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2012-11-14 03:48:07 PM
We all did.
 
2012-11-14 04:04:26 PM
I kinda liked it..only watched it the one time though.
 
2012-11-14 04:27:20 PM
Gary Larson?
 
2012-11-14 04:42:46 PM
img.photobucket.com

GO AWAY! BAITIN
 
2012-11-14 07:19:47 PM
Olivia Wilde was the best-and only-reason to sit through it.
 
2012-11-14 07:26:50 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gary Larson?


In a perfect world, he'd take a gazillion royalties just by virtue of being Gary Larson.
 
2012-11-14 07:30:00 PM
I got really hammered watching that one. I barely remember anything about it.
 
2012-11-14 07:32:31 PM
Daniel Craig: "Mumble, mumble, mumble I'm a cowboy."

Harrison Ford: ""Mumble, mumble. mumble, there's some aliens".

Space ships for some reason, end.

/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?
 
2012-11-14 07:37:14 PM
I feel like the only person in the world (other than Mr ConCon) who liked that movie.
 
2012-11-14 07:45:02 PM
bad movies are awesome. my mind will not be changed.
 
2012-11-14 07:57:25 PM
I wouldn't call it a good movie, but it was entertaining. I liked it well enough.
 
2012-11-14 07:59:35 PM

SyntacticAtrocity: bad movies are awesome. my mind will not be changed.


Here! Here!
 
2012-11-14 08:00:28 PM
I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.
 
2012-11-14 08:05:23 PM
I JUST watched this TODAY (while sitting in Honda's service waiting room) and I enjoyed it.

Did you think it was going to be Schindler's List? It's CALLED "Cowboys & Aliens!"

I thought it was an interesting story, the effects were good, AMAZING cast (under used if anything....Sam Rockwell should have had more to do... and Clancy Brown too)

Silly premise, but if you buy aliens, you can buy aliens mining for gold, I say.

And yes, Olivia Wilde!!
 
2012-11-14 08:07:39 PM

Mugato: /and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's secretly run by Ron Paul.
 
2012-11-14 08:07:57 PM
And can we please stop using Adam Beach to play Native Americans? He's an awful awful actor
 
2012-11-14 08:16:23 PM
I thought it was entertaining. Is it a movie that I'll talk about years from now? No, I tend to forget about it completely. I've seen it twice and enjoyed it each time, but it's the sort of movie you have on in the background while you're sitting around talking with friends.

If anything, I think Ford's acting took him out of his (recent) regular roles and I loved him for that.
 
2012-11-14 08:19:35 PM

Primitive Screwhead: SyntacticAtrocity: bad movies are awesome. my mind will not be changed.

Here! Here!


Where? Where?
 
2012-11-14 08:20:54 PM

ConConHead: I feel like the only person in the world (other than Mr ConCon) who liked that movie.


I liked it too. As somebody upthread commented, it was exactly as advertised. Cowboys. And aliens. And frankly, if you took away all the stuff about aliens it was a perfectly serviceable cowboy movie in its own right.

Also I thought that the special effects were above average. It felt like the actors and the effects shared the same physical space and were intertwined. Too often, effects-heavy movies have that "Look! Up in the sky!" vibe to them, where unremarkable things happen down on the ground while remarkable CGI happens on an entirely different plane and the two never connect -- like that notoriously badly-matted scene towards the end of Men In Black where agents J and K stand awkwardly in front of a blue-screened crashing alien ship, except extended to movie length.
 
2012-11-14 08:35:03 PM

MrEricSir: Mugato: /and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?

It's secretly run by Ron Paul.

L. Ron Hubbard

FTFY
 
2012-11-14 08:38:42 PM
Hardly a classic but I have yet to see what's so awful about it. I had fun. Glad to see others feel the same way.
 
2012-11-14 08:40:24 PM
Hokey Ancient religions and arrows are no match for a good blaster on your wrist son.
 
