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(CNN)   After accuser recants sex allegations, puppeteer free to return to shoving his hand up Elmo's ass   (news.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 84
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2012-11-14 10:22:58 AM  

fluffy2097: I think people who charge people with rape and then recant their stories should be legitimately raped.

Then sued for slander, making false statements, fraud, harassment, and anything else we can make stick.

Ruin the motherfarkers life.

We were finally getting to the point in our country that we take rape allegations seriously when it's a man who's molested and this motherfarking republican micropenis goes and ruins it for everyone.


I haven't seen where the accusers political affiliation was posted in any of the articles. For you to politicize this, you must be a special kind of stupid.
 
2012-11-14 10:24:49 AM  

Nightsweat: Flakeloaf: 1. Black guy
2. Entertainer
3. Socially inept
4. Profoundly gifted at his craft
5. Outwardly ambiguous sexuality
6. Extorted for money by lurid accusation which has since been recanted

Anyone else following me here?

Urkel?


JJ Walker?
 
2012-11-14 10:30:30 AM  

FTDA: fluffy2097: I think people who charge people with rape and then recant their stories should be legitimately raped.

Then sued for slander, making false statements, fraud, harassment, and anything else we can make stick.

Ruin the motherfarkers life.

We were finally getting to the point in our country that we take rape allegations seriously when it's a man who's molested and this motherfarking republican micropenis goes and ruins it for everyone.

I haven't seen where the accusers political affiliation was posted in any of the articles. For you to politicize this, you must be a special kind of stupid.


"Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."
 
2012-11-14 10:35:19 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."


So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?
 
2012-11-14 10:38:21 AM  

Fark In The Duck: Am I the only one who laughed at subby's headline??


Nope.
 
2012-11-14 10:43:22 AM  
Good. I finally believe you people that being gay isn't really a choice, so the "ick" factor is gone. Just two gay guys doing their thing, so it's no-one's business

Plus, as weird as Michael Jackson was, it sounds like he was foolish, but not a pedo. His career and reputation suffered tremendously after the extortion.

So, if I ran the universe, false accusers would be shotgunned in the genitals during a live news conference. Just as 100%-no-doubt-about-it assaulters should be.
 
2012-11-14 10:53:46 AM  
JackieRabbit: You're being way too general. The human psyche is much too complex for generalizations. Homosexuality has been becoming more and more accepted and mainstream my whole life. Gays are generally acknowledging their sexuality and coming out very early in life these days because the social stigma is not what it once was. For most people, there is no need to repress their sexual feelings. More, younger people are experimenting much more than in the past and the pigeonholes of sexual identity that we have embraced for so long are becoming meaningless.

Male sexuality is relatively rigid, usually developing some sort of fetish early on. Female sexuality is more about genuine connection and can be very fluid. (Dan Savage touches on this frequently)
 
2012-11-14 10:55:17 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: FTDA: fluffy2097: I think people who charge people with rape and then recant their stories should be legitimately raped.

Then sued for slander, making false statements, fraud, harassment, and anything else we can make stick.

Ruin the motherfarkers life.

We were finally getting to the point in our country that we take rape allegations seriously when it's a man who's molested and this motherfarking republican micropenis goes and ruins it for everyone.

I haven't seen where the accusers political affiliation was posted in any of the articles. For you to politicize this, you must be a special kind of stupid.

"Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."


Ahh, it's clear now. Well I guess I'm a moderate n***er.
 
2012-11-14 10:56:08 AM  

fluffy2097: BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."

So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?


13th amendment.
 
2012-11-14 10:56:56 AM  

FTDA: Nightsweat: Flakeloaf: 1. Black guy
2. Entertainer
3. Socially inept
4. Profoundly gifted at his craft
5. Outwardly ambiguous sexuality
6. Extorted for money by lurid accusation which has since been recanted

Anyone else following me here?

Urkel?


Laura was a beard?
 
2012-11-14 10:59:11 AM  

fickenchucker: So, if I ran the universe, false accusers would be shotgunned in the genitals during a live news conference. Just as 100%-no-doubt-about-it assaulters should be.


I can get behind this.

It's pretty telling who are defending a person making false rape accusations.

Remember folks.
Sex between consenting adults == immoral pedopheila
Making false statements to the police with the purpose of ruining someones life == Moral.

