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(New York Daily News)   They call him "Tebow the Terrible"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 176
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2012-11-14 11:31:22 AM  
Ah, there's the cohesion and support for teammates you see from good teams. Oh wait, it's the Jets.

/funny re-reading the "The Secret" part of The Book of Basketball last night, then this article this morning. Jets are a dumpster fire full of failures and sh*tty teammates.
 
2012-11-14 11:44:20 AM  
freeversephotography.com
 
2012-11-14 11:50:45 AM  
So flash in the pan, mediocre QB is going to get replaced by a flash in the pan, mediocre qb?

Call me when the jets finally start really caring who plays QB.
 
2012-11-14 11:51:27 AM  

Ennuipoet: [freeversephotography.com image 635x484]


Nailed to the bench.
 
2012-11-14 12:00:46 PM  
Well, I'm hearing that the entire team is what's causing Sanchez to have a poor season, and I'm hearing all of those same substandard players say that Sanchez is the best option, and that Tebow is terrible. I'm wondering why anyone is even interviewing these losers?

/Jets suck
/Go Gators!
 
2012-11-14 12:07:24 PM  
Mmmmmm... that boy's good alright. Good n' terrible.
 
2012-11-14 12:19:52 PM  

IAmRight: Ennuipoet: [freeversephotography.com image 635x484]

Nailed to the bench.


He's actually still winding up to throw that pass.

It'll fall incomplete just before kickoff tomorrow.
 
2012-11-14 12:25:07 PM  

Jubeebee: It'll fall incomplete just before kickoff tomorrow.


Now now, he's got an 83% completion rate this year, and was 3/3 last week (for a whole 8 yards).
 
2012-11-14 01:15:46 PM  
Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.
 
2012-11-14 01:49:12 PM  
That's turrible.
 
2012-11-14 01:52:03 PM  

MeinRS6: Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.


the lingerie league scares him and he doesnt like maple syrup in his beer.
 
2012-11-14 01:56:10 PM  

MeinRS6: Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.


I'm pretty sure he isn't eligible to play in the NCAA again...
 
2012-11-14 02:00:46 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses:

I'm pretty sure he isn't eligible to play in the NCAA again...


Wait until the second coming.
 
2012-11-14 02:03:04 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com

WHY?! WHY did Elway trade him to the Jets?! He didn't deserve this! ;_;
 
2012-11-14 02:04:13 PM  
Well, the Jets would know terrible when they see it, wouldn't they?!?!
 
2012-11-14 02:10:27 PM  

MeinRS6: Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.


Yeah, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats just got bounced out of the playoffs...
 
2012-11-14 02:22:18 PM  
What amused/irritated me about the commentators at the Seahawks game is that they kept saying stuff like:

"If Sanchez was in there the whole time, he wouldn't struggle as much."

and

"Tebow being on the Jets is distracting Sanchez and affecting his play."

I found this amusing because Sanchez has sucked completely and totally since day one in the NFL. Whoever his backup QB is, and whoever is on the field when he sits on the bench for a play, does nothing to affect his total suckitude.
 
2012-11-14 02:25:21 PM  

Jubeebee: IAmRight: Ennuipoet: [freeversephotography.com image 635x484]

Nailed to the bench.

He's actually still winding up to throw that pass.

It'll fall incomplete just before kickoff tomorrow.


Show how much football you watch. He went 3 for 3 and 8 yards. Which sounds pretty bad until you see how Sanchez did. To say nothing of Jay Cutler.
 
2012-11-14 02:25:45 PM  
I never understood the draw of this guy. Was it because he embodied what many political pundits claimed to espouse? Probably. Who cares. Can he be used as a 'slash' type player? Yes? He'll hang a bit. No? He's done.
 
2012-11-14 02:26:30 PM  
Apparently Chuck Barkley plays for the Jets. Who knew?

Also, it might just be time to let that Tebow dream go. If his teammates think he's terrible, he might just be terrible. Pretty sure NFLers would play alongside a felon if it gave them a better chance to win, and they don't want to play with this guy.

