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2012-11-14 02:58:39 PM

boogie_down: To all the myopic idiots posting that this, in actuality, has anything to do with religion.

Please grow the fark up.


Explain.
 
2012-11-14 02:59:26 PM

ciberido: A better example would be the ACLU showing support for same-sex marriage one day and defending the Westboro Baptist Church's right to condemn gays the next. It might seem hypocritical or confusing to people who think the entire world is divided into two teams which are polar opposites of each other.


Except the ACLU is a civil rights organization and has defended Westboro Baptist Church as well as others. They have a /consistent/ stand on free speech rights, even when they don't like the people they are defending. My point is with regards to people that change what they consider ethical based on whom the victim is. Bad example.
 
2012-11-14 02:59:26 PM

marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.


Maybe, but there would still be plenty of us saying "well taking their land was pretty dickieh, and so was the forced resettlement, maybe we should give them some land."

And instead of a reasonable argument, I would be called Anti-American.
 
2012-11-14 02:59:40 PM

mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: The far left loves Muslims for some kooky reason.

Muslims are perceived by the left to be underdogs. And the left worships underdogs. Regardless of the actual issues. Anything that goes against "the man" is good in their eyes. Automatically.

You would think that in a contest between a tolerant, democratic, free society vs. an intolerant, anti-democratic, not free society, the so-called liberals would support the freer society, not the women stoning, gay hanging barbarians.

But Israel is successful and dominant, which makes them "the establishment" They are thus automatically evil, and the underdog muslims virtuous and wonderful.


Generalizations, how do they work?
 
2012-11-14 02:59:41 PM
thedisorderofthings.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-14 02:59:46 PM

Silly Jesus: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 409x545]

VS

[fullmetalcynic.files.wordpress.com image 299x400]


That second one probably isn't a woman.

/with Man hands like that, I ain't taking no chances.
 
2012-11-14 02:59:48 PM

jso2897: It's cold war-think. It's what got 50,000 Americans slaughtered in Nam for nothing.


Not only that but the idea that the Cold War wasn't a completely unique thing that could happen again. There is no more World Wars, just skirmishes.
 
2012-11-14 03:00:48 PM

marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.


What America did you the Native Americans is an apt comparison. Like Nazi did to the Jews, Israel has concentrated Palestinians into impoverished ghettos and controls their movement. So we agree that Israel is using the tactics of brutal regimes. Like employing White Phosphorus on Palestinian children, for instance.
 
2012-11-14 03:02:00 PM

ciberido: ciberido:


I noticed that with over 10 years of Fark archives you didn't try to find a single example to prove me wrong. Surely you can find at least one example showing the /nuance/ you talked about, right? Attack my argument, not me, is that so hard?
 
2012-11-14 03:02:19 PM
If the US simply MUST do something about this, try this on for size:

Move out the entire civilian population. Give them a chunk of land that isn't being used for awhile, like out in Nevada or something. Let all the morons who actually care about "The Holy Land" fight it out until there is a clear winner. Clean up the mess, and move the civilians back in.

I think that most of the people on both sides would rather be left alone to do their own thing. It's just the special few that want to be dicks and blow sit up Because God Said SoTM
 
2012-11-14 03:02:51 PM

mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: a tolerant, democratic, free society


Is this supposed to be a description of the prison-keepers known as Israel?
LAUGH OUT farkING LOUD
 
2012-11-14 03:03:36 PM
I hope Israel invades Lebanon again. It went swimmingly last time.
 
2012-11-14 03:05:16 PM

Silly Jesus: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 409x545]

VS

[fullmetalcynic.files.wordpress.com image 299x400]


If I have to visit either of the possible in-laws, I'll take the PKM.
 
2012-11-14 03:05:28 PM
images.sodahead.com

The rest of the civilized world is so over it. So. Over. It.
 
2012-11-14 03:07:04 PM

mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: The far left loves Muslims for some kooky reason.

Muslims are perceived by the left to be underdogs. And the left worships underdogs. Regardless of the actual issues. Anything that goes against "the man" is good in their eyes. Automatically.

