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(Deadline)   Paramount will air the first nine minutes of Star Trek: Into Lensflare on December 14th on IMAX. Difficulty: you have to buy a ticket to see The Hobbit   (deadline.com) divider line 142
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2012-11-15 01:51:27 AM

Mentat: I'm not sure the Star Trek and LotR fanbases overlap.


Wait, your serious ? Let me laugh harder jpeg

Seriously- I am not just a Tolkien geek. I so heart Trek stuff. And Star Wars stuff, and B5, Space: Above and Beyond, Xanth, Ringworld... I could go on for a long time.
 
2012-11-15 01:52:09 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: fusillade762: thisiszombocom: why give a preview before a movie people are going to see anyways? why not add it before a crappy movie so people will but tickets for that one just to see the trailer

Quiet you! You'll give them ideas.

IIRC, that's already been done with Star Wars: Episode 1. Previews for that were shown before some forgettable movie starring Brad Pitt.


True Story: I paid money to see the Episode 1 trailer.* I got to see the Wing Commander movie afterwards, which sucked beyond all belief. And to add insult to injury, when I got out of the theater...some asshole broke into my car and stole my CD player and my CDs, which was a couple of J-Rock albums, some game soundtracks and a few burned disks.

That was one long car ride home in silence.

*That's what I like to tell myself, rather than admitting to paying actual money to see the Wing Commander movie
 
2012-11-15 01:53:02 AM

Gyrfalcon: ..does this mean I'm finally getting old?


It means that your taste in stuff has changed or does not flow with some popular things.
Thats okay. Be yourself, its all that you can do.
 
2012-11-15 01:57:34 AM

RevRaven: Forbidden Doughnut: fusillade762: thisiszombocom: why give a preview before a movie people are going to see anyways? why not add it before a crappy movie so people will but tickets for that one just to see the trailer

Quiet you! You'll give them ideas.

IIRC, that's already been done with Star Wars: Episode 1. Previews for that were shown before some forgettable movie starring Brad Pitt.

True Story: I paid money to see the Episode 1 trailer.* I got to see the Wing Commander movie afterwards, which sucked beyond all belief. And to add insult to injury, when I got out of the theater...some asshole broke into my car and stole my CD player and my CDs, which was a couple of J-Rock albums, some game soundtracks and a few burned disks.

That was one long car ride home in silence.

*That's what I like to tell myself, rather than admitting to paying actual money to see the Wing Commander movie


Then a delayed punchline: Episode I itself.
 
2012-11-15 01:57:48 AM

Gyrfalcon: I find myself completely disinterested in "The Hobbit" for some reason. I'm exactly meh about the whole thing. Same way about Star Trek, although I found the reboot/rework of the universe quite fascinating (to coin a phrase).

...does this mean I'm finally getting old?


Not old. Just dead inside.
 
2012-11-15 02:02:10 AM
It was fun watching the internet learn a new phrase after the last star trek movie.
 
2012-11-15 02:08:05 AM
Also: Time to rip on JJ.

The reboot was neat, but it wasn't Star Trek. I don't wanna have to type out my whole rant again (I guess I should save the damn thing to a text file), but it was Star Trek for people who don't like Star Trek. If you took the Trek trappings out, it could have been any generic sci-fi action movie. I'm not shiatting on sci-fi action flicks, nor having action in a Star Trek movie, but it wasn't really Star Trek.

It was more akin to Star Wars actually, structurally anyways. Which is fine...for a Star Wars movie. But as a Star Trek movie (and a reboot! A reboot of the most internally cohesive fictional universe ever written, for Christ's sake. What, too constipated creatively to do something new in a 500+ year timeline? Couldn't do another Next Generation new crew/ship idea? Nooo, had to go back to the TOS in the 60s), it was very much Star Trek in name only.

Star Trek works best as a TV series as Great Janitor said above. The movies are fun (even the bad ones can be, what parts don't hurt your brain), and the reboot is okay but by no means anything great. But another series (idealy set Post DS9/Voyager so we can finally see what happened in the aftermath of the friggin' Dominion War) would be fanfarkingtastic. I vaguely remember, in one of the threads about the various pitches made by people for a new series, that word was no new TV series until JJ's films run their course, so 2016-2017 or so.

