Douchebags is a douchebag
 
2012-11-15 02:08:58 AM  
How dare people vote for things that will help them!
 
2012-11-15 02:11:55 AM  

bingethinker: How dare people vote for things that will help them!


And who pays for those things?
 
2012-11-15 02:15:08 AM  

MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?


it's called "society".
 
2012-11-15 02:15:56 AM  

log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.


You mean a family in or near poverty benefits from not having to spend 30-40% of their income on healthcare? The devil you say!
 
2012-11-15 02:22:09 AM  

log_jammin: MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?

it's called "society".


Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.
 
2012-11-15 02:24:23 AM  

MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.
 
2012-11-15 02:32:41 AM  

westfork: Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.


They are white. White people don't get handouts. They reap rewards.
 
2012-11-15 02:33:13 AM  

MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-15 02:37:57 AM  

log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.


But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.
 
2012-11-15 02:40:02 AM  

dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]


Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.
 
2012-11-15 02:44:00 AM  

MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society


yes the elderly and the infirm are indeed part of society.


MeinRS6: so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


well that is what class warfare is, segmentating society into separate groups.
 
2012-11-15 02:44:13 AM  

MeinRS6: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.


You lost. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-15 02:44:45 AM  
 
2012-11-15 02:46:34 AM  

MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


Nobody contributes nothing. Those who don't pay federal income tax certainly do pay other taxes.

Plus - as someone who pays taxes (I'm currently in the 28% federal tax bracket), I certainly don't begrudge helping pay for healthcare for someone who is trying to raise a family on a fourth of my income. They need all the help they can get. I don't envy them at all, even if they do have a lower tax rate.
 
2012-11-15 02:47:49 AM  

MeinRS6: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.


No kiddo ... it's actually more douchey ...
 
2012-11-15 03:02:00 AM  

log_jammin: MeinRS6: so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

well that is what class warfare is, segmentating society into separate groups.


lulz

It's "class warfare" to point out the facts?

Whatever. I would never argue with a lib about what class warfare is, as you guys are the experts at that.
 
2012-11-15 03:10:14 AM  

MeinRS6: It's "class warfare" to point out the facts?


no. I said it's class warfare to divide society into separate groups. like calling the elderly "leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take".

MeinRS6: Whatever. I would never argue with a lib about what class warfare is, as you guys are the experts at that.


so you agree with my definition then since I'm an expert on the subject? good.
 
2012-11-15 03:30:10 AM  
Aren't we past this Derp? I seem to recall we had an election a week or so ago, and that one party did pretty damn well for itself? That party holds the Presidency and gained seats the Senate, which they also control? Yeah.

Time for the Republicans to sit down at the table and stop whining. They spent the last four years doing everything they could to stop Obama from getting re-elected, while ignoring the problems that face this nation. Grow up, get to the table, and start doing the job we voters elected you to do!

And as for those who are upset cause your party lost, you need to grow up, too. Get over it, stop whining about blaming others. Your guy was a horrible candidate, who thought insulting half the country was a good strategy for winning an election. Seriously?
 
2012-11-15 03:30:17 AM  
Mittens might be a pompous prevaricating bloviator, but I do have to admit that he is a soulless, heartless, amoral douchebag who only cares about the fattening of his own wallet. And now he's just being a whiney little biatch.
 
2012-11-15 04:04:57 AM  
"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.


I'd like for him to have to pay 30% of his income on health care per year. Three million a year ought to do it.

/out of touch douchebag is still an out of touch douchebag 
//i'll bring the gasoline and matches
 
2012-11-15 06:41:34 AM  
But it was okay to bribe Massachusetts voters with RomneyCare?
 
2012-11-15 06:42:29 AM  
Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week's loss to President Barack Obama in part to "gifts" the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women, according to media reports.

Translation: He meant every word of that 47% conversation.
 
2012-11-15 06:47:50 AM  

dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]


No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states
 
2012-11-15 06:54:15 AM  
Way to go, Mittens.

www.sogoodblog.com

On that stupidity.
 
2012-11-15 07:11:06 AM  
The best part of this election was watching self-entitled whining conservatives get smoked out in the open. Usually they're better at hiding their true nature.

I wish Obama really were going to enact real tax reform; return to the 70% bracket for asshats like Mitt, AND change the tax code to hit his dividend income.

These "screw you I got mine" guys have had a free ride living in this country for far too long.
 
2012-11-15 07:34:08 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


What does Anne Romney have to do with this?
 
2012-11-15 07:34:33 AM  

EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states


You said something dumb and should feel ashamed.
 
2012-11-15 07:35:03 AM  
Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week's loss to President Barack Obama in part to "gifts" the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women, according to media reports.

And yet another step closer to a Republican official coming out and saying 'Mussolini was right.'
 
2012-11-15 07:37:22 AM  
Annnnd THIS is why you loose.

/ I'm beginning to think the "R" stands for retarded...
 
2012-11-15 07:37:40 AM  
So is this how Romney won in MA? Or is he still not allowed to talk about his greatest achievement as governor?
 
2012-11-15 07:37:47 AM  
Considering taxpayers could have covered healthcare for ten families with what they had to pay to subsidize your goddamn ballerina horse, I cordially invite you to go f*ck yourself, Little Lord Mittleroy.
 
2012-11-15 07:38:45 AM  
stagevu.com
 
2012-11-15 07:38:46 AM  
And promising to slash the tax rate for the top 1% wasn't a bribe?
 
2012-11-15 07:39:30 AM  
He said this about blacks, Hispanics and young women. Also known as 3 of the groups that the Republican party went out of their way to demonize this election cycle. It's a wonder that these groups didn't vote for him.
 
2012-11-15 07:39:40 AM  
You know, a government that doesn't serve its people, is a bad thing.
 
2012-11-15 07:40:01 AM  
To everybody who bothered responding to Mein:

us4.memecdn.com
 
2012-11-15 07:41:24 AM  
Heh... He still doesn't get it.

Romney showed the American people what he thought of them when he called 47% of them takers.

The GOP and its flunkies seem to be operating under the delusion that only Republicans work hard and everyone else is a "taker"... Just look at some of the ridiculous things that were said the other day at the Republican Governors conference.

Now that the election is over and Romney's ideas have been soundly rejected he's not even trying to hide his contempt for the poor and middle classes.

He was an entitled, smug asshole when he was Governor here in the Commonwealth and he's still an entitled, smug asshole... But now we can add loser to that.

fark you, Mitt.
 
2012-11-15 07:41:39 AM  
"I'm free to drop the mask now. Let them see the real Mitt," seems to be the gist.

Uh, Mitt? We already did. You already made this stuff perfectly clear in the 47% tape. But hell, it was clear before that.

This is the first time you've hit the news since your loss, and it's excuse-mongering that repeats the vile shiat you repudiated only a few weeks ago.

Mitt, you have exceeded W in the miserable failure department. From now on, flipflops will be called foot mittens.
 
2012-11-15 07:42:57 AM  
FTA: we hadn't anticipated it, and it was very close


Which election is Romney talking about? Can't be 2012.
 
2012-11-15 07:44:35 AM  
Awe... poor Mitt is still in the denial phase...

going to take him a LONG time to get to acceptance at this rate.

/really looking forward to his depression phase
 
2012-11-15 07:46:55 AM  

JohnnyC: Awe... poor Mitt is still in the denial phase...

going to take him a LONG time to get to acceptance at this rate.

/really looking forward to his depression phase


Of course it is. The LDS has prophecied for decades that a Mormon would rise to be president, and Mitt just realized it's not going to be him.
 
2012-11-15 07:47:42 AM  
Obama should have used this for his motto: You want to go vote one day, or go to work every day?

They got the message anyway.
 
2012-11-15 07:48:44 AM  
Hey Republicans:
 
2012-11-15 07:49:10 AM  

log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.


These people literally do not believe in "society". They think that human civilization is just a random aggregation of seperate and disparate individuals, and that they themselves exist above and apart from it. They honestly believe that if you dumped them and a bunch of other, like-minded sociopaths on an island somewhere, they'd build New York city - with no outside help.
You can't argue with a mental illness.
 
2012-11-15 07:50:25 AM  

The Muthaship: Obama should have used this for his motto: You want to go vote one day, or go to work every day?

They got the message anyway.


I live with my mom. Obvious troll is obvious.
 
2012-11-15 07:50:33 AM  
I'm so very glad this man isn't President.
 
2012-11-15 07:50:43 AM  
Preview is your friend. Let's try this again.

Hey Republicans
 
2012-11-15 07:51:16 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages.

Apparently, the people scrubbing the toilets of the upper class contribute nothing to society, and do not deserve medical care. They should have thought of that before they chose toilet cleaning over law school, I guess.
 
2012-11-15 07:53:36 AM  

Polyhazard: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages.

Apparently, the people scrubbing the toilets of the upper class contribute nothing to society, and do not deserve medical care. They should have thought of that before they chose toilet cleaning over law school, I guess.


Or they could have taken Mitt's advice and just asked their parents for money to start a business.
 
2012-11-15 07:53:44 AM  

The Muthaship: Obama should have used this for his motto: You want to go vote one day, or go to work every day?


I got the message. I gave my 2 weeks notice last Wednesday after Obama was elected. W00T!1!1 It's government chese and Obama phones for me.
 
2012-11-15 07:54:21 AM  
Poor Tat....er Mein is just butthurt that it's going to be more difficult to get his war with Iran.
 
2012-11-15 07:55:07 AM  
Jesus, has any major political candidate ever been this much of a sore loser after a loss?

Honestly, at the rate they're going, how long til some GOP official starts encouraging people to take up arms?
 
2012-11-15 07:55:30 AM  
So apparently doing the right thing is "bribing." Good to know.
 
2012-11-15 07:55:47 AM  

Polyhazard: I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages


It's like a reverse big tent strategy. Soon anyone that isn't a billionaire will be suspect, and even amongst billionaires there are liberal plants.

Basically, the next four years will be consumed by the GOP trying to remake our elections so only the corpse of Ronald Reagan gets to vote.
 
2012-11-15 07:57:41 AM  
if anyone out there in the highest tax bracket wants to trade income with me, so you'll be in the 0-15% bracket (depending on deductions that you farkers want to get rid of) please, step forward. I know you are more scared of the tax boogeyman than I am. Also, I live in the downtown area of a decently sized city.

what's that? you'd rather kill yourself than live in a modest home for just under 30,000 a year? yea go fark yourself.
 
2012-11-15 07:58:24 AM  

Polyhazard: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

I like how we've moved the goalposts so that useless leeches now include people who work full time jobs that pay low wages.

