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(Guardian)   Chelsea FC to referee: Sorry we accused of being a racist and thus likely destroying your career. Since we don't actually have any idea if you ever did anything racist, we won't actually press charges. We good?   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 36
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2012-11-14 02:14:37 PM
FTA: "

LOLWUT?

He's a grown man. You're his employer, not his mother.
 
2012-11-14 02:16:20 PM
Aw, hell. Preview before post. There was supposed to be a quote in there.

"We have a duty of care to John Terry in loco parentis."
 
2012-11-14 02:19:08 PM
In a linked article the Society of Black Lawyers are fuming over this. They were the ones making a huge stink over the use of "Yid Army". They're forcing themselves into the press so much lately I feel they must have a record dropping soon.
 
2012-11-14 02:21:46 PM
The FA investigation/hearing is yet to occur. That's when the real fun begins. I'd love to see the FA bury Chelsea in deductions if they find that the club raised spurious charges in order to affect future matches.
 
2012-11-14 02:26:43 PM
How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.
 
2012-11-14 02:56:56 PM

ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.


Considering the last person to use that word in the NHL was suspended for three games in 1997, I'm gonna guess it's not gonna be used very often. Cannot vouch for the NBA or NFL, but I will guess it would be a stupid thing to do considering the racial make-up.
 
2012-11-14 02:57:13 PM
Non-story. The police investigated John Terry too and the courts didn't convict him. The standard of guilt is different in a FA hearing.

That being said, if the ref is found innocent; Chelsea should be heavily fined, lose a massive amount of points (enough to where they could face relegation) and kicked out of the FA Cup and the League Cup, if possible.
 
2012-11-14 02:58:56 PM

ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.


Or have neo-nazi groups in the nosebleeds. Or throw bananas on the field.

Anyone who tells you Europe is more "enlightened" then the US is kidding themselves. It's just different outlets.
 
2012-11-14 03:00:46 PM

rjakobi: ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.

Considering the last person to use that word in the NHL was suspended for three games in 1997, I'm gonna guess it's not gonna be used very often. Cannot vouch for the NBA or NFL, but I will guess it would be a stupid thing to do considering the racial make-up.


Yeah...I threw the NHL in there for a laugh.
 
2012-11-14 03:01:39 PM
That headline sucks. The FA case is ongoing. It wasn't Chelsea who made the complaint to the police, so when there is no "victim" and no one willing to press charges, the case is dropped. In neither case are Chelsea now not pressing charges.

FTA: Bruce Buck: Clattenburg "made two obvious mistakes [sending Fernando Torres off and allowing Javier Hernández's offside winner] which changed the tide."

The only mistake he made with Torres was not sending him off in the first half for kung-fu kicking Cleverley in the chest. The incorrect offside call was ... how can I phrase this ... the linesman's fault.

FTA: Bruce Buck: "I felt we had the moral high ground"

You're Chelsea. You never have the moral high ground on anything, ever. Your club is the most morally bankrupt, classless, hypocritical, financial black hole in a league overflowing with plenty of the same. Mata's a good player, though.

img.thesun.co.uk
 
2012-11-14 03:15:33 PM
We know who we are. We know who we are. We're Champions of Europe. We know who we are.
 
2012-11-14 03:25:43 PM
Carefree?
 
2012-11-14 03:26:50 PM

Sirjohnfalstaff: We know who we are. We know who we are. We're Champions of Europe Russian Mob funded racist douchebags. We know who we are.

 
2012-11-14 03:32:12 PM
^

Arsenal supporter butthurt?
 
2012-11-14 03:38:15 PM
Chelsea would have been screwed if they didn't take any action and accusations came out, especially after the whole JT black coont episode. I'm not one to defend Chelsea (unless it's Mata's glorious beard or Ivanovic's glorious ass) but it would have been worse if it came out that there were allegations of racist language that were ignored.
 