He just isn't good, and if there was any justice in the sports media world we'd never have to hear about him again. Which means, of course, this we be talked about incessantly for the rest of the week.
 
2012-11-14 02:27:07 PM  

Tickle Mittens: Jubeebee: IAmRight: Ennuipoet: [freeversephotography.com image 635x484]

Nailed to the bench.

He's actually still winding up to throw that pass.

It'll fall incomplete just before kickoff tomorrow.

Show how much football you watch. He went 3 for 3 and 8 yards. Which sounds pretty bad until you see how Sanchez did. To say nothing of Jay Cutler.


Can you please leave our 7-2 record out of this?
 
2012-11-14 02:31:41 PM  

iamskibibitz: MeinRS6: Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.

Yeah, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats just got bounced out of the playoffs...


Meh I'd say Winnipeg maybe, but that's only because Buck Pierce can't walk outside without getting injured and the backups suck more than anyone has ever sucked before. But giving Tebow fewer downs, more players and a bigger field doesn't seem like a good plan for success either.
 
2012-11-14 02:33:11 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I never understood the draw of this guy.



People either love him or hate him......or are in the small minority of people who don't care either way....like me.

CSB:

A friend of mine and fellow Seahawks fan actually hates Tebow more than Rapistberger. WTF?!
 
2012-11-14 02:35:45 PM  

js34603: He just isn't good, and if there was any justice in the sports media world we'd never have to hear about him again. Which means, of course, this we be talked about incessantly for the rest of the week.


I'm going to turn on ESPN and see if there's a Tebow tidbit in the crawl.

...

Item #3: Rex Ryan on Tebow

Sigh.
 
2012-11-14 02:36:09 PM  

js34603: Also, it might just be time to let that Tebow dream go. If his teammates think he's terrible, he might just be terrible


Yeah, look how that worked out for Drew Brees. They thought he was hurt.
 
2012-11-14 02:38:16 PM  
When the Atlanta Falcons had Mike Vick and made the playoffs, they geared their offense to his talents--they put in a zone blocking scheme and had the best running game in the league. They fell one game short of the Superbowl one year doing that. Despite a bucket load more of talent, Vick has not done as well in Philly as he had in Atlanta. Last year with Tebow in Denver, John Fox did the same thing, ran an offense geared to take advantage of Tebow's talents; they ran a lot of options and other plays designed especially for Tebow. And Tebow took a team that was going nowhere and made the playoffs with it.

But the Jets are not doing that. Their coach lacks the simple intelligence of most high school coaches, who regularly change their offenses to fit the talents of their players. I watched some of the Jets game last weekend, and the way they used Tebow was downright retarded. They were shuttling him in on short yardage plays so that everyone in the stadium knew what was coming. And the one time they changed it up and Tebow passed off of this setup, he hit his receiver dead in the numbers--and the receiver dropped the ball. Then holding was called on the play anyways.

It seems like old Tim is in a bad place, with a mentally challenged coach and disgruntled teammates who have quit on the season, are playing out the string and need a scapegoat to blame their failure on. If they put him in now, with all this crapola
going on, he will be doomed to failure. He needs to get away from the Jets before they end his career for him with their mismanagement. He is a proven winner, they are nothing but mouth.
 
2012-11-14 02:39:01 PM  
During the game on Sunday against the Seahawks, Sanchez completed a 30+ yard pass. The next play Tebow came in and did nothing. The camera showed Sanchez on the sideline with a WTF is going on here look. Tebow is just a gimmick.
 
2012-11-14 02:41:09 PM  
Meh. Of course he sucks as a "practice player". Practice is scripted. Nothing Tebow does successfully is scripted - it's all off the cuff. That'll work in college, but not the NFL.
 
2012-11-14 02:43:52 PM  

IAmRight: Ah, there's the cohesion and support for teammates you see from good teams. Oh wait, it's the Jets.

/funny re-reading the "The Secret" part of The Book of Basketball last night, then this article this morning. Jets are a dumpster fire full of failures and sh*tty teammates.


That's what I got out of it.