You would think that in a contest between a tolerant, democratic, free society vs. an intolerant, anti-democratic, not free society, the so-called liberals would support the freer society, not the women stoning, gay hanging barbarians.

But Israel is successful and dominant, which makes them "the establishment" They are thus automatically evil, and the underdog muslims virtuous and wonderful.


I confess that there is a degree of truth to this. Liberals do tend to like the underdog and there is thus a tendency to take the side of whoever is perceived to be the underdog in any given situation, all other things being equal.

Any by "a degree of truth," I mean you have, of course, taken a valid observation and cranked it past 11 and to the point of parody. And this again goes back to the point of fetishizing black-and-white thinking because of fundamental inability to appreciate nuance.  "Liberals have a tendency to do this sometimes" becomes "LIBURALS ALWAYS DO THIS!1!!"
 
2012-11-14 03:07:56 PM

nmemkha: marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.

What America did you the Native Americans is an apt comparison. Like Nazi did to the Jews, Israel has concentrated Palestinians into impoverished ghettos and controls their movement. So we agree that Israel is using the tactics of brutal regimes. Like employing White Phosphorus on Palestinian children, for instance.


Quoted for truth. I have never seen any of the suckers of Israel's cock suggest a solution, besides a Final Solution, to the Palestinian Question.
 
2012-11-14 03:08:31 PM

Amusement: The best and only way to beat Israel is not to find toe to toe. Israel will always win in a violent struggle. Economics is the only way to win.


They're going to defeat Israel by out-trading a country full of Jews?
 
2012-11-14 03:08:32 PM

mayIFark: NumberFiveIsAlive: I wonder how many people in here will see that the most recent round of violence started with Hamas attacked the IDF. IDF shoots back, Hamas shoots rockets indescriminately.

Israel does their share of stupid shiat, but Hamas ain't the cherub faced baby in this one.

Oh yeah? As President Clinton Famously said, "Arithmetic".

How many Israelis were killed by Hamas rocket, and how many Palestinians killed by IDF?

Something like 0/500?


Being bad at something doesn't negate the intent.
 
2012-11-14 03:08:32 PM

Insatiable Jesus: SkunkWerks: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: Why is this acceptable?

The rockets are filled with chocolate, clearly.

And the rocket attacks are not part of a false flag operation intended to give Israel the pretense she has been searching for, clearly.


If this is what you think, you are most likely beyond help.
 
2012-11-14 03:08:36 PM

Blue_Blazer: Maybe, but there would still be plenty of us saying "well taking their land was pretty dickieh, and so was the forced resettlement, maybe we should give them some land."


No, we'd give them some rocks to live on. Then when we found oil under those rocks, we'd kick them off the rocks.

In addition to "having God on your side" exclusively, it helps a ton if you make a habit of regarding the people you displace as something less than human. It makes getting to sleep at night easier, after all.
 
2012-11-14 03:08:50 PM

Blue_Blazer: mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: a tolerant, democratic, free society

Is this supposed to be a description of the prison-keepers known as Israel?
LAUGH OUT farkING LOUD


http://www.gaytlvguide.com/

Link

www.gaytlvguide.com

www.gaytlvguide.com

Now show us websites advertising gay tourism in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, U.A.E., etc. 

Israeli law recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. It is the only country in the Middle East and all of Asia to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel
 
2012-11-14 03:10:56 PM

Silly Jesus: boogie_down: To all the myopic idiots posting that this, in actuality, has anything to do with religion.

Please grow the fark up.

Explain.


No.

Read a farking book. Learn something and form your own opinion for once in your life. Grow the fark up.
 
2012-11-14 03:12:20 PM

topcon: I'm far right now? Neat. Might want to read my profile. I'm areligious, support gay rights, abortion, health care reform, and a bunch of other stuff the right hates.

 

I could care less what your profile says. Less so whether you consider yourself to be far right, far left, or neither. I respond to what you say in the thread, not to who you say you are.

But if it makes you feel any better, I am not condemning you personally so much as a mindset which, rightly or wrongly, I felt your post exemplified. If that is indeed not indicative of your true thoughts on the matter, or if I exaggerated or misinterpreted what you said, good on you. 

