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2012-11-15 12:04:35 AM  

MrEricSir: The worst part of Star Wars VII is going to be seeing Carrie Fisher in her old slave Leia costume.


I heard she's being considered to play Jabba, actually.
 
2012-11-15 12:05:03 AM  

meanmutton: ZeroCorpse: meanmutton: EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.

Since Disney took over Marvel Studios, they've stuck to the 3 a year schedule and they've been usually very good with one amazing movie and one terrible one. The movies, with their Rotten Tomatoes rating:

2010: Iron Man 2 (75%)
2011: X-Men: First Class (87%), Thor (77%), Captain America: The First Avenger (79%)
2012: The Avengers (92%), The Amazing Spider-Man (73%), Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (18%)

I don't get where the hate is coming from. Disney's track record with Marvel Studios has been shockingly, amazingly good. They took hit-or-miss super hero genre and kicked some incredible ass with it.

Plus, here's the kicker -- they all were amazing financial successes, even Ghost Rider. Every single one of them had a box office gross which more than doubled the cost to make the movies. Those 7 movies cost a combined $1.1 billion to make but grossed a total of around $4.2 billion in box office receipts.

Your observation would hold water IF the movies not in bold above were produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Disney. Unfortunately, as we keep pointing out, the film rights for Spider-Man, the X-Men, and Ghost Rider are not owned by Marvel Studios/Disney.

So only the titles in bold, above, are Disney releases. Each one of those has been "Fresh" on RT and generally liked by the fans.

You can't factor in the success/failure of films by Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox, or Columbia/Hyde Park when talking about Disney's success rate with Marvel properties. Disney had nothing to do with the success or failure of any X-Men, Spider-Man, or Ghost Rider movies, just as they'll have nothing to do with the success or failure of Sony's upcoming Fantastic Four reboot.

My list came from wikipedia's li ...


"Co-Produced" means that Marvel Studios had a guy on staff to contribute to the project (usually Avi Arad or some other Marvel business face) but that Marvel Studios didn't actually write, cast, film, or have any real control over the end result.

If they did, Peter Parker wouldn't have been a dick.
 
2012-11-15 12:06:27 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MrEricSir: The worst part of Star Wars VII is going to be seeing Carrie Fisher in her old slave Leia costume.

I heard she's being considered to play Jabba, actually.


When 56 years old you reach, look as good you will not
 
2012-11-15 12:07:05 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: AS LONG AS WE GET ANOTHER EWOK MOVIE. DAMNIT.


Retcons made the Ewok movies the first place we ever saw a Dathomiri Witch.

And come on!!! Who can resist a film that firmly places Wilford Brimley in the Star Wars galaxy.
 
2012-11-15 12:11:17 AM  

Brontes: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MrEricSir: The worst part of Star Wars VII is going to be seeing Carrie Fisher in her old slave Leia costume.

I heard she's being considered to play Jabba, actually.

When 56 years old you reach, look as good you will not


Everyone keeps making "Leia is old and heavy now" jokes, but I don't see how it would be such a terrible thing to have an elder Leia. Nobody thinks Judy Dench is misplaced in the Bond flicks. Leia as an older politician in the wake of the formation of a New Republic would be perfectly acceptable.

Characters can grow old gracefully if you don't make them do ridiculous things. Having Harrison Ford play an old Indiana Jones that still goes on action-packed adventures was a misstep, but having Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher play the 60-year-old versions of their Star Wars characters in retired roles (not galavanting across the galaxy, but serving as wise voices to a younger generation) is a good plan.
 
2012-11-15 12:11:21 AM  

ZeroCorpse: The All-Powerful Atheismo: AS LONG AS WE GET ANOTHER EWOK MOVIE. DAMNIT.

Retcons made the Ewok movies the first place we ever saw a Dathomiri Witch.

And come on!!! Who can resist a film that firmly places Wilford Brimley in the Star Wars galaxy.


I want my Ewok prequel trilogy ffs
 
2012-11-15 12:17:22 AM  

MrEricSir:
Maybe subby should crawl out from under that rock more often.


No way, there's this bright thing up on the ceiling and it brings pain to the frontal seeing-orbs.
 
2012-11-15 12:19:02 AM  

MrEricSir: The worst part of Star Wars VII is going to be seeing Carrie Fisher in her old slave Leia costume.


Would you prefer Mark Hamill in her old Slave Leia costume?
 
