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(Gawker)   Papa John's is being sued for $250 million ... for texting   (gawker.com) divider line 60
    More: Obvious, Papa John, first-to-file, texting, Telephone Consumer Protection Act  
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2012-11-14 08:19:18 AM  
The question is, if they have to pay this, how much will it add to the price of their crappy pizzas so they can "protect the shareholders"?
 
2012-11-14 09:46:16 AM  
In unrelated news: Because the Chick-Fil-A stuff was so much fun, conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals. Hooray for the possibility of more food-based culture wars.

How did breaking the law (in a spectacularly annoying fashion) become a political issue one way or the other? Sure, Schnatter is a tool. But so what (in this case)?
 
2012-11-14 09:47:33 AM  
To put $250,000,000 in perspective, it's what Papa Johns expects to pay for 30 years of Obamacare.
 
2012-11-14 09:50:25 AM  

Diogenes: In unrelated news: Because the Chick-Fil-A stuff was so much fun, conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals. Hooray for the possibility of more food-based culture wars.

How did breaking the law (in a spectacularly annoying fashion) become a political issue one way or the other? Sure, Schnatter is a tool. But so what (in this case)?


Schnatter has said things to support Republicans, so any action against him, no matter how valid, is the result of liberals run amok. Like how Nate Silver is a liberal partisan for doing math that indicated Romney would lose the election.
 
2012-11-14 10:06:21 AM  
that money for Obamacare seems like a crop in the bucket now, don't it?
 
2012-11-14 10:29:58 AM  
Papa John's denies any responsibility, of course, and instead blames "third-party vendors and a small number of franchises." That third party vendor is OnTime4U, a mass text messaging service

"It's not our fault that we sent out mass text messages, it was the guys we hired to send out mass text messages! How were we supposed to know the mass text messaging service we hired and paid to send out mass text messages would send out mass text messages? Has the world gone mad?"
 
2012-11-14 10:35:09 AM  
Couldn't happen to a nicer douchebag
 
2012-11-14 10:35:58 AM  

impaler: Diogenes: In unrelated news: Because the Chick-Fil-A stuff was so much fun, conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals. Hooray for the possibility of more food-based culture wars.

How did breaking the law (in a spectacularly annoying fashion) become a political issue one way or the other? Sure, Schnatter is a tool. But so what (in this case)?

Schnatter has said things to support Republicans, so any action against him, no matter how valid, is the result of liberals run amok. Like how Nate Silver is a liberal partisan for doing math that indicated Romney would lose the election.


Also, did you see the long lines in support of CFA during the "Support Our Derps" week? Either Schnatter has the outrage-a-torium's directors on speed dial, or the GOP thinks their base will always support mass-produced bland food product when it's under siege.

// unless it's run by some socialist or something
 
2012-11-14 10:43:40 AM  

Diogenes: In unrelated news: Because the Chick-Fil-A stuff was so much fun, conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals. Hooray for the possibility of more food-based culture wars.

How did breaking the law (in a spectacularly annoying fashion) become a political issue one way or the other? Sure, Schnatter is a tool. But so what (in this case)?


Different issue. The Papa Johns twat was one of the multi-millionaire crybaby CEOs running around having a hissy fit and threatening to lay people off because Obama was re-elected and Obamacare would stand.

I wish a company I actually frequent would have one of these retarded meltdowns. Papa Johns, Applebees and Chick-Fil-A are all dildos so I don't eat their "food" anyway. I feel like I'm missing out on all the boycott fun.
 
2012-11-14 10:44:11 AM  

Dr Dreidel: the GOP thinks their base will always support mass-produced bland food product when it's under siege.


I'm thinking this is a sure bet.
 
2012-11-14 10:46:16 AM  
Obama-fearing CEO is threatening to cut employer's hours

A farking pizza joint is a temp gig not a career choice FFS.
 
2012-11-14 10:47:55 AM  
I dont get some CEOs they are potentially alienating a large chunks of customers and potential customers by getting involved in political pissing matches.
 
2012-11-14 10:48:14 AM  
I'm OK with the last text I got from them, I won a free two topping pizza.
 
2012-11-14 10:51:26 AM  
Totally stealing "Support our Derps week".
 
2012-11-14 10:57:41 AM  

Free Radical: Obama-fearing CEO is threatening to cut employer's hours

A farking pizza joint is a temp gig not a career choice FFS.


Yeah, but even a person on a "temp gig" deserves insurance. His threat was to "pull a Walmart" and simply cut employees hours enough to deny them insurance and back fill with more part timers. All over a law that

A) Hasn't gone in to effect yet and
B) would only cost 14 cents per pizza max.