/Redesign of the Enterprise was awful
//Bridge looked like it was designed by Apple
///Casting was pretty damn good though
\\\Destroying Romulus and discarding the real timeline was a mistake of easy script writing versus actually trying
\\I'm hoping they'll tie everything together in the third one and reset or merge JJ-reality with the real timeline
\And Shatner better have a goddamn cameo. What woulda been his cameo in the reboot would have been farking awesome. And let him do the "Space, the Final Frontier" narration please
 
2012-11-15 02:12:29 AM

RevRaven: it was Star Trek for people who don't like Star Trek


It was star trek for the internet generation who have short attention spans.

But it was still star trek. deal with it.
 
2012-11-15 02:20:24 AM

ds615: Star Trek 09 was a just a bad movie. Trek fan or not, comparing it to the show or not, it just plain sucked.
Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

The Hobbit was a crappy book, and there's not a damn thing in it that would make a good movie.
Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

So it's lose/lose or win/win depending on who you are.


ikttvs.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 02:30:34 AM
Hobbit + Star Trek preview?

tgfb.net
 
2012-11-15 02:41:58 AM

Mentat: I'm not sure the Star Trek and LotR fanbases overlap.


Not that you were serious, but count me in the "not in the overlap" group.
 
2012-11-15 02:41:59 AM
Is the Hobbit that bad that studios have to bribe fans to see it by teasing them with a Star Trek preview?
 
2012-11-15 02:46:36 AM

Great Janitor: The Daddy issues of Kirk and Spock made sense


Yeah, but it's an annoying trait of Abrams works running all the way back to Felicity. He really needs help.
 
2012-11-15 02:51:07 AM
You show movies and previews at the theater, you don't air them.
 
2012-11-15 02:52:56 AM

alienated: Mentat: I'm not sure the Star Trek and LotR fanbases overlap.

Wait, your serious ? Let me laugh harder jpeg

Seriously- I am not just a Tolkien geek. I so heart Trek stuff. And Star Wars stuff, and B5, Space: Above and Beyond, Xanth, Ringworld... I could go on for a long time.


This. People claiming that fantasy and sci-fi audiences don't overlap know nothing about nerds.
 
2012-11-15 02:55:20 AM

log_jammin: It was fun watching the internet learn a new phrase after the last star trek movie.


What phrase?
 
2012-11-15 03:02:16 AM

lewismarktwo: What phrase?


"lens flares!"
 
2012-11-15 03:04:14 AM

log_jammin: lewismarktwo: What phrase?

"lens flares!"


I figgured that's what you meant, but it didn't seem that obscure before then. Thinking about it, it makes sense.
 
2012-11-15 03:12:59 AM

lewismarktwo: log_jammin: lewismarktwo: What phrase?

"lens flares!"

I figgured that's what you meant, but it didn't seem that obscure before then. Thinking about it, it makes sense.


Oh shiat, drop shadows are next.
 
2012-11-15 03:23:42 AM

Great Janitor: As a life long Trek fan, I'll admit that Star Trek 09 is not the worst Trek movie (Star Treks 1 and 5 compete for that spot), but it's not the best (2, 6 and 8 compete for that spot), but it's better than 3, 9 and 10.


You're a Trek fan in name only.
 
2012-11-15 03:29:36 AM
The Hobbit is coming out in a month?
 
2012-11-15 03:33:15 AM
I saw The Two Towers on IMAX and got motion sick with the swooping down into a castle scenes.
 
2012-11-15 04:13:50 AM
Gee, thanks. Nine more minutes of manky shiat to sit through before I get to see the movie I paid money to see. Thanks, but I'll pass.
 
2012-11-15 04:17:56 AM

log_jammin: RevRaven: it was Star Trek for people who don't like Star Trek

It was star trek for the internet generation who have short attention spans.

But it was still star trek. deal with it.


In the same sense that Starship Troopers was Starship Troopers: that is, not at all.
 
2012-11-15 04:19:22 AM

Ed Grubermann: Gee, thanks. Nine more minutes of manky shiat to sit through before I get to see the movie I paid money to see. Thanks, but I'll pass.


When I went to Skyfall last night, after the 5th or so preview/commercial I actually had to take a moment to remember what movie it was I went there to see.
 
2012-11-15 04:24:46 AM

Ed Grubermann: In the same sense that Starship Troopers was Starship Troopers: that is, not at all.


worst analogy ever. or at least in this thread.
 