2012-11-15 12:20:07 AM  
I missed the part where the Star Wars franchise wasn't previously milked for all it's worth. It's less a sacred cow and more a sacred hamburger recipe
 
2012-11-15 12:21:58 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Will the princess sing in THIS one... Finally?


And maybe Han Solo will dance.

www.geekscape.net
 
2012-11-15 12:22:54 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Vodka Zombie: Will the princess sing in THIS one... Finally?

Sure.. Why not?


I was expecting something more like this.

comicsworthreading.com
 
2012-11-15 12:27:35 AM  
would i spend a farking cent on Star Wars anything?


three terrible movies later
and i'm no longer a fan.
 
2012-11-15 12:28:12 AM  
I would go see another Willow movie.

Also, could see a Grim Fandango or Sam and Max cartoon doing really well.

Labyrinth 2? Sure why not.

Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.
 
2012-11-15 12:28:56 AM  

bukketmaster: ArkAngel: If I'm reading correctly, there are going to be 2-3 LucasFilm movies a year, not Star Wars movies. It'll be like most other production companies. I can't imagine they'll go beyond the three-year time period the other trilogies set. Maybe every other year now that they have the Disney muscle

[blessthe40oz.com image 480x347]

You are reading correctly. This is much derp about nothing.


You know they are going to do the same movies, all over again.
 
2012-11-15 12:31:33 AM  

PanicMan: Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.


My body is ready.

/And my joystick
//If you know what I mean
 
2012-11-15 12:45:16 AM  

thecpt: madgonad: thecpt: madgonad: If this means a live action KotOR, I'm okay with this.

/Kate Beckinsale was born to play Bastila Shan

And bill Pullman as Carth. Might be too old now though

Carth isn't supposed to be that young. Remember, his son was a young adult at the Sith Academy.

Yeah I forgot about that plot point. He might be able to pull it off with some good makeup and physique making wardrobe. Still have to cast jolee, the voice for hk, Malik, and gang but those two would be a good start.

/forget how much I loved that game at times. Still able to remember the names


Kate is getting much too old to play Bastila. She's supposed to be 18 or something. They'll have to find a new British hottie born to play the role. And I always wanted to see someone like James Marsden as Carth... and Christian Bale would be AMAZING as Revan, but he's probably overdone at this point and probably getting too old himself.

But, I soooo want a live action KotOR TV series... with lots of flashbacks to the Mandalorian wars and a really good hearted, but completely crazy Exile.

I'll take Karl Urban as Atton... though he's probably not young enough either... *sigh*

/preferred KotOR 2
//Not for the story itself, but for the potential
 
2012-11-15 12:55:06 AM  

UsikFark: You're more likely to see her naked than wearing a metal bikini.

Her home is right next to a nude beach.


Mister Peejay: Would you prefer Mark Hamill in her old Slave Leia costume?


Both of you can go to hell for putting even worse images into my head.


ZeroCorpse: Everyone keeps making "Leia is old and heavy now" jokes, but I don't see how it would be such a terrible thing to have an elder Leia.


Just because you don't want to see someone in a bikini doesn't mean you don't want to see them at all.
 
2012-11-15 12:58:18 AM  
Please Disney, do something awesome with Grim Fandango.
 
2012-11-15 01:01:39 AM  

QT_3.14159: thecpt: madgonad: thecpt: madgonad: If this means a live action KotOR, I'm okay with this.

/Kate Beckinsale was born to play Bastila Shan

And bill Pullman as Carth. Might be too old now though

Carth isn't supposed to be that young. Remember, his son was a young adult at the Sith Academy.

Yeah I forgot about that plot point. He might be able to pull it off with some good makeup and physique making wardrobe. Still have to cast jolee, the voice for hk, Malik, and gang but those two would be a good start.

/forget how much I loved that game at times. Still able to remember the names

Kate is getting much too old to play Bastila. She's supposed to be 18 or something. They'll have to find a new British hottie born to play the role. And I always wanted to see someone like James Marsden as Carth... and Christian Bale would be AMAZING as Revan, but he's probably overdone at this point and probably getting too old himself.

But, I soooo want a live action KotOR TV series... with lots of flashbacks to the Mandalorian wars and a really good hearted, but completely crazy Exile.

