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(Washington Examiner)   Somehow, Ohio has still managed not to count 300,000 votes. Not that it will change the results--but how hard can it be?   (washingtonexaminer.com) divider line 19
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2012-11-14 12:20:57 PM
2 votes:

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


Here ya go ACE Link

Don't let facts get in the way of a good talking point.
2012-11-14 12:09:45 PM
2 votes:
This isn't a matter of being slow or unable to count ballots. In Ohio, provisional ballots are given to voters whose eligibility is in question. Voters then have ten days to prove their eligibility. The votes will be counted this Saturday.

Things have been set up this way to avoid voter disenfranchisement and make sure that people's votes do get count. That's a good thing, right?
2012-11-14 10:12:02 AM
2 votes:

DamnYankees: Arizona has the same. It's farking pathetic.


Saw that on Maddow last night...blew me away. 18,000 counted per day, with 300,000+ remaining to be counted -by Friday.

What happens to the votes left over that aren't counted by Friday? Tossed.

Unbelievable.

/Ring ring ring banana republic
2012-11-14 09:17:00 AM
2 votes:

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.
2012-11-14 12:36:42 PM
1 votes:

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


It may not be enough votes to overrule the presidential vote, but some of the local votes are rather close. That is probably the main reason to need to count them.
2012-11-14 12:32:00 PM
1 votes:
Generation_D: "when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan"

This. The goal is to make provisional ballots look like a dead-end, so anyone who isn't 110% sure they won't wind up with a provisional stays home and anyone offered a provisional at a polling place rage-quits the whole deal. If they actually knew what to do with provisionals and counted them according to the existing laws, they wouldn't be a dead-end and wouldn't suppress anything.

All that said: it may be time the nation as a whole puts forward a "vote however you want, backwards states, but you must support a nationally-consistent vote-by-mail system for those who choose to use it."

Because all this suppression nonsense -- not to mention the inanity of holding elections on workdays without consistent hours or early voting laws -- has gone on long enough.
2012-11-14 12:29:17 PM
1 votes:
I can see not ONE of you actually read the article. These provisional ballots WON'T be reported until November 17th when canvasing officially starts. Its the process under Ohio law. Give it a rest people.
2012-11-14 12:24:01 PM
1 votes:
"Not all provisional or absentee ballots will be counted. They are subject to challenge"


...well, now I feel like my vote matters a TON.

/sarcasm
2012-11-14 12:18:44 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: Generation_D

when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
Suppression like 25 some odd OH counties not having a single republican vote?


Please identify a county in which no Republican received a vote.
2012-11-14 12:09:48 PM
1 votes:

OregonVet: Perhaps the law could be changed so that provisional ballots will be counted on election day instead of ten days after the election?


A provisional ballot may only be counted for the election results after the voter has verified his or her eligibility to cast it after the day of the election. Reading the results of the ballot prior establishing the voter's eligibility, but not adding them to the final results until after eligibility is established, would require recording the voter's specific vote choices, which eliminates voter secrecy.
2012-11-14 12:04:39 PM
1 votes:

Testiclaw: What happens to the votes left over that aren't counted by Friday? Tossed.


srsly? Everyone responsible for that fiasco should get one UFIA for each citizen's vote they throw away.
2012-11-14 12:02:06 PM
1 votes:
Ohio is the Florida of the mid-west.
2012-11-14 10:10:51 AM
1 votes:
So Florida finished their vote counting before at least one other state? Way to go!

/still finds it hilarious that after all the time Romney spent campaigning in FL, the fact that they held the RNC there and all the shady registration shenannegans the republicans pulled, not only did he still lose FL, it didn't matter that he lost FL
2012-11-14 10:03:38 AM
1 votes:

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


I agree that the voting system needs to be improved--perhaps even federally regulated for national races. But I also think the secretary's office can take its time to sort through 300,000 provisional and absentee paper ballots. If Ohio was close enough to trigger a recount, I think they should take even longer.

In my mind, Minnesota's very transparent and coordinated recount of the Franken-Coleman race is ideal. The Supreme Court preventing the true outcome of Florida in 2000 is not. Taking your time and establishing methods is preferable.
2012-11-14 09:49:19 AM
1 votes:

Dufus: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

I guess some guy named "Chad" is in charge of that count?


Hey! The Chad is great!

nekom: Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?

You don't think that in 2012 maybe a system to count the votes at LEAST within a few days is too much to ask?

No, it doesn't look like it will affect the vote, and even if it did Obama wins without Ohio anyway, but still, come the fark on! This isn't rocket surgery.


When hundreds of thousands of people cast their votes in a way that makes it more difficult to verify and count them (especially when it's more than it has been in the past), it takes longer. Look at California - they have millions of uncounted ballots still.
2012-11-14 09:02:25 AM
1 votes:

Lumpmoose: So there are a number of uncounted ballots and each will eventually be counted once it's determined if they're valid or not. And it almost certainly won't change the outcome of Ohio because of where they're from. What's [img.fark.com image 54x11]?


I guess some guy named "Chad" is in charge of that count?
2012-11-14 08:42:58 AM
1 votes:
when your stated goal is voter suppression, this looks like everythings going according to plan.
2012-11-14 08:37:50 AM
1 votes:
Do you think Karl Rove is pointing to this as a means to distract the Koch Brothers from him funneling the SuperPAC money to his offshore accounts?

/just asking questions
2012-11-14 08:36:12 AM
1 votes:
Arizona has the same. It's farking pathetic.
 
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