/Not sure how this can be anything but rapepublican values.
 
2012-11-14 11:00:03 AM  

FTDA: fluffy2097: BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."

So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?

13th amendment.


the constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper. Remember?
 
2012-11-14 11:03:35 AM  

omgbears:
Male sexuality is relatively rigid, usually developing some sort of fetish early on. Female sexuality is more about genuine connection and can be very fluid. (Dan Savage touches on this frequently)


My sexuality usually results in fluid of some sort.
 
2012-11-14 11:08:31 AM  

Diogenes: david_gaithersburg: Diogenes: No one tell, david_gaithersburg. It seemed highly important to him that Clash be a "gay pedo".

Are you still screaming that having sex with children isn't rape?

I'm saying:

- you jumped to a conclusion
- you conflated homosexuality and pedophilia
- you condemned anyone who didn't drag out the pitchforks and torches immediately

And you still seem fixated on the idea that this was pedophilia as opposed to statutory rape. Now we know it's neither.


There will be no logic in this discussion.
 
2012-11-14 11:09:21 AM  

fluffy2097: FTDA: fluffy2097: BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."

So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?

13th amendment.

the constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper. Remember?


Parchment actually, but no, it is an actual valid document to me. But feel free to keep wiping your ass with it if it makes you happy.
 
2012-11-14 11:15:09 AM  

FTDA: fluffy2097: FTDA: fluffy2097: BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."

So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?

13th amendment.

the constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper. Remember?

Parchment actually, but no, it is an actual valid document to me. But feel free to keep wiping your ass with it if it makes you happy.


That's an apocryphal quote attributed to GWB.
 
jvl
2012-11-14 11:16:59 AM  
It's still creepy. The formula is that your partner's age must >= [your age] / 2 + 7

This relationship breaks the creepy barrier by a mile.
 
2012-11-14 11:18:50 AM  

omgbears: Male sexuality is relatively rigid, usually developing some sort of fetish early on. Female sexuality is more about genuine connection and can be very fluid. (Dan Savage touches on this frequently)


Dan Savage? Oh please. He's a charlatan. Male sexuality, in reality, is not rigid at all. We are socialized to be rigid and nothing more. Socialization is easily overcome and behavior altered. It is actually very common for men in their 40s and 50s to become intensely interested in experimenting with male-to-male sex, even though they have never had any previous desire alone this line. Psychotherapists counsel a lot of these men; it's one of the more common reasons for seeking therapy.
 
2012-11-14 11:19:15 AM  
So another case of the media reporting something with no basis in fact. An accusation isn't valid unless it's true, right?

If something can't be proven to have happened, how can it be considered "news" and be reported by "news organizations?" Isn't it just gossip until substantiated?
 
2012-11-14 11:25:57 AM  

fluffy2097: BarkingUnicorn: "Republican" is the new, socially acceptable "n***er."

So. What are you saying? That the Democrats own them?

http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/19356789_BG1.jpg


Are we still allowed to call him Republican Jim, or is that your word?
 
2012-11-14 11:26:52 AM  
Bah, arsed my tag. A photograph of Republican Jim appears below. We apologize for the error.

wkrn.images.worldnow.com
 
2012-11-14 11:28:16 AM  

Nightsweat: La la la la
la la la la
Elmo's cock.

/No, you can't unhear it in your head
//Mr. NOODLE!


Fark you with Big Bird's beak sideways, Nightsweat.
 
2012-11-14 11:29:05 AM  

blunto: So another case of the media reporting something with no basis in fact. An accusation isn't valid unless it's true, right?

If something can't be proven to have happened, how can it be considered "news" and be reported by "news organizations?" Isn't it just gossip until substantiated?


We don't have news anymore. We have an endless stream of hearsay and conjecture mixed with personal opinion from airheads and blowhards.

News died the moment it started needing to worry about ratings.
 
2012-11-14 11:38:42 AM  
Shomebody got paaaiiiddd
 
2012-11-14 11:57:19 AM  

trappedspirit: Shomebody got paaaiiiddd


I don't know if there's a more likely explanation to explain the sudden recanting. Unless Elmo had evidence of blackmail and extortion and threatened to go to the fbi.
 