I'll take Karl Urban as Atton... though he's probably not young enough either... *sigh*

/preferred KotOR 2
//Not for the story itself, but for the potential


Atton isn't all that young either. Certainly a darker character. I liked KotOR2 a lot too. The original ending was almost completely different if you didn't know. A lot of that ending is actually on the damn disk - audio included. Your NewB jedi go after Treya without you and get their asses kicked. Torture...death...a much better ending. If your compatriots didn't love you, you were gonna suffer through the end. They are both great stories and were a ton of fun to play.
 
2012-11-15 01:01:51 AM  
lucasarts/film/etc own a lot of good IPs and (with decent budgets) have shown that they have the chops to create more.if i was disney i wouldn't limit just to star wars with the stable they picked up
 
2012-11-15 01:10:21 AM  

Trocadero: EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


Why hasn't there been any tentacle porn of Luke, Han, or Leia with the dianoga?
 
2012-11-15 01:11:21 AM  

PanicMan: I would go see another Willow movie.

Also, could see a Grim Fandango or Sam and Max cartoon doing really well.

Labyrinth 2? Sure why not.

Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.


I would love to see Pixar's take on Maniac Mansion.
 
2012-11-15 01:11:34 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Trocadero: EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]

Why hasn't there been any tentacle porn of Luke, Han, or Leia with the dianoga?


Who says there hasn't?
nsfwobviously
 
2012-11-15 01:18:38 AM  
Also, imagine this: Star Wars or Indiana Jones in a future Kingdom Hearts game. Admit it, you'd love to have Indy or Han Solo as a party member while recovering the Ark of the Covenant or escaping the Death Star.

/Pirates of the Caribbean, TRON, and TRON: Legacy worked extremely well in KHII and Dream Drop Distance
//also wanting a world based on "The Black Hole", with Maximilian as the end-of-world boss battle
 
2012-11-15 01:19:14 AM  

moothemagiccow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Trocadero: EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]

Why hasn't there been any tentacle porn of Luke, Han, or Leia with the dianoga?

Who says there hasn't?
nsfwobviously


And it's all of Leia. Meh.
 
2012-11-15 01:22:40 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: As long as they leave out the attempts to make C3PO and R2D2 be the galactic representatives of Abbott & Costello, then it will be OK.

Lucas can DIAF.


Without Lucas there would be no Star Wars, no Indiana Jones. No ILM. No Skywalker Sound.

/STFU you douche
 
2012-11-15 01:30:45 AM  
Just make the same shiat with the same good vs. evil theme/story arc that is so rudimentary even farking animals can understand it. Make sure every shot has plenty of motion. If the dominant interest is stationary, do not show it for more than ~4 to 5 seconds. Either way, the viewer must be bombarded with audiovisual stimuli continuously; do NOT give the viewer's mind a chance to think.

Hey wait a minute... maybe I, as a conscious human being, deserve more than CGI bullshiat to be entertained... I'm being ripped off!

Don't remind your consumers that they could ditch your bullshiat and access all the information and entertainment they could ever want or need using computers. Stifle the expansion of self-actualization. Keep them from making their own choices by limiting their choices.

That's the Hollywood franchise model in a nutshell: it doesn't matter how shiatty or stupid your movie is so long as you achieve total social penetration. Your movie's trademarks and personae must saturate every aspect of every waking moment of all people's lives. The product must absolutely dominate every avenue of media. If the majority of people can only see movies like The Fantastic Four, Spiderman the rererereremake, Star Wars the rerererererererererererererelease, etc., and can only have access to solicitation regarding your particular movies, that's what the majority of people will pay for. Hollywood doesn't have to come up with anything original or even logical. They simply need to maintain control.
 
2012-11-15 01:47:19 AM  
At last. Now we'll finally get to know what became of Itchy, Malla and Lumpy.


/yes I hate myself for thinking it too
 
2012-11-15 02:12:24 AM  

EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.


So nothing will change.
 
2012-11-15 02:21:18 AM  
LucasFilm hasn't made anything good since Indiana Jones 3.

IF the Disney purchase removes George Lucas from creative control, good. The less he has to do with actually making the movies the better. However, Disney's desire to make a new Star Wars every 2-3 years in perpetuity does NOT leave me optimistic. And either way, I am generally opposed to reboots, remakes, and endless sequels. Both Hollywood and the AAA gaming industry have discovered that they can milk sequels and nostalgia for billions of dollars, and I refuse to fund that. (Needless to say, I buy maybe 1 AAA game and see maybe 1 movie in theaters per year.)