2012-11-14 08:42:18 PM
//Jonah Hex
 
2012-11-14 08:45:46 PM
While I didn't hate it, I got about 3/4 of the way through it and decided that I had had enough.
 
2012-11-14 08:51:28 PM

fusillade762: I got really hammered watching that one. I barely remember anything about it.


I saw it sober and I can barely remember anything about it.

Making things worse is I saw John Carter a week later (equally as forgettable) and I can't remember if certain scenes are from Cowboys and Aliens or John Carter.
 
2012-11-14 08:59:11 PM
I never understood all the hate. I enjoyed it.
 
2012-11-14 09:00:04 PM
How much is badassdigest.com paying for these links? I am not clicking them following that utter fail of a James Bond bit a few days ago.
 
2012-11-14 09:02:51 PM

Mugato


/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's uncommon and it's very useful in electrical applications.

Sam Rockwell's character was great. It was a fairly standard wuss-redemption story but he's very likable so it worked.

The Kurgan Clancy Brown was awesome and should have been in the entire movie.
 
2012-11-14 09:03:01 PM

tequilasundae: Adam Beach


Snakes and sparklers are the good stuff.
 
2012-11-14 09:03:19 PM
Van Lente (with Greg Pak) managed to write a very entertaining and funny comic book run featuring Marvel's version of Hercules.
It seems that rather unlikely feat raised my expectations excessively concerning the MST3K potential of this movie viewing.
 
2012-11-14 09:06:07 PM

StoPPeRmobile


tequilasundae: Adam Beach

Snakes and sparklers are the good stuff.


It ain't about you. It's about the consumer.
 
2012-11-14 09:09:54 PM

mat catastrophe: How much is badassdigest.com paying for these links? I am not clicking them following that utter fail of a James Bond bit a few days ago.


I submitted both of those links and if someone is getting paid it ain't me, I have a phone bill to pay. I like Badass Digest. So screw you anyway, and pay my bill.
 
2012-11-14 09:20:38 PM

Confabulat: mat catastrophe: How much is badassdigest.com paying for these links? I am not clicking them following that utter fail of a James Bond bit a few days ago.

I submitted both of those links and if someone is getting paid it ain't me, I have a phone bill to pay. I like Badass Digest. So screw you anyway, and pay my bill.


All you have is a phone bill? Sod off.
 
2012-11-14 09:22:02 PM
Meh, I was entertained.


//It was better than Prometheus
 
2012-11-14 09:27:01 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: //It was better than Prometheus




That's not saying much, but yeah.
 
2012-11-14 09:51:43 PM

ConConHead: I feel like the only person in the world (other than Mr ConCon) who liked that movie.


Nope, I liked it too. Thought it was a fun flick!
 
2012-11-14 09:51:55 PM

Tax Boy: I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.


THIS.

It said Cowboys and Aliens, it delivered Cowboys, Aliens and Olivia Wilde. I left satisfied.
 
2012-11-14 09:55:12 PM

Mugato: Daniel Craig: "Mumble, mumble, mumble I'm a cowboy."

Harrison Ford: ""Mumble, mumble. mumble, there's some aliens".

Space ships for some reason, end.

/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's a good conductor. Death Stars don't wire themselves.
 
2012-11-14 10:04:36 PM
I liked the first 10 or so minutes - after the aliens show up it goes downhill.

I don't like the hybrid movie thing. I love westerns, and I love movies about aliens, just not together apparently.
 
2012-11-14 10:13:46 PM
It should have been the most awesome movie ever. Cowboys. And aliens. How do you screw that up? Apparently, [channelling Goldblum] Hollywood... Found A Way.

I don't know what proportion of the movie was gone when I couldn't take it any more and turned it off. But the pain. I remember the pain.
 
2012-11-14 10:18:54 PM

Son of Thunder: It should have been the most awesome movie ever.


You obviously had unreal expectations
 
2012-11-14 10:26:34 PM

Tax Boy: I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.


So much this.
Harrison was gruff and the chick was hot to look at.
 