Apparently, the people scrubbing the toilets of the upper class contribute nothing to society, and do not deserve medical care. They should have thought of that before they chose toilet cleaning over law school, I guess.


Don't forget the retired - we are also "leeches". Sure, we worked our asses off all our lives, and paid into the funds that support us - but what have we done for you lately, right?
And don't forget children - those nasty little parasites need to be put to work in textile mills, the bloodsuckers.
And then of course, there's the disbled. I mean, what good is a cripple? Let 'em starve.
Good old "conservative" family values, yo.
 
2012-11-15 07:58:30 AM  
And Romney didn't try to bribe the votes of white, rich, upper-class bible thumpers with promises of tax cuts and religion-based politics?

Kay.
 
2012-11-15 07:58:43 AM  
I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.
 
2012-11-15 07:59:20 AM  
Good job Mitt, way to blame others for your failings. That's the GOP way!
 
2012-11-15 07:59:38 AM  
Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.
 
2012-11-15 08:02:28 AM  
Just for a reality check, I'm not even going to address the basic lie that the President "gave free stuff" to minorities. Here is a short, incomplete list of free stuff Romney promised.

Free stuff for young people: Increase spending on pell grants/student loans.
Free heathcare via the emergency room.
Free stuff for seniors: Increase spending on Medicare (because Obamacare cut it!).
Free stuff for military contractors because of increase spending on the Military.
Free stuff for the 1%: Reduced taxes
Free stuff for corporations: Reduce taxes.
Free stuff for oil companies: remove 'expensive' regulations/government fees.

Etc....
 
2012-11-15 08:02:46 AM  

SuperT: if anyone out there in the highest tax bracket wants to trade income with me, so you'll be in the 0-15% bracket (depending on deductions that you farkers want to get rid of) please, step forward. I know you are more scared of the tax boogeyman than I am. Also, I live in the downtown area of a decently sized city.

what's that? you'd rather kill yourself than live in a modest home for just under 30,000 a year? yea go fark yourself.


That's the thing that kills me about the whining coming from some of the wealthier citizens in this country...

I've never been anything other than lower-middle class, same as my parents and grandparents. I'll happily pay higher taxes if it means my income is pushing me into those higher brackets.

I'd love to see some of these rugged captains of industry and "job creators" make do on what the wife and I live on...


Romney is the type of asshole that makes you understand why dragging people like him out of their homes and loping their heads off in a public square seemed like a good idea at certain times throughout history.
 
2012-11-15 08:03:09 AM  

mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.


They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive".
 
2012-11-15 08:04:48 AM  

EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states


No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.
 
2012-11-15 08:07:58 AM  

max_pooper: EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states

No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.


Probably because they realize that the economy being in the shiatter is bad for business. Hard to sell anything when everybody is broke.
 
2012-11-15 08:10:03 AM  

Sum Dum Gai: MeinRS6: But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

Nobody contributes nothing. Those who don't pay federal income tax certainly do pay other taxes.

Plus - as someone who pays taxes (I'm currently in the 28% federal tax bracket), I certainly don't begrudge helping pay for healthcare for someone who is trying to raise a family on a fourth of my income. They need all the help they can get. I don't envy them at all, even if they do have a lower tax rate.


I'm in the same boat/bracket (I think). I've had friends and family that needed the support at times. I've no problem paying into the system in case I ever need it, too.

/But, according to my office-mates I only voted for Obama because I "want stuff."
 
2012-11-15 08:11:30 AM  
Thousands of dollars to lower and middle class families for health care? GIFTS!

Billions of dollars in tax cuts to the highest earners? NOT GIFTS!
 
2012-11-15 08:11:44 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This just in: the King of the Douchebags is a douchebag


You know who else had a problem with 'the minorities'? Once a racist privileged liar, always a racist privileged liar:

"I know that you expected to win, we expected to win, we were disappointed with the result, we hadn't anticipated it, and it was very close but close doesn't count in this business."

'Close'? RMoney just upped his game from ignoring math to ignoring simple arithmetic.
 
2012-11-15 08:12:10 AM  

jso2897: mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.

They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive".


Obama is "divisive" because the right refused to work with him since day 1 of his presidency, and reaffirmed their ambitions in 2010 when they thought their momentum would carry through to today. Because he didn't cave into their every demand, it must mean that he's polarized Washington even more.

Fortunately, their constant blocking of progress was seen for what it was.

There's no grey to them, only black and white. Or I guess red and blue.

I'm assuming you knew that though. Basically, I agree.
 
2012-11-15 08:12:54 AM  
What about promising 12 million jobs and lower taxes for everyone?
 
2012-11-15 08:13:48 AM  
The GOP is as wrong about the reasons they lost as they are arrogant and insulting.

They can't even pretend to give a shiat about anything but the interests of rich white christians, and at the same time absolutely shiat on whole segments of voters. What do they do when this costs them an election?

They attack the very voting blocks that they will need in the next election.
Fellas...it's not them, it's you.

If you guys can't turn this around soon you're all done.

sidenote...watched Newt's interview on Colbert....I'm shocked to say that he actually seemed to be introspective and blamed the GOP directly and not the people who didn't vote for them. Must be a con of some sort, I know, but still I was surprised.
 
2012-11-15 08:13:55 AM  

jso2897: mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.

They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive".


Romney and frankly the GOP divides everything. Their basic understanding of the world demands that they have an enemy. While Romney was calling the President "divisive" he would literally divide the country up into "good" and "bad" in the same speech!

For instance this is a short list of places or people Romney used as examples of the 'enemy':

Chicago
California
Washington
47% of the American people
Hollywood

These are the only the ones I know of. Imagine if President Obama said something about say Texas like Romney has about Chicago or California?
 
2012-11-15 08:15:27 AM  

westfork: Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.


I got one of these!
www.webeclubbin.com
Ok, not really, I bought it. I haven't opened it because I have a black thumb when it comes to plants.
 
2012-11-15 08:15:45 AM  

log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.


Oh, I know! Pick me! Is it merica?
 
2012-11-15 08:17:52 AM  
You know after this election I was sort of concerned that the Conservatives in this country would re-group, reflect on their loss and get their act together. The would support comprehensiveness immigration reform, move a little (but not substantiated) toward the center on taxes, and use that strategy to outflank Obama and stage a comeback. It would be the death knell of my lulz, the butthurt would dry up and all my entertainment would dissipate.

But the past week has made me giddy. If anything the butthurt is increasing at an exponential level now. MORE BENGHAZI!!!! THEIR WAS A CONSPIRACY TO GET TO PETRAUES SO HE WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT HE KNOWS!!!! OBAMA WON BY GIVING AWAY FREE STUFF TO THOSE HORRIBLE MINORITIES AND WOMEN!!!! CLOSE THE BORDER!!!!! NO TAX HIKES FOR THE RICH EVEN IF IT MEANS RAISING TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!!

You guys really are coming unhinged. It's glorious.
 
2012-11-15 08:18:50 AM  
Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week's loss to President Barack Obama in part to "gifts" the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women

Now, why are you Farkers surprised? 

/what do I mean "you Farkers"?
 
2012-11-15 08:18:54 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


So the guy who's working, paying his fair share, but only making $35k a year, is a leech. Got it. I'll update the Urban Dictionary.
 
2012-11-15 08:19:14 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


I know I'm late to the thread and responding to a troll, but go get farked in the ear.
 
2012-11-15 08:20:02 AM  
Now that he lost I guess there's no point in trying to pretend that you're not a plutocrat who despises most Americans.
 
2012-11-15 08:20:24 AM  
As opposed to the bribes offered to big business to keep tax cuts?
 
2012-11-15 08:20:29 AM  

Tarl3k: To everybody who bothered responding to Mein:

[us4.memecdn.com image 630x701]


My Audi RS6. That's what I think of when I see his screen name. Also this image turned up under my Audi RS6 in google.

www.motorstown.com
 
2012-11-15 08:20:35 AM  
What a ballgargling shiatcandidate.
 
2012-11-15 08:20:36 AM  
Romney circa 02/12: Ya know who are sponges and feeloaders? Minorities. All they want is free stuff, and there's nothing I can do about it, they're just gonna continue to sponge and freeload their entire lives, teach their children to be sponges and freeloaders, there in making it a culture of sponges and freeloaders. As far as I'm concerned, I'd remove all their social programs that they think are entitlements because they breed like rabid ferrets, and let them suffer into oblivion. I think comparing them to rodents and other small creatures that scurry about and breed out of control to become pests is the best analogy I can come up with. No amount of teaching and training is going to change their genetic make up, so why even try?

Romney circa 11/12: The minorities were bribed to vote for Obama!
 
2012-11-15 08:20:52 AM  

hubcity: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

So the guy who's working, paying his fair share, but only making $35k a year, is a leech. Got it. I'll update the Urban Dictionary.


Don't forget to include children, the disabled, and the retired. Sponges, all of 'em.
 
2012-11-15 08:21:58 AM  
I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Romney is a duplicitous, lying douchebag and a huge chunk of the voter block could see right through that, right?

Don't worry, Republicans. You should totally keep calling half the country a bunch of freeloaders and moochers. It's working out great for you so far.
 
2012-11-15 08:22:16 AM  
What, prey tell, are these gifts targeted only to african americans and hispanics? Please elaborate.
 
2012-11-15 08:23:05 AM  

unexplained bacon: sidenote...watched Newt's interview on Colbert....I'm shocked to say that he actually seemed to be introspective and blamed the GOP directly and not the people who didn't vote for them. Must be a con of some sort, I know, but still I was surprised.


Good politicians know that the month after the election is the best time to lay some blame on yourself - it makes you look good and doesn't cost you anything. Newt may be half scrotum, but he's from the older breed that still knew how to politic.
 
2012-11-15 08:23:30 AM  

log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.


What free healthcare?
 
2012-11-15 08:23:30 AM  
Politicians represent the interests of voters, not the interests of taxpayers. They are not employees. Somebody who pays a larger amount of taxes is not entitled to more say in government than somebody who pays less. So if African Americans, Hispanics and young women vote in quantity, any sensible politician will see they get something from the government.

But because they don't pay as much to the government as rich people, whatever they get is labeled a "gift" - which is very narrow-minded.
 
2012-11-15 08:23:36 AM  

theknuckler_33: What, prey tell, are these gifts targeted only to african americans and hispanics? Please elaborate.


Because everyone knows there are no poor whites.
 
2012-11-15 08:23:48 AM  
hypervocal.com

The guy paid a 0% Tax rate for 10 years.

Your welcome Mitt.
 
