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2012-11-15 08:28:31 AM
Obama promised a bunch of free stuff if you voted for him. Political bribery or not, call it what you will, but that's what he did. It's been an inherent flaw in democracies for politicians to promise to give away to the masses more free stuff (which must, of course, first be taken from someone else in the population - a minority which everyone can scapegoat and no one will care about, like rich people).

Every one of you people commenting in this thread enjoy a standard of living your ancestors barely 100 years ago could ever dream of, yet you cry on and on about how the rich are fleecing you when (excluding rent seekers - a.k.a. political cronies who corrupt the market through government intervention to extract economic rents - i.e. most of Obama's wealthy backers) you can only become rich in the private sector by producing the best good or providing the best service for the lowest cost to make consumers (i.e. all of us) better off. Mutually beneficial exchange happens all the time in a market economy, and thieves rarely ever last long enough to become massively wealthy (without the help of government cronies, of course). Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?

/mercantilists, the lot of you


max_pooper: No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.


Curious - which counties? Without looking them up, I'm assuming the ones around Palo Alto, San Francisco, Detroit, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, and other heavily blue areas where groupthink abounds? Some of the richest counties are the ones surrounding DC alone - sounds to me like they were a bunch of cronies who got rich by buying off the right people to give themselves perks. Go ahead and keep trying to draw your tenuous correlations to support your broadbrushing statement, and keep rooting for your political football team, though. Rich people who vote for Obama are OBVIOUSLY all unselfish while rich people who vote against Obama are OBVIOUSLY all selfish.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:03 AM

Mcavity: Annnnd THIS is why you loose.

/ I'm beginning to think the "R" stands for retarded...


'R' stands for something else.

/rhymes with "shmotsky"
//sorry
///had to
 
2012-11-15 08:30:04 AM

Hydra: Obama promised a bunch of free stuff if you voted for him. Political bribery or not, call it what you will, but that's what he did. It's been an inherent flaw in democracies for politicians to promise to give away to the masses more free stuff (which must, of course, first be taken from someone else in the population - a minority which everyone can scapegoat and no one will care about, like rich people).

Every one of you people commenting in this thread enjoy a standard of living your ancestors barely 100 years ago could ever dream of, yet you cry on and on about how the rich are fleecing you when (excluding rent seekers - a.k.a. political cronies who corrupt the market through government intervention to extract economic rents - i.e. most of Obama's wealthy backers) you can only become rich in the private sector by producing the best good or providing the best service for the lowest cost to make consumers (i.e. all of us) better off. Mutually beneficial exchange happens all the time in a market economy, and thieves rarely ever last long enough to become massively wealthy (without the help of government cronies, of course). Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?

/mercantilists, the lot of you


max_pooper: No, Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in this country. Not all wealthy people are selfish, poor hating dick bags, just the ones that vote Republican.

Curious - which counties? Without looking them up, I'm assuming the ones around Palo Alto, San Francisco, Detroit, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, and other heavily blue areas where groupthink abounds? Some of the richest counties are the ones surrounding DC alone - sounds to me like they were a bunch of cronies who got rich by buying off the right people to give themselves perks. Go ahead and keep trying to draw your tenuous correlations to support your broadbrushing statement, and keep rooting for your political football team, though. Rich people who vote for Obama are OBVIOUSLY all unselfish while r ...


Look at this. Look at this and laugh.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:07 AM
Mitt promised to cut my taxes 20%, increase military spending, let me take my SS money and invest it in the stock market so I could make millions for my retirement, eliminate the parts of Obamacare I don't like, but keep the parts of Obamacare I did like, not reduce or eliminate any government programs I liked, including education, add 12 million jobs, and do all the above by balancing the budget. If I was willing to be bought by a politician making promises to give me stuff without a means to pay for it, I would have voted Romney in a heartbeat.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:07 AM

hubcity: So the guy who's working, paying his fair share, but only making $35k a year, is a leech. Got it. I'll update the Urban Dictionary.


While we're talking about dictionaries, go ahead and define "fair share" as objectively and as freely from emotion as you can.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:49 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: Romney circa 11/12: The minorities were bribed to vote for Obama!