2012-11-15 04:40:32 AM

RevRaven: It was more akin to Star Wars actually, structurally anyways. Which is fine...for a Star Wars movie. But as a Star Trek movie (and a reboot! A reboot of the most internally cohesive fictional universe ever written, for Christ's sake.


That's where I stared laughing out loud.
 
2012-11-15 05:36:56 AM
One of the movies must be really bad to stoop to this level of marketing. I'm thinking its the Hobbit.
 
2012-11-15 05:53:42 AM

RevRaven: another series (idealy set Post DS9/Voyager so we can finally see what happened in the aftermath of the friggin' Dominion War) would be fanfarkingtastic.


Go play Star Trek Online. It isn't perfect but for the foreseeable future it is the only new canon story material you are getting in the original timeline. The new season just started. The most recent events are the Romulans finally colonizing a new homeworld. The game is free to play so you have nothing to lose.

Link
 
2012-11-15 06:26:58 AM

texdent: I just have to drive five minutes to get to an IMAX.


I have you beat. A ten minute walk, or a sub-two minute drive. What do I win?
 
2012-11-15 07:30:35 AM

ds615: Star Trek 09 was a just a bad movie. Trek fan or not, comparing it to the show or not, it just plain sucked.
Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

The Hobbit was a crappy book, and there's not a damn thing in it that would make a good movie.
Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

So it's lose/lose or win/win depending on who you are.


You, sir, are an idiot of the highest order.
 
2012-11-15 07:39:53 AM
First nine minutes? So you will see the camera slowly, slowly panning over a lush hillside and then... record scratch...coming soon

/as opposed to the ad preview which will show the all the surprises, boss monsters and enough footage to talk like you're seen the movie at the water cooler after it comes out.
 
2012-11-15 07:47:30 AM
Will singularities explode?

Will weapons be set at maximium?

We can only guess in excitement.
 
2012-11-15 07:57:05 AM

RevRaven: Forbidden Doughnut: fusillade762: thisiszombocom: why give a preview before a movie people are going to see anyways? why not add it before a crappy movie so people will but tickets for that one just to see the trailer

Quiet you! You'll give them ideas.

IIRC, that's already been done with Star Wars: Episode 1. Previews for that were shown before some forgettable movie starring Brad Pitt.

True Story: I paid money to see the Episode 1 trailer.* I got to see the Wing Commander movie afterwards, which sucked beyond all belief. And to add insult to injury, when I got out of the theater...some asshole broke into my car and stole my CD player and my CDs, which was a couple of J-Rock albums, some game soundtracks and a few burned disks.

That was one long car ride home in silence.

*That's what I like to tell myself, rather than admitting to paying actual money to see the Wing Commander movie


Aside from the break-in, that was also me. I went to Wing Commander because of the trailer, but I thought that WC would be a fun popcorn movie. Instead I watched a movie that made Episode I look good.

And as someone who owns the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition trilogy and the 2 disk DVD of the new Star Trek, this announcement officially puts the Hobbit into "Shut up and take my money" territory. I can't wait, and the idea that people only like one or the other franchise is silly at best and delusional ignorance at worst.

The opening 12 sequence of Star Trek 09 is still more compelling than the last 2 Next Gen movies combined. I can't wait to see what's in store for us this time.
 
2012-11-15 07:57:34 AM

ToxicMunkee: It's time to get over the lens flare butthurt, old man.


Yea this
 
2012-11-15 08:06:45 AM
"In order to touch Keira Knightly's boobs, you have to buy a ticket to touch Scarlett Johansson's boobs."

Oh, man. That is a difficult question.
 
2012-11-15 08:09:11 AM
StoPPeRmobile


ToxicMunkee: It's time to get over the lens flare butthurt, old man.

Why?

I'd love to watch it again but that shiat is farked.

They need to edit it withouth the damn things.

If you cut out the scenes with lens flair all you're left with are the scenes that look like Michael J Fox was the camera man.
 
2012-11-15 08:30:39 AM
I got my IMAX Hobbit tickets last week... Thank you, Internets!
 
2012-11-15 08:32:43 AM

MurphyMurphy: Ed Grubermann: Gee, thanks. Nine more minutes of manky shiat to sit through before I get to see the movie I paid money to see. Thanks, but I'll pass.

When I went to Skyfall last night, after the 5th or so preview/commercial I actually had to take a moment to remember what movie it was I went there to see.


While I agree about commercials, some of us like previews. I follow what's in production and hope to see bits of a movie I'm interested in that's in the pipeline.
 