He's a big baby man having a tantrum because his side lost and he is willing to hurt innocent people to have his tantrum made public. He's also a giant douchebag that makes shiat!y pizza.
 
2012-11-14 11:05:44 AM  
papa johns has good pizza, idk what is with the pizza snobs in this thread

unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 11:08:36 AM  

Diogenes: In unrelated news: Because the Chick-Fil-A stuff was so much fun, conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals. Hooray for the possibility of more food-based culture wars.

How did breaking the law (in a spectacularly annoying fashion) become a political issue one way or the other? Sure, Schnatter is a tool. But so what (in this case)?


And apparently "not supporting your workforce" is an official conservative platform worthy of rallying support. I understand why conservatives rallied to support Chick-Fil-A's efforts to suppress equal rights for gays and support measures to adopt a death-penalty for homosexuality in Uganda (it's hideous, but I understand the evil intent of it). But this? "We love that you don't provide benefits to your employees!"? Conservatives are terrible people.
 
2012-11-14 11:10:52 AM  
1) Delivery pizza joints are highly competitive, low margin companies
2) Regulatory and healthcare costs go up
3) Cost of making pizza goes up $0.15
4) Owner responds by cutting hours and jobs
5) Delivery times and quality suffers, customer service ratings go down
6) Revenue drop, company becomes less competitive

This is not the prudent business response to costs going up in a low margin industry that is very service-driven. This is never the right response. The correct choice is to raise the cost of the pizza by $0.15, or get really innovative about how you negotiate your healthcare rates. Every company in the industry is facing the same cost increases. Hurting service is shooting yourself in the foot. Pass the cost on, and keep your service level equal. Those that do will retain profit, because people won't begin ordering from places that take 2 1/2 hours to deliver cold pizza. They'll pay the fifteen freakin' cents to get hot pizza on time.
 
2012-11-14 11:12:25 AM  
Applebees has good BBQ. IDK what is with the BBQ snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 11:19:20 AM  

poughdrew: Applebees has good BBQ. IDK what is with the BBQ snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...


Now you've gone and done it...
 
2012-11-14 11:22:27 AM  
I like how Gawker included their traditional carpet bombing vigilantism near the end egging their readers to boo Peyton Manning for association.

Taylor Swift you can boo whenever, though.
 
2012-11-14 11:27:20 AM  
Budweiser has good beer. IDK what is with the beer snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 11:29:55 AM  

poughdrew: Applebees has good BBQ. IDK what is with the BBQ snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...


Did you know that you can buy the same type of food as that restaurant at Sams Club?
 
2012-11-14 11:32:18 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: poughdrew: Applebees has good BBQ. IDK what is with the BBQ snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...

Did you know that you can buy the same type of food as that restaurant at Sams Club?


You mean I can have that delicious sponge and swamp runoff flavor in my own home?
 
2012-11-14 11:37:04 AM  

thurstonxhowell: StoPPeRmobile: poughdrew: Applebees has good BBQ. IDK what is with the BBQ snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...

Did you know that you can buy the same type of food as that restaurant at Sams Club?

You mean I can have that delicious sponge and swamp runoff flavor in my own home?


The ribeyes are decent for lunch.
 
2012-11-14 11:38:28 AM  
They should be sued for having a commercial that features Jerry Jones rapping.
 
2012-11-14 11:41:17 AM  
Some new nations will require your pizza, Papa
 
2012-11-14 11:45:35 AM  
Ke$ha makes good music. IDK what is with the music snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 11:46:17 AM  
conservatives are reportedly rallying to support Papa John's in response to reported protests from liberals.

Conservatives are fat and have no taste.
 
2012-11-14 11:46:39 AM  
Two and a Half Men is good tv. IDK what is with the tv snobs on Fark
 
2012-11-14 12:17:46 PM  

Carth: Two and a Half Men is good tv. IDK what is with the tv snobs on Fark


Looks like a show that would have a laugh track. Does it have a laugh track?
 
2012-11-14 12:19:20 PM  
Fark is a good web site. IDK what is with the Web site snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 12:27:24 PM  
The GOP has good candidates , idk what is with the voting snobs in this thread

unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 12:28:57 PM  
Uh, guys.

No hate for the lawyers wanting $500 per text (of which they will collect at least 40%)?

Like it or not, PJ's responded appropriately when they cancelled the contract. This is just a bald faced extortion attempt that lucked into some really good timing.
 
2012-11-14 12:46:06 PM  

Another Government Employee: Uh, guys.

No hate for the lawyers wanting $500 per text (of which they will collect at least 40%)?

Like it or not, PJ's responded appropriately when they cancelled the contract. This is just a bald faced extortion attempt that lucked into some really good timing.


