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2012-11-15 10:03:48 AM  

SevenizGud: Enough to not work.


There's about 4.3M recipients of TANF benefits, 3/4 of those are children (effing freeloaders, amirite?).

That leaves us with about 1M adults who receive TANF benefits, less than one-half of 1% of the adult population.

According to HHS, in any given month, about half of all TANF recipients live in a family unit with at least one person who is employed, but those earnings are so low they are still eligible for a small amount of benefits.

Nearly 30% of TANF recipients live in a family with at least one person who works a full-time job, but again their income level is at or below the poverty level.

Half of all persons who enter the TANF rolls and begin to receive cash benefits from the program will exit the rolls within 4 months, three of every four TANF entrants will exit within a year, and only about 1 in 6 will receive benefits for 20 months or longer.

Your idea that people are living off of TANF benefits generation after generation is simply not true. But you'll have to ignore that (which you've clearly chosen to do) if you want to continue to scapegoat welfare recipients (3/4 of which are children) as the source of all of our fiscal woes.
 
2012-11-15 10:04:02 AM  

SevenizGud: HST's Dead Carcass: You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life.

Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.


Farking freeloader
 
2012-11-15 10:04:40 AM  

s2s2s2: jso2897: She hated practically everybody - she was mentally ill. A classic paranoid, in fact - both grandiose and persecuted - like the the right wingers who to be victims of the evil liberal welfare state.

I still like that she thought the creative people were good, and the people that buy/own them are shiat.

Even though she fled Russia, and hated communism, she agreed with the interpretation of "he who does not work, should not eat." as it applies to a lot of CEOs.


I've read most of her work - indeed, in my late teens and early twenties, I was quite infatuated with her.
But then i became a man, and put aside the things of childhood.
 
2012-11-15 10:05:00 AM  

SevenizGud: HST's Dead Carcass: You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life.

Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.


Do farmers beg you on their hands and knees to come and fertilize their crops?
 
2012-11-15 10:05:39 AM  

incendi: Fart_Machine: Poor white Christian males are still OK though right?

They're not mooches, they're fine upstanding folks who have fallen on hard times and we have a moral obligation to help them get back on their feet.


You mean poor old white guys like Mitt's grandfather?
 
2012-11-15 10:06:27 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Go ahead, come back in a month and tell us how great the Welfare system is and Food Stamps is living high on the hog.


And yet people do it rather than working. That's the whole point. Some people are perfectly satisfied to live in filth and squalid conditions as long as they don't have to get off their ass. And sense they always vote democrat, the democrats are perfectly happy to INCREASE their number.
 
2012-11-15 10:06:47 AM  

SevenizGud: HST's Dead Carcass: You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life.

Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.


I've never taken advantage of any government program like that...I consider myself lucky.

I'm glad it was there for you though.
It seems to be a common theme among the wailing RWers I happen to know.
Just about all of them have been on food stamps or some other aid at some point in their life, just about all of them went on to become productive citizens too.

do you see how that works?

how can you turn around and try to deny that help to someone else now?
 
2012-11-15 10:09:32 AM  

LavenderWolf: SevenizGud: rufus-t-firefly: People who make $25,000 - $35,000 a year ARE taxpayers, dipshiat.

Wow, $2,500 in tax!!! Way to pull that wagon! I hope that wagon does not get to escape velocity and go into orbit.

Let me make you understand something. Different amounts of money mean different things to different people.

$2,500 seems like not very much to you.

To me... Well, I would eat through your torso for $2,500.


My wife and I have paid more than that in taxes this year, and I certainly wish I could have that money right now...but, considering those taxes mean:

* we get to live in a country where we are free to speak and read whatever we wish
* poor children get an education
* the less fortunate don't have to go without food or shelter
* etc, etc, etc,

I'm fine with it.

I'll never understand why some people seem to be jealous of the "lucky ducky" poor.
 
2012-11-15 10:11:00 AM  

SevenizGud: What I endorse is CUTTING SPENDING.


And what spending would you like to see cut?
Medicaid/Medicare?
Social Security?
Defense?

Or NPR/PBS funding.
 
2012-11-15 10:11:22 AM  

unexplained bacon: how can you turn around and try to deny that help to someone else now?


They aren't working. See the difference? Of course you don't.

You don't have to work. You only have to work if you want to eat.
 
