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(Sports Illustrated)   Bad: Being stopped from tweeting and driving by a cop. Worse: Being stopped by NASCAR from doing it during a race   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 30
    More: Dumbass, Brad Keselowski, Phoenix International Raceway, NASCAR, Aric Almirola, Juan Pablo Montoya, Penske Racing, Joey Logano, Clint Bowyer  
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2012-11-14 01:08:37 PM  
"The caller is inside the house".

PUT.DOWN.YOUR.PHONE. For farks sake people, you do not *need* a phone.
 
2012-11-14 01:10:17 PM  
i10.photobucket.com

/same difference.
 
2012-11-14 01:19:09 PM  
 
2012-11-14 01:20:00 PM  
To be fair, a bunch of fans (myself included) only remembered when, after gaining 100,000+ followers on Twitter by tweeting through a lengthy red flag at Daytona, NASCAR said that Brad Keselowski had broken no rules and done no wrong. In fact, they sort of suggested that they encouraged such behavior (as long as it was safe, anyway).

We somehow missed the part where they, according to them anyway, immediately made such behavior against series rules.

Supposedly, no one called him out on tweeting in the car following races earlier this season. And the rule isn't against texting, but against having a computer or any onboard electronics in the car, so it would have been just as illegal then.

That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.
 
2012-11-14 01:25:17 PM  

pwn3d781: To be fair, a bunch of fans (myself included) only remembered when, after gaining 100,000+ followers on Twitter by tweeting through a lengthy red flag at Daytona, NASCAR said that Brad Keselowski had broken no rules and done no wrong. In fact, they sort of suggested that they encouraged such behavior (as long as it was safe, anyway).

We somehow missed the part where they, according to them anyway, immediately made such behavior against series rules.

Supposedly, no one called him out on tweeting in the car following races earlier this season. And the rule isn't against texting, but against having a computer or any onboard electronics in the car, so it would have been just as illegal then.

That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.


Why would it be a tinfoil hat crowd?

NASCAR is as scripted as pro wrestling. The rulebook (which the public has never seen) is easily manipulated by Lil' Brian and crew to read whatever they want it to to either help or punish whoever they want, so they get the result they believe is best for "growing the sport"... much the same way Vince McMahon manipulates the audio on his TV shows to make it seem like wrestlers the fans love get no reaction, or are hated.

The Bookerman doesn't need to explain anything.
 
2012-11-14 01:31:51 PM  
that's right nascar.. punish the one interesting thing you've got going on for you.
 
2012-11-14 01:33:17 PM  

pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.


Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.
 
2012-11-14 01:36:52 PM  

good_2_go: pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.

Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.


good_2_go: pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.

Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.


NASCAR needs a return to pre-2004 championship rules, Brian France to leave the company, Drivers to no longer be boring automatons, and short tracks to return.

It'll never happen.

And every race you watch or piece of merchandise you buy makes them think they're doing the right thing.
 
2012-11-14 02:17:18 PM  
good_2_go, Brad's just fortunate he didn't get a points penalty for a repeat "offense." After all, we don't want to deprive Jimmie of a "fair" (manufactured) opportunity for his sixth title, now, do we?

FNB, I'm trying to give NASCAR the benefit of the doubt, for some silly reason. I know that ARCA announced a prohibition against having cell phones in the car earlier this year. Therefore, it seems fitting that NASCAR would have done so, too. Like you said, it's not like they make the rulebook available for us, so they can say that interpretation was announced three years ago, and all we can do is smile and nod.

Brad had a good gimmick going; being able to share the athlete's perspective in the middle of the event is something few other sports will either allow or facilitate. And in an era when the unstoppable champion has no personality, the new villain is more of a punk, and the elder statesmen are too eager to parrot the company line, NASCAR needs to take advantage of that opportunity.
 
2012-11-14 02:30:38 PM  

pwn3d781: Brad's just fortunate he didn't get a points penalty for a repeat "offense."


Speaking of, it's adorable how Jeff Gordon only got -25 points and a $100k fine for his stunt.
 
2012-11-14 02:47:28 PM  
Consistency?
In my NASCAR?
It's less likely than you think.

rassum frassum nascar and their inability to enforce the rules...
 
2012-11-14 02:48:59 PM  

The Bestest: pwn3d781: Brad's just fortunate he didn't get a points penalty for a repeat "offense."