Take it as a sign that I misjudged you or painted with too broad a brush if you will. I freely admit I am not perfect.
 
2012-11-14 03:12:40 PM

Blue_Blazer: marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.

Maybe, but there would still be plenty of us saying "well taking their land was pretty dickieh, and so was the forced resettlement, maybe we should give them some land."

And instead of a reasonable argument, I would be called Anti-American.


False equivalency. Israel did not "take their land."

Quick history: There had always been some Jews living among the Arabs in the Ottoman Empire's province of Palestine for centuries. Starting in the nineteenth century, more and more Jews began moving to the region and buying land from Arabs or moving into empty, desolate, unused land. Eventually, after World War I and the British gaining control, the UN proposed splitting the area into a Jewish and an Arab state. The Jews agreed; the Arabs did not and declared war.

In the ensuing chaos of war, many Arabs ended up in what is now called the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Some of them left voluntarily either to avoid the war or under orders from the Arab leaders to get out of the way of the invading armies. Others were indeed forcibly expelled by the Haganah (what would become the IDF). It's impossible to know what percentage of the relocation was voluntary and involuntary. Anyway, it happened.

So, you had a bunch of Arabs in what were then parts of Jordan and Egypt. When those countries invaded Israel in 1967, Israel won and took those lands from the two countries for increased future security. Today, Jordan has said that it no longer wants the West Bank, and Egypt does not want Gaza. Under international law, the ownership of the land transferred to Israel because the original owners, the countries, gave up their claims.

Of course, those pieces of land still had a lot of the aforementioned Arabs and now their descendants. What to do? Answer that, and you'll get a Nobel Prize.
 
2012-11-14 03:13:47 PM
Great_Milenko: "really, is your invisible sky fairy worth all this?"

You really think it's about religion?
And not, say, generations of blood feuding and cynical land/power grabs?

Religion is an excuse; a mere marketing pitch to get the people on board who have to do the actual murdering and being murdered.
No religion is *actually* preaching war for the personal enrichment of the ruling class.

Opportunists are twisting religious history and doctrine to *justify* said war. That they want, for their own personal enrichment.
 
2012-11-14 03:14:18 PM

topcon: Blue_Blazer: mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: a tolerant, democratic, free society

Is this supposed to be a description of the prison-keepers known as Israel?
LAUGH OUT farkING LOUD

http://www.gaytlvguide.com/

Link

[www.gaytlvguide.com image 233x420]

[www.gaytlvguide.com image 233x420]

Now show us websites advertising gay tourism in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, U.A.E., etc. 

Israeli law recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. It is the only country in the Middle East and all of Asia to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel


This has nothing to do with my point, namely, continued human rights abuse.
And, for your enjoyment:
www.instablogs.com
 
2012-11-14 03:15:25 PM
Israel has shown restraint over months of rocket attacks. If rocket attacks happened here in America, how fast would we go to war? Within minutes.

Israel cannot defend itself against rocket attacks? Why?
 
2012-11-14 03:15:43 PM

boogie_down: Silly Jesus: boogie_down: To all the myopic idiots posting that this, in actuality, has anything to do with religion.

Please grow the fark up.

Explain.

No.

Read a farking book.


www.prometheusbooks.com
 
2012-11-14 03:16:24 PM

onyxruby: ciberido: A better example would be the ACLU showing support for same-sex marriage one day and defending the Westboro Baptist Church's right to condemn gays the next. It might seem hypocritical or confusing to people who think the entire world is divided into two teams which are polar opposites of each other.

Except the ACLU is a civil rights organization and has defended Westboro Baptist Church as well as others. They have a /consistent/ stand on free speech rights, even when they don't like the people they are defending. My point is with regards to people that change what they consider ethical based on whom the victim is. Bad example.


One of us used a bad example, yes. Perhaps we disagree on which one. 

My point is as you say about the ACLU: we are talking about a group which is comprised of either

A) people that change what they consider ethical based on whom the victim is
-or-
B) people who have a have a /consistent/ stand on civil rights, even when they don't like the people they are defending.