2012-11-14 10:39:34 PM

Mugato: why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


Apparenlty, aliens are white men.
 
2012-11-14 10:44:39 PM
You know, if you get really wasted and imagine that this movie is an alternate reality sci-fi thriller where Indiana Jones and James Bond have both forgotten their true identities and have to work together to save the planet, it still sucks donkey balls.
 
2012-11-14 10:55:02 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato

/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's uncommon and it's very useful in electrical applications.


It's uncommon on earth but it's also uncommon everywhere in the universe? I guess it is, the Ferengi love it too.
 
2012-11-14 11:10:52 PM
It was a dull slog. It was so damned repetitive, and not one character was appealing. By the halfway point, I wanted the aliens to win so it would be over.
 
2012-11-14 11:27:30 PM

buntz: I JUST watched this TODAY (while sitting in Honda's service waiting room) and I enjoyed it.

Did you think it was going to be Schindler's List? It's CALLED "Cowboys & Aliens!"

I thought it was an interesting story, the effects were good, AMAZING cast (under used if anything....Sam Rockwell should have had more to do... and Clancy Brown too)

Silly premise, but if you buy aliens, you can buy aliens mining for gold, I say.

And yes, Olivia Wilde!!


Yup.
SICK of people, especially around here, who think that every sci-fi movie is supposed to be the second coming of
'The Day The Earth Stood Still' - the original, not that POS re-make.

All these movies get hyped like crazy and then ripped because they don't live up to said hype.
Farking allah, that has gotten boring.
 
2012-11-14 11:28:56 PM

jj325: I never understood all the hate. I enjoyed it.


I don't think anyone hates the movie. There's just not enough there to provoke that level of response. Most of us simply forgot it.
 
2012-11-14 11:52:01 PM

tequilasundae: And can we please stop using Adam Beach to play Native Americans? He's an awful awful actor


Yea I don't recommend reading that guy's Wikipedia biography. What a messed up childhood.
 
2012-11-14 11:57:08 PM

The Banana Thug: tequilasundae: And can we please stop using Adam Beach to play Native Americans? He's an awful awful actor

Yea I don't recommend reading that guy's Wikipedia biography. What a messed up childhood.


He was born a poor bla,k child in rural......
 
2012-11-15 12:28:21 AM

Mugato: Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato

/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's uncommon and it's very useful in electrical applications.

It's uncommon on earth but it's also uncommon everywhere in the universe? I guess it is, the Ferengi love it too.


[DSNerd]

Ferengi thought gold was worthless. They only used it as a convenient medium for holding latinum.

[/DSNerd]
 
2012-11-15 12:36:38 AM
You know, I remember not disliking the movie, but I also don't remember finishing it. Even bad movies I usually finish. Weird.
 
2012-11-15 12:39:10 AM
filmcrithulk.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-15 01:25:32 AM

czetie: Also I thought that the special effects were above average. It felt like the actors and the effects shared the same physical space and were intertwined. Too often, effects-heavy movies have that "Look! Up in the sky!" vibe to them, where unremarkable things happen down on the ground while remarkable CGI happens on an entirely different plane and the two never connect -- like that notoriously badly-matted scene towards the end of Men In Black where agents J and K stand awkwardly in front of a blue-screened crashing alien ship, except extended to movie length.


Nothing wrong with the compositing in that scene.

Besides, they used MINIATURES for that crash. Not CG.

/ILM did both C&A and MIB
 
2012-11-15 01:27:09 AM

Mugato: Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato

/and why is gold valuable everywhere in the galaxy?


It's uncommon and it's very useful in electrical applications.

It's uncommon on earth but it's also uncommon everywhere in the universe? I guess it is, the Ferengi love it too.


Nah, Ferengis like latinum. The gold itself is worthless to them. Any replicator can make gold, but without it they'd have to make change with an eyedropper.
 
2012-11-15 03:27:50 AM

skepticultist: Tax Boy: I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.

THIS.