2012-11-14 03:49:31 PM

TheKnownUniverse: Chelsea would have been screwed if they didn't take any action and accusations came out, especially after the whole JT black coont episode. I'm not one to defend Chelsea (unless it's Mata's glorious beard or Ivanovic's glorious ass) but it would have been worse if it came out that there were allegations of racist language that were ignored.


Very true (at least the parts that are relevant to the conversation). Maybe the FA and the Premier League need to invest in having the referees' mics recorded for use in case they have to review a match for either referee misconduct or just to make sure they're doing their job right.
 
2012-11-14 04:01:55 PM

desertgeek: Very true (at least the parts that are relevant to the conversation). Maybe the FA and the Premier League need to invest in having the referees' mics recorded for use in case they have to review a match for either referee misconduct or just to make sure they're doing their job right.


They already do.

...

...don't they?
 
2012-11-14 04:12:31 PM
Ryan Shawcross is the 96th MUFC academy graduate to play international football.

Ireland-Greece is as boring as you imagined it would be. I think. I'm not really watching properly. 0-1. 64 mins.
 
2012-11-14 04:14:18 PM

rjakobi: desertgeek: Very true (at least the parts that are relevant to the conversation). Maybe the FA and the Premier League need to invest in having the referees' mics recorded for use in case they have to review a match for either referee misconduct or just to make sure they're doing their job right.

They already do.

...

...don't they?


No. The officials are mic'ed up to each but their conversations are not recorded. This would have been over in two hours if they were.
 
2012-11-14 04:29:23 PM
In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.
 
2012-11-14 04:37:25 PM

TheKnownUniverse: In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.


Came here to say this. That 4th goal's making Sportscenter tonight.
 
2012-11-14 05:10:21 PM

ADubs86: TheKnownUniverse: In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.

Came here to say this. That 4th goal's making Sportscenter tonight.


I just saw a crappy Youtube clip of it. Holy shiat.
 
2012-11-14 05:18:25 PM

desertgeek: ADubs86: TheKnownUniverse: In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.

Came here to say this. That 4th goal's making Sportscenter tonight.

I just saw a crappy Youtube clip of it. Holy shiat.


Also, the second one was pure skill. Chest forward and volley shot, nice
 
2012-11-14 05:24:08 PM

MoparPower: desertgeek: ADubs86: TheKnownUniverse: In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.

Came here to say this. That 4th goal's making Sportscenter tonight.

I just saw a crappy Youtube clip of it. Holy shiat.

Also, the second one was pure skill. Chest forward and volley shot, nice


1st goal: right place, right time

2nd goal: as you said, pure skill.

3rd goal: how the fark did that get through?

4th goal: absolutely insane.
 
2012-11-14 05:53:08 PM

689908: rjakobi: desertgeek: Very true (at least the parts that are relevant to the conversation). Maybe the FA and the Premier League need to invest in having the referees' mics recorded for use in case they have to review a match for either referee misconduct or just to make sure they're doing their job right.

They already do.

...

...don't they?

No. The officials are mic'ed up to each but their conversations are not recorded. This would have been over in two hours if they were.


Plus the recordings would be leaked and every one will hear what a bunch of jumped up foul mouthed cretins footballers are and it would ruin the reputation (and value) of the game.

The problem was that Chelsea made the allegations almost within an hour of the final whistle. That's not any time to investigate a very confusing situation. It reeks of club caught up in the moment after a very emotional game and trying to get back at someone they think made bad calls (both were debatable)
 
2012-11-14 07:04:56 PM

ScouserDuck: In a linked article the Society of Black Lawyers are fuming over this. They were the ones making a huge stink over the use of "Yid Army". They're forcing themselves into the press so much lately I feel they must have a record dropping soon.


They also thought that the way to combat racism in football was to form a black players union, because in their opinion the best way to combat racism is to divide players and how they are represented on race grounds. Pure genius
 
2012-11-14 07:23:10 PM

bennett311: ^

Arsenal supporter butthurt?


Hey, know how I know you don't know what "Scouser" means?
 