2012-11-15 10:11:30 AM  

SevenizGud: Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.


I always say this because it's true: I do volunteer work with folks that are on these programs. Across the board, nearly all of them don't want to be on them, but, that's the hand life dealt them. For a myriad of reasons, people rely on social programs to simply get by in life. There are the lazy ones or the ones that have given up on life that milk the system, that is very true, but they are a small portion of the average person on the programs.

Demonizing people for being on them is not the route to go. Actually doing something about it is the proper way to handle it. I take the time to help people do a variety of things, learn skills, properly prepare them for the work ahead of them, and I am very proud to have helped a good number of people actually get off social programs by helping them find jobs, make resumes, teaching them skills, finding a halfway house, or finding them an apartment. I didn't do it for them, I showed them how to do it. I personally spend my time, free of charge, doing this. I go into homeless shelters to help them. I pull up in my fancy car, nice clothes, and slightly overweight bulk to show them what they can be. I was there, I pulled myself out of the fire by having someone show me the ropes, and I took what they taught me and gave myself a good life.

Those that don't care for my help don't get it. There's nothing I can do for someone that isn't willing to help themselves.

I don't ask anything of anyone I'm not already doing myself. If you don't like the 'freeloaders' of America getting a 'free ride', why not do the work yourself to help them attain a level of living you find acceptable.
 
2012-11-15 10:12:17 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.

I'd like to point out that more than half the country categorically denied Romney. They didn't just deny him the presidency, they rejected him wholly as an attempted leader, knowing he was lying, outright and completely, about many of his claims, and promises. They smelled his BS like a fart in the car.

The residents of this nation stood up at once and said: No! Not yours! You can't have it. Those that were opposed to his competitor couldn't even be bothered to leave the house to vote for him. He was such an unsaleable force in the political environment, his own kind left him forsaken! That's very telling about a candidate when he can't even whip up his own base, because they know he's full of it.

So, no, we're not spiking the ball. We're congratulating each other on a job well done and you come into OUR party like a drunk ex-wife and start complaining and whining. We politely asked you to leave, but, no you have something to say, you want to ruin it for us. Well, I'm sorry. We're not going to put up with it.

Not only is your candidate a loser, you are, as well. You backed a loser. There are some on your side of the fence that were cogent about the election and stayed home, knowing Romney was a loser, but you had to go balls deep, parade around, showing your ass and making a fool out of yourself during the process. So, when we simply show you how egregiously moronic you were, you fall back on the tried and true Right Wing platform of playing the victim.

Now, mind you, we were gonna let it go, but since you Republicans like to talk about rape so much and how it's not a big deal, we all decided in a secret forum only for Lefties to verbally rape you and your kind every time you decide to show up with your stupid pers ...


I really think there needs to be a sarcasm font. The republicans have been whining about everything under the sun. Then they complain that the democrats are being bad sports.
 
2012-11-15 10:12:31 AM  

unexplained bacon: SevenizGud: HST's Dead Carcass: You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life.

Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.

I've never taken advantage of any government program like that...I consider myself lucky.

I'm glad it was there for you though.
It seems to be a common theme among the wailing RWers I happen to know.
Just about all of them have been on food stamps or some other aid at some point in their life, just about all of them went on to become productive citizens too.

do you see how that works?

how can you turn around and try to deny that help to someone else now?


Because he's a hypocrite?

I'm glad that anyone can get help, even if he turns into a hateful asshole who wants it to be unavailable to everyone else. When some people need help, they turn against those that helped them and want to erase the fact that they ever needed help. It's a shame.
 
2012-11-15 10:12:50 AM  

Cinaed: SevenizGud: What I endorse is CUTTING SPENDING.

And what spending would you like to see cut?
Medicaid/Medicare?
Social Security?
Defense?

Or NPR/PBS funding.


Defense is constitutional. All the rest should be cut to zero immediately.
 
2012-11-15 10:13:21 AM  

SevenizGud: They aren't working.


We've already established that the people getting help on this stuff 'are' working, 'are' paying taxes.
 
2012-11-15 10:13:24 AM  

SevenizGud: unexplained bacon: how can you turn around and try to deny that help to someone else now?

They aren't working. See the difference? Of course you don't.

You don't have to work. You only have to work if you want to eat.


who isn't working exactly?
you received aid, yet you were working...

who exactly are you mad at? be specific.
I get the feeling you're not really sure yourself.
 
