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(CNN)   Apparently CNN's readers are too dumb to know what a solar eclipse is. From the main page: "What causes this remarkable event?" What indeed   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 107
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2012-11-14 10:52:19 AM

MythDragon: What an Umbra might look like.

[livedoor.blogimg.jp image 850x511]
A sexy goth-librarian Umbra.

/Don't fark with a witch. 
//Especially an Umbra witch.


Or this one:

well-of-souls.com

/miss that voltron knock-off cartoon
 
2012-11-14 10:54:16 AM

uttertosh: MythDragon: What an Umbra might look like.

Is that supposed to be, like, and anti-Palin or something?


Bayonetta
 
2012-11-14 10:54:27 AM
Skoll the wolf who shall scare the Moon
Till he flies to the Wood-of-Woe:
Hati the wolf, Hridvitnir's kin,
Who shall pursue the Sun.
    Grimnismal, The Elder Edda

static.desktopnexus.com


The wolf Skoll will finally devour the sun, and his brother Hati will eat the moon, plunging the earth [into] darkness. The stars will vanish from the sky. The cock Fjalar will crow to the giants and the golden cock Gullinkambi will crow to the gods. A third cock will raise the dead.
Duh!
 
2012-11-14 11:04:07 AM
According to Jerry Remy, it's when the sun passes between the Earth and the Moon.

/love ya, Remdog
 
2012-11-14 11:09:38 AM

Mose: According to Jerry Remy, it's when the sun passes between the Earth and the Moon.

/love ya, Remdog


This is a fine place
Shining face to face
Those bonfire lights in the mirror of sky
The space between wonder and why

Ahh, yes to yes to ahh, ahh to yes
Why the sun?
Why the sun?

www.metal-archives.com
 
2012-11-14 11:13:44 AM

groppet: I think I will run for office and have a speech outside during an eclipse and tell them to vote for me or I wont bring back the sun. Ill stay in office forever!! I like lunar ones more since ya dont need a welders goggles to look at it.


Unless you have your speech on election day, I'm pretty sure the sun will come back before they vote.
 
2012-11-14 11:14:33 AM

Lumpmoose: CNN providing science education? More please. Especially compared to their usual 24-hour dreck.


This. Also xkcd 1053.

Did any of you Farkers try the solar eclipse quiz in the sidebar?
 
2012-11-14 11:16:57 AM
That's no moon.
 
2012-11-14 11:17:32 AM
Isn't a solar eclipse when the sun is inbetween the Earth and the Moon?
 
2012-11-14 11:19:04 AM
What, are people afraid of one little Eclipse?

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-14 11:19:49 AM
So let me see if I've got the general gist of this thread.

CNN is bad for educating people about basic science concepts because people are stupid and haven't been educated about basic science concepts properly up to this point?

If only major media outlets would try and educate people, we wouldn't have this problem of major media outlets trying to educate people?

That about sum it up?
 
2012-11-14 11:24:12 AM
 
2012-11-14 11:24:58 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Maybe, just maybe CNN panders to the lowest common denominator. I am waiting for the article "Everybody Poops"


The in-depth followup will be "Turds are Tapered So Your Anus Won't Snap Shut."

Nobody ever went broke underestimating what?
 
2012-11-14 11:35:56 AM
If they did not understand what caused an eclipse, imagine how freaked out they will be when they find out that scientists have a system to allow them to PREDICT the eclipses with pinpoint accuracy, not only WHEN they will occur but WHERE they will be visible and for how long. OH MY!

/still not as stupid as the twitter #suckitatheist post about how if gravity exists, how come balloons can float away?
 
2012-11-14 11:49:56 AM

hogans: Turn around, bright eyes.


Hogans, I need you now tonight. And I need you more than ever.
 
2012-11-14 12:08:29 PM

JMacPA: So let me see if I've got the general gist of this thread.

CNN is bad for educating people about basic science concepts because people are stupid and haven't been educated about basic science concepts properly up to this point?

If only major media outlets would try and educate people, we wouldn't have this problem of major media outlets trying to educate people?

That about sum it up?


No, the gist is: The average CNN viewer is so dumb, it has to be explained to them. Since no one here watches CNN, as they are smarter than the average CNN viewer, they mock them for their stupidity.

Fox News is a whole other ball of wax: They actually don't try to educate their viewers, they reinforce the mental aberrations they deem as truth.
 
2012-11-14 12:12:29 PM
It boogles my mind that the Moon and Sun appear to be exactly the same size from Earth.
 
2012-11-14 12:30:37 PM
Oh and I suppose most of the people in this thread can actually explain why a magnetic field will cause a physical force to be applied at a distance to other magnets or metals. Go ahead. Show us how much smarter than those tard clowns are. Tell us what causes this force and why it's biased in the direction it points. Now, the solar eclipse thing is tard basement level.
 