2012-11-14 07:53:29 PM
Zlatan is an aloof asshole, but, man, can he kick a ball.
 
2012-11-14 08:38:51 PM

desertgeek: ADubs86: TheKnownUniverse: In other news, Zlatan is Zlatan and Zlatan is not human. Got. Damn.

Came here to say this. That 4th goal's making Sportscenter tonight.

I just saw a crappy Youtube clip of it. Holy shiat.


WTHFS!!!!! Wow.... I usually discount Zlatan as being douchey, but that is the goal of the year material!
 
2012-11-14 08:53:54 PM

689908: That headline sucks. The FA case is ongoing. It wasn't Chelsea who made the complaint to the police, so when there is no "victim" and no one willing to press charges, the case is dropped. In neither case are Chelsea now not pressing charges.

FTA: Bruce Buck: Clattenburg "made two obvious mistakes [sending Fernando Torres off and allowing Javier Hernández's offside winner] which changed the tide."

The only mistake he made with Torres was not sending him off in the first half for kung-fu kicking Cleverley in the chest. The incorrect offside call was ... how can I phrase this ... the linesman's fault.

FTA: Bruce Buck: "I felt we had the moral high ground"

You're Chelsea. You never have the moral high ground on anything, ever. Your club is the most morally bankrupt, classless, hypocritical, financial black hole in a league overflowing with plenty of the same. Mata's a good player, though.

[img.thesun.co.uk image 310x401]


And those of us who support Arsenal Football Club want to kill the board for farking up that Mata deal.
 
2012-11-14 11:15:04 PM

ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.


Depends, do you count players calling each other "nagga" (filter circumvention plz?) to be racist?
 
2012-11-15 12:32:52 AM

star_topology: ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.

Depends, do you count players calling each other "nagga" (filter circumvention plz?) to be racist?


Black-on-black and ending in "a"? No, though that can get heated if used in the wrong context. Black-on-white, probably ending in "a"? Probably not, but I doubt that would happen. White-on-black and ending in "er"? That dude better have some damn good teammates to back him up.
 
2012-11-15 03:42:25 AM
6 years or so ago, being called a racist was one of the most vile things you could be called.

Now, since everyone calls everyone a racist at the slightest hint of anything that could be remotely associated with a color, it does not carry the same stigma.

6 years from now, no one will even care. The word racist will lose all meaning and true racism will be poo pooed as victim whining.

/ Kinda like bullying.
 
2012-11-15 05:54:27 AM

ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.


although there were a couple of different times in the past year where black players had bananas thrown on the ice at them here in NA. one in Ontario I believe, involving Wayne Simmonds. I think there was one in Quebec within the past few years.

sadly, Simmonds has already been the target of taunts in the Czech league.

after watching euro 2012 this I'm coming to the conclusion Eastern Europeans are the most racist of the developed world
 
2012-11-15 08:59:27 AM

UncleStumpy: ScouserDuck: How often do you think the "N" word is used by players in an NFL game? NBA game? NHL game? I know things are way different in England but it would be interesting. On the flip side, we don't see the monkey gestures or racist chants in the US.

although there were a couple of different times in the past year where black players had bananas thrown on the ice at them here in NA. one in Ontario I believe, involving Wayne Simmonds. I think there was one in Quebec within the past few years.

sadly, Simmonds has already been the target of taunts in the Czech league.

after watching euro 2012 this I'm coming to the conclusion Eastern Europeans are the most racist of the developed world


Yes, agreed. Racism wouldn't be tolerated at all in the US sports stadiums. Mostly because sports like NBA, NFL and MLB are dominated by minorities. Furthermore, diversity in sports have always started from an early age here.

When you look at hockey, predominantly white, I've had a few racists slurs and comments yelled at me in the stands at MSG, and I know Simmonds has had some issues recently on the ice, but you don't hear too much of it. There has been a history of minority players in the past 20 years, but our culture really doesn't allow for racism to be tolerated at all.
 
2012-11-15 09:01:55 AM
By the way, my favorite picture from last night.

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