2012-11-15 10:14:26 AM  

Goodfella: what the hell is a mit romney?


It has taken nearly seven years to find an answer to that question. But now it can be stated quite definitively, Mitt Romney is a loser.
 
2012-11-15 10:14:37 AM  
Real 'Merkins vote AGAINST their own interests, Dontcha know.
 
2012-11-15 10:14:39 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: [poor give more.jpg]


Total bullshiat. Gates and Buffett are two of the richest people in the world, and they are giving almost everything away. So the most generous people are the richest people in the world, clearly.
 
2012-11-15 10:14:44 AM  

SevenizGud: And yet people do it rather than working. That's the whole point. Some people are perfectly satisfied to live in filth and squalid conditions as long as they don't have to get off their ass


So what? Congrats on discovering the Bell Curve. Now if you can demonstrate that the funds to maintain the tiny minority permanently at the far tip are so catastrophic in the big picture as to justify the hissy fit, or that by cutting them loose they'll quietly starve and die instead of costing more in medical support, law enforcement and social upheaval, you'll have the beginnings of a talking point.
 
2012-11-15 10:15:06 AM  

unexplained bacon: It seems to be a common theme among the wailing RWers I happen to know.
Just about all of them have been on food stamps or some other aid at some point in their life



www.foxnews.com 

"And did anyone help them out? NO!"
 
2012-11-15 10:15:22 AM  

SevenizGud: Defense is constitutional.


Um.... no it isn't. Actually, DoD spending is entirely discretionary.
Social Security, and Medicaid/Medicare, is mandated by law.
 
2012-11-15 10:15:38 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: SevenizGud: What I endorse is CUTTING SPENDING.

And what spending would you like to see cut?
Medicaid/Medicare?
Social Security?
Defense?

Or NPR/PBS funding.

Defense is constitutional. All the rest should be cut to zero immediately.


right, we'll tax everyone at 100% and put it all toward defense and everything will be great!!

/that's you, I'm doing an impression of you now.
 
2012-11-15 10:15:42 AM  
Can someone give SevenisGud a gold star for stupid please?
 
2012-11-15 10:15:54 AM  

SevenizGud: JusticeandIndependence: [poor give more.jpg]

Total bullshiat. Gates and Buffett are two of the richest people in the world, and they are giving almost everything away. So the most generous people are the richest people in the world, clearly.


so facts are wrong because I saw someone on TV giving away some money? Is that what you're going with?
 
2012-11-15 10:16:32 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: SevenizGud: What I endorse is CUTTING SPENDING.

And what spending would you like to see cut?
Medicaid/Medicare?
Social Security?
Defense?

Or NPR/PBS funding.

Defense is constitutional. All the rest should be cut to zero immediately.


A common defense through use of militia's would be the constitutional route. Hiding behind a piece of paper you haven't even read is weak.
 
2012-11-15 10:18:00 AM  
 
2012-11-15 10:19:05 AM  

CPennypacker: Can someone give SevenisGud a gold star for stupid please?


He's really upset at what he thinks happens with TANF benefits and recipients. All that's required to accomplish this is to ignore the facts about the program that have been provided.

But it's easier to ignore and scapegoat than to put forth even an ounce of humility and admit he doesn't know WTF he's whining about.
 
2012-11-15 10:20:16 AM  

neenerist: SevenizGud: And yet people do it rather than working. That's the whole point. Some people are perfectly satisfied to live in filth and squalid conditions as long as they don't have to get off their ass

So what? Congrats on discovering the Bell Curve. Now if you can demonstrate that the funds to maintain the tiny minority permanently at the far tip are so catastrophic in the big picture as to justify the hissy fit, or that by cutting them loose they'll quietly starve and die instead of costing more in medical support, law enforcement and social upheaval, you'll have the beginnings of a talking point.


Oh FSM! Really? A program the net result of which is people GETTING PAID to queef-water-shooting out a stream of career criminals...and reducing that program is somehow going to cause an increase in problems with law enforcement and social upheaval. Planet earth to whoever you are. Come in whoever you are.
 
2012-11-15 10:20:16 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: unexplained bacon: SevenizGud: HST's Dead Carcass: You've obviously never been on a Social Program in your life.