/waiting for some shutterbug to catch Andy Reid and Rex Ryan on a bender and doing blow off a hookers ass.
 
2012-11-14 02:45:32 PM  

varmitydog: When the Atlanta Falcons had Mike Vick and made the playoffs, they geared their offense to his talents--they put in a zone blocking scheme and had the best running game in the league. They fell one game short of the Superbowl one year doing that. Despite a bucket load more of talent, Vick has not done as well in Philly as he had in Atlanta. Last year with Tebow in Denver, John Fox did the same thing, ran an offense geared to take advantage of Tebow's talents; they ran a lot of options and other plays designed especially for Tebow. And Tebow took a team that was going nowhere and made the playoffs with it.

But the Jets are not doing that. Their coach lacks the simple intelligence of most high school coaches, who regularly change their offenses to fit the talents of their players. I watched some of the Jets game last weekend, and the way they used Tebow was downright retarded. They were shuttling him in on short yardage plays so that everyone in the stadium knew what was coming. And the one time they changed it up and Tebow passed off of this setup, he hit his receiver dead in the numbers--and the receiver dropped the ball. Then holding was called on the play anyways.

It seems like old Tim is in a bad place, with a mentally challenged coach and disgruntled teammates who have quit on the season, are playing out the string and need a scapegoat to blame their failure on. If they put him in now, with all this crapola
going on, he will be doomed to failure. He needs to get away from the Jets before they end his career for him with their mismanagement. He is a proven winner, they are nothing but mouth.


Skip Bayless?

They are nothing but mouth and two AFC Championship games in the last three years, you mean right?
 
2012-11-14 02:45:40 PM  
That can't be true because Tebow is a LEADER and a WINNER! Players want to be him. After a year of child support payments, Antonio Cromartie wishes he was gay.
 
2012-11-14 02:46:48 PM  

Rapmaster2000: After a year of child support payments, Antonio Cromartie wishes he was gay.



I LOL'd.
 
2012-11-14 02:47:12 PM  
wiseolddude: During the game on Sunday against the Seahawks, Sanchez completed a 30+ yard pass. The next play Tebow came in and did nothing. The camera showed Sanchez on the sideline with a WTF is going on here look. Tebow is just a gimmick.

Sanchez's look was probably because he was stunned he actually completed a pass. If Sanchez completed a 30 yard pass, it was probably because he overthrew a 15 yard pass.
 
rka
2012-11-14 02:48:33 PM  

varmitydog: He needs to get away from the Jets before they end his career for him with their mismanagement.


When the Broncos dangled him for a trade this spring only the Jets and Jaguars showed any interest. No one else, not even the Patriots, with Bill Bellichick, the Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Reclamation Projects, with Josh McDaniels, the guru who drafted Tebow in the 1st round starting all of this mess in the first place, took a sniff.

I guess he could go to the Jags as the last stop on the Timmy-Train NFL circus but they aren't geared to run the ball any better than the Jets are.

Half the NFL audience believes Fox and Elway played Tebow (and traded Orton) in the sincere belief that Tebow would eff it up anyways, making the desired end of season trade a foregone conclusion. Much to their surprise, the team actually went out and won a few games. I don't know many other Head Coaches and GMs in a secure enough position to take that gamble again.
 
2012-11-14 02:51:40 PM  
So the team is terrible and the one person they decide to blame is the backup QB that has seen hardly any playtime. Makes sense I guess.

/not a tebowite
//sick of hearing about him actually
 
2012-11-14 02:54:04 PM  

rka: I don't know many other Head Coaches and GMs in a secure enough position to take that gamble again.


Well, it's certainly believable that Elway ain't getting fired in Denver over a bad season. And I don't think Elway would've fired Fox.

/also, why trade for someone you know they're itching to cut anyway?
 
2012-11-14 02:58:54 PM  
Put in McElroy. Who cares that it takes all he has to put any kind of zip on a screen out to the sidelines. I'd argue he's a lot smarter and less mistake-prone than Sanchez.

/We won't even mention Tebow
 
rka
2012-11-14 02:59:22 PM  

IAmRight: /also, why trade for someone you know they're itching to cut anyway?