Romney's too blinkered and cloistered an idiot to see the deep racism in that statement. Non-whites don't vote by considering their wider best interests and that of their families, they vote for free-Walmart days. Not being smart enough to keep those thoughts to his golf club buddies reaffirms his complete lack of qualities for presidency, something the citizens of London, for example, already understand. America dodge a bullet on that one.
 
2012-11-15 08:31:11 AM
It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.
 
2012-11-15 08:31:34 AM

CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.


There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:14 AM

theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.


It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:37 AM

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


Laugh even harder at this when you're done.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM

skinink: I'm okay with his assumption, if it means the GOP also believes it which will cause them to continuously lose Elections.


The Democratic side of me agrees, but the human side of me thinks it must really suck to be poor or a minority and see one of the two major political parties openly calling you a leech and acting like you deserve to die.
 
2012-11-15 08:32:52 AM

sprawl15: What a ballgargling shiatcandidate.


Now now, to his credit when he lost he didn't call in the lawyers. He didn't turn it into a clusterfark in the only real and true way that someone of his wealth knows how. I honestly gave it a 50/50 chance that it was going to go that way no matter what.

But he didn't. And it pains me to say it, but that is to his credit.

However with a man of such extreme hubris I fear to say that he's not going away, or at least not without some parting shots. It's mostly just impotent rage over the fact that he now holds no public office for all that he spent and the general consensus is that he us largely unwanted for a gig like that in any state.

Pay it no mind. It's Nixon's "you won't have me to kick around anymore" moment.
 
2012-11-15 08:33:39 AM

Blathering Idjut: In his heart Romney never conceded. Because why? Unpatriotic douchebag.


Romney's policy interests and patriotism are chalk and cheese.
 
2012-11-15 08:35:50 AM
I like this new "whiny little biatch" Romney. He makes me laugh.

"Waaah! Obama won because he promised to give constituents things!"

"Like how you promised 8 million jobs to people?"

"...that's different."
 
2012-11-15 08:36:30 AM

Skarekrough: Now now, to his credit when he lost he didn't call in the lawyers.


That's because he didn't even have a chance of winning that fight. Were it closer, you bet your ass he would have hauled in the lawyers. Remember, they were utterly convinced that their internal shiatpolling was accurate, such that it would likely be easier for them to believe in fraud than believe in them losing so badly.
 
2012-11-15 08:36:39 AM

sprawl15: unexplained bacon: sidenote...watched Newt's interview on Colbert....I'm shocked to say that he actually seemed to be introspective and blamed the GOP directly and not the people who didn't vote for them. Must be a con of some sort, I know, but still I was surprised.

Good politicians know that the month after the election is the best time to lay some blame on yourself - it makes you look good and doesn't cost you anything. Newt may be half scrotum, but he's from the older breed that still knew how to politic.


He doesn't seem to have a lot of company in the GOP. I can't imagine this will work out well for them.
 
2012-11-15 08:36:49 AM
For those who are lucky enough to know no psychopathic individuals, allow me to present Willard Rmoney: narcissism personified to the point where we are going to hear rationalizations from a rich feck
for the next decade...
 
2012-11-15 08:37:15 AM

Hydra: theknuckler_33: It's really amusing seeing conservatives behaving as if only conservatives pay taxes.

It's amusing seeing progressives behaving as if only progressives are unselfish or care about others.


Conservatives did not really provide much proofs to the contrary, this election year.
 
2012-11-15 08:38:43 AM

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


images.businessweek.com
 
2012-11-15 08:38:51 AM
Why is he even still talking? Certainly he's out of the politics game for good.
 
2012-11-15 08:39:24 AM
Hispanic voter. Immigrant. College educated. Voted for Obama

WHERE'S MY DAMN FREEBIE?!?!?! Because I just paid my student loans. I sure could have used those $300.
 
2012-11-15 08:40:48 AM
Some Adam Smith quotes for the Derpers:

"Whenever the legislature attempts to regulate the differences between masters and their workmen, its counsellors are always the masters. When the regulation, therefore, is in favor of the workmen, it is always just and equitable; but it is sometimes otherwise when in favor of the masters."

"The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."