It said Cowboys and Aliens, it delivered Cowboys, Aliens and Olivia Wilde. I left satisfied.


plus4chan.org

Anybody who went to this movie expecting high-brow entertainment has wildly unrealistic expectations. If you expected a fun story with decent pacing and reasonably entertaining characters played by well-known actors, then you were a perfectly reasonable about the whole thing.
 
2012-11-15 04:01:32 AM

buntz: I JUST watched this TODAY (while sitting in Honda's service waiting room) and I enjoyed it.

Did you think it was going to be Schindler's List? It's CALLED "Cowboys & Aliens!"


You do realize where you are, right? These people could see a movie called "Flinging Poop" and expect it to match up with Citizen Kane.
 
2012-11-15 06:38:59 AM

Doc Batarang: Nah, Ferengis like latinum. The gold itself is worthless to them. Any replicator can make gold, but without it they'd have to make change with an eyedropper.


Then why'd they try to rob Fort Knox?
 
2012-11-15 06:40:21 AM
Came in expecting cowboys and aliens, saw both, left getting what I expected

/still agree they dropped the ball with something with potential
 
2012-11-15 07:51:19 AM

peterthx: czetie: Also I thought that the special effects were above average. It felt like the actors and the effects shared the same physical space and were intertwined. Too often, effects-heavy movies have that "Look! Up in the sky!" vibe to them, where unremarkable things happen down on the ground while remarkable CGI happens on an entirely different plane and the two never connect -- like that notoriously badly-matted scene towards the end of Men In Black where agents J and K stand awkwardly in front of a blue-screened crashing alien ship, except extended to movie length.

Nothing wrong with the compositing in that scene.

Besides, they used MINIATURES for that crash. Not CG.

/ILM did both C&A and MIB


I'm pretty sure you're trolling me, but I'll bite anyway. Two things.

Thing 1: Maybe my late-night grammar confused you, but what I'm pointing out about that MiB scene is that it doesn't remotely look like J and K are in the same physical space as the crashing spaceship. There's never any sense that they're standing in front of anything more than a screen, regardless of how the crash was put together.

Thing 2: If you don't think that the compositing in that scene is shiatty, I fear for you. Even the black of the night sky isn't black. And that's even without the glaring continuity error that has J & K reverse positions in the shots from the front (without spaceship) and the back (with spaceship). It's a completely dud moment in an otherwise-enjoyable movie, which makes me suspect you are trolling.
 
2012-11-15 07:54:48 AM

czetie: I'm pretty sure you're trolling me, but I'll bite anyway. Two things.

Thing 1: Maybe my late-night grammar confused you, but what I'm pointing out about that MiB scene is that it doesn't remotely look like J and K are in the same physical space as the crashing spaceship. There's never any sense that they're standing in front of anything more than a screen, regardless of how the crash was put together.

Thing 2: If you don't think that the compositing in that scene is shiatty, I fear for you. Even the black of the night sky isn't black. And that's even without the glaring continuity error that has J & K reverse positions in the shots from the front (without spaceship) and the back (with spaceship). It's a completely dud moment in an otherwise-enjoyable movie, which makes me suspect you are trolling.


ILM certainly seems to have an A and B team.

/would work for either
 
2012-11-15 07:58:58 AM

skepticultist: Tax Boy: I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.

THIS.

It said Cowboys and Aliens, it delivered Cowboys, Aliens and Olivia Wilde. I left satisfied.


Same here. It wasn't wonderful, but it wasn't too awful, either.
 
2012-11-15 08:56:48 AM

yukichigai: skepticultist: Tax Boy: I paid to see this movie and got exactly what was advertised.

It was full of cowboys and aliens.

THIS.

It said Cowboys and Aliens, it delivered Cowboys, Aliens and Olivia Wilde. I left satisfied.

[plus4chan.org image 201x201]

Anybody who went to this movie expecting high-brow entertainment has wildly unrealistic expectations. If you expected a fun story with decent pacing and reasonably entertaining characters played by well-known actors, then you were a perfectly reasonable about the whole thing.