It would seem that you have picked (A) and I (B).
 
2012-11-14 03:16:47 PM

boogie_down: Silly Jesus: boogie_down: To all the myopic idiots posting that this, in actuality, has anything to do with religion.

Please grow the fark up.

Explain.

No.

Read a farking book. Learn something and form your own opinion for once in your life. Grow the fark up.


DIAF
 
2012-11-14 03:16:55 PM

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Israel has shown restraint over months of rocket attacks. If rocket attacks happened here in America, how fast would we go to war? Within minutes.

Israel cannot defend itself against rocket attacks? Why?


Because we need to defend Islam no matter how many of them kill Americans because it's just a small handful of them that are terrorists and there really aren't any terrorists anyway.
 
2012-11-14 03:17:24 PM
Well,this certainly beats the hell out of "Twins Tag Team The Generals".
 
2012-11-14 03:17:47 PM

Blue_Blazer: topcon: Blue_Blazer: mark12A: topcon: I'll say it again: a tolerant, democratic, free society

Is this supposed to be a description of the prison-keepers known as Israel?
LAUGH OUT farkING LOUD

http://www.gaytlvguide.com/

Link

[www.gaytlvguide.com image 233x420]

[www.gaytlvguide.com image 233x420]

Now show us websites advertising gay tourism in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, U.A.E., etc. 

Israeli law recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. It is the only country in the Middle East and all of Asia to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

This has nothing to do with my point, namely, continued human rights abuse.
And, for your enjoyment:
[www.instablogs.com image 460x211]


Eskimo kisses?
 
2012-11-14 03:18:31 PM
So Israel was attacked and provoked repeatedly until the point they got pissed off and biatch slapped a yapping whelp.
 
2012-11-14 03:18:43 PM

onyxruby: ciberido: ciberido:

I noticed that with over 10 years of Fark archives you didn't try to find a single example to prove me wrong. Surely you can find at least one example showing the /nuance/ you talked about, right? Attack my argument, not me, is that so hard?


I'm not trying to "prove you wrong." Nor do I have the time or inclination to dance to your tune. If you think that you "win" if I don't answer every challenge to your satisfaction, then enjoy your "victory."
 
2012-11-14 03:19:50 PM
animesalvation.com 
Obvious
 
2012-11-14 03:20:07 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I think there is only one way to settle this. Jello

For the Jews:

[img849.imageshack.us image 450x590]

For Hamas:

Do they have chicks in Hamas?


Yea but cant tell if they are hot or not

www.sott.net
 
2012-11-14 03:20:28 PM

ciberido: topcon: I'm far right now? Neat. Might want to read my profile. I'm areligious, support gay rights, abortion, health care reform, and a bunch of other stuff the right hates. 

I could care less what your profile says. Less so whether you consider yourself to be far right, far left, or neither. I respond to what you say in the thread, not to who you say you are.

But if it makes you feel any better, I am not condemning you personally so much as a mindset which, rightly or wrongly, I felt your post exemplified. If that is indeed not indicative of your true thoughts on the matter, or if I exaggerated or misinterpreted what you said, good on you. 

Take it as a sign that I misjudged you or painted with too broad a brush if you will. I freely admit I am not perfect.


I'm just telling you what I see here on a regular basis, in a nutshell:

American Christians = bad, need to be destroyed.

Foreign Muslims = good, must be preserved.

That's a simplification, but it's true. All this despite the religion of Islam being incompatible with freedoms humanity deserves that the left espouses, that everyone should ideally believe in. And I realize that many of these beliefs are shared with Christianity...but not many Christian-majority nations beat, imprison, and behead women who try to drive, get an education, or wear pants, or murder people who might even be SUSPECTED of being homosexual.

The difference between this majority "self identified" Christian nation of America is, even gay dudes can go out in public holding hands, or even kissing in public. How many majority-Muslim countries can they do that in? Parts of Turkey, maybe?
 
2012-11-14 03:20:56 PM

Evil Mackerel: Eskimo kisses?