2012-11-15 08:40:28 AM

Mentat: I'm not sure the Star Trek and LotR fanbases overlap.


That's the point. Get a group of people who are passionate about something else to pay to see your movie they otherwise wouldn't see, and you make more money.
 
2012-11-15 09:05:04 AM
9 minutes? UNless 7 of it is the opening credits, that'll show too much movie for me.
 
2012-11-15 09:12:36 AM
So, if I want to see The Hobbit I have to sit through the first nine minutes of Star Trek? That is a problem.

/How much are they paying me?
 
2012-11-15 09:13:06 AM

Mugato: I'll see The Hobbit because I want to see what 48 fps looks like. I'll probably check out somewhere between the third and fourth ending though,


That will be the third movie. The first two movies will have no ending.
 
2012-11-15 09:23:33 AM

I am sure the Hobbit will be great for fans of the book.

IMO, book was boring and weirdly

*RANDOM 8 versed song here*


paced.

Give me Lens Flare 2/ST 12/whatever-the-hell-you-want-to-call-it. I don't care how much they used. Movie was REALLY GOOD. Not perfect (Kirk ends up on JUST the right part of the planet to meet up with [redacted]? Bit of a stretch), yet quite enjoyable. Certainly better then all TNG movies (including first contact which I liked).

Would I pay to see the trailer? Of course not. I'll just wait for it to show up online somewhere.

I will pay to see the actual ST movie though.

/First National Bastard to the "bash new Star Trek film as 'fun, watchable' phone, First National Bastard to the "bash new Star Trek film as 'fun, watchable' phone.
 
2012-11-15 09:29:35 AM

RevRaven: but it wasn't Star Trek.\


This video is all I think of when I hear ST fans saying "it's not ST" .

/"apparently there isn't even one scene set at a long table where interstellar diplomacy is debated in endless detail"
 
2012-11-15 09:36:04 AM
I'm sure i'll never be able to see their sales ad on youtube later

I guess i'll go so the ho-bite
 
2012-11-15 09:48:06 AM
I'll tell you what, Paramount: I'll give up biatching about lens flare in exchange for a decent line of Star Trek ship toys, preferably the same size as the old Micro Machines.

/don't tell them I don't biatch about lens flare to begin with
 
2012-11-15 09:49:02 AM
I'd hit it!
 
2012-11-15 09:53:52 AM
I really enjoyed the latest Star Trek in the same way that I really enjoyed Serenity, yeah it doesn't have the same feel as the series that I loved but it was entertaining, had great action and great visuals. That is exactly what big blockbuster movies are all about. How anyone could walk into a movie theater to see a movie that they have seen advertised for months and is making huge profits at the box office and still expect it to be in line with their narrow interpretation of the source material is beyond me.

If you want star trek or lord of the rings or firefly or (insert your favorite comic book, fantasy or sci-fi story here) movies to be made you have to understand that they will be tailored to please a wider audience than the hardcore fans otherwise they won't be made. All the nerd rage over these movies is just a feeble attempt to get nerddom back to the fringes of society so you can feel special and smarter than the average joe. Grow up.

/watchmen is the exception
//that movie was pretty damn faithful to it's source material
///and a good movie too
 
2012-11-15 10:03:14 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Mentat: I'm not sure the Star Trek and LotR fanbases overlap.

Not that you were serious, but count me in the "not in the overlap" group.


Me too. I started reading the Hobbit once, put it down after 40 pages, when Fredo's 9th dinner was described in glorious, glorious detail. Christ, Stephen King's coke-fueled books got to the point quicker.

Saw all 3 LoTR movies, didn't like a-one of them. I went on Randall's rant (from Clerks II) before that movie was filmed. And Peter Jackson needs to learn how to end a film - if your test audiences start getting up but you know there's 583,098 minutes of film left, EDIT THE DAMN THING SO WE'RE NOT HOLDING IN A PISS FOR THE LAST THIRD OF YOUR MOVIE.

moothemagiccow: Great Janitor: The Daddy issues of Kirk and Spock made sense

Yeah, but it's an annoying trait of Abrams works running all the way back to Felicity. He really needs help.


If JJ needs help, WTF does Disney need? 24-hour life coaches with a battalion of psychiatrists on speed-dial and more mood-altering drugs in the nightstand than the Dead's tour bus?
 
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