If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Huffington Post)   Man who owns 40 Denny's restaurants says he's adding a 5% charge to your bill to cover Obamacare, suggests you tip the server less if you have a problem with it   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 436
    More: Asinine, John Metz, obamacare, Hurricane Grill & Wings, franchisee, Ohio Democratic Party, vote with their feet, Westgate Resorts, employee benefit  
•       •       •

4288 clicks; posted to Politics » on 15 Nov 2012 at 2:02 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



436 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-11-14 10:32:31 PM
i.huffpost.com

Who's taking the Over/Under on when this asshole publicly recants his douchebaggery because of all the missing customers?
 
2012-11-14 10:33:40 PM
Who didn't see this coming? When you tax a business (which is what Obama care is according to SCOTUS), that increased cost will be passed to the customers and/or taken out on the employees. Do you think the bosses are just going to eat the cost out of the company profit, if there is any?
 
2012-11-14 10:35:08 PM
I don't mind paying a little more when I go out if it helps people get healthcare.

But I really wish we had single payer.
 
2012-11-14 10:36:04 PM

knbber2: Who didn't see this coming? When you tax a business (which is what Obama care is according to SCOTUS), that increased cost will be passed to the customers and/or taken out on the employees. Do you think the bosses are just going to eat the cost out of the company profit, if there is any?


Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. THe surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.
 
2012-11-14 10:37:10 PM
Why is it the douchebags running the crappiest eateries that are making such a loud big deal of their sh*tty attitudes?

/suck it. it's done and your whiny temper tantrum isn't going to change it
 
2012-11-14 10:38:15 PM
FTFA: "If I leave the prices the same, but say on the menu that there is a 5 percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare," Metz told The Huffington Post. "Although it may sound terrible that I'm doing this, it's the only alternative. I've got to pass the cost on to the consumer."

Option 3: Don't patronize your greasy spoon. The free market at work, biatch.
 
2012-11-14 10:40:30 PM

Ambivalence: Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. THe surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.


Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...
 
2012-11-14 10:43:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Why is it the douchebags running the crappiest eateries that are making such a loud big deal of their sh*tty attitudes?

/suck it. it's done and your whiny temper tantrum isn't going to change it


Because people that make shiatty food and sell it in shiatty chain restaurants have shiatty attitudes and, apparently, a significantly overinflated sense of self-worth which compels them to make shiatty public statements like these.

But somehow, somewhere, someone is going to go to Denny's and eat their shiatty-shiatty-flappy-wappy breakfast to support this shiathead. Then they'll get an overpriced fried chicken sandwich for lunch, because fark the gays, and finish it off with one of the worst pizzas ever made deliverable to your door.

Thankfully these jagoffs will die from heart disease and we'll be done with them if they keep it up.
 
2012-11-14 10:43:35 PM
Which just goes to prove: left to their own devices, free of any regulation or government interference, benevolent business owners will always do the right thing.
 
2012-11-14 10:44:07 PM
I have no problem paying 5% at Denny's to cover the health care of the employees. The food at Denny's, that I have a problem with.
 
2012-11-14 10:44:55 PM

knbber2: Ambivalence: Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. THe surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.

Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...


I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.
 
2012-11-14 10:48:24 PM

knbber2: Ambivalence: Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. THe surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.

Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...


Don't think for a second anyone here is buying your "Obamacare is causing these potential layoffs" nonsense. Prices go up all the time for a variety of reasons, including healthcare, and he could have easily just raised them without fanfare. He's trying to make a name for himself and make a political statement, and he is putting the jobs of his employees at risk by making a splash like this. All because he would rather detract from healthcare reform, than ensure his own employees have the health coverage they need.

It says something about your character, that you defend his right to be a dick, instead of defending his less fortunate employees for having to suffer his grandstanding at the potential expense of their jobs.
 
2012-11-14 10:49:36 PM

queezyweezel: I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.


Exactly. That's what people are going to see and notice. Especially since tips don't come from the owner's pocket to begin with.

he's too much of a coward to actually raise his prices, so he's taking it out on his employees instead. Just look at how he phrased it. "They're the ones who need it the most" so he's going to punish them the most.

ANd if tips decline, he'll lose waitstaff as they go to somewhere that's not going to try and screw them. And word will get around that his places are terrible to work, which means there wil be less of a pool from him to draw from.

free market ftw.
 
2012-11-14 10:49:39 PM

queezyweezel: I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.


Yeah, I can agree with that.
 