Because .... The Jets?

Why trade for someone when your HC has absolutely no intention of playing him at all? It's one thing to overpay, it's quite another for the owner to overtly force a player onto a coaching staff that would rather get herpes than to play him.
 
2012-11-14 02:59:43 PM  

IAmRight: Ah, there's the cohesion and support for teammates you see from good teams. Oh wait, it's the Jets.

/funny re-reading the "The Secret" part of The Book of Basketball last night, then this article this morning. Jets are a dumpster fire full of failures and sh*tty teammates.


I read that Woody Johnson actually calls Rex and tells him what plays he should be running, but it's like "you need to pass more." I assume that Jerry does this and maybe Dan Snyder, but is this common at all or is it a facet of a few high profile bad teams.
 
2012-11-14 03:10:15 PM  

El Uno Magnifico: Put in McElroy. Who cares that it takes all he has to put any kind of zip on a screen out to the sidelines. I'd argue he's a lot smarter and less mistake-prone than Sanchez.

/We won't even mention Tebow


Here's the problem Sanchez is faced with. "Kerley: Covered. What now? I can't throw it away on every down! fark!!!" He's not talented enough to effectively deal with what is essentially an impossible situation anyway. Why ruin another quarterback who might be able to develop by throwing them into the middle of that?

Here's what Jets fans should do, make a list of all their offensive players that any other team in the NFL would covet and who aren't on IR. Then they should pretend they're in Nacho's crocs and look at that list long and hard until it sinks in.

/I hear Danny Woodhead is having a great year, so at least the Jets have that going for them.
//Wait, he plays for who?
 
2012-11-14 03:17:02 PM  

Tickle Mittens: El Uno Magnifico: Put in McElroy. Who cares that it takes all he has to put any kind of zip on a screen out to the sidelines. I'd argue he's a lot smarter and less mistake-prone than Sanchez.

/We won't even mention Tebow

Here's the problem Sanchez is faced with. "Kerley: Covered. What now? I can't throw it away on every down! fark!!!" He's not talented enough to effectively deal with what is essentially an impossible situation anyway. Why ruin another quarterback who might be able to develop by throwing them into the middle of that?

Here's what Jets fans should do, make a list of all their offensive players that any other team in the NFL would covet and who aren't on IR. Then they should pretend they're in Nacho's crocs and look at that list long and hard until it sinks in.

/I hear Danny Woodhead is having a great year, so at least the Jets have that going for them.
//Wait, he plays for who?


The Sherman INT in the Seahawks game was an example of his decision-making. He saw Kerley was covered, went to his second option, saw that covered, felt the pocket collapse, then did a pump fake in the direction of where he was about to throw it, then threw the ball in a high, arcing loop at the front of the end zone. Sherman, if he had good enough balance, would have walked into the opposite end zone.
 
2012-11-14 03:21:03 PM  

El Uno Magnifico: Put in McElroy. Who cares that it takes all he has to put any kind of zip on a screen out to the sidelines. I'd argue he's a lot smarter and less mistake-prone than Sanchez.

/We won't even mention Tebow


I just really want to watch the collective ESPN head-asploding when Sanchez gets hurt and they put in McElroy to lead the Jets in a come from behind drive
 
2012-11-14 03:25:38 PM  
rka: When the Broncos dangled him for a trade this spring only the Jets and Jaguars showed any interest. No one else, not even the Patriots, with Bill Bellichick, the Patron Saint of Lost Causes and Reclamation Projects, with Josh McDaniels, the guru who drafted Tebow in the 1st round starting all of this mess in the first place, took a sniff.

I guess he could go to the Jags as the last stop on the Timmy-Train NFL circus but they aren't geared to run the ball any better than the Jets are.

Half the NFL audience believes Fox and Elway played Tebow (and traded Orton) in the sincere belief that Tebow would eff it up anyways, making the desired end of season trade a foregone conclusion. Much to their surprise, the team actually went out and won a few games. I don't know many other Head Coaches and GMs in a secure enough position to take that gamble again.