I just went expecting to be entertained and instead ended up bored out of my skull. I found myself making a mental grocery list for after the movie during one of the action sequences. Lente nailed it noting that they somehow managed to make a dull, self-important movie with the title Cowboys & Aliens. It should have been deliriously fun and wasn't.
 
2012-11-15 09:06:13 AM
I found it entertaining enough. Then again I just saw John Carter this weekend on tv as well and didn't hate it. Somehow JC managed to shoe horn in most of the SW movies in to one.
 
2012-11-15 09:23:55 AM

Mugato: Doc Batarang: Nah, Ferengis like latinum. The gold itself is worthless to them. Any replicator can make gold, but without it they'd have to make change with an eyedropper.

Then why'd they try to rob Fort Knox?


In the 23rd century, people were are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of material possessions and sought to improve themselves for the enrichment and betterment of all.

So, probably art for art's sake.
 
2012-11-15 09:29:33 AM
meh. I tried to watch the film. made it about 45 minutes, maybe an hour and turned it off. It just couldn't hold my attention.

/am I the only one that thinks Harrson Ford's character could have been completely edited out and it wouldn't have changed the movie at all?
 
2012-11-15 09:32:07 AM
COWBOYS & ALIENS did have one notable thing about it (apart from Olivia Wilde): it spawned an
awful lot of cosplay of Daniel Craig's character with the alien arm gun thingy for months before it came
out.

Though, tellingly, once it did come out such costumes disappeared rather quickly.
 
2012-11-15 10:47:35 AM
At one point I said to myself, "this is stupid." Then I realized it had the word "aliens" in the title, and I got the fark over it.

Enjoyably flick.
 
2012-11-15 11:41:35 AM

ConConHead: I feel like the only person in the world (other than Mr ConCon) who liked that movie.


You are not alone.
/saw it twice
 
2012-11-15 04:23:24 PM
*sigh* Cowboys and aliens needed tits and two fark scenes, one with the dead wife and one with the alien chick who was after the beings who shot her pa.
 
2012-11-15 05:36:03 PM

Slaves2Darkness: two fark scenes, one with the dead wife


EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
 
2012-11-16 12:06:03 AM

czetie: Thing 1: Maybe my late-night grammar confused you, but what I'm pointing out about that MiB scene is that it doesn't remotely look like J and K are in the same physical space as the crashing spaceship. There's never any sense that they're standing in front of anything more than a screen, regardless of how the crash was put together.


OK. I just watched the scene again, on the BLU-RAY mind you, and the compositing is not bad for 1997. Mind you the video transfer gamma level is a little on the bright side so bluescreened objects tend to contrast differently: that's the same reason you see garbage mattes (the grey boxes) around ships in things like STAR WARS on video...the higher contrast of video. Theatrically this is not an issue.

Thing 2: If you don't think that the compositing in that scene is shiatty, I fear for you. Even the black of the night sky isn't black. And that's even without the glaring continuity error that has J & K reverse positions in the shots from the front (without spaceship) and the back (with spaceship). It's a completely dud moment in an otherwise-enjoyable movie, which makes me suspect you are trolling.

The night sky isn't black because that area, the World's Fairgrounds where Shea Stadium used to be (now CitiField) is incredibly lit up at night and the sky is nowhere near black in reality. Of course I lived 20 minutes from there in the 1980s, did you? Took the Q13 bus to the 7 train Flushing Station. You can also see bright lamps and other lighting in the shot. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. Continuity wise when they fire the guns they are on opposite sides but you can see them turning as they watch the ship fall from the sky, indicating the ship went completely around and they were facing the opposite way after they fired the guns.

You call it trolling, life calls it reality. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-16 01:17:43 AM
A pal of mine worked on this...film. He said the crew was in a permanent state of facepalm the whole time.
 
2012-11-16 02:02:30 AM

Thunderboy: A pal of mine worked on this...film. He said the crew was in a permanent state of facepalm the whole time.


epicyearproject.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-16 02:07:18 AM

peterthx: Thunderboy: A pal of mine worked on this...film. He said the crew was in a permanent state of facepalm the whole time.