Speaking of, it's adorable how Jeff Gordon only got -25 points and a $100k fine for his stunt.


I still have to stop and think that a 25-point penalty in today's system is like a 100-point penalty under the old points system.

Gordon wasn't going to get suspended. I think NASCAR still views him as too much of a fan commodity to risk losing him for a week, particularly on the 20th anniversary of his first Cup race. And since he doesn't have a track record like the Busch brothers, it's harder to justify sending him on vacation.

Jeff's probably lucky that Clint never managed to get to him after the race, or maybe the two of them WOULD have been suspended for the resulting fisticuffs.

At least this time, Jeff was man enough to take his helmet off, though.
 
2012-11-14 03:00:58 PM  
NASCAR: See empty seats at 180 MPH.
 
2012-11-14 03:29:27 PM  

The Bestest: pwn3d781: Brad's just fortunate he didn't get a points penalty for a repeat "offense."

Speaking of, it's adorable how Jeff Gordon only got -25 points and a $100k fine for his stunt.


But-but-but Carl Long!!!!!
 
2012-11-14 03:29:37 PM  
OK, not much of a fan here, but I like Gordon. Now, question: A guy I know hates Gordon and on his old truck has a sticker that says Fans Against Gordon, and I told him I liked it and asked why he had it. He thought it meant folks that liked Gordon were the f words. Can I get a Fark ruling on that possibly?
 
2012-11-14 04:19:42 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Is smoking ok?


What, he didn't also have a coffee in a cup the size of a milk pail? He must have been on a health kick that week!
 
2012-11-14 04:22:14 PM  
FirstNationalBastard:
NASCAR is as scripted as pro wrestling.

Yeah, uh... no.
 
2012-11-14 04:34:08 PM  

uncleacid: NASCAR: See empty seats at 180 MPH.


I've been amazed by the amount of empty seats and covered over sections of stands visable at just about every race this year. Some of those races are starting to look like Tampa Bay Rays games.
 
2012-11-14 04:57:54 PM  

theborg1of4: FirstNationalBastard:
NASCAR is as scripted as pro wrestling.

Yeah, uh... no.


When the same driver was allowed to get away with everything short of putting a damn JATO unit on his car and win five championships in a row and only his crew chief got suspended, it reeks of being scripted. See also: his points penalty in which he was at negative points after Daytona getting magically reversed upon appeal. Tell me, how many top drivers have gotten a penalty reversed?

I will not rest until they catch that asshat with something and they banish him along with Knauss.
 
2012-11-14 05:22:15 PM  

dallylamma: uncleacid: NASCAR: See empty seats at 180 MPH.

I've been amazed by the amount of empty seats and covered over sections of stands visable at just about every race this year. Some of those races are starting to look like Tampa Bay Rays games.


I also watch the trucks and Nationwide races. It must be TV money keeping them alive.
 
2012-11-14 05:29:56 PM  

angry_scientist: OK, not much of a fan here, but I like Gordon. Now, question: A guy I know hates Gordon and on his old truck has a sticker that says Fans Against Gordon, and I told him I liked it and asked why he had it. He thought it meant folks that liked Gordon were the f words. Can I get a Fark ruling on that possibly?


Wow, I haven't seen Fans Against Gordon stuff in a long time. I never thought it was Gordon's fans so much as Gordon himself. (And to that end, it was more like that line in "Money For Nothing" where it wasn't so much that he was "gay," just that he was the F-word.)

To be fair, when Gordon came into NASCAR, he was not the stereotypical redneck. He wasn't flamboyant like Tim Richmond, but he was different, a kid who grew up driving midget and sprint cars with designs on running Indy until the first time he drove a stock car. And when he made it to Cup, his first start was behind the wheel of a fully-sponsored car owned by one of the series' top teams. He didn't have to "earn" his ride by proving his mettle in a slower car first. While half the starting field probably hailed from the Carolinas or Virginia or Georgia or Tennessee, Gordon was a California native by way of Indiana. He wasn't an outdoorsman like Earnhardt or Childress or Ward Burton; he was a pretty boy who wore a mustache to look older, and married a Miss Winston model in the '94 off-season. He was an outsider in a still-insular sport.