I'm going to happily ignore the new Star Wars, unless it becomes clear 4-5 years down the line that they are actually making magic happen with the property (Not holding my breath). If they make other movies in the studio, cool. Maybe some of those will be worth checking out. It's nice to see that Disney will be using them for other things besides milking the Star Wars cash cow.
 
2012-11-15 02:25:14 AM  

Comsamvimes: PanicMan: Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.

My body is ready.

/And my joystick
//If you know what I mean


Honestly Lucas Arts concerns me more than Lucas Film. Disney bought the games studio as well, but we haven't heard anything about what their plans are for it. I'd be more willing to try a new Star Wars product there than in the theaters.

But even more it would be cool if Disney got Lucas Arts making the non-Star Wars games again. Some of the earlier SW games were really good, but the adventure games.... :D
 
2012-11-15 02:29:40 AM  

EvilEgg: When you are producing that many films one or two turn out to be great. Most turn out horrible, a few turn out okay. So it won't be like you are getting fewer good films, it's just that you'll have wade through a mountain of trash.


After the first couple piles of trash, most people stop looking for the good stuff.
 
2012-11-15 02:40:20 AM  
And what would you pay to see Tim Burton play around with that franchise? How about Pixar?

Would you watch a well-funded miniseries in the Star Wars Universe? What if they let Joss be in control of it like Firefly?

These are gambles worth taking.
 
2012-11-15 02:50:06 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: bukketmaster: ArkAngel: If I'm reading correctly, there are going to be 2-3 LucasFilm movies a year, not Star Wars movies. It'll be like most other production companies. I can't imagine they'll go beyond the three-year time period the other trilogies set. Maybe every other year now that they have the Disney muscle

[blessthe40oz.com image 480x347]

You are reading correctly. This is much derp about nothing.

You know they are going to do the same movies, all over again.


REBOOT!!!
 
2012-11-15 03:00:39 AM  

fusillade762: REBOOT!!!


dvdmedia.ign.com
 
2012-11-15 03:12:46 AM  
I guess they're sequels made by Disney,

Pariah.: IF the Disney purchase removes George Lucas from creative control, good. The less he has to do with actually making the movies the better. However, Disney's desire to make a new Star Wars every 2-3 years in perpetuity does NOT leave me optimistic.


Not one every 2-3 years. It would be entirely possible to make something very good on that sort of schedule. They're talking about 2-3 films per year, which means less Empire Strikes Back and more Clone Wars.

Until now, I've thought this takeover might be good for Star Wars, but this sounds like they're just going to be pushing out low-grade product, like the Disney animation sequels.
 
2012-11-15 03:13:34 AM  

RedPhoenix122: fusillade762: REBOOT!!!

[dvdmedia.ign.com image 468x351]


YES!
 
2012-11-15 03:16:36 AM  

madgonad: If this means a live action KotOR, I'm okay with this.

/Kate Beckinsale was born to play Bastila Shan


And Judi drench as kreia in the sequel.

Probably Daniel Craig as Carth. He is good at playing a whiney biatch I kinda want to slice in half with a lightsaber.
 
2012-11-15 03:22:46 AM  

ZeroCorpse: Possible Lucasfilm properties that could potentially become movies, TV shows, or other media:

Maniac Mansion
Indiana Jones (co-owned, but still...)
The Secret of Monkey Island
Outlaws
Zak McKracken
Loom
Full Throttle
The Dig
Grim Fandango
American Graffiti
Labyrinth (co-owned with Henson, I believe)
Tucker: The Man and His Dream
Willow


Now, almost ANY of these properties would be good material for an animated or live-action film. Add Pixar to the mix, and you have the potential for a really kick-ass Grim Fandango movie, or an awesome Day of the Tentacle flick. Consider the fact that Disney already owns the Muppets, and you have the possibility of a new Labyrinth film. Consider the fact that Warwick Davis likes being paid to act and is probably sick of doing Leprechaun sequels, and you have the chance to see a new Willow movie.

The point is that Disney doesn't necessarily have to stick to Star Wars movies 2 or 3 times a year. They have a lot of IP to draw from with this deal, I'm sure, and they have some creative folks who can do great things with these properties.


You are forgetting Gladius. That could easily be a movie.
 
2012-11-15 03:29:26 AM  

thecpt: madgonad: thecpt: madgonad: If this means a live action KotOR, I'm okay with this.

/Kate Beckinsale was born to play Bastila Shan

And bill Pullman as Carth. Might be too old now though

Carth isn't supposed to be that young. Remember, his son was a young adult at the Sith Academy.