2012-11-14 10:51:46 PM

queezyweezel: knbber2: Ambivalence: Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. THe surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.

Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...

I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.


Maybe it will all work out for him. He could end up staffed by nothing but meth heads and embezzlers. Or, even better, maybe it would be a good time for the SEIU to expand into Denny's. Or both. I care not.
 
2012-11-14 10:53:34 PM

knbber2: queezyweezel: I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.

Yeah, I can agree with that.


You dare criticize the Holy Job Creator?
 
2012-11-14 10:55:38 PM

Elandriel: It says something about your character, that you defend his right to be a dick, instead of defending his less fortunate employees for having to suffer his grandstanding at the potential expense of their jobs.


Lighten up, this has nothing to do with my character, I simple made an observation. I agree the tip thing is a dick move, but you have the right to be a dick, look at 95% of congress. Any tax will be passed to the consumer and possibly the employees, it's the market. If you don't like the fee increase or his grandstanding, DON'T EAT THERE. And I didn't say Obamacare would necessarily lead to layoffs, that has yet to be seen definitively. But if the increased cost or his dick statements cause a decrease in business, it is inevitable.
 
2012-11-14 10:57:22 PM

knbber2: And I didn't say Obamacare would necessarily lead to layoffs,


knbber2: When you tax a business (which is what Obama care is according to SCOTUS), that increased cost will be passed to the customers and/or taken out on the employees. Do you think the bosses are just going to eat the cost out of the company profit, if there is any?


And bullshiat. You can't even avoid contradicting yourself in the same thread.
 
2012-11-14 10:57:50 PM

knbber2: Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...


Actually FLoritard you do not understand the free market to well, Another Business will come along not charge the a$$hole surcharge and hire his employees away due to his increased volume of business, he will gain dollar profit due to increased traffic and in a year he will buy those Denny's at the bankruptcy auction!

In the REAL free market any challenge like this is an opportunity to kick you competition A$$ all the way to the bank!
 
2012-11-14 10:58:08 PM

GAT_00: You dare criticize the Holy Job Creator?


Yeah, he made an asshat statement, I would never encourage anyone to decrease tips. He's a dick, and yes he does create, or eliminate jobs, nothing holy about it unless he has a Dennys in a church.
 
2012-11-14 11:01:29 PM

Azlefty: knbber2: Does it really matter? You pay 5% more either way. Guess he just wanted customers to know why, which is his decision. Don't like it, don't buy the product. Of course that will cause layoffs...and the spiral begins...

Actually FLoritard you do not understand the free market to well, Another Business will come along not charge the a$$hole surcharge and hire his employees away due to his increased volume of business, he will gain dollar profit due to increased traffic and in a year he will buy those Denny's at the bankruptcy auction!

In the REAL free market any challenge like this is an opportunity to kick you competition A$$ all the way to the bank!


Exactly. Any businessman worth his salt would be able to come up with a marketing campaign along the lines of "Regardless of how you think about ObamaCare, we can all agree that asking your customers to tip the waitstaff less is out of line. Come to Benny's where we encourage you to treat our waitstaff fairly and tip them based upon our world class service. After all. A happy waiter is a good waiter"
 
2012-11-14 11:02:44 PM
America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.
 
2012-11-14 11:02:45 PM

GAT_00: knbber2: And I didn't say Obamacare would necessarily lead to layoffs,

knbber2: When you tax a business (which is what Obama care is according to SCOTUS), that increased cost will be passed to the customers and/or taken out on the employees. Do you think the bosses are just going to eat the cost out of the company profit, if there is any?

And bullshiat. You can't even avoid contradicting yourself in the same thread.


What tax is this guy paying anyhow that would add 5% to his costs? Is he one of those shiatheads that pays the sub-minimum wage for service employees almost completely across the board and makes no efforts to provide or even make insurance available?

Maybe Denny's should go out of business. I'm pretty sure waitstaff jobs are still easy to come by. I still think it would be funnier if Denny's unionized.
 
2012-11-14 11:04:16 PM

fiver5: America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.


You've posted this exact thing in how many threads now? Come up with something original or be surpassed by superior posters who deliver a higher quality derp.
 
2012-11-14 11:04:35 PM

GAT_00: And bullshiat. You can't even avoid contradicting yourself in the same thread.


Read it again, slowly so you can understand; increased costs and/OR taken out on the employees. That does not necessarily mean layoffs, it may only be prices increases or decreased hours.