Uhm, actually, I have. I know, I know hypocrite and all that.

When I was in graduate school, and making almost nothing, and working in the lab about 60 hours a week on medical research, AND teaching undergrad courses, and taking graduate courses of my own, AND paying for the privilege to do so, I took advantage of a program that knocked 10% off my electric bill as long as I was under such-and-such kwh/month. So it saved me about $10/month.

I've never taken advantage of any government program like that...I consider myself lucky.

I'm glad it was there for you though.
It seems to be a common theme among the wailing RWers I happen to know.
Just about all of them have been on food stamps or some other aid at some point in their life, just about all of them went on to become productive citizens too.

do you see how that works?

how can you turn around and try to deny that help to someone else now?

Because he's a hypocrite?

I'm glad that anyone can get help, even if he turns into a hateful asshole who wants it to be unavailable to everyone else. When some people need help, they turn against those that helped them and want to erase the fact that they ever needed help. It's a shame.



more and more the angry modern RWers seem to have some sort of mental problem.
they're mad as hell at what they wrongly perceive and there's no talking them out of it.

often it just seems like thinly veiled racism, since they seem to blame minorities for using government aid almost exclusively, while simultaneously forgiving themselves for any aid they themselves took advantage of (that's different because *insert BS here). But it's more than just that, they seem ill to me.
 
2012-11-15 10:21:27 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Welp, anyone who thought this election might serve as a wake up call to the Republican Party can let go of that dream because it's simply not going to happen. On one hand, my inner four year old is cheering because "ha ha Republicans are too stupid to figure out why they lost and take corrective measures, so we're going to win even bigger in 2016." But my inner adult counters with "but that means America has to do without a sensible opposition party for the foreseeable future. That's not a good thing." We (America and Democrats) need a sensible opposition party to temper the excesses of the party in power, to craft compromise legislation that makes more than just one side happy, to bring alternative ideas to the table (sorry GOP, "no!" is not an alternative idea).

This is how it's going to be until that third party comes along.


This lack of an effective opposition party has me concerned, as well, though I am not at all convinced that an effective third party will come along. Or even that it is desirable. I have lived long enough to have been through a couple of instances of unitary government (Dem and GOP) that the very idea gives me the hives (figuratively speaking). Therefore, I am fairly comfortable with the Dems holding the WH and Senate, while th GOP holds the House. That means both side will have to compromise their extremes to get anything done. And the side that won't compromise at all will be painted into the same obstructionist corner the GOP ended up in after the debt ceiling debacle last year.

So, while the GOP holds the House the Dems will have to curb their strongest tax & spend proclivities, a Democratic President will be picking new supreme court justices, assuring a more progressive tone on the bench for years to come.

Moreover, the GOP can't really exercise their brand of leadership from the House. They can only react to initiatives from the WH, while the President beats them with a stick. Sure, they appropriate the money, but that's only really in reaction to the Administration agenda.

Of course, it's too early to declare definitively what the GOP will look like over the next couple of Congresses, but we can take a clue from this article, in which the Governors primarily see Romney's defeat as his fault, and that there is no need for substantive change to their narrative.

Good luck with that.
 
2012-11-15 10:21:31 AM  

jso2897: morlinge: jso2897: morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.

(notsureifserious.jpg)

It makes me want to make sure that my state is on the list to secede. If the democrats cannot play fairly with the republicans I think the only sensible thing is to take the ball and go home... crying... about the ref, and the fans, and the opposing players, and the court, the rules, the fact that their team isn't allowed to run with the ball and has to dribble, the fact that someone called them a name, and the fact that the expensive uniforms don't make a difference.

WTF am I reading? I get that the Republicans are being whiney sissies - but why would that kindle your interest in this 100% bogus "petition" bullshiat?


The point I was trying to make is that the republicans are being sore losers, complaining since the election ended, and calling the democrats bad sports.
 
2012-11-15 10:21:59 AM  

unexplained bacon: who exactly are you mad at?


The people who vote to reward failure aka the dumbocraps.
 
2012-11-15 10:22:43 AM  

Kibbler: From now on, flipflops will be called foot mittens.


HAH! I'm so stealing that.
 
2012-11-15 10:22:47 AM  

SevenizGud: Defense is constitutional. All the rest should be cut to zero immediately.


Is it Constitutionally protected from ever being reduced?
 