Yeah I forgot about that plot point. He might be able to pull it off with some good makeup and physique making wardrobe. Still have to cast jolee, the voice for hk, Malik, and gang but those two would be a good start.

/forget how much I loved that game at times. Still able to remember the names


Samuel l jackson as Jolie Bindo. I am thinking Jack black as HK 47. Dakota Fanning as mission? I am thinking Malik.... Heath Ledge...damn he's dead...umm Bruce Willis?
 
2012-11-15 03:32:51 AM  
I'm thinking SLJ as anything = utter crap. So, no.
 
2012-11-15 03:43:20 AM  
Who gets the toy/action figure royalties?

George Lucas owns 20-25% of Hasbro/Kenner.

Every Boba Fett doll sold is another nickel in George's coffers.
 
2012-11-15 04:13:43 AM  

Aikidogamer: Jolie Bindo


Why would Samuel L be another Jedi? We don't need to Shemp here.

If we needed someone high caliber we could use Jamie Foxx, Andre Braugher or Don Cheadle

We could go with Denzel, Morgan Freeman's voice, Danny Glover, Dennis Haysbert, or Delroy Lindo (Delroy Lindo does rhythm with Jolie Bindo!)

Or maybe add a bit of humor? We could use John Witherspoon or one of the Murphy brothers. (Maybe use both of the Murphy brothers frequently switching which one is playing Jolie without any explanation or anything?)

Personally I'd pick either Ernie Hudson or Keith David.
 
2012-11-15 04:33:37 AM  

farkeruk: I guess they're sequels made by Disney, Pariah.: IF the Disney purchase removes George Lucas from creative control, good. The less he has to do with actually making the movies the better. However, Disney's desire to make a new Star Wars every 2-3 years in perpetuity does NOT leave me optimistic.

Not one every 2-3 years. It would be entirely possible to make something very good on that sort of schedule. They're talking about 2-3 films per year, which means less Empire Strikes Back and more Clone Wars.

Until now, I've thought this takeover might be good for Star Wars, but this sounds like they're just going to be pushing out low-grade product, like the Disney animation sequels.


Uh, yes every 2-3 years. The 2 or 3 movies a year is Lucasfilm making movies in general, not just Star Wars movies. The "New Star Wars Every 2-3 Years" was already established in the original press release. Subby, Kotaku and most of the people in this thread have shiatty reading comprehension.

/You also lose points for deriding Clone Wars.
 
2012-11-15 05:03:45 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: Uh, yes every 2-3 years. The 2 or 3 movies a year is Lucasfilm making movies in general, not just Star Wars movies. The "New Star Wars Every 2-3 Years" was already established in the original press release. Subby, Kotaku and most of the people in this thread have shiatty reading comprehension.


Hey, something I actually agree with Jizz Master Zero on!

/You'll never stop me, Orgazmo!
 
2012-11-15 05:08:52 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: The 2 or 3 movies a year is Lucasfilm making movies in general, not just Star Wars movies.


Right. And probably not limited to just old Lucas titles.

Jizz Master Zero: /You also lose points for deriding Clone Wars.


Not really. That's a fine show for the 12-16 demographic. Otherwise, it is painful to watch.
 
2012-11-15 05:13:50 AM  
Instead of trying to de-age Star Wars fans, they should just make it all dark and mean like Batman.
 
2012-11-15 06:37:31 AM  

PanicMan: I would go see another Willow movie.

Also, could see a Grim Fandango or Sam and Max cartoon doing really well.

Labyrinth 2? Sure why not.

Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.


For Willow, they may be able to use Chris Claremont's trilogy, but it's too dark, IMO.

I'd love for them to do something with the non-Star Wars Lucasarts games but I'm not holding my breath. Besides, Sam and Max was a cartoon in 1997 and got canceled early on. :(

XvT remake would be every fan's dream, but I think Disney wont even touch this stuff, but at the same time I think they will vigorously guard it from fan remakes, etc. I don't expect any decent Star Wars games and remakes in the future, but I hope I'm wrong.
 
2012-11-15 07:19:48 AM  

PanicMan: I would go see another Willow movie.

Also, could see a Grim Fandango or Sam and Max cartoon doing really well.

Labyrinth 2? Sure why not.

Just remake Xwing vs TieFighter.


There's a reason your posts are green other than the zombie run. This is another.
 
2012-11-15 08:15:08 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Zuck movies, I want another game!
 
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