2012-11-15 08:24:19 AM  
So much for cuddly, moderate Mitt. Yet ANOTHER lie that motherfarker tried to foist on the public in the waning days of the election. Republicans should be ashamed of nominating this tool. One of the most empty-calorie candidates they have run in a long time.
 
2012-11-15 08:25:35 AM  

theknuckler_33: What, prey tell, are these gifts targeted only to african americans and hispanics? Please elaborate.


They get special food stamps that can be used to purchase watermelon, fried chicken, beans, and tacos at steep dicounts.
 
2012-11-15 08:25:43 AM  

theknuckler_33: log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.

What free healthcare?


Also, isn't $35k the median american income? IS Romney calling most of americans... oh yeah, 47%. Nevermind.
 
2012-11-15 08:27:11 AM  
This is why I disagreed so strongly with pundits on election night who were talking about how "sincere" Romney's concession speech was or how it would have been a different race if the guy that gave that speech showed up for the rest of the campaign.

The speech was clearly nothing more than a good chunk of his victory speech with some stuff tacked onto the front about calling the president and congratulating him.

In his heart Romney never conceded. Because why? Unpatriotic douchebag.
 
2012-11-15 08:28:26 AM  
You know, thinking about it, I haven't heard anyone say anything positive about Romney ever, except him and his family. Not even at the RNC, really, even though I didn't watch it all. That's rare. Even Dukakis had some people with a kind word or two.
 
2012-11-15 08:28:31 AM  
Obama promised a bunch of free stuff if you voted for him. Political bribery or not, call it what you will, but that's what he did. It's been an inherent flaw in democracies for politicians to promise to give away to the masses more free stuff (which must, of course, first be taken from someone else in the population - a minority which everyone can scapegoat and no one will care about, like rich people).

Every one of you people commenting in this thread enjoy a standard of living your ancestors barely 100 years ago could ever dream of, yet you cry on and on about how the rich are fleecing you when (excluding rent seekers - a.k.a. political cronies who corrupt the market through government intervention to extract economic rents - i.e. most of Obama's wealthy backers) you can only become rich in the private sector by producing the best good or providing the best service for the lowest cost to make consumers (i.e. all of us) better off. Mutually beneficial exchange happens all the time in a market economy, and thieves rarely ever last long enough to become massively wealthy (without the help of government cronies, of course). Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?

/mercantilists, the lot of you


max_pooper: No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.


Curious - which counties? Without looking them up, I'm assuming the ones around Palo Alto, San Francisco, Detroit, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, and other heavily blue areas where groupthink abounds? Some of the richest counties are the ones surrounding DC alone - sounds to me like they were a bunch of cronies who got rich by buying off the right people to give themselves perks. Go ahead and keep trying to draw your tenuous correlations to support your broadbrushing statement, and keep rooting for your political football team, though. Rich people who vote for Obama are OBVIOUSLY all unselfish while rich people who vote against Obama are OBVIOUSLY all selfish.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:03 AM  

Mcavity: Annnnd THIS is why you loose.

/ I'm beginning to think the "R" stands for retarded...


'R' stands for something else.

/rhymes with "shmotsky"
//sorry
///had to
 
2012-11-15 08:30:04 AM  

Hydra: Obama promised a bunch of free stuff if you voted for him. Political bribery or not, call it what you will, but that's what he did. It's been an inherent flaw in democracies for politicians to promise to give away to the masses more free stuff (which must, of course, first be taken from someone else in the population - a minority which everyone can scapegoat and no one will care about, like rich people).

Every one of you people commenting in this thread enjoy a standard of living your ancestors barely 100 years ago could ever dream of, yet you cry on and on about how the rich are fleecing you when (excluding rent seekers - a.k.a. political cronies who corrupt the market through government intervention to extract economic rents - i.e. most of Obama's wealthy backers) you can only become rich in the private sector by producing the best good or providing the best service for the lowest cost to make consumers (i.e. all of us) better off. Mutually beneficial exchange happens all the time in a market economy, and thieves rarely ever last long enough to become massively wealthy (without the help of government cronies, of course). Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?

/mercantilists, the lot of you


max_pooper: No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.

Curious - which counties? Without looking them up, I'm assuming the ones around Palo Alto, San Francisco, Detroit, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, and other heavily blue areas where groupthink abounds? Some of the richest counties are the ones surrounding DC alone - sounds to me like they were a bunch of cronies who got rich by buying off the right people to give themselves perks. Go ahead and keep trying to draw your tenuous correlations to support your broadbrushing statement, and keep rooting for your political football team, though. Rich people who vote for Obama are OBVIOUSLY all unselfish while r ...


Look at this. Look at this and laugh.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:07 AM  
Mitt promised to cut my taxes 20%, increase military spending, let me take my SS money and invest it in the stock market so I could make millions for my retirement, eliminate the parts of Obamacare I don't like, but keep the parts of Obamacare I did like, not reduce or eliminate any government programs I liked, including education, add 12 million jobs, and do all the above by balancing the budget. If I was willing to be bought by a politician making promises to give me stuff without a means to pay for it, I would have voted Romney in a heartbeat.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:07 AM  

hubcity: So the guy who's working, paying his fair share, but only making $35k a year, is a leech. Got it. I'll update the Urban Dictionary.


While we're talking about dictionaries, go ahead and define "fair share" as objectively and as freely from emotion as you can.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:49 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Romney circa 11/12: The minorities were bribed to vote for Obama!


Romney's too blinkered and cloistered an idiot to see the deep racism in that statement. Non-whites don't vote by considering their wider best interests and that of their families, they vote for free-Walmart days. Not being smart enough to keep those thoughts to his golf club buddies reaffirms his complete lack of qualities for presidency, something the citizens of London, for example, already understand. America dodge a bullet on that one.
 
2012-11-15 08:31:11 AM  
It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.
 
2012-11-15 08:31:34 AM  

CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.


There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:14 AM  

theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.


It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:37 AM  

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


Laugh even harder at this when you're done.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM  

skinink: I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.


The Democratic side of me agrees, but the human side of me thinks it must really suck to be poor or a minority and see one of the two major political parties openly calling you a leech and acting like you deserve to die.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM  

sprawl15: What a ballgargling shiatcandidate.


Now now, to his credit when he lost he didn't call in the lawyers. He didn't turn it into a clusterfark in the only real and true way that someone of his wealth knows how. I honestly gave it a 50/50 chance that it was going to go that way no matter what.

But he didn't. And it pains me to say it, but that is to his credit.

However with a man of such extreme hubris I fear to say that he's not going away, or at least not without some parting shots. It's mostly just impotent rage over the fact that he now holds no public office for all that he spent and the general consensus is that he us largely unwanted for a gig like that in any state.

Pay it no mind. It's Nixon's "you won't have me to kick around anymore" moment.
 
2012-11-15 08:33:39 AM  

Blathering Idjut: In his heart Romney never conceded. Because why? Unpatriotic douchebag.


Romney's policy interests and patriotism are chalk and cheese.
 
2012-11-15 08:35:50 AM  
I like this new "whiny little biatch" Romney. He makes me laugh.

"Waaah! Obama won because he promised to give constituents things!"

"Like how you promised 8 million jobs to people?"

"...that's different."
 
2012-11-15 08:36:30 AM  

Skarekrough: Now now, to his credit when he lost he didn't call in the lawyers.


That's because he didn't even have a chance of winning that fight. Were it closer, you bet your ass he would have hauled in the lawyers. Remember, they were utterly convinced that their internal shiatpolling was accurate, such that it would likely be easier for them to believe in fraud than believe in them losing so badly.
 
2012-11-15 08:36:39 AM  

sprawl15: unexplained bacon: sidenote...watched Newt's interview on Colbert....I'm shocked to say that he actually seemed to be introspective and blamed the GOP directly and not the people who didn't vote for them. Must be a con of some sort, I know, but still I was surprised.

Good politicians know that the month after the election is the best time to lay some blame on yourself - it makes you look good and doesn't cost you anything. Newt may be half scrotum, but he's from the older breed that still knew how to politic.


He doesn't seem to have a lot of company in the GOP. I can't imagine this will work out well for them.
 
2012-11-15 08:36:49 AM  
For those who are lucky enough to know no psychopathic individuals, allow me to present Willard Rmoney: narcissism personified to the point where we are going to hear rationalizations from a rich feck
for the next decade...
 
2012-11-15 08:37:15 AM  

Hydra: theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.

It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.


Conservatives did not really provide much proofs to the contrary, this election year.
 
2012-11-15 08:38:43 AM  

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


images.businessweek.com
 
2012-11-15 08:38:51 AM  
Why is he even still talking? Certainly he's out of the politics game for good.
 
2012-11-15 08:39:24 AM  
Hispanic voter. Immigrant. College educated. Voted for Obama

WHERE'S MY DAMN FREEBIE?!?!?! Because I just paid my student loans. I sure could have used those $300.
 
2012-11-15 08:40:48 AM  
Some Adam Smith quotes for the Derpers:

"Whenever the legislature attempts to regulate the differences between masters and their workmen, its counsellors are always the masters. When the regulation, therefore, is in favor of the workmen, it is always just and equitable; but it is sometimes otherwise when in favor of the masters."

"The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."


"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind. "

"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expence, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion. "

"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship, the rich and powerful, and to despise or, at least, neglect persons of poor and mean conditions, though necessary both to establish and to maintain the distinction of ranks and the order of society, is, at the same time, the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments."
 
2012-11-15 08:40:55 AM  

Mugato: You know, thinking about it, I haven't heard anyone say anything positive about Romney ever, except him and his family. Not even at the RNC, really, even though I didn't watch it all. That's rare. Even Dukakis had some people with a kind word or two.


exactly.

the whole campaign was anti-Obama...not even actual Obama, but FOX fiction Obama. It's all negative attacks mostly aimed at a BS strawman

then they lose and go straight into attacks on strawman voters who didn't vote for them because they want "free stuff".

you mean people want access to healthcare? food? jobs?
those sons-a-biatches!
 
2012-11-15 08:41:03 AM  

Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


Yeah.. Here is something Adam Smith said pertinent to this conversation:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
 
2012-11-15 08:41:36 AM  
Meanwhile, Tagg was gathering his family friends together under a private-equity fund in anticipation of the taxpayer-funded handouts they would be able to grift under a Romney presidency. The fact that all Romney has to defend himself is projection comes as no surprise. It's all he or the GOP has ever had.
 
2012-11-15 08:42:11 AM  

Hydra: There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


...coherent. You strung a sequence of disconnected elements together into accusations, and as is mandatory for the Right, without a stitch of exposition or evidence. Rent seekers? Obama used his time machine to push through TARP? 
You do understand AM talk radio and Fox are for rage entertainment only?
 