As someone who is part Eskimo, I take umbrage at that.
 
2012-11-14 03:20:59 PM

bostonguy: Blue_Blazer: marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.

Maybe, but there would still be plenty of us saying "well taking their land was pretty dickieh, and so was the forced resettlement, maybe we should give them some land."

And instead of a reasonable argument, I would be called Anti-American.

False equivalency. Israel did not "take their land."

Quick history: There had always been some Jews living among the Arabs in the Ottoman Empire's province of Palestine for centuries. Starting in the nineteenth century, more and more Jews began moving to the region and buying land from Arabs or moving into empty, desolate, unused land. Eventually, after World War I and the British gaining control, the UN proposed splitting the area into a Jewish and an Arab state. The Jews agreed; the Arabs did not and declared war.

In the ensuing chaos of war, many Arabs ended up in what is now called the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Some of them left voluntarily either to avoid the war or under orders from the Arab leaders to get out of the way of the invading armies. Others were indeed forcibly expelled by the Haganah (what would become the IDF). It's impossible to know what percentage of the relocation was voluntary and involuntary. Anyway, it happened.

So, you had a bunch of Arabs in what were then parts of Jordan and Egypt. When those countries invaded Israel in 1967, Israel won and took those lands from the two countries for increased future security. Today, Jordan has said that it no longer wants the West Bank, and Egypt does not want Gaza. Under international law, the ownership of the land transferred to Israel because the original owners, the countries, gave up th ...


I appreciate your take on this, but you are leaving out that the land, as you say, did not belong to the Palestinians who lived there, but rather belonged to Egypt and Jordan. So yeah, they didn't really care either way, they weren't using it anyway.
So yes, it was never legally Palestinian land, but it was, in fact, Palestinian land.
 
2012-11-14 03:21:13 PM
What America did you the Native Americans is an apt comparison. Like Nazi did to the Jews, Israel has concentrated Palestinians into impoverished ghettos and controls their movement. So we agree that Israel is using the tactics of brutal regimes. Like employing White Phosphorus on Palestinian children, for instance.

Quoted for truth. I have never seen any of the suckers of Israel's cock suggest a solution, besides a Final Solution, to the Palestinian Question.


How about this for a Final Solution: Palestinians stop attacking Israelis every farking chance they get. Maybe stop acting like non-story irrational mad dogs and try to work out a deal. Stop teaching their children non-stop to hate Jews.

If the Palistinians HAD ANY BRAINS AT ALL, they would gain the favor of the world, and Israel, by responsibly running the Gaza Strip as a democratic, fair and just society, instead of just another Islamic thugocracy.

Before Israel existed, the Jews bought some desert wasteland (Haifa), SOLD TO THEM BY ARABS, developed it into something productive, which the Arabs then turned around and tried to take back.

Maybe the muslims should try doing something productive, for once.
 
2012-11-14 03:22:33 PM
Ah, WWIII, just in time for the Mayans to be right.
 
2012-11-14 03:23:30 PM

Silly Jesus: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 409x545]

VS

[fullmetalcynic.files.wordpress.com image 299x400]


I notice the one on the bottom has her nails done. Must be shopped. No self respecting Jihadess would mark her body with whore paint
 
2012-11-14 03:24:13 PM

bostonguy: Blue_Blazer: marsgwar: nmemkha: So we agree, they have a right to be upset. Given Israel's decades long brutal occupation, violence is expected and arguably justified.

So is the retaliation by Israel. It's called a war. If Native American tribes started shooting rockets at US tragets to get back land, we would retaliate accordingly and wouldn't be wrong for doing so.

Maybe, but there would still be plenty of us saying "well taking their land was pretty dickieh, and so was the forced resettlement, maybe we should give them some land."

And instead of a reasonable argument, I would be called Anti-American.

False equivalency. Israel did not "take their land."

Quick history: There had always been some Jews living among the Arabs in the Ottoman Empire's province of Palestine for centuries. Starting in the nineteenth century, more and more Jews began moving to the region and buying land from Arabs or moving into empty, desolate, unused land. Eventually, after World War I and the British gaining control, the UN proposed splitting the area into a Jewish and an Arab state. The Jews agreed; the Arabs did not and declared war.