[epicyearproject.files.wordpress.com image 414x389]


images.wikia.com
 
2012-11-16 01:01:51 PM

peterthx: czetie: Thing 1: Maybe my late-night grammar confused you, but what I'm pointing out about that MiB scene is that it doesn't remotely look like J and K are in the same physical space as the crashing spaceship. There's never any sense that they're standing in front of anything more than a screen, regardless of how the crash was put together.

OK. I just watched the scene again, on the BLU-RAY mind you, and the compositing is not bad for 1997. Mind you the video transfer gamma level is a little on the bright side so bluescreened objects tend to contrast differently: that's the same reason you see garbage mattes (the grey boxes) around ships in things like STAR WARS on video...the higher contrast of video. Theatrically this is not an issue.

Thing 2: If you don't think that the compositing in that scene is shiatty, I fear for you. Even the black of the night sky isn't black. And that's even without the glaring continuity error that has J & K reverse positions in the shots from the front (without spaceship) and the back (with spaceship). It's a completely dud moment in an otherwise-enjoyable movie, which makes me suspect you are trolling.

The night sky isn't black because that area, the World's Fairgrounds where Shea Stadium used to be (now CitiField) is incredibly lit up at night and the sky is nowhere near black in reality. Of course I lived 20 minutes from there in the 1980s, did you? Took the Q13 bus to the 7 train Flushing Station. You can also see bright lamps and other lighting in the shot. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. Continuity wise when they fire the guns they are on opposite sides but you can see them turning as they watch the ship fall from the sky, indicating the ship went completely around and they were facing the opposite way after they fired the guns.

You call it trolling, life calls it reality. Deal with it.


Um, no. And no. The sky is lit completely differently in the composited shots vs. non-composited, even looking at the same area. I'm sorry you can't see that, but it's very obviously there.

And again, on the continuity, you're missing the point. Before they turn around, while the ship is still approaching them, there are shots from behind them, showing the (composited) spaceship coming towards them. Then there are shots from the front showing their expressions (Jones stony faced, Smith increasingly worried). In those shots their positions are reversed. The continuity error is so obvious it's even in IMDB.

I call it paying attention. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-16 01:32:34 PM

czetie: Um, no. And no. The sky is lit completely differently in the composited shots vs. non-composited, even looking at the same area. I'm sorry you can't see that, but it's very obviously there.

And again, on the continuity, you're missing the point. Before they turn around, while the ship is still approaching them, there are shots from behind them, showing the (composited) spaceship coming towards them. Then there are shots from the front showing their expressions (Jones stony faced, Smith increasingly worried). In those shots their positions are reversed. The continuity error is so obvious it's even in IMDB.


The shots are NOT reversed. Smith keeps looking nervously to his left - exactly where Tommy Lee Jones is.

IMDB is so often wrong it's funny.

The sky lighting is not lit incorrectly, in fact the screen darkens like it should when the ship kicks up the dirt cloud and blocks the lights in the rear of the shot. Calibrate your TV.
 
2012-11-16 02:27:27 PM

peterthx: czetie: Um, no. And no. The sky is lit completely differently in the composited shots vs. non-composited, even looking at the same area. I'm sorry you can't see that, but it's very obviously there.

And again, on the continuity, you're missing the point. Before they turn around, while the ship is still approaching them, there are shots from behind them, showing the (composited) spaceship coming towards them. Then there are shots from the front showing their expressions (Jones stony faced, Smith increasingly worried). In those shots their positions are reversed. The continuity error is so obvious it's even in IMDB.

The shots are NOT reversed. Smith keeps looking nervously to his left - exactly where Tommy Lee Jones is.

IMDB is so often wrong it's funny.

The sky lighting is not lit incorrectly, in fact the screen darkens like it should when the ship kicks up the dirt cloud and blocks the lights in the rear of the shot. Calibrate your TV.



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