"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind. "

"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expence, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion. "

"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship, the rich and powerful, and to despise or, at least, neglect persons of poor and mean conditions, though necessary both to establish and to maintain the distinction of ranks and the order of society, is, at the same time, the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments."
 
2012-11-15 08:40:55 AM

Mugato: You know, thinking about it, I haven't heard anyone say anything positive about Romney ever, except him and his family. Not even at the RNC, really, even though I didn't watch it all. That's rare. Even Dukakis had some people with a kind word or two.


exactly.

the whole campaign was anti-Obama...not even actual Obama, but FOX fiction Obama. It's all negative attacks mostly aimed at a BS strawman

then they lose and go straight into attacks on strawman voters who didn't vote for them because they want "free stuff".

you mean people want access to healthcare? food? jobs?
those sons-a-biatches!
 
2012-11-15 08:41:03 AM

Hydra: Have any of you ever read Adam Smith?


Yeah.. Here is something Adam Smith said pertinent to this conversation:

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."
 
2012-11-15 08:41:36 AM
Meanwhile, Tagg was gathering his family friends together under a private-equity fund in anticipation of the taxpayer-funded handouts they would be able to grift under a Romney presidency. The fact that all Romney has to defend himself is projection comes as no surprise. It's all he or the GOP has ever had.
 
2012-11-15 08:42:11 AM

Hydra: There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


...coherent. You strung a sequence of disconnected elements together into accusations, and as is mandatory for the Right, without a stitch of exposition or evidence. Rent seekers? Obama used his time machine to push through TARP? 
You do understand AM talk radio and Fox are for rage entertainment only?
 
2012-11-15 08:42:13 AM

dudemanbro: Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes


Yeah, because the auto bailout wasn't designed to win Ohio.

And welfare isn't a democrat vote-breeding project.
 
2012-11-15 08:43:14 AM
Where are your tax returns, Mitt?
What is your position on abortion. One position, not one you'll adjust later this afternoon.
Do you support equal pay for equal work? Yes or no.
What will you replace the ACA with. Provide details that wine be walked back tomorrow.
What is your budget plan? "Policies to promote growth" isn't a plan. Give details - tax rate and deduction changes. The budget kicks in in a few weeks so you must have something concrete.
Why did you tell an audience that 47% of the population doesn't matter, then turn around and say you care about 100% of Americans?
Who are you?
 
2012-11-15 08:43:20 AM
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-15 08:43:26 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-15 08:44:20 AM
It pleases me to know that Mitt's loss is going to burn, unrelentingly, like a cinder in his mind every day for the rest of his life. What a horrible human being. Let him suffer.
 
2012-11-15 08:44:32 AM

Aldon: Free stuff for the 1%: Reduced taxes
Free stuff for corporations: Reduce taxes.


Yeah, because letting people keep some of their income is the same as giving them stuff.

Liberal logic right there, ladies and germs.
 
2012-11-15 08:45:21 AM
The pressure and intimidation worked well too.
 
2012-11-15 08:45:59 AM
I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.
 
2012-11-15 08:46:43 AM
How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives. For Moroni's sake, that's what emergency rooms are for!
 
2012-11-15 08:46:56 AM

Hydra: CPennypacker: Look at this. Look at this and laugh.

There's nothing in that statement that's incorrect.


There's nothing in it that is correct, either. It's a list of your subjective opinions. You are entitled to them, but that doesn't make them facts.
 
2012-11-15 08:48:00 AM

SevenizGud: Yeah, because letting people keep some of their income is the same as giving them stuff.

Liberal logic right there, ladies and germ


Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.
 
2012-11-15 08:49:04 AM

CPennypacker:

Laugh even harder at this when you're done.


Can't.Breathe.Must.Stop.Laughing.


[republicanbutthurteverywhere.jpg]
 
2012-11-15 08:49:36 AM

morlinge: I think all this article proves is how much the democrats love to gloat after their victory. Clearly the republican party is trying to be the bigger man, but the democrats just cannot stop spiking the ball. Really disgraceful.


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2012-11-15 08:49:38 AM

Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives


Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?
 
2012-11-15 08:50:09 AM

It's easy to just swipe at Mitt, and apparently the voyage from magnanimous concession to biatchy loser is a short one, but Romney's points are extremely weak.