2012-11-14 11:59:26 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: I don't know if there's a more likely explanation to explain the sudden recanting. Unless Elmo had evidence of blackmail and extortion and threatened to go to the fbi.


Filing false reports is a crime.

Maybe he didn't want to get raped in prison for real.
 
2012-11-14 12:02:26 PM  

JackieRabbit: Male sexuality, in reality, is not rigid at all.


Mine is buddy. Except that one time, but she wanted it on the beach. The beach! Cold water, invasive sand, crabs! Plus I had a big lunch. Oh, and I was kind of tired, and her parents were on vacation with us, which was wierd. But, other than that? They call me MR. Rigid.
 
2012-11-14 12:04:24 PM  
 
2012-11-14 12:06:36 PM  

fluffy2097: Filing false reports is a crime.

Maybe he didn't want to get raped in prison for real.


Did the accuser ever go to the police or was this all a civil matter?
 
2012-11-14 12:55:57 PM  

shabu: JackieRabbit: Male sexuality, in reality, is not rigid at all.

Mine is buddy. Except that one time, but she wanted it on the beach. The beach! Cold water, invasive sand, crabs! Plus I had a big lunch. Oh, and I was kind of tired, and her parents were on vacation with us, which was wierd. But, other than that? They call me MR. Rigid.


See's what you did there, yeah it's mentioned in the lyrics.
 
2012-11-14 01:22:33 PM  

jvl: It's still creepy. The formula is that your partner's age must >= [your age] / 2 + 7

This relationship breaks the creepy barrier by a mile.




Yeah, there's that. But being foolish is different than creepy.

My number would be 28.5, but if a hot 18 came by, and was weird enough to think I'm hot, I'd run her around the block a few times and just pretend I was in high school. Since I'm shooting blanks and don't have to worry about kids, I would teach her all I could before she wised up.

/Of course my wife would have to disappear somehow first, and I don't think I'm something an 18 would want, but we're talking about "what if's" here.
 
2012-11-14 01:34:31 PM  

vpb: Cythraul: Although I don't think this article mentions it (I only scanned the article), I have heard that the lawyers from both parties met shortly before this announcement and may have agreed upon a six-figure settlement. If that is true, I find it hard to believe this accuser was ever being truthful to begin with. If I felt I had been wronged enough to seek justice through the courts, it would take an incredible amount of money for me to change course in that decision.

This sounds like it may have been a case of extortion via litigation.

Except that the accused wouldn't have paid, since paying hush money is a tacit admission of guilt.


Sure, but did you look at the other side of that coin? The side that includes reputation, possible visitation with his kids, parents, kids, trust, admiration, CTW, Sesame Street, what a lot of kids believe is a living breathing Elmo and finally his job that he obviously loves. That side of the coin is much heavier and he paid for what threatened it to go away. Clash would be done if this went to court or kept playing out in public. May be done or mostly done anyway. JMO even though IANAL I've just been around a long time.

Now we were lucky as our kids didn't care about Elmo much because they knew a pedo when they heard one. We(mostly Mom) taught them well. That doesn't mean other kids shouldn't get to listen to one though.

I keed. I feel bad for him. He may be gay, and I don't give a damn if he is, but this guy was probably setting him up all along because he is. I remember being shocked to find out a huge black guy was Elmo's voice a few years ago. I looked at his biography and other stuff I could find and he is a pretty interesting and really driven guy. Seems like a nice guy too. I hope he gets through this with very little fallout.
 
2012-11-14 02:02:06 PM  

JackieRabbit: Dan Savage? Oh please. He's a charlatan. Male sexuality, in reality, is not rigid at all. We are socialized to be rigid and nothing more. Socialization is easily overcome and behavior altered. It is actually very common for men in their 40s and 50s to become intensely interested in experimenting with male-to-male sex, even though they have never had any previous desire alone this line. Psychotherapists counsel a lot of these men; it's one of the more common reasons for seeking therapy.


I probably should have cited his source, which is actually this book.

But who believes science these days?
 
2012-11-14 02:23:53 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Diogenes: No one tell, david_gaithersburg. It seemed highly important to him that Clash be a "gay pedo".

Are you still screaming that having sex with children isn't rape?


Are you still screaming that an openly gay adult having consensual sexual relations with a 18-year-old is rape?
 
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