2012-11-15 08:42:13 AM  

dudemanbro: Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes


Yeah, because the auto bailout wasn't designed to win Ohio.

And welfare isn't a democrat vote-breeding project.
 
2012-11-15 08:43:14 AM  
Where are your tax returns, Mitt?
What is your position on abortion. One position, not one you'll adjust later this afternoon.
Do you support equal pay for equal work? Yes or no.
What will you replace the ACA with. Provide details that wine be walked back tomorrow.
What is your budget plan? "Policies to promote growth" isn't a plan. Give details - tax rate and deduction changes. The budget kicks in in a few weeks so you must have something concrete.
Why did you tell an audience that 47% of the population doesn't matter, then turn around and say you care about 100% of Americans?
Who are you?
 
2012-11-15 08:43:20 AM  
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 08:43:26 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-15 08:44:20 AM  
It pleases me to know that Mitt's loss is going to burn, unrelentingly, like a cinder in his mind every day for the rest of his life. What a horrible human being. Let him suffer.
 
2012-11-15 08:44:32 AM  

Aldon: Free stuff for the 1%: Reduced taxes
Free stuff for corporations: Reduce taxes.


Yeah, because letting people keep some of their income is the same as giving them stuff.

Liberal logic right there, ladies and germs.
 
2012-11-15 08:45:21 AM  
The pressure and intimidation worked well too.
 
2012-11-15 08:45:59 AM  
I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.
 
2012-11-15 08:46:43 AM  
How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives. For Moroni's sake, that's what emergency rooms are for!
 
2012-11-15 08:46:56 AM  

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


There's nothing in it that is correct, either. It's a list of your subjective opinions. You are entitled to them, but that doesn't make them facts.
 
2012-11-15 08:48:00 AM  

SevenizGud: Yeah, because letting people keep some of their income is the same as giving them stuff.

Liberal logic right there, ladies and germ


Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.
 
2012-11-15 08:49:04 AM  

CPennypacker:

Laugh even harder at this when you're done.


Can't.Breathe.Must.Stop.Laughing.


[republicanbutthurteverywhere.jpg]
 
2012-11-15 08:49:36 AM  

morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.


(notsureifserious.jpg)
 
2012-11-15 08:49:38 AM  

Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives


Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?
 
2012-11-15 08:50:09 AM  

It's easy to just swipe at Mitt, and apparently the voyage from magnanimous concession to biatchy loser is a short one, but Romney's points are extremely weak.

College loan rates: Obama signed a bill passed by Congress that prevented what would have been a doubling in college loan interest rates due to the structure of the laws that set up that system. Nobody wanted that, left or right, which is why it managed to pass through Congress in an election year.
Contraceptive coverage: This isn't a giveaway of any sort. It says that if you offer health insurance, you need to cover contraception. That means you pay for it in your health insurance. It's as "free" as the "free" drink you get in your McDonalds combo meal.
Keeping college-aged people on their parents' health insurance: Again, not free. Mom and dad are simply allowed to keep paying for young adult kids on their plan as they establish themselves.
Health care for the poor: Yes, finally we get to something the government will be subsidizing. But we're also going to be keeping the poor & indigent out of emergency rooms and other emergent care facilities by keeping them healthy in the first place. In the end it'll be more efficient and people overall will be healthier. What do you want - to give them free check-ups and basic healthcare now, or wait until they're at the emergency room with expensive major problems?


Listening to a guy with hundreds of millions be so upset - nay, angry - that poor families with kids making $20-35K might be getting regular health care the rest of us are paying for is galling. How do you tell someone their kid can't get regular check-ups because they're poor and you don't want your government to help them? How does he look at his own cute little grandkids and think "eh, those other poor kids that aren't ours, fark 'em." How does that even begin to square with his faith?
 
2012-11-15 08:51:16 AM  

neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.


Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.
 
2012-11-15 08:52:30 AM  
Boy oh boy did we ever dodge a bullet this election. Can you imagine this douchnozzle as president?!?!?
 
2012-11-15 08:52:38 AM  

SevenizGud: dudemanbro: Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes

Yeah, because the auto bailout wasn't designed to win Ohio.


So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.

And welfare isn't a democrat vote-breeding project.

Poor people don't vote in big numbers.

OTOH promising to cut social security, voucherize Medicare, raise taxes on middle class folks and generally fark over the majority of the American voting population making under 250k a year isn't a winning electoral strategy. Go figure.
 
2012-11-15 08:53:20 AM  

SevenizGud: Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


Exactly! I have $500,000 dollars stashed back in case a serious illness crops up. Don't you, Mr. Bootstraps?
 
2012-11-15 08:53:23 AM  
So if offering healthcare to low-income citizens is a "gift," then what the fark do you call a 20% tax cut?
 
2012-11-15 08:53:57 AM  

SevenizGud: Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives

Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


You aren't. Like the rest of us, you are dependent upon human society for your very survival.
If society had not supported and protected you in a myriad of ways throuhout your life - you would not exist.
Under pre-civilization conditions, your soft, coddled, civilized ass would last about 15 seconds.
If you were solely responsible for yourself, you would be long dead - if you'd ever been born at all.
 
2012-11-15 08:55:27 AM  

Blathering Idjut: So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.


I don't know who "you guys" are. I was always against the bailout. In fact, I was for the razing of Detroit years before the automakers went bankrupt...just like I was for the bulldozing of New Orleans even BEFORE Katrina.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:12 AM  

SevenizGud: neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.

Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.


Only if you don't regard taxes as an obligation - a bill to be paid. Otherwise, a discount off those taxes is, in fact, a subsidy.
Of course, if you subscribe to the "taxation is theft" school, the discussion is over, and I have no point to make.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:32 AM  

SevenizGud: Blathering Idjut: So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.

I don't know who "you guys" are. I was always against the bailout. In fact, I was for the razing of Detroit years before the automakers went bankrupt...just like I was for the bulldozing of New Orleans even BEFORE Katrina.


And I'm sure you are now in favor of leveling New Jersey, right?
 
2012-11-15 08:56:50 AM  

MeinRS6: bingethinker: How dare people vote for things that will help them!

And who pays for those things?


The "gifts" included college loan reform, so I assume that the next generation of high earners are going to be paying for their own gift.
 
2012-11-15 08:57:15 AM  

amiable: Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


Yeah.. Here is something Adam Smith said pertinent to this conversation:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."


I'm not sure who this Adam Smith fellow is, but I like the cut of his jib.
 
2012-11-15 08:58:13 AM  
I wonder who Romney blamed in 1994 when he lost the Senate election to Ted Kennedy. The pier?
 
2012-11-15 08:58:23 AM  

Blathering Idjut: OTOH promising to cut social security, voucherize Medicare, raise taxes on middle class folks and generally fark over the majority of the American voting population making under 250k a year isn't a winning electoral strategy. Go figure.


And yet the people who, you know, actually draft legislation are still GOP controlled. I wonder why the democrats don't have a majority in the house. Go figure.
 
2012-11-15 08:58:39 AM  

pseudoscience: So if offering healthcare to low-income citizens is a "gift," then what the fark do you call a 20% tax cut?


If you regard paying taxes as a social obligation, it's free money from the government.
On the other hand, if you think "taxation is theft", it's just a little less "theft".
 
2012-11-15 08:58:39 AM  

Whiskey Pete: SevenizGud: Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?

Exactly! I have $500,000 dollars stashed back in case a serious illness crops up. Don't you, Mr. Bootstraps?


FTFM
 
2012-11-15 08:59:21 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com

Mittington Romnelious wishes he could go back to the good ol' days...when White people exclusively benefited from entitlements...you know, like his daddy did.
 
2012-11-15 08:59:32 AM  
Unrepentant douche is unrepentant.
 
2012-11-15 08:59:39 AM  

jso2897: morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.

(notsureifserious.jpg)


It makes me want to make sure that my state is on the list to secede. If the democrats cannot play fairly with the republicans I think the only sensible thing is to take the ball and go home... crying... about the ref, and the fans, and the opposing players, and the court, the rules, the fact that their team isn't allowed to run with the ball and has to dribble, the fact that someone called them a name, and the fact that the expensive uniforms don't make a difference.
 
2012-11-15 08:59:41 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: And I'm sure you are now in favor of leveling New Jersey, right?


Now? When was I not?
 
2012-11-15 09:00:45 AM  

badhatharry: The pressure and intimidation worked well too.


lol whine more Contard.
 
2012-11-15 09:01:09 AM  

SevenizGud: Philip Francis Queeg: And I'm sure you are now in favor of leveling New Jersey, right?

Now? When was I not?


Tekl us, what areas of the US are you not in favor of destroying?
 
2012-11-15 09:01:37 AM  
Always. The. Victim.
 
2012-11-15 09:02:13 AM  
As opposed to... say...

Insulting nearly half the electorate and kowtowing to a platform that sounds more like 1912 than 2012.
 
2012-11-15 09:02:34 AM  

SevenizGud: Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives

Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


If you end up being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, that's your fault for not taking personal responsibility for your "self." In a purely libertarian free market system, nobody would have an economic incentive to be diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
 
2012-11-15 09:02:36 AM  

morlinge: jso2897: morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.

(notsureifserious.jpg)

It makes me want to make sure that my state is on the list to secede. If the democrats cannot play fairly with the republicans I think the only sensible thing is to take the ball and go home... crying... about the ref, and the fans, and the opposing players, and the court, the rules, the fact that their team isn't allowed to run with the ball and has to dribble, the fact that someone called them a name, and the fact that the expensive uniforms don't make a difference.


WTF am I reading? I get that the Republicans are being whiney sissies - but why would that kindle your interest in this 100% bogus "petition" bullshiat?
 
2012-11-15 09:03:49 AM  

SevenizGud: Blathering Idjut: OTOH promising to cut social security, voucherize Medicare, raise taxes on middle class folks and generally fark over the majority of the American voting population making under 250k a year isn't a winning electoral strategy. Go figure.

And yet the people who, you know, actually draft legislation are still GOP controlled. I wonder why the democrats don't have a majority in the house. Go figure.


Gerrymandering by republicans to thwart the will of the majority of voters last Tuesday. What's your point?
 
2012-11-15 09:04:43 AM  

LavenderWolf: amiable: Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


Yeah.. Here is something Adam Smith said pertinent to this conversation:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

I'm not sure who this Adam Smith fellow is, but I like the cut of his jib.


You're confused - he wad talking about "Good" adam Smith. You are quoting "Evil" Adam Smith. the one who doesn't agree with reactionaries.
 