In the ensuing chaos of war, many Arabs ended up in what is now called the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Some of them left voluntarily either to avoid the war or under orders from the Arab leaders to get out of the way of the invading armies. Others were indeed forcibly expelled by the Haganah (what would become the IDF). It's impossible to know what percentage of the relocation was voluntary and involuntary. Anyway, it happened.

So, you had a bunch of Arabs in what were then parts of Jordan and Egypt. When those countries invaded Israel in 1967, Israel won and took those lands from the two countries for increased future security. Today, Jordan has said that it no longer wants the West Bank, and Egypt does not want Gaza. Under international law, the ownership of the land transferred to Israel because the original owners, the countries, gave up th ...


Of course the Jews accepted, they had nothing. It would like France invading America tomorrow and then giving America back to Native Americans because they owned it back in the day. Then concentrating all the present day Americans into internment camps and controlling their movements and keeping them in enforced poverty through blockades and the like. Do you think Americans would fight back?
 
2012-11-14 03:24:15 PM
Looks like there will be more money made in scrap metal than making tall cranes or long metal cylinders today. That's your Gaza strip economic report.
 
2012-11-14 03:27:10 PM
Regardless of the ideology on either side, who doesn't know by now that if you piss off the Israelis they WILL turn you into a grease spot?
 
2012-11-14 03:27:56 PM

mark12A:



How about this for a Final Solution: Israelis stop attacking Palestinians every farking chance they get. Maybe stop acting like non-story irrational mad dogs and try to work out a deal. Stop teaching their children non-stop to hate Palestinians.

If the Israelis HAD ANY BRAINS AT ALL, they would gain the favor of the world, and Palestine, by responsibly running the Gaza Strip as a democratic, fair and just society, instead of just another ghetto..


FTFY.
 
2012-11-14 03:29:59 PM
Good for them. F Hamas. What has Israel ever done wrong? If it wasn't for being constantly threatened with genocide the world would be a better place. That and if Muslims went to Mars.
 
2012-11-14 03:30:49 PM

ideamaster: JosephFinn: willfullyobscure: RELIGION OF PEACE

It seems a bit unfair to blame Judaism for Israel's invasion, attacks on Palestine and piracy in international waters of aid ships to the Gaza Strip.

So which sovereign indian tribe do you belong to?

As for "piracy".

Israel: You are welcome to dock and have your equipment unloaded and inspected by us.

"aid ships": We aren't listening, nananah.

Israel: Stop or you will be boarded and searched

"aid ships": We aren't listening. nananah

Israel: Okay fine. *boards and searches*

Guess what Israel found on those "aid ships" - Munitions!

And for those of you who don't know what munitions are:
military weapons, ammunition, equipment, and stores


For people that can read, but I doubt you care:
http://www.humanevents.com/2010/06/10/gaza-flotilla-group-has-violent - past/

He failed to mention activists had access to knives, metal rods, clubs, bulletproof vests and night vision goggles. Fifty lacked passports while carrying large amounts of cash. Onboard as well were building supplies, such as cement, routinely used by Hamas to construct bunkers in Gaza.


So you admit Israel boarded ships in international and Palestinian waters, committing piracy. They had no right to request or force inspection as the ships were not headed to Israel.
 
2012-11-14 03:31:18 PM
bostonguy: "Answer that, and you'll get a Nobel Prize."

The problem is that you can't have a country asserting a simultaneous claim to the *right* to a chunk of land but no *responsibilities* to the people who do and have inhabited it for generations. Thus the answers are simple and have long since been hit upon: either A.) relinquish the claim of rights and recognize a sovereign Palestinian State or B.) accept the responsibility and integrate the Palestinians into Israel as full and equal citizens. Short of that, you've just got Apartheid with religious garnish.

The challenge, is in getting two ruling classes to actually implement and stick to these well-understood solutions, due the personal loss of status and power that they would suffer.
 
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