When I started following NASCAR in 1995, Gordon was coming off a promising but wreck-filled rookie season and a sophomore season where he won two big races (the World 600 and the inaugural Brickyard 400). And as he fought for his first title, he was going head to head against Dale Earnhardt, the established image of the good ol' boy, a guy who dropped out of school as a teen and became a regional hero. Dale played up the rivalry; after winning the second Brickyard 400, he claimed to be "the first man to win the Brickyard 400," and cautioned that the Waldorf-Astoria would have to serve milk at the championship banquet because Gordon was just a kid (Jeff turned 24 that summer). And when Gordon won the '95 title, he toasted Dale from the podium with a glass of milk.

Jeff Gordon's arrival and ascent were a sort of changing of the guard. Before Gordon, most drivers followed the "traditional" path of rising through the ranks, from street stocks to late models to a regional touring series to the Busch Series or ARCA. In the early days, they were blue-collar heroes. Gordon ushered in a youth movement, where young drivers were hired and fired and tested and burned out in hopes of finding the next Jeff Gordon.

Jeff Gordon wasn't the first "outsider," nor would he be the last, but as the harbinger of the changing of the guard, he took a lot of guff from the old-guard fans because he was different from the drivers before him. Of course, pointing out that he wasn't as "manly" as Earnhardt or Rusty Wallace was an easy attack.

It didn't help his case that his first paint scheme for DuPont was rainbow-striped, and his second major scheme was emblazoned with flames. I still wonder if Sam Bass was just trolling him.
 
2012-11-14 05:30:27 PM  
Subtard has shiat for brains. It's not like he's tweeting and driving. He was tweeting during red flags. You know, when the cars are stopped.
 
2012-11-14 05:47:03 PM  

bluorangefyre: theborg1of4: FirstNationalBastard:
NASCAR is as scripted as pro wrestling.

Yeah, uh... no.

When the same driver was allowed to get away with everything short of putting a damn JATO unit on his car and win five championships in a row and only his crew chief got suspended, it reeks of being scripted. See also: his points penalty in which he was at negative points after Daytona getting magically reversed upon appeal. Tell me, how many top drivers have gotten a penalty reversed?

I will not rest until they catch that asshat with something and they banish him along with Knauss.


If it was well and truly rigged wouldn't Junior show up in the winner's circle more than one every three seasons?

Going back to my comment about the empty seats, I pointed the visable attendance drop out to a buddy who is a hardcore NASCAR fan a few weeks ago when Junior was on the shelf with his concussion. My buddy said it was due to Jr.Nation staying home becuase their boy wasn't in the race.

My response was that NASCAR better figure out how to keep that SOB in the car until he's 80 if that's the case, otherwise they are farked.
 
2012-11-14 07:26:07 PM  
NASCAR 'ended' the practice of super-secret fines for talking shiat about officiating after they caught a metric farkton of media flak over it. They've just fallen back to their old standby of selective enforcement against those who cross them.
 
2012-11-14 07:37:23 PM  

angry_scientist: OK, not much of a fan here, but I like Gordon. Now, question: A guy I know hates Gordon and on his old truck has a sticker that says Fans Against Gordon, and I told him I liked it and asked why he had it. He thought it meant folks that liked Gordon were the f words. Can I get a Fark ruling on that possibly?


Comedian Tim Wilson got so tired of the obnoxious Earnhardt fans calling Gordon gay he wrote this NSFW song.
 
2012-11-14 10:30:21 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Subtard has shiat for brains. It's not like he's tweeting and driving. He was tweeting during red flags. You know, when the cars are stopped.


You know, NASCAR still fined him and told him to stop.

Interestingly, you can be charged with drunk driving if the car is off and the keys out of the ignition if you are found asleep/drunk behind the shell.
 
2012-11-15 03:24:14 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: good_2_go: pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.

Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.

good_2_go: pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.

Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.

NASCAR needs a return to pre-2004 championship rules, Brian France to leave the company, Drivers to no longer be boring automatons, and short tracks to return.

It'll never happen.

And every race you watch or piece of merchandise you buy makes them think they're doing the right thing.


When this season ends, and Brad Keselowski wins under the current and old points system, I'm going to laugh my ass off as your miserable conspiracy theory fails abjectly, and finally.

good_2_go: pwn3d781: That's why the tinfoil-hat crowd thinks the fine is actually to cover Brad's criticisms of NASCAR's race directing, not the cell phone thing.