2012-11-15 09:05:11 AM  

jso2897: Otherwise, a discount off those taxes is, in fact, a subsidy.


I wonder why they don't call it mortgage interest subsidy, or dependent children subsidy. Nay, I say unto you, why is it not called mortgage interest welfare and dependent children welfare?

You are all MOOCHERS you people who take that mortgage interest subsidy.

Why are POOR PEOPLE, who don't have a mortgage SUBSIDIZING people with houses? Is that what democrats want? I demand that this welfare for the rich end, in the name of fairness.
 
2012-11-15 09:05:47 AM  

unexplained bacon: The GOP is as wrong about the reasons they lost as they are arrogant and insulting.

They can't even pretend to give a shiat about anything but the interests of rich white christians, and at the same time absolutely shiat on whole segments of voters. What do they do when this costs them an election?


Rich white christian.. oxymoron alert.
 
2012-11-15 09:06:31 AM  

MeinRS6: bingethinker: How dare people vote for things that will help them!

And who pays for those things?


Funny how you only care about the cost of Democratic initiatives...
 
2012-11-15 09:07:24 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Tekl us, what areas of the US are you not in favor of destroying?


The ones that aren't shiat-holes.
 
2012-11-15 09:07:50 AM  

Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


You mean the man who supported the government regulating industries? Passing of legislation to protect workers? backed progressive taxation? Opposed the unregulated free market?

based on your post I assume you aren't talking about the guy who wrote "The Wealth of Nations" but some conservative pundit with the same name.
 
2012-11-15 09:08:11 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: And I'm sure you are now in favor of leveling New Jersey, right?


I think most of Fark has supported this idea since the first episode of Jersey Shore aired, actually.
 
2012-11-15 09:09:19 AM  

Blathering Idjut: Gerrymandering by republicans to thwart the will of the majority of voters last Tuesday. What's your point?


Wow, the voters last Tuesday went back in time and voted in the 2010 elections? Neat trick.
 
2012-11-15 09:09:39 AM  
Hey look on the bright side, Mitt, you can refile your 2011 taxes and score that awesome deduction you "declined" a few months ago.
 
2012-11-15 09:09:40 AM  

SevenizGud: jso2897: Otherwise, a discount off those taxes is, in fact, a subsidy.

I wonder why they don't call it mortgage interest subsidy, or dependent children subsidy. Nay, I say unto you, why is it not called mortgage interest welfare and dependent children welfare?

You are all MOOCHERS you people who take that mortgage interest subsidy.

Why are POOR PEOPLE, who don't have a mortgage SUBSIDIZING people with houses? Is that what democrats want? I demand that this welfare for the rich end, in the name of fairness.


WTF am I reading? Damn, folks - I think we've given him a stroke.
 
2012-11-15 09:11:09 AM  

Xcott: If you end up being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, that's your fault for not taking personal responsibility for your "self."


Yeah, it's clearly someone else's fault. They should be held accountable for my health care.
 
2012-11-15 09:11:24 AM  
Heh... I love the message the GOP is taking from this ass whooping is that they don't need to "moderate" or change their regressive, constipated views and policies; they just need to repackage and rebrand them and all those demographics they lost badly with will flock to them.

Really, I love it. Please... Proceed.
 
2012-11-15 09:13:04 AM  

Hydra: theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.

It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.


I can see why it would appear that way, seeing as how conservatives never say anything that would lead you to believe that they are unselfish or that they care about others.
 
2012-11-15 09:14:13 AM  

NateGrey: badhatharry: The pressure and intimidation worked well too.

lol whine more Contard.


Not whining. It was an impressive get out the vote effort. They tracked down people who haven't voted.

"Why haven't you voted yet, citizen?"
"All your neighbors have already voted for Obama."
"Maybe you should vote for Obama too."
 
2012-11-15 09:14:36 AM  

morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.


I'd like to point out that more than half the country categorically denied Romney. They didn't just deny him the presidency, they rejected him wholly as an attempted leader, knowing he was lying, outright and completely, about many of his claims, and promises. They smelled his BS like a fart in the car.

The residents of this nation stood up at once and said: No! Not yours! You can't have it. Those that were opposed to his competitor couldn't even be bothered to leave the house to vote for him. He was such an unsaleable force in the political environment, his own kind left him forsaken! That's very telling about a candidate when he can't even whip up his own base, because they know he's full of it.

So, no, we're not spiking the ball. We're congratulating each other on a job well done and you come into OUR party like a drunk ex-wife and start complaining and whining. We politely asked you to leave, but, no you have something to say, you want to ruin it for us. Well, I'm sorry. We're not going to put up with it.

Not only is your candidate a loser, you are, as well. You backed a loser. There are some on your side of the fence that were cogent about the election and stayed home, knowing Romney was a loser, but you had to go balls deep, parade around, showing your ass and making a fool out of yourself during the process. So, when we simply show you how egregiously moronic you were, you fall back on the tried and true Right Wing platform of playing the victim.

Now, mind you, we were gonna let it go, but since you Republicans like to talk about rape so much and how it's not a big deal, we all decided in a secret forum only for Lefties to verbally rape you and your kind every time you decide to show up with your stupid persecution complex. You want to be the victim? You got it buddy! I got you flagged and will dog you and your victim complex for the next four years, lest you forget exactly how bad your candidate was, and how badly he lost.

For the next four years, we will treat you EXACTLY as you've been acting: As victims, and as such, we are going to victimize you every chance we get. We don't like it, but we want you to fit in. You chose the role, not us, so quit crying about your position. It was your decision to be the victim, not ours, we're just more than happy to accommodate you.
 
2012-11-15 09:14:43 AM  
Lessee...

-Okay, forgiving student college loan 'interest' is a nice little favor. But the principal is still there, and last I checked, the laws and rules on student loans ensures that will have to be paid almost without exception, even through bankruptcy.

-Obamacare isn't 'free', and that disingenuous chucklefark best stop pretending that being required to BUY healthcare isn't the same thing as getting healthcare coverage for free. Now, if you're below the poverty line, you get some help, as well you should.

-As one might surmise... demonizing the children of a growing and ever more significant part of the population doesn't exactly endear you, or your party, to them. I am not going to penalize someone who came here as a toddler or child. No, I'd rather support them, help them, bring them into the fold. This is the only home they know, and I'll be damned if some xenophobic ass is going to force them to leave and go to what amounts to a foreign nation because it makes them feel 'concerned'.
 
2012-11-15 09:14:48 AM  

MeinRS6: bingethinker: How dare people vote for things that will help them!

And who pays for those things?


westfork: Makes sense to me, all my white trash relatives got was an Obama Phone and that was enough to make them vote for the Big O.


The troll is strong in this thread.
 
2012-11-15 09:15:11 AM  

whatsupchuck: Boy oh boy did we ever dodge a bullet this election. Can you imagine this douchnozzle as president?!?!?


From now on, GOP presidential candidates will get to choose to be labeled as either "like Bush" or "like Romney".
 
2012-11-15 09:15:47 AM  
So long Mitt, please ride off into obscurity now.
 
2012-11-15 09:16:32 AM  

Alphax: unexplained bacon: The GOP is as wrong about the reasons they lost as they are arrogant and insulting.

They can't even pretend to give a shiat about anything but the interests of rich white christians, and at the same time absolutely shiat on whole segments of voters. What do they do when this costs them an election?

Rich white christian.. oxymoron alert.


Not to mention it is really hard for them to accept their declining role in the US. If they really paid attention to demographics (not just minorities increasing but the fact that the GOP plan does not sell to younger voters nearly as well as the Democrat platform) they may see the real reason they lost and will continue to lose for the foreseeable future. I heard a bunch of GOP'ers on NPR this morning saying Mitt was not right enough to get their base out in force. There are no stats to support that claim.
 
2012-11-15 09:16:36 AM  

jso2897: WTF am I reading? Damn, folks - I think we've given him a stroke.


Here, I'll dumb it down far enough that even you can understand.

Mortgage interest deduction is not welfare.
 
2012-11-15 09:17:03 AM  

badhatharry: NateGrey: badhatharry: The pressure and intimidation worked well too.

lol whine more Contard.

Not whining. It was an impressive get out the vote effort. They tracked down people who haven't voted.

"Why haven't you voted yet, citizen?"
"All your neighbors have already voted for Obama."
"Maybe you should vote for Obama too."


i18.photobucket.com
Gooby, pls.
 
2012-11-15 09:17:06 AM  
Someone dusted off their mid-term election alt a little early.
 
2012-11-15 09:17:37 AM  

MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?


I make all the money in my family. My wife does all the hard work of maintaining our household. Is she a leech? Please let me know, the sanctity of our marriage is in jeopardy!

If the rich people want the people that actually do the work that makes/keeps them rich to pay more in taxes, pay us more in salaries.
 
2012-11-15 09:17:47 AM  

badhatharry: NateGrey: badhatharry: The pressure and intimidation worked well too.

lol whine more Contard.

Not whining. It was an impressive get out the vote effort. They tracked down people who haven't voted.

"Why haven't you voted yet, citizen?"
"All your neighbors have already voted for Obama."
"Maybe you should vote for Obama too."


You mean Obama did the same thing politicians have done for ages (only utilizing computers to do it more efficiently), and the same thing Romney tried to do and failed?
 
2012-11-15 09:19:03 AM  

HeartBurnKid: You mean Obama did the same thing politicians have done for ages (only utilizing computers to do it more efficiently), and the same thing Romney tried to do and failed?


In Romney's defense, he said lefties and minorities conspired to make that not work right.
 
2012-11-15 09:19:06 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?

it's called "society".

Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.


People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.
 
2012-11-15 09:19:08 AM  

Cinaed: Now, if you're below the poverty line, you get some help, as well you should.


Yeah, because rewarding people for being losers is what made America great, amirite?

If there's anything we've learned, it's to remove any incentive to succeed, and to reward people for sitting on their ass and/or being stupid.
 
2012-11-15 09:19:31 AM  
see obama is a commie because he wants more people to vote

clearly unconstitutional
 
2012-11-15 09:20:11 AM  
what the hell is a mit romney?
 
2012-11-15 09:20:36 AM  
As soon as he's not trying to get votes, Romney publicly doubles down on the 47% remarks and specifically says that minorities and women are a part of it. This is my shocked face.
 
2012-11-15 09:20:44 AM  

MeinRS6: the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


Keep farking that mass of bloody feathers - it worked out so well for you last week.

Or just go with Paul Ryan for his next Ayn Rand grave-humping.
 
2012-11-15 09:20:54 AM  

SevenizGud: jso2897: WTF am I reading? Damn, folks - I think we've given him a stroke.