Azlefty: Actually FLoritard you do not understand the free market to well, Another Business will come along not charge the a$$hole surcharge and hire his employees away due to his increased volume of business, he will gain dollar profit due to increased traffic and in a year he will buy those Denny's at the bankruptcy auction!


Good luck with that, like the name calling right off the bat. Try "too" as opposed to "to" every once in a while, random capitalization is a nice touch. If you haven't noticed, the employees at Dennys are not normally headhunted at a high rate, thus your scenario, although possible, is not probable.
 
2012-11-14 11:06:34 PM

knbber2: Good luck with that, like the name calling right off the bat. Try "too" as opposed to "to" every once in a while, random capitalization is a nice touch. If you haven't noticed, the employees at Dennys are not normally headhunted at a high rate, thus your scenario, although possible, is not probable.


If I owned a restaurant in the area, that'd be the first lace I'd go, and I'd be able to poach damn near anyone with one simple sentence.

"I won't encourage the customers to tip you less like this asshole" And you know anyone who would encourage his customers to tip his employees less is probably a dick of a boss to begin with.
 
2012-11-14 11:08:11 PM
And to all you Libs who keep attacking: I AGREE THIS GUY IS A DICK. Mark it down, something we agree upon. If you want to take him down, get organized and do it, you are free to do so. Not sure if it will help the employees you are concerned with, at least in the short term, but nobody makes you go to Dennys.
 
2012-11-14 11:08:33 PM
And the best part would be that it wouldn't increase my costs by a dime all other things considered. If I need a new employee, I'd be hiring them no matter what. So not only would I be able to meet the demands of my consumers, I'd be able to weaken a competitor at the same time.

capitalism.
 
2012-11-14 11:10:37 PM

Aarontology: If I owned a restaurant in the area, that'd be the first lace I'd go, and I'd be able to poach damn near anyone with one simple sentence.


I would too, the problem is that now-a-days there are more workers than openings, the opportunities to poach to an open position may be limited.

Aarontology: "I won't encourage the customers to tip you less like this asshole" And you know anyone who would encourage his customers to tip his employees less is probably a dick of a boss to begin with.


That would work and I would agree with it.
 
2012-11-14 11:14:31 PM

Aarontology: queezyweezel: I think the real dick move here is this asshole encouraging people to tip his employees less.

Exactly. That's what people are going to see and notice. Especially since tips don't come from the owner's pocket to begin with.

he's too much of a coward to actually raise his prices, so he's taking it out on his employees instead. Just look at how he phrased it. "They're the ones who need it the most" so he's going to punish them the most.

ANd if tips decline, he'll lose waitstaff as they go to somewhere that's not going to try and screw them. And word will get around that his places are terrible to work, which means there wil be less of a pool from him to draw from.

free market ftw.


The funny thing is that his costs are most likely increasing due to the record drought this year which followed flooding and drought last year, and I sort of recall some minor crop issues the year before (too lazy to look it up right now though). The healthcare thing is probably far less than the increases in food and fuel costs at this point.
 
2012-11-14 11:14:58 PM
It's his business and he by no means has any kind of monopoly on a product. So he can price the "food" how ever he wants.
 
2012-11-14 11:15:23 PM
So he's adding a 5% surcharge due to Obamacare, but cutting most of his employees' hours to 28 or less per week so he won't have to cover the costs of Obamacare.

FARKING ASSHOLE.
 
2012-11-14 11:15:48 PM

fiver5: America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.


Exactly. Equal rights, ending wars, fair pay.....it's downright godawful. Now if we could just get rid of the assholes like you...
 
2012-11-14 11:20:56 PM

queezyweezel: fiver5: America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.

Exactly. Equal rights, ending wars, fair pay.....it's downright godawful. Now if we could just get rid of the assholes like you...


*snert*
 
2012-11-14 11:28:06 PM

knbber2: Any tax will be passed to the consumer and possibly the employees,


No, that's not the case. Suppose there's a 5% industry wide increase in the cost of doing business. Sure, some jackass will try to pass the entire cost to the consumer but invariably there will be a competitor who passes on only 3%, or a competitor who was so well positioned that they don't pass the cost increase to the consumer at all and attempt to gain market share by having a cheaper product.

I hear this line of bullshiat all the time when a company is fined or has to pay a settlement for some reason. OMG THANKS FOR SUING DERPCORP! They'll just make the customer pay more!