2012-11-15 10:23:41 AM  

SevenizGud: Total bullshiat. Gates and Buffett are two of the richest people in the world, and they are giving almost everything away. So the most generous people are the richest people in the world, clearly.


You know, you guys already deluded yourselves into thinking you were winning the election because you didn't understand the concept of "outliers". I'd have thought you'd have looked it up by now.
 
2012-11-15 10:24:00 AM  

Kibbler: From now on, flipflops will be called foot mittens.


Nice! Hope that catches on.
 
2012-11-15 10:24:06 AM  

SevenizGud: The people who vote to reward failure aka the dumbocraps.


When you applied for the 10% relief of your utilities, it's because you needed it, but when minorities do it it's all because they want a free ride and don't wanna work for stuff.

There's the fundamental difference.

Again, I say: Spend some time working on the solution instead of having misconceptions about it all.

I triple dog dare you.
 
2012-11-15 10:25:16 AM  

SevenizGud: Xcott: If you end up being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, that's your fault for not taking personal responsibility for your "self."

Yeah, it's clearly someone else's fault. They should be held accountable for my health care.


I'm starting to see the problem here: you're equating taxes with blame.

For example, if I have a health insurance plan that covers a severe illness, that means the insurance company thinks my illness is "someone else's fault." Because it's coming out of other people's premiums, right? If my house burns down and my home insurance pays for it, that means I'm blaming everyone else for my house fire.

And if the government pays to repair flood damage with county money, that means they're blaming me, the taxpayer, for making that flood. Because they're using my money to pay for it.

Under this weirdly juvenile understanding of insurance, the very concept of insurance flies in the face of personal responsibility. So does the concept of taxation---not just high taxes, but any taxes---because it's wrong to have to pay for anything that isn't your fault.

Maybe a compromise solution is to keep the system the way it is, and anyone who objects on these grounds can be herded to a playground to spend the next 4 years fighting over how to divide a large bag of M&Ms.
 
2012-11-15 10:25:28 AM  
Here you go, SevenizGud

opensourcebridge.org

Remember: Its easy to be stupid, but its hard to be this stupid.
 
2012-11-15 10:26:49 AM  

CPennypacker: Can someone give SevenisGud a gold star for stupid please?


Oh sure, now you want to give handouts.

/Yes, he is probably the stupidest person I have seen on Fark so far.
 
2012-11-15 10:26:51 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: so facts are wrong because I saw someone on TV giving away some money?


What "facts"? The graphic stated that the poorest give the most, which is demonstrably untrue, and I demonstrated it. The graphic showed giving as a percent, and showed the poor group. What it did not do, however, was show the ultra-rich group, which gives EVEN GREATER percentage than that ascribed to the poor group in the graphic. The graphic LEFT OUT the whole group.

So the graphic would be true if it was labeled "the poor give the most, except for the rich, who give more."
 
2012-11-15 10:27:38 AM  
You're all being trolled, I think...

Don't get me wrong, it's fun and a great way to pass the time, and it provides some comedy gold, but yeah...
 
2012-11-15 10:28:58 AM  
(on Romney)

He was who we thought he was!

1.bp.blogspot.com

But we didn't let him off the hook.
 
2012-11-15 10:29:14 AM  

SevenizGud: Cinaed: Nitpicking... but how is someone making 25k-35k a year 'sitting on their ass'?

If you are making less than 35K how could you be doing anything other than sitting on your ass? Unless you are just completely idiotic, and doing something like mowing lawns for $1 per lawn.

If you take advantage of all the various Uncle Sucker programs it comes out to about $22K/year. So why would you even bother doing something other than sitting on your ass down on filth-and-muck end of the ladder?


What a job sitting on your ass for under $35K/year may look like:

Mechanic - $13-$15 Hour+Commision
Location:
Burbank, OH
Job Description
Title: Mechanic

Reports To: Shop General Manager

Job Summary: The Mechanic will be responsible for Tire Sales and Service, Roadside Assistance, Heavy duty repairs, and General preventative maintenance of Class A and B vehicles. Basic computer skills and any other reasonable and ethical request made by a direct supervisor for the location.