Here, I'll dumb it down far enough that even you can understand.

Mortgage interest deduction is not welfare.


Yes it is - and it's not a bad thing. "Welfare" is good. That's why our Constitution charges the government with promoting the general welfare.
 
2012-11-15 09:21:49 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.

I'd like to point out that more than half the country categorically denied Romney. They didn't just deny him the presidency, they rejected him wholly as an attempted leader, knowing he was lying, outright and completely, about many of his claims, and promises. They smelled his BS like a fart in the car.

The residents of this nation stood up at once and said: No! Not yours! You can't have it. Those that were opposed to his competitor couldn't even be bothered to leave the house to vote for him. He was such an unsaleable force in the political environment, his own kind left him forsaken! That's very telling about a candidate when he can't even whip up his own base, because they know he's full of it.

So, no, we're not spiking the ball. We're congratulating each other on a job well done and you come into OUR party like a drunk ex-wife and start complaining and whining. We politely asked you to leave, but, no you have something to say, you want to ruin it for us. Well, I'm sorry. We're not going to put up with it.

Not only is your candidate a loser, you are, as well. You backed a loser. There are some on your side of the fence that were cogent about the election and stayed home, knowing Romney was a loser, but you had to go balls deep, parade around, showing your ass and making a fool out of yourself during the process. So, when we simply show you how egregiously moronic you were, you fall back on the tried and true Right Wing platform of playing the victim.

Now, mind you, we were gonna let it go, but since you Republicans like to talk about rape so much and how it's not a big deal, we all decided in a secret forum only for Lefties to verbally rape you and your kind every time you decide to show up with your stupid pers ...



*golfclap*

/newsletter, subscription, etc.
 
2012-11-15 09:21:54 AM  
This man needs to be nowhere near the reigns of power
 
2012-11-15 09:22:02 AM  

SevenizGud: If there's anything we've learned, it's to remove any incentive to succeed, and to reward people for sitting on their ass and/or being stupid.


Conservative economics in a nutshell. The poor will work harder if we give them less and the rich will work harder if we give them more.
 
2012-11-15 09:22:12 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: Now, if you're below the poverty line, you get some help, as well you should.

Yeah, because rewarding people for being losers is what made America great, amirite?

If there's anything we've learned, it's to remove any incentive to succeed, and to reward people for sitting on their ass and/or being stupid.


You're so right. And we all know, based on history, that when the poor have a hard time finding food, they usually register at Ivy League schools and become hedge fund managers.
 
2012-11-15 09:22:30 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: Now, if you're below the poverty line, you get some help, as well you should.

Yeah, because rewarding people for being losers is what made America great, amirite?

If there's anything we've learned, it's to remove any incentive to succeed, and to reward people for sitting on their ass and/or being stupid.


I see someone was given a silver spoon at birth.
 
2012-11-15 09:22:33 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?

it's called "society".

Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.


Actually, everyone except very small children pays taxes of some kinds - often, of many kinds.
 
2012-11-15 09:22:51 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Or just go with Paul Ryan for his next Ayn Rand grave-humping.


People need to stop thinking that Ayn would have liked Ryan. She had some prickly positions, but she hated rich loafers, too.
 
2012-11-15 09:23:06 AM  

Tarl3k: To everybody who bothered responding to Mein:

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I was just surprised to see him here when his other account is so badly needed in the Israel threads.

He has a very strong need to be engaged, and we should help him out so he doesn't realize his life is completely meaningless. It's the humane thing to do.
 
2012-11-15 09:23:59 AM  

badhatharry: NateGrey: badhatharry: The pressure and intimidation worked well too.

lol whine more Contard.

Not whining. It was an impressive get out the vote effort. They tracked down people who haven't voted.

"Why haven't you voted yet, citizen?"
"All your neighbors have already voted for Obama."
"Maybe you should vote for Obama too."


I guess Republican GOTV workers would NEVAR! suggest that the people they are trying to get out and vote should vote for Romney, eh? NEVAR!!!
 
2012-11-15 09:24:05 AM  

SevenizGud: neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.

Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.


for you and all the crying GOPers:


I want a government that does something.
I want a social safety net, I want affordable healthcare, if that means the government needs to get involved, fine. I want modern roads and infrastructure, I want our children, all of them, to have access to top notch education, I want tax incentives for American companies to keep manufacturing jobs in America not move them into China. I want collective bargaining rights for our work force. I want clean water/air/soil...you get the idea.

That's the kind of America I want, and it seems most American voters want that too.

You either don't want those things for the country or you don't seem to understand that they cost money. Either way, you had a chance to vote for what you want. You live in a democracy, and you've been out voted.

If a small tax hike is what it takes to move this country in the direction I'd like to see it go is necessary, fine.
Tax them, tax me I get how this works and I'm saying, do it.

I've never needed government assistance, but I'm glad it's there for people who do. I know several people who've used some form of assistance in hard times that, thanks to the help, are productive tax payers right now. Maybe you don't get how that works.

You and yours can cry all you want. You're wrong, and we're moving on.
 
2012-11-15 09:24:31 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.


Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.
 
2012-11-15 09:24:51 AM  
Welp, anyone who thought this election might serve as a wake up call to the Republican Party can let go of that dream because it's simply not going to happen. On one hand, my inner four year old is cheering because "ha ha Republicans are too stupid to figure out why they lost and take corrective measures, so we're going to win even bigger in 2016." But my inner adult counters with "but that means America has to do without a sensible opposition party for the foreseeable future. That's not a good thing." We (America and Democrats) need a sensible opposition party to temper the excesses of the party in power, to craft compromise legislation that makes more than just one side happy, to bring alternative ideas to the table (sorry GOP, "no!" is not an alternative idea).

This is how it's going to be until that third party comes along.
 
2012-11-15 09:25:39 AM  

s2s2s2: rufus-t-firefly: Or just go with Paul Ryan for his next Ayn Rand grave-humping.

People need to stop thinking that Ayn would have liked Ryan. She had some prickly positions, but she hated rich loafers, too.


She hated practically everybody - she was mentally ill. A classic paranoid, in fact - both grandiose and persecuted - like the the right wingers who to be victims of the evil liberal welfare state.
 
2012-11-15 09:26:22 AM  
What I find most interesting, and what I haven't heard a lot of commentators mention, is that this is essentially a restatement of the 47% line, albeit with a few more Americans included. We spent the whole election trying to figure out what was the "real Mitt" and it turns out it was 47% Mitt. The one and only thing you can count on with Romney is his genuine contempt for the average American.

And he learned nothing. He probably does think that one of the reasons he lost is because he got CAUGHT making the 47% speech, not because the speech reflected something fundamental about him that was both completely transparent and overwhelmingly distasteful.

Thanks for reminding us that we made the right decision, Mitt. I genuinely hope we never hear from you again. Go live your toxic life and leave us alone.
 
2012-11-15 09:26:35 AM  

jso2897: rufus-t-firefly: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: And who pays for those things?

it's called "society".

Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Actually, everyone except very small children pays taxes of some kinds - often, of many kinds.


I just figured we were talking about income tax.

But yeah - EVERYONE pays in. No one really gets a free ride. Hell, even people on public assistance pay taxes.

Some states even charge sales tax on staple food.
 
2012-11-15 09:27:05 AM  

jso2897: "Welfare" is good.


And there you have it. The problem in a nutshell.

Just imagine how good our country will be when EVERYONE is on welfare. It'll be 100% good.
 
2012-11-15 09:27:31 AM  
Let's oversimplify the electoral process and see if we can find a problem. Set complexity level to 'Flintsones'.

Say Fred needs 50.001% to 'win' an election as Grand Poobah of the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos. Unfortunately, he's effectively alienated 47% of the members when an angry rant over the wall with Barney becomes public knowledge throughout Bedrock.

This means the Flintstone/Rubble ticket must win 94% of the remaining votes if they ever hope to wear the sacred hat.

Fred's campaign strategy is to focus mainly on the interests of 20% of the members.

Who is likely to win - Fred Flintstone or incumbent Poobah Barock O'BamBam?
 
2012-11-15 09:28:16 AM  
Where is my tax free ObamaTurkey then?
 
2012-11-15 09:28:30 AM  

jso2897: SevenizGud: jso2897: WTF am I reading? Damn, folks - I think we've given him a stroke.

Here, I'll dumb it down far enough that even you can understand.

Mortgage interest deduction is not welfare.

Yes it is - and it's not a bad thing. "Welfare" is good. That's why our Constitution charges the government with promoting the general welfare.


That was talking about General Welfare of the 3rd infantry, he was just a 2 star general at the time, he clearly deserved 3 stars.
 
2012-11-15 09:28:32 AM  

SevenizGud: jso2897: "Welfare" is good.

And there you have it. The problem in a nutshell.

Just imagine how good our country will be when EVERYONE is on welfare. It'll be 100% good.


In one form or another, they already are - including you.
 
2012-11-15 09:29:41 AM  

SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.


Yet oddly enough rich people need them to stay affluent in order to buy products and services.
 
2012-11-15 09:30:11 AM  

SevenizGud: Yeah, because rewarding people for...


Nitpicking... but how is someone making 25k-35k a year 'sitting on their ass'?
 
2012-11-15 09:30:21 AM  

theknuckler_33: What, prey tell, are these gifts targeted only to african americans and hispanics? Please elaborate.


Hope and change.
 
2012-11-15 09:30:32 AM  

SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.


When you get $675, $50 less is HUGE
 
2012-11-15 09:30:49 AM  
And his ignore list grew ten times that day
 
2012-11-15 09:31:13 AM  

jso2897: s2s2s2: rufus-t-firefly: Or just go with Paul Ryan for his next Ayn Rand grave-humping.

People need to stop thinking that Ayn would have liked Ryan. She had some prickly positions, but she hated rich loafers, too.

She hated practically everybody - she was mentally ill. A classic paranoid, in fact - both grandiose and persecuted - like the the right wingers who to be victims of the evil liberal welfare state.


Doesn't matter who SHE liked. Paul Ryan is the one who proselytized for Objectivism.

He is the one who called her the inspiration for him getting into politics and said she made the best moral case for capitalism.

Besides, we know EXACTLY the kind of man she loved - the sociopathic murderer.
 
2012-11-15 09:31:41 AM  

Hollie Maea: What I find most interesting, and what I haven't heard a lot of commentators mention, is that this is essentially a restatement of the 47% line, albeit with a few more Americans included. We spent the whole election trying to figure out what was the "real Mitt" and it turns out it was 47% Mitt. The one and only thing you can count on with Romney is his genuine contempt for the average American.