$500 is specified in the statute. The lawyers don't set it.

If PJ Corporate used this service illegally, it's on the hook for the texts its company-owned stores sent. If franchisees ignored corporate's very clear guidance on what's legal, then the franchise owners are liable.
 
2012-11-14 12:50:45 PM  

tbhouston: papa johns has good pizza, idk what is with the pizza snobs in this thread


Now, do you actually eat Papa John's straight from the box, or is it mashed up with the other food in the trough?
 
2012-11-14 12:56:09 PM  

Another Government Employee: Like it or not, PJ's responded appropriately when they cancelled the contract.


They should never have had the contract to begin with.
 
2012-11-14 12:56:27 PM  

tbhouston: papa johns has good pizza, idk what is with the pizza snobs in this thread

unless they are being ironic and cool...


Papa John's, as an organization, officially stood behind their driver who called the police because they smelled a customers legal pot and the "child welfare check" that ensued.

Link

"Papa John's of Colorado wants to stand behind the decision that this delivery driver made. He was acting as a concerned citizen and for what he believes was the best interests of our community."

If they had said nothing I would have been cool with them, but this is unacceptable and why they will never see a dime from me.

/not a pot smoker
 
2012-11-14 12:57:17 PM  
Pizza Hut > Papa John's > Domino's > Little Caesars

/ they all suck, but some are worse than others
 
2012-11-14 12:57:38 PM  

King Something: Fark is a good web site. IDK what is with the Web site snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...


No, it's just that I could get better pizza for a cheaper price located less than a block from my home. Oh, and they don't harass me via my cell phone when I buy from them -or- biatch and complain about the cost of having a healthy workforce.
 
2012-11-14 12:58:19 PM  
The clap is a good venereal disease IDK what is with the health snobs on Fark.

Unless they are being ironic and cool...
 
2012-11-14 01:06:26 PM  

Another Government Employee: Like it or not, PJ's responded appropriately when they cancelled the contract.


Well, yeah. No one said they didn't.

If I contract with a shin-kicking firm to kick people in the shins, I am doing the right thing when I cancel that contract. However, I did originally sign the contract with the shin-kicking firm and they did kick people in the shins for me, so the law will probably still get involved.
 
2012-11-14 01:10:27 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Another Government Employee: Like it or not, PJ's responded appropriately when they cancelled the contract.

Well, yeah. No one said they didn't.

If I contract with a shin-kicking firm to kick people in the shins, I am doing the right thing when I cancel that contract. However, I did originally sign the contract with the shin-kicking firm and they did kick people in the shins for me, so the law will probably still get involved.


If I had a shin kicking firm I would only hire midgets. I don't know why but when I think "shin kicker" I think midgets convey credibility.
 
2012-11-14 01:22:55 PM  

jst3p: If I had a shin kicking firm I would only hire midgets. I don't know why but when I think "shin kicker" I think midgets convey credibility.


Clearly you've never seen a good shin-punching midget.
 
2012-11-14 01:38:18 PM  
Papa John's Pizza tastes like shiat and is twice as expensive as Domino's (which is okay) and 2.5 times as expensive as our local chain (which is pretty good).

Who would buy their shiat, seriously?
 
2012-11-14 01:53:56 PM  

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Papa John's Pizza tastes like shiat and is twice as expensive as Domino's (which is okay) and 2.5 times as expensive as our local chain (which is pretty good).

Who would buy their shiat, seriously?


People who are glad that the owner would rather screw over his employees by dropping their hours so he doesn't have to pay for their health care instead of taking the 14-cent-per-pizza hit on the increase in operating costs and paying for that hit by either switching from two-ply paper to one-ply in one of his servants' bathrooms or raising the price of the pizzas he sells by 25 cents per pie.
 
2012-11-14 02:13:30 PM  
Somehow, I'm pretty sure this is all Peyton Manning's fault.
 
2012-11-14 02:14:11 PM  
I support punishing companies for unsolicited texting. I also think the practice of surreptitiously sign people up for autopay or for some other service when you agree to an initial deal. Agreements like that should be clear, so the consumer knows what they are agreeing to, not buried in the middle of a sea of 6 font text.
 
2012-11-14 02:22:27 PM  

MysticSavage: Somehow, I'm pretty sure this is all Peyton Manning's fault.


Pretty impressive that he has managed to pull it off given the poor performance of his offensive line. Think about how many texts he could have gotten out if he had any time in the pocket to check through all his receivers!
 
2012-11-14 02:55:09 PM  

ManateeGag: that money for Obamacare seems like a crop in the bucket now, don't it?


Compared to giving away 24 million pizzas? Sure.
 
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