You are correct in your assessment; nobody is going to take a chance on him; a real shame because he might have the skill set to win with the proper supporting cast.

It's probably because there is no credible back up plan for someone with a rare set of talents like Tebow or Vick. If they build an offense around Tebow and then he goes out with an injury, they're screwed. Because it's not just a matter of changing a player or a few plays, it's a matter of redoing the entire offense. In Atlanta with Mike Vick, they were at a severe disadvantage whenever he went out--and they had Schaub, who was a decent backup--who back then was young and scrambled pretty good. The year Atlanta lost Vick to his doggie crimes right before the season started, they had redone their entire offensive line, using smaller quicker players--then that line spent the season trying to protect Joey Harrington, an immobile quarterback, with disastrous consequences.
 
2012-11-14 03:28:18 PM  

The_Sponge: Nadie_AZ: I never understood the draw of this guy.


People either love him or hate him......or are in the small minority of people who don't care either way....like me.

CSB:

A friend of mine and fellow Seahawks fan actually hates Tebow more than Rapistberger. WTF?!


Unpossible!

I like Tebow because he trolled Elway and the sports talking heads last season.
Not sure if he has another run in him but it would amuse me to no end if he did.
 
2012-11-14 03:31:16 PM  
They think Tebow's heroics in Denver were a mirage.

Really, Jets? Was it a mirage that this same guy managed to run a 95-yard game-winning drive against your sorry asses?
 
2012-11-14 03:38:03 PM  
It tells you a lot about folks who would like someone if they would disavow their religious beliefs.
 
2012-11-14 03:39:55 PM  

fruitloop: They think Tebow's heroics in Denver were a mirage.

Really, Jets? Was it a mirage that this same guy managed to run a 95-yard game-winning drive against your sorry asses?


If the Jets defender doesn't miss his tackle, Tebow's first pass of that drive is a safety.
 
2012-11-14 03:39:58 PM  

iamskibibitz: MeinRS6: Tebow doesn't belong in NY or the Jets.

There are other teams/markets where he could see some success.

Yeah, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats just got bounced out of the playoffs...


Does Tebow play defense?
 
2012-11-14 03:41:29 PM  

fruitloop: They think Tebow's heroics in Denver were a mirage.

Really, Jets? Was it a mirage that this same guy managed to run a 95-yard game-winning drive against your sorry asses?


Tebow gets credit that the Jets couldn't nail his receiver for a safety on the opening play of the drive followed by horrible tackling on the second... so on and so forth?

Tebow is a great QB, with horrible coverage recognition and passing skills.
 
2012-11-14 03:48:04 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: The Sherman INT in the Seahawks game was an example of his decision-making. He saw Kerley was covered, went to his second option, saw that covered, felt the pocket collapse, then did a pump fake in the direction of where he was about to throw it, then threw the ball in a high, arcing loop at the front of the end zone. Sherman, if he had good enough balance, would have walked into the opposite end zone.


The problem with that interpretation is there's no talent around Sanchez. He faces that or something similar on a disproportunate number of downs, yet he still needs to put up the points in a very limited number of opportunities. On those rare occasions he gets into the redzone he knows that anything less than a touchdown really is nothing since they may not be back. Yes, he's overplaying bad hands. He has no choice, that's all he gets. It's not that I think Sanchez is good, he's not, but he's surrounded by a horrorshow.

Let's also remember what you're cutting out of that event. Right before that, they brought Tebow out to run their very limited "Sop the game it's wildcat time offense." Result, false start walk them back five and bring Nacho back out. He manages to get an explosive play, and put the Jets in scoring position, what would turn out to be the only one they would have all day, and his coaches throw him under the bus and have the rest of the offense piss on him. Now he takes the field, rythem broken, in an obvious passing situation where it's impossible to stretch the field vertically, so all the windows will be smaller against one of the best pass defenses in the NFL, in the most hostile enviroment. You want to put all the blame for that pick on Sanchez, but it took a lot of people embarassing themselves to put him at that crossroads. Blame Sanchez for throwing the ball, but everything else was a team effort that he was on the sidelines watching.
 
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