Romney just tried to 'bribe' the wrong Americans. Money may equal speech, but it doesn't equal votes.
 
2012-11-15 09:31:53 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less


How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working? Already there are GENERATIONS of people who have NEVER worked. At all. Ever.

Guess which way they vote.
 
2012-11-15 09:32:52 AM  

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less

How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working? Already there are GENERATIONS of people who have NEVER worked. At all. Ever.

Guess which way they vote.


I would imagine that the Romney boys voted for their father.
 
2012-11-15 09:32:59 AM  
It isn't insulting at all to say that minorities vote for free stuff, the GOP should continue with this narrative.
 
2012-11-15 09:33:29 AM  

SevenizGud: neenerist: ....will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.

Whatever. .....


I've failed you.
 
2012-11-15 09:33:44 AM  

SevenizGud: jso2897: "Welfare" is good.

And there you have it. The problem in a nutshell.

Just imagine how good our country will be when EVERYONE is on welfare. It'll be 100% good.


Just admit you were given the good graces of your parents hard-work and weath and that's why you do not want to share - i.e., you're a selfish little twat. Or, that you "had to struggle all your life to be semi-successful and everyone should have to struggle to!" is the way you think - i.e., a raging asshole.

It's OK, we won't think of you any less than we already do.
 
2012-11-15 09:34:04 AM  

SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.


So now it's not that the poor don't pay taxes, it's that they don't pay enough? 10% on 25K in earnings is not enough, but a measly 14% on 20-some million is too much? WTF kind of mind thinks something like that?
 
2012-11-15 09:34:29 AM  

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less

How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working? Already there are GENERATIONS of people who have NEVER worked. At all. Ever.

Guess which way they vote.


Uh, we have a work requirement for Welfare
 
2012-11-15 09:34:42 AM  

CPennypacker: SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.

When you get $675, $50 less is HUGE


See how the argument changes? First it's "They're all leeches who pay nothing and just want free stuff," now it's "Well, they don't pay ENOUGH taxes."
 
2012-11-15 09:35:04 AM  

SevenizGud: Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?


probably because living in poverty sucks and having stuff and going places and enjoying life is totally awesome and cool.
 
2012-11-15 09:35:19 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Tarl3k: To everybody who bothered responding to Mein:

[us4.memecdn.com image 630x701]

I was just surprised to see him here when his other account is so badly needed in the Israel threads.

He has a very strong need to be engaged, and we should help him out so he doesn't realize his life is completely meaningless. It's the humane thing to do.


Tats knows exactly what he's doing when he uses his alt to defend curbstompers and war criminals.
 
2012-11-15 09:35:24 AM  

jso2897: She hated practically everybody - she was mentally ill. A classic paranoid, in fact - both grandiose and persecuted - like the the right wingers who to be victims of the evil liberal welfare state.


I still like that she thought the creative people were good, and the people that buy/own them are shiat.

Even though she fled Russia, and hated communism, she agreed with the interpretation of "he who does not work, should not eat." as it applies to a lot of CEOs.
 
2012-11-15 09:35:59 AM  

theknuckler_33: SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.

So now it's not that the poor don't pay taxes, it's that they don't pay enough? 10% on 25K in earnings is not enough, but a measly 14% on 20-some million is too much? WTF kind of mind thinks something like that?


Shhh...he's endorsing an increase in tax rates. Now we just have to decide if they'll be progressive (the rates, that is).
 
2012-11-15 09:36:23 AM  
you lost, Mittens. Go away.
 
2012-11-15 09:36:48 AM  

Cinaed: Nitpicking... but how is someone making 25k-35k a year 'sitting on their ass'?


If you are making less than 35K how could you be doing anything other than sitting on your ass? Unless you are just completely idiotic, and doing something like mowing lawns for $1 per lawn.

If you take advantage of all the various Uncle Sucker programs it comes out to about $22K/year. So why would you even bother doing something other than sitting on your ass down on filth-and-muck end of the ladder?
 
2012-11-15 09:37:04 AM  

keylock71: Heh... I love the message the GOP is taking from this ass whooping is that they don't need to "moderate" or change their regressive, constipated views and policies; they just need to repackage and rebrand them and all those demographics they lost badly with will flock to them.

Really, I love it. Please... Proceed.


I have a feeling we will be using this quote a lot for the next four years.
 
2012-11-15 09:37:51 AM  

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less

How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?


Because being poor farking sucks.
 
2012-11-15 09:38:14 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: I would imagine that the Romney boys voted for their father.


I had no idea the Romney boys were considered poor.
 
2012-11-15 09:38:19 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: Nitpicking... but how is someone making 25k-35k a year 'sitting on their ass'?

If you are making less than 35K how could you be doing anything other than sitting on your ass? Unless you are just completely idiotic, and doing something like mowing lawns for $1 per lawn.

If you take advantage of all the various Uncle Sucker programs it comes out to about $22K/year. So why would you even bother doing something other than sitting on your ass down on filth-and-muck end of the ladder?


Cuz 35,000 is 60% more than 22,000? And you have to work for the 22,000 too?
 
2012-11-15 09:38:20 AM  

SevenizGud: Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?


SevenizGud's world:

i45.tinypic.com 

Meeting some real po' foke might be educational for you.
 
2012-11-15 09:39:26 AM  

CPennypacker: SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: The poor will work harder if we give them less

How about working AT ALL?

Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working? Already there are GENERATIONS of people who have NEVER worked. At all. Ever.

Guess which way they vote.

Uh, we have a work requirement for Welfare


B-b-b-but Obama waived that*, remember?!?!!

* at the request of certain GOP governors, so they could set their own requirements
** please don't read the footnotes
 
2012-11-15 09:39:31 AM  
Not trying to take away basic freedoms from minorities is the Republican version of bribing.
 
2012-11-15 09:39:58 AM  

Lost Thought 00: And his ignore list grew ten times that day


I promised myself that once I cleaned out my ignore list after last week, that I would not repopulate it quickly.

I lied to myself.
 
2012-11-15 09:40:36 AM  

Anti_illuminati: ust admit you were given the good graces of your parents hard-work and weath and that's why you do not want to share


I give 85% of my income to charity, dipshiat.
 
2012-11-15 09:41:22 AM  

SevenizGud: Philip Francis Queeg: I would imagine that the Romney boys voted for their father.

I had no idea the Romney boys were considered poor.


We were discussing generation of people who have ever worked. NEVER. Here's what those kind of leeches look like..

thefamily.com

Aren't lazy mooches like these folks disgusting?
 
2012-11-15 09:42:00 AM  

neenerist: SevenizGud: Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?

SevenizGud's world:

[i45.tinypic.com image 550x385] 

Meeting some real po' foke might be educational for you.


At least the cartoonist made her white.

I'm trying to figure out how a few hundred bucks a month in welfare payments would pay for two Cadillacs...
 
2012-11-15 09:42:11 AM  

theknuckler_33: SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.

So now it's not that the poor don't pay taxes, it's that they don't pay enough? 10% on 25K in earnings is not enough, but a measly 14% on 20-some million is too much? WTF kind of mind thinks something like that?


Well, do you think it is fair that billionaires pay more in sales tax then dozens of poor people will earn in a year? They are the true victims. Put these people to work to pay off the differences, there are fields that need to be harvested, roads that need to be worked on. Turn the government lands over to the job creators and make laws that the poor people have to work on these lands and in the factories for free as a form of punishment until they too become rich enough to pay more. This will both get rid of welfare, and take the unfair burden the wealthy have endured for the last century. Only then can we be a free society again!
 
2012-11-15 09:42:18 AM  

log_jammin: "You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge," Romney said, the New York Times reported.

I can imagine somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told they don't matter and they refuse to take any sort of responsibility for their lives, and finding those statement repugnant so they decided to not vote for the guy who said those things.


I really didn't think I could hate that man any more than I already did, but holy fark it seems he is set on proving me wrong.

Fark you Romney. Fark you, fark your condescending false empathy, fark everything about you. Go fark yourself in a deep, dark hole and never farking come out.
 
2012-11-15 09:42:45 AM  

Citrate1007: Not trying to take away basic freedoms from minorities is the Republican version of bribing.


Did you know Obama encouraged black people to VOTE?

WTF is this guy's problem?
 
2012-11-15 09:43:08 AM  

theknuckler_33: Because being poor farking sucks.


Evidently it doesn't suck as much as working.
 
2012-11-15 09:43:22 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: neenerist: SevenizGud: Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working?

SevenizGud's world:

[i45.tinypic.com image 550x385] 

Meeting some real po' foke might be educational for you.

At least the cartoonist made her white.

I'm trying to figure out how a few hundred bucks a month in welfare payments would pay for two Cadillacs...


She saved the money by not eating, clothing herself or taking shelter . . . for 32 years.
 
2012-11-15 09:43:28 AM  

jso2897: hubcity: MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.

So the guy who's working, paying his fair share, but only making $35k a year, is a leech. Got it. I'll update the Urban Dictionary.

Don't forget to include children, the disabled, and the retired. Sponges, all of 'em.


You seem to have overlooked active duty military stationed in combat zones. Those guys suck up a lot of funds, what with all of that body armor, weapons, and ammunition that they demand. And then they have the gall to not pay any taxes.
 
2012-11-15 09:43:29 AM  

SevenizGud: Why would a poor person go get a job AT ALL if he can get everyone else to give him enough money to get everything he needs without working? Already there are GENERATIONS of people who have NEVER worked. At all. Ever.


How much do you think the average poor person or family receives from TANF?
 
2012-11-15 09:43:59 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Aren't lazy mooches like these folks disgusting?


kinda, but they got hot wives
 
2012-11-15 09:44:16 AM  
Welcome to irrelevancy, Mr. Romney.

/Moar loser butthurt, please.
//Your endless whining is sweetest music to my ears.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-11-15 09:44:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: EnviroDude: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

No. They support Obama voters in the blue counties that happen to be in red states

You said something dumb and should feel ashamed.


BAHAHAHAHA. EnviroDude and MeinRS6 will never concede either point. They know no shame. Still, that comment amused the shiat out of me. Good one.
 
2012-11-15 09:44:52 AM  
Hey, Mitt. Hold this up in front of your face:

i78.photobucket.com

THIS is why you lost!
 
2012-11-15 09:44:57 AM  
Mitt 2nd debate:


...And as governor of my state, I was able to get a hundred percent of my people insured - all my kids; about 98 percent of the adults. Was able also to get our schools ranked number one in the nation so a hundred percent of our kids would have a bright opportunity for a future. ...

hmmmm...why should the people of Mass. who can afford their own health costs help those who can't Mr. Romney?