College loan rates: Obama signed a bill passed by Congress that prevented what would have been a doubling in college loan interest rates due to the structure of the laws that set up that system. Nobody wanted that, left or right, which is why it managed to pass through Congress in an election year.
Contraceptive coverage: This isn't a giveaway of any sort. It says that if you offer health insurance, you need to cover contraception. That means you pay for it in your health insurance. It's as "free" as the "free" drink you get in your McDonalds combo meal.
Keeping college-aged people on their parents' health insurance: Again, not free. Mom and dad are simply allowed to keep paying for young adult kids on their plan as they establish themselves.
Health care for the poor: Yes, finally we get to something the government will be subsidizing. But we're also going to be keeping the poor & indigent out of emergency rooms and other emergent care facilities by keeping them healthy in the first place. In the end it'll be more efficient and people overall will be healthier. What do you want - to give them free check-ups and basic healthcare now, or wait until they're at the emergency room with expensive major problems?


Listening to a guy with hundreds of millions be so upset - nay, angry - that poor families with kids making $20-35K might be getting regular health care the rest of us are paying for is galling. How do you tell someone their kid can't get regular check-ups because they're poor and you don't want your government to help them? How does he look at his own cute little grandkids and think "eh, those other poor kids that aren't ours, fark 'em." How does that even begin to square with his faith?
 
2012-11-15 08:51:16 AM

neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.


Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.
 
2012-11-15 08:52:30 AM
Boy oh boy did we ever dodge a bullet this election. Can you imagine this douchnozzle as president?!?!?
 
2012-11-15 08:52:38 AM

SevenizGud: dudemanbro: Calling people "son" is totally douchey. And by the way, Obama Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters With Their Taxes

Yeah, because the auto bailout wasn't designed to win Ohio.


So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.

And welfare isn't a democrat vote-breeding project.

Poor people don't vote in big numbers.

OTOH promising to cut social security, voucherize Medicare, raise taxes on middle class folks and generally fark over the majority of the American voting population making under 250k a year isn't a winning electoral strategy. Go figure.
 
2012-11-15 08:53:20 AM

SevenizGud: Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


Exactly! I have $500,000 dollars stashed back in case a serious illness crops up. Don't you, Mr. Bootstraps?
 
2012-11-15 08:53:23 AM
So if offering healthcare to low-income citizens is a "gift," then what the fark do you call a 20% tax cut?
 
2012-11-15 08:53:57 AM

SevenizGud: Whiskey Pete: How dare THOSE people thinking that they are ENTITLED to affordable healthcare so that a major illness doesn't saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives

Yeah! Why should I have to be responsible for myself?


You aren't. Like the rest of us, you are dependent upon human society for your very survival.
If society had not supported and protected you in a myriad of ways throuhout your life - you would not exist.
Under pre-civilization conditions, your soft, coddled, civilized ass would last about 15 seconds.
If you were solely responsible for yourself, you would be long dead - if you'd ever been born at all.
 
2012-11-15 08:55:27 AM

Blathering Idjut: So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.


I don't know who "you guys" are. I was always against the bailout. In fact, I was for the razing of Detroit years before the automakers went bankrupt...just like I was for the bulldozing of New Orleans even BEFORE Katrina.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:12 AM

SevenizGud: neenerist: Learning the difference between 'some' and 'all' - otherwise generalized to degree - will raise your arguments above the schoolyard level.

Whatever. Taxing someone less is not giving them anything. It's taking less from them.


Only if you don't regard taxes as an obligation - a bill to be paid. Otherwise, a discount off those taxes is, in fact, a subsidy.
Of course, if you subscribe to the "taxation is theft" school, the discussion is over, and I have no point to make.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:32 AM

SevenizGud: Blathering Idjut: So we're back to arguing that saving Detroit was a bad thing? You guys give me whiplash.

I don't know who "you guys" are. I was always against the bailout. In fact, I was for the razing of Detroit years before the automakers went bankrupt...just like I was for the bulldozing of New Orleans even BEFORE Katrina.


And I'm sure you are now in favor of leveling New Jersey, right?
 
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