Responsibilities:

Heavy duty repairs including the following: Servicing, diagnosis and repair of engine oil, transmission oil, rear and front differential oil, power steering oil, filters, Electrical, air, fuel and air conditioning systems, wheel end assemblies, drive line assemblies and but not to include any internal components of the differentials, transmission or Motor.
Tire Sales and Service including the sale, removal, and replacement of tires up to but not limited to commercial vehicles. Inventory Control
Roadside Assistance including assisting customers with roadside services up to but not limited to jump-starts, fuel delivery, belts, hoses, brakes and wheel-end assemblies.


Requirements
1-2 years Experience in Class A vehicle repairs
Must be able to work at least 35 hours a week
Ability to work a variety of shift including nights and weekends
Basic computers and data-entry skills required
Valid driver's license required
Criminal Background, MVR, and Drug Screen required
A/C certification a plus.
Must be able to lift minimum 50 pounds. (ex. changing commercial tires)
Must be able to work in close quarters. (ex. commercial vehicle wheel wells)
Mechanically Inclined
Must be able to follow directions and learn new skills quickly


COME GROW WITH LOVE'S!

Love's is an Equal Opportunity Employer
 
2012-11-15 10:29:50 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: SevenizGud: JusticeandIndependence: [poor give more.jpg]

Total bullshiat. Gates and Buffett are two of the richest people in the world, and they are giving almost everything away. So the most generous people are the richest people in the world, clearly.

The rich aren't the most generous. Middle-class Americans give a far bigger share of their discretionary income to charities than the rich. Households that earn $50,000 to $75,000 give an average of 7.6 percent of their discretionary income to charity, compared with an average of 4.2 percent for people who make $100,000 or more. In the Washington metropolitan area, for example, low- and middle-income communities like Suitland, Md., and Capitol Heights, Md., donate a much bigger share of discretionary income than do wealthier communities like Bethesda, Md., and McLean, Va.


How about people with net worths more than $10 billion as a percent of net worth given away during their life?

Again, the most generous people are the richest.
 
2012-11-15 10:30:27 AM  

SevenizGud: unexplained bacon: who exactly are you mad at?

The people who vote to reward failure aka the dumbocraps.


that's pathetic.

try again, I'm seriously wondering if you even know.

whose failure are the "dumbocraps" (really?) rewarding exactly?
can't you even explain your anger? you're swinging at shadows, look at yourself.

get a grip.
 
2012-11-15 10:32:23 AM  

SevenizGud: JusticeandIndependence: so facts are wrong because I saw someone on TV giving away some money?

What "facts"? The graphic stated that the poorest give the most, which is demonstrably untrue, and I demonstrated it. The graphic showed giving as a percent, and showed the poor group. What it did not do, however, was show the ultra-rich group, which gives EVEN GREATER percentage than that ascribed to the poor group in the graphic. The graphic LEFT OUT the whole group.

So the graphic would be true if it was labeled "the poor give the most, except for the rich, who give more."


So, you're complaining about those pesky 'facts' again. The facts are: You and your kind were rejected, and left behind. You're on our dime now, we're the majority and you have to listen to us, not the other way around. Get used to it, it's gonna be this way for a long time.

I just want to point out: You're free to be wrong as often as you like, just as we're free to point, laugh and ridicule you at every turn.

Yes, like you've stated, you are a hypocrite. It's par the course for your kind, which is why we made sure your type was voted in. I'll tell you what we're all gonna do: We're gonna try to lift up the base of this country to make us all better. In doing so, we're going to tax the fark out of the rich. Our control, our rules. There isn't a farking thing you can do about it either. You are powerless and weak, left with only your skewed thinking and outdated morals to keep the fire of hatred burning deep within you.

And you know who is going to benefit the most? Minorities. Whitey is gonna take a back seat while we make sure the minorities FINALLY get theirs.
 
2012-11-15 10:34:44 AM  

keylock71: You're all being trolled, I think...

Don't get me wrong, it's fun and a great way to pass the time, and it provides some comedy gold, but yeah...


I've noticed it :D

Either he is trolling, or he is that farking stupid. Given the current state of the Right Wing, it's not unheard of for a Right Winger to be that farking stupid, but it's far and few between that they are this obstinate about their viewpoints.
 
2012-11-15 10:36:05 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: . In doing so, we're going to tax the fark out of the rich.


No, we're not. We're gonna MAYBE modestly raise rates on the rich. Taxing the fark out of them isn't even being discussed by anyone of importance to the process.
 
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