I suppose it would be bad for everyone to have sick people dying in the streets, but how did you keep Atlas from shrugging?
 
2012-11-15 09:46:16 AM  
www.customink.com

/I'm sure someone can improve on this as I'm graphically challeneged
 
2012-11-15 09:46:47 AM  

SevenizGud: If you are making less than 35K...


Without a solid thorough education, it's pretty easy to be making that much, if not less.

Minimum wage is 7.25... 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, that comes out to a whopping 15k and change. And that's gross, not counting taxes that, oddly enough, do end up being taken out of their paychecks.

Tell me, if you will, how that is 'sitting around on one's ass'? And how, exactly, is someone making that much, trying to provide for a family, going to afford anything more than basic food/shelter?
 
2012-11-15 09:47:40 AM  

MorrisBird: MeinRS6: dudemanbro: MeinRS6: Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes  

[i45.tinypic.com image 425x229]

Not even half as douchey as voting for Obama and biatching about federalism.

You lost. Deal with it.


Just put the douchebag on ignore and save yourself from reading his dreck.
 
2012-11-15 09:47:44 AM  

unexplained bacon: Mitt 2nd debate:


...And as governor of my state, I was able to get a hundred percent of my people insured - all my kids; about 98 percent of the adults. Was able also to get our schools ranked number one in the nation so a hundred percent of our kids would have a bright opportunity for a future. ...

hmmmm...why should the people of Mass. who can afford their own health costs help those who can't Mr. Romney?

I suppose it would be bad for everyone to have sick people dying in the streets, but how did you keep Atlas from shrugging?

By removing horrible regulations that prevent the industrious from finding a use for this new natural resource of course!
 
2012-11-15 09:48:14 AM  

SevenizGud: Anti_illuminati: ust admit you were given the good graces of your parents hard-work and weath and that's why you do not want to share

I give 85% of my income to charity, dipshiat.


Liar.
 
2012-11-15 09:48:44 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Shhh...he's endorsing an increase in tax rates. Now we just have to decide if they'll be progressive (the rates, that is).


What I endorse is CUTTING SPENDING. We could lower EVERYONE'S tax if we spent less.

I think it's funny that you guys see the Greek model as the solution, and not the problem.

I am all for changing tax policy so that it isn't REGRESSIVE where it is now. But that's not so much federal income tax policy, except for the mortgage interest deduction I mentioned before.

A good example is the gas tax. That kills the working schlep who commutes to work 35 miles each way for a measly $85,000 or whatever. But for a successful person, he doesn't give a shiat about gas tax. If gas was $20 a gallon, it wouldn't make him a flit of difference.

So I would remove the gas tax, and pick it up elsewhere, in a way that is less regressive. Like in a luxury tax for expensive, low-economy vehicles.
 
2012-11-15 09:48:53 AM  

SevenizGud: theknuckler_33: Because being poor farking sucks.

Evidently it doesn't suck as much as working.


Consistent troll is consistent.
 
2012-11-15 09:49:14 AM  

hobberwickey: skinink: I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.

The Democratic side of me agrees, but the human side of me thinks it must really suck to be poor or a minority and see one of the two major political parties openly calling you a leech and acting like you deserve to die.


And then voting for them.
 
2012-11-15 09:49:26 AM  

SevenizGud: I give 85% of my income to charity, dipshiat.


+1 Funny.
 
2012-11-15 09:49:28 AM  

SevenizGud: If you take advantage of all the various Uncle Sucker programs it comes out to about $22K/year. So why would you even bother doing something other than sitting on your ass down on filth-and-muck end of the ladder?


You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life. Congratulations! And, I honestly hope you never have to. Things you cannot have while on Social Programs: Mortgage Payments (if you outright own the house, you are told to sell it and live off the equity instead), Car Loans (they tell you to sell it and take the earnings to buy a car outright), a full-time or part-time job (taking home more than $100 pre-tax wages in a week disqualifies you for many social programs).

But, let's see what you do get: $300 a week, plus $80 in food stamps.

So, Mr. High And Mighty, go ahead and live like a welfare queen, you can only spend $300 cash a week (cumulative to $1200 a month for all bills), and $80 in food. If you have kids, we can add another $40-60 per kid per week. Remember, that Food Stamps only work for food, you can't go spend it elsewhere.

Go ahead, come back in a month and tell us how great the Welfare system is and Food Stamps is living high on the hog.

(psst, now's the time where you make excuses about not having to do it because you're better prepared in life, but can't see the stupidity of your statements.)
 
2012-11-15 09:50:20 AM  

peachpicker: It pleases me to know that Mitt's loss is going to burn, unrelentingly, like a cinder in his mind every day for the rest of his life. What a horrible human being. Let him suffer.


Let it be so. Amen.
 
2012-11-15 09:50:52 AM  

MeinRS6: log_jammin: MeinRS6: Ha!

Wrong, son. They are called taxpayers.

and those tax payers are part of...

come on buddy. you can do this.

But the leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but take are also part of society, so it's ok to differentiate between the two groups.


What, you mean like the leeches who buy companies, gut their assets, outsource their employees' jobs then walk away from the wrecked mass of the former company with a massive personal profit? Those leeches?
 
2012-11-15 09:51:16 AM  

Tymast: unexplained bacon: Mitt 2nd debate:


...And as governor of my state, I was able to get a hundred percent of my people insured - all my kids; about 98 percent of the adults. Was able also to get our schools ranked number one in the nation so a hundred percent of our kids would have a bright opportunity for a future. ...

hmmmm...why should the people of Mass. who can afford their own health costs help those who can't Mr. Romney?

I suppose it would be bad for everyone to have sick people dying in the streets, but how did you keep Atlas from shrugging?

By removing horrible regulations that prevent the industrious from finding a use for this new natural resource of course!


Obvious regulations...also he probably had less failed policies that were failures.

But, what concerns me is that it seem Mitt bribed his way into the Governor's mansion in Mass.
I'm very concerned about that.
 
2012-11-15 09:51:18 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: SevenizGud: Philip Francis Queeg: I would imagine that the Romney boys voted for their father.

I had no idea the Romney boys were considered poor.

We were discussing generation of people who have ever worked. NEVER. Here's what those kind of leeches look like..

[thefamily.com image 600x371]

Aren't lazy mooches like these folks disgusting?


I like how they tried to color code everyone by generation, but like usual, Bapp totally farked it all up.
 
2012-11-15 09:52:02 AM  

Chaide: jso2897: mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.

They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive".

Obama is "divisive" because the right refused to work with him since day 1 of his presidency, and reaffirmed their ambitions in 2010 when they thought their momentum would carry through to today. Because he didn't cave into their every demand, it must mean that he's polarized Washington even more.

Fortunately, their constant blocking of progress was seen for what it was.

There's no grey to them, only black and white. Or I guess red and blue.

I'm assuming you knew that though. Basically, I agree.


They can't mix red and blue. That would be purple. Purple is ghey and they don't like teh gheys.
 
2012-11-15 09:52:24 AM  
"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don't have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge,"

How could they possibly vote against my can't-lose plan of ensuring that 40% of their pay is spoken for by health costs before they even make it?
 
2012-11-15 09:52:50 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: How much do you think the average poor person or family receives from TANF?


Enough to not work.
 
2012-11-15 09:52:55 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Besides, we know EXACTLY the kind of man she loved - the sociopathic murderer.


She liked Che?
 
2012-11-15 09:53:30 AM  

Mugato: You know, thinking about it, I haven't heard anyone say anything positive about Romney ever, except him and his family. Not even at the RNC, really, even though I didn't watch it all. That's rare. Even Dukakis had some people with a kind word or two.


A rich a-hole that would sell you out as soon as look at you tends not to make many friends.
 
2012-11-15 09:54:28 AM  
Of course repugs want taxpayers to pay for a huge and wasteful military so we can slaughter brown people for no coherent reason, which is much better.

News flash you farktards, it will now come down to a choice between healthcare or the huge military you love. Guess which one is going to win out. You're right to be butthurt over this election, the full meaning won't be clear for a few years, but your current brand of petty hatred and war mongering for votes is almost over.
 
2012-11-15 09:54:44 AM  

Cinaed: And how, exactly, is someone making that much, trying to provide for a family, going to afford anything more than basic food/shelter?


There's your problem, right there. Thank you for not breeding if you are too stupid/lazy to provide for children.
 
2012-11-15 09:55:21 AM  
Man am I ever getting a lot of mileage out of this one.


Remember kids:

Minorities voting in their best interests: BAD

Rich whites voting in their best interests: GOOD
 
2012-11-15 09:55:47 AM  

morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.


You are full of crap. And now on my ignore list. Had me fooled yesterday.
 
2012-11-15 09:56:13 AM  
Glad to see Rmoney picking up on the Limbaugh "Obama is Santa" argument.

I can't imagine that this will not go well for Republicans.
Carry on, GOP!
 
2012-11-15 09:56:51 AM  

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: How much do you think the average poor person or family receives from TANF?

Enough to not work.


how do you feel about Romneycare?

Mitt:
...And as governor of my state, I was able to get a hundred percent of my people insured - all my kids; about 98 percent of the adults...


would you say he bribed voters?
 
2012-11-15 09:56:57 AM  

SevenizGud: Dusk-You-n-Me: How much do you think the average poor person or family receives from TANF?

Enough to not work.


wow :) i think you should start working on your acceptance speech for the Nobel prize in economics.
 
2012-11-15 09:57:28 AM  

whatsupchuck: Boy oh boy did we ever dodge a bullet this election. Can you imagine this douchnozzle as president?!?!?


Why so many were motivated to stab in the eye and leave bleeding any hope of him winning. And continue to be.

Moral unity against a would-be tyrant is not "gloating." It is well-earned victory.
 
2012-11-15 09:58:31 AM  

jso2897: mscleo: Really?

Pathological delusion?

People who work and not just the welfare queens are now the enemy?

And the conservatives call Obama arrogant.

They want to divide the country into the "productive" and "nonproductive", along utterly arbitrary and meaningless lines. But Obama is "divisive" black.

 
2012-11-15 10:00:45 AM  
I'm sure doubling down on calling women and minorities shiftless moochers will win Republicans more votes in the future.

Poor white Christian males are still OK though right?
 
2012-11-15 10:01:32 AM  
so it's super easy to be poor?

why don't all you whinny GOP farkers quit your jobs (assuming you actually have one) and be poor for a while then?

do it. Let us know how fookin' easy you think it is will you?

that'll show us. that'll show us all.
 
2012-11-15 10:01:45 AM