2012-11-14 12:31:57 PM

Valiente: Aarontology: This is what happens when a significant portion of the population disdains knowledge in favor of mouth drooling ignorance.


Dude, the election's over. Give it a rest.


So I guess we go back to blaming Obama and his caitiff crew of demons from the deepest pits of Hell, then?
 
2012-11-14 12:34:52 PM
Am I the only person who has noticed that the graphic is wrong? The Penumbra is shown too light, as if it is fully bright. Also, between the moon and sun there are weird mirror images of the umbra and penumbra that correspond to absolutely nothing in the real world.

eldalin.com

I am left with the distinct impression that the person who made this graphic felt that reality was just not artistic enough and needed to be spruced up. Eiher that or he was just an idiot. Maybe both.

If there is one thing that is worse than no science education through the media is it science MISeducation through the media.
 
2012-11-14 12:40:14 PM
Actually, it's even worse than I realized at first glance, since in reality the penunmbra does not cover the entire Earth.

This is what we get for decades of denigrating science and scientists.
 
2012-11-14 01:00:37 PM

Moriel: Actually, it's even worse than I realized at first glance, since in reality the penunmbra does not cover the entire Earth.

This is what we get for decades of denigrating science and scientists.


It's bad. For example, I've seen science textbooks where the light is focused as a pinpoint on the retina. Bad science can be worse than ignorance, and that graphic is pretty painful.
 
2012-11-14 01:11:18 PM

uberaverage: It boogles my mind that the Moon and Sun appear to be exactly the same size from Earth.


That's actually just a current coincidence. The moon used to be MUCH larger in the sky, but it's slowly creeping further from Earth as time goes on. So while it is approximately the size of the sun from our POV on Earth's surface now, a million years ago it appeared bigger and a million years from now it will appear smaller.
 
2012-11-14 01:15:17 PM

mongbiohazard: uberaverage: It boogles my mind that the Moon and Sun appear to be exactly the same size from Earth.

That's actually just a current coincidence. The moon used to be MUCH larger in the sky, but it's slowly creeping further from Earth as time goes on. So while it is approximately the size of the sun from our POV on Earth's surface now, a million years ago it appeared bigger and a million years from now it will appear smaller.


Not to mention the moon's apparent size varies depending on it's position in the sky and atmospheric conditions.
 
2012-11-14 01:33:12 PM

trappedspirit: Oh and I suppose most of the people in this thread can actually explain why a magnetic field will cause a physical force to be applied at a distance to other magnets or metals.


"Why" questions are hard, and often meaningless, in physics. See Feynman's roundabout answer trying to get this across.
 
2012-11-14 01:34:07 PM
img397.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-14 01:37:26 PM

Lumpmoose: CNN providing science education? More please. Especially compared to their usual 24-hour dreck.


Except they sort of get the first diagram wrong with the implication that the moon is somehow a lunar lens for light coming from the sun.
 
2012-11-14 02:02:37 PM
If the nineth lion ate the sun...
 
2012-11-14 02:28:53 PM

JMacPA: So let me see if I've got the general gist of this thread.

CNN is bad for educating people about basic science concepts because people are stupid and haven't been educated about basic science concepts properly up to this point?

If only major media outlets would try and educate people, we wouldn't have this problem of major media outlets trying to educate people?

That about sum it up?


No, you need to write us a 1000 word essay on this topic. It must be typed, double spaced and thoroughly source reference.

CNN isn't trying to educate anyone. They were just filling air time and space on the website with elementary school science, because the Fluff Desk couldn't come up with enough content today. Fox will probably counter my making a papier-mâché volcano.
 
2012-11-14 02:34:21 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: It's bad. For example, I've seen science textbooks where the light is focused as a pinpoint on the retina.


Well, that makes sense, because that's how focusing works. All the light from one source point that traverses the lens is focused at one point on the retina. All the light from another source point that traverses the lens is focused at another point on the retina, etc.

Suppose I am focusing my eyes on a black piece of paper with two pinpoint-sized white dots on it. All of the light that enters my eye from one dot will be focused on a pinpoint sized spot on my retina. All of the light that enters my eye from the other dot will be focused on a different pinpoint sized spot on my retina.

// Naturally, nothing is really a perfect point, no lens will achieve perfect focus, and if one point is in focus the other point probably won't be. But focusing all the light from a point source back to a point destination is the point of focusing.
 
2012-11-14 03:02:12 PM

Ambitwistor: trappedspirit: Oh and I suppose most of the people in this thread can actually explain why a magnetic field will cause a physical force to be applied at a distance to other magnets or metals.

"Why" questions are hard, and often meaningless, in physics. See Feynman's roundabout answer trying to get this across.