Brad also tweeted during a red flag at Richmond this year. No fine for that. But a day after his angry but articulate diatribe littered with colorful vulgarities (which broke no rules) he gets fined and probation. This stinks to high heaven. NASCAR needs Brad Keselowski, but they're far too stupid or corrupt to see it.


Exactly.

dallylamma: uncleacid: NASCAR: See empty seats at 180 MPH.

I've been amazed by the amount of empty seats and covered over sections of stands visable at just about every race this year. Some of those races are starting to look like Tampa Bay Rays games.


That's the economy more than anything, I think. When belts are tightened, things like race tickets are out the window.

Snort: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subtard has shiat for brains. It's not like he's tweeting and driving. He was tweeting during red flags. You know, when the cars are stopped.

You know, NASCAR still fined him and told him to stop.

Interestingly, you can be charged with drunk driving if the car is off and the keys out of the ignition if you are found asleep/drunk behind the shell.


When? NASCAR even ran commercials showing Brad tweeting in his car with the tagline "See what he sees." This is a cheap excuse to punish him for being vocal about his opinions that were not kind to NASCAR.
 
2012-11-15 10:45:48 AM  

FiendishFellow05: Snort: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subtard has shiat for brains. It's not like he's tweeting and driving. He was tweeting during red flags. You know, when the cars are stopped.

You know, NASCAR still fined him and told him to stop.

Interestingly, you can be charged with drunk driving if the car is off and the keys out of the ignition if you are found asleep/drunk behind the shell.

When? NASCAR even ran commercials showing Brad tweeting in his car with the tagline "See what he sees." This is a cheap excuse to punish him for being vocal about his opinions that were not kind to NASCAR.


FTFA: Turns out, tweeting from the car isn't cool with NASCAR.
Keselowski was fined $25,000 on Monday for tweeting during the red flag at Phoenix International Raceway. The punishment was confusing to fans who vented on Twitter, of course, wondering why Keselowski was punished for Sunday's tweets when he was celebrated by NASCAR for doing the exact same thing in February's season-opening race.
 
2012-11-16 08:27:15 AM  

Snort: FiendishFellow05: Snort: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subtard has shiat for brains. It's not like he's tweeting and driving. He was tweeting during red flags. You know, when the cars are stopped.

You know, NASCAR still fined him and told him to stop.

Interestingly, you can be charged with drunk driving if the car is off and the keys out of the ignition if you are found asleep/drunk behind the shell.

When? NASCAR even ran commercials showing Brad tweeting in his car with the tagline "See what he sees." This is a cheap excuse to punish him for being vocal about his opinions that were not kind to NASCAR.

FTFA: Turns out, tweeting from the car isn't cool with NASCAR.
Keselowski was fined $25,000 on Monday for tweeting during the red flag at Phoenix International Raceway. The punishment was confusing to fans who vented on Twitter, of course, wondering why Keselowski was punished for Sunday's tweets when he was celebrated by NASCAR for doing the exact same thing in February's season-opening race.


I know he was fined after Phoenix. I thought you meant he had been fined for it at some other point.
 
2012-11-16 04:17:07 PM  

bluorangefyre: theborg1of4: FirstNationalBastard:
NASCAR is as scripted as pro wrestling.

Yeah, uh... no.

When the same driver was allowed to get away with everything short of putting a damn JATO unit on his car and win five championships in a row and only his crew chief got suspended, it reeks of being scripted. See also: his points penalty in which he was at negative points after Daytona getting magically reversed upon appeal. Tell me, how many top drivers have gotten a penalty reversed?

I will not rest until they catch that asshat with something and they banish him along with Knauss.


You should loosen the straps on your tinfoil hat, I think they're cutting off blood flow to your brain. Your observation that the 48 car won five championships in a row is not evidence, it's a statement of fact. Your statement that "it reeks of being scripted" is not evidence,it's opinion. Someone earlier mentioned Jr, to which I add that of all the drivers that NASCAR would like to see succeed I'm pretty sure Brad K isn't very high on the list. Whether NASCAR deals with penalties on equal footing is perhaps arguable, but extrapolating that to somehow imply conspiracy to commit fraud on a massive scale that goes unnoticed by teams, corporate sponsors and fans is silly.
 
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