This is nonsense. If they could squeeze that extra cash out of consumers they would have before any fine/cost increase/settlement. In fact if they owe it to their shareholders to do just that.

Maybe this douchebag thinks he'll get a Chick-fil-A surge of support and maybe he will. But honestly I don't know that even the incredible lardasses that populate the southern US can support every dickbag restaurant that wants to inject itself into the political discourse.

Maybe they can. It's his gamble.
 
2012-11-14 11:33:57 PM
If I worked at one of his restaurants, I'd milk the ever-loving shiat out of this for sympathy tips. Meanwhile, I'd be looking for a human employer.
 
2012-11-14 11:35:12 PM
what a dick.
 
2012-11-14 11:41:19 PM
Finally, effective trickle down economics.
 
2012-11-14 11:46:00 PM
My god it's SO FARKING AWFUL to consider: everyone paying an extra FIFTY CENTS on a $10 bill so that people could have health insurance! Holy shiat the world is coming to an end.
 
2012-11-15 12:05:54 AM
John Metz said he will add a 5 percent surcharge to customers' bills to offset what he said are the increased costs of Obamacare, along with reducing his employees' hours.

If he hadn't dicked over his workers, I'd be ok with the additional surcharge. Sure, I think he's collecting a bit TOO much to cover the health care costs of his employees...but hey, so long as that money was specifically dedicated to covering medical expenses of his workers then i'm cool with it. At least I know the people making and serving my food aren't diseased plague bearers right?

but raising prices AND screwing over his workers just sounds like he's being an asshole just to be an asshole. yeah, we get it dude. you're a rich douchebag who thinks it's rockin' to screw over your min wage workers. because hey - JESUS! or maybe just 'socialisms'. either way, yer a dick. we know yer a dick, and now so does the rest of the world. wanna know what happens to your biz when you get a rep for douchebaggery? nothing good, that's what.
 
2012-11-15 12:06:08 AM

alexanderplatz: My god it's SO FARKING AWFUL to consider: everyone paying an extra FIFTY CENTS on a $10 bill so that people could have health insurance! Holy shiat the world is coming to an end.


I'd pay it. But I don't go to Denny's anymore since about 1998, since they totally farked me on a bill, wrong order, waited 40 minutes for food, etc. It was a disaster and the manager was a total choad.
 
2012-11-15 12:08:35 AM

fiver5: America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.


Because if there's ONE thing that really inspires consumer confidence in your restaurant biz, it's making DAMN sure that none of your employees can afford anti-biotics.
 
2012-11-15 12:09:44 AM
Wait, isn't Denny's the restaurant with crappy food that is constantly getting bad press for poor service to minority customers? Yeah, I'll continue taking my money elsewhere.
 
2012-11-15 12:12:58 AM
You know... this guy is a franchise holder

/I wonder how corp is going to take this publicity?
 
2012-11-15 12:15:20 AM

knbber2: And to all you Libs who keep attacking: I AGREE THIS GUY IS A DICK.


Nobody made you defend him.
 
2012-11-15 12:30:52 AM
Denny's?

So, this will impact tens of people. Seriously, people still eat there? Stop it. Stop it right now. You have a local greasy spoon. Go there.
 
2012-11-15 12:38:02 AM
This guy is basically telling the world "Hey, the food in my 40 restaurants will be loaded with every bodily fluid my staff can put into it!"

Seriously, who wants to eat food from a place where the employees handling it are treated like shiat.
 
2012-11-15 12:49:32 AM

Ambivalence: Taxes and cost increases are not usually passed on by "surcharges". Businesses increase the price for their goods and services. Add 5% to your prices if it costs that much. The surcharge is just putting a spotlight on it and making yourself a dick.


This... businesses pass lots of stuff along "to the customer". Making a line item and a public deal about it just means you are trying to be a political dick about it.

About the only major place I've seen a business actually try to break the costs down is gas stations, trying to point out they (the station itself) don't really control the price of gas.
 
2012-11-15 12:55:42 AM

fiver5: America wanted Obama, now America gets to reap the consequences.

Enjoy the liberal utopia you are all working to create. You deserve everything you get.


Thanks! I honestly couldn't be happier.
 
2012-11-15 01:04:39 AM
You know, I typed out a post about lighting children on fire and taking eyes out, but I thought better of it and refreshed.

Unbridled greed and CEO fiduciary duty to squeeze every penny out of consumers and fark the worker is really starting to wear on me.
 
Displayed 50 of 436 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report