Yeah, I've seen that before. An excellent presentation. And I'm not so sure the why questions are ever meaningless, at least not for physicists. But as to magnets you pretty much the questioning process and end abruptly with the assumption that this is just how magnetic forces work. It's not a crazy or silly question to wonder about forces at a distance. But the point I was making was more to do with the proliferation of the icp how do magnets work meme. Perhaps a better understanding of the fabric of the universe than we have right now could start answering that question. But for right now, we just have the assumption Mr. Feynman spoke of. I do not know in what context the icp meant this question, I just wonder how people posting that picture would answer it.

/waves, man
 
2012-11-14 03:16:31 PM

Generation_D: And here I thought everyone spent a few years being fascinated with star charts and planetary phenomena. No?


Only in our dream world.

I remember I was 4 and demanding my mother get the astronomy books out of the library for me and explain what they said. I spent hours staring at the constellation charts. Then at age 7 I read about black holes and supernova and developed a phobia about vortexes.
 
2012-11-14 03:29:13 PM

Ambitwistor: trappedspirit: Oh and I suppose most of the people in this thread can actually explain why a magnetic field will cause a physical force to be applied at a distance to other magnets or metals.

"Why" questions are hard, and often meaningless, in physics. See Feynman's roundabout answer trying to get this across.


Eh, disregard what I said. I've just been informed that this is an idiotic song that absolutely does not pose that question in the right context. I was icp ignorant.
 
2012-11-14 03:37:36 PM

MythDragon: What an Umbra might look like.

[livedoor.blogimg.jp image 850x511]
A sexy goth-librarian Umbra.

/Don't fark with a witch. 
//Especially an Umbra witch.


2.bp.blogspot.com

"How YOU doin'?"

/Dante x Bayonetta, my OTP
 
2012-11-14 04:29:38 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: MythDragon: What an Umbra might look like.

[livedoor.blogimg.jp image 850x511]
A sexy goth-librarian Umbra.

/Don't fark with a witch. 
//Especially an Umbra witch.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x415]

"How YOU doin'?"

/Dante x Bayonetta, my OTP


media1.gameinformer.com
I think Emo Dante would be more to Bayo's liking....
 
2012-11-14 04:31:39 PM

Moriel: Am I the only person who has noticed that the graphic is wrong? The Penumbra is shown too light, as if it is fully bright. Also, between the moon and sun there are weird mirror images of the umbra and penumbra that correspond to absolutely nothing in the real world.

[eldalin.com image 640x360]

I am left with the distinct impression that the person who made this graphic felt that reality was just not artistic enough and needed to be spruced up. Eiher that or he was just an idiot. Maybe both.

If there is one thing that is worse than no science education through the media is it science MISeducation through the media.


Have you not heard of Moon Prism theory? It's the lastest thing since Pluto got demoted.
 
2012-11-14 04:58:10 PM

Moriel: Am I the only person who has noticed that the graphic is wrong? The Penumbra is shown too light, as if it is fully bright. Also, between the moon and sun there are weird mirror images of the umbra and penumbra that correspond to absolutely nothing in the real world.

[eldalin.com image 640x360]

I am left with the distinct impression that the person who made this graphic felt that reality was just not artistic enough and needed to be spruced up. Eiher that or he was just an idiot. Maybe both.

If there is one thing that is worse than no science education through the media is it science MISeducation through the media.


And the scale is all wrong! The distance from the sun to the earth is 100 times the diameter of the sun, and the diameter of the sun is 100 times the diameter of the earth, and the diameter of the earth is 100 times the diameter of the umbra. Why didn't they draw it right? It looks like this.

O----------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- -------------------------------..

The moon only shows up because of anti-aliasing in that picture. Also, the size of the umbra is about 1/25th the size of one pixel on your monitor, so you'll just have to imagine it.

I can't believe they got something so basic as the scale of the universe wrong.
 
2012-11-14 05:38:50 PM

The Larch: The Irresponsible Captain: It's bad. For example, I've seen science textbooks where the light is focused as a pinpoint on the retina.

Well, that makes sense, because that's how focusing works. All the light from one source point that traverses the lens is focused at one point on the retina. All the light from another source point that traverses the lens is focused at another point on the retina, etc.

Suppose I am focusing my eyes on a black piece of paper with two pinpoint-sized white dots on it. All of the light that enters my eye from one dot will be focused on a pinpoint sized spot on my retina. All of the light that enters my eye from the other dot will be focused on a different pinpoint sized spot on my retina.

// Naturally, nothing is really a perfect point, no lens will achieve perfect focus, and if one point is in focus the other point probably won't be. But focusing all the light from a point source back to a point destination is the point of focusing.


I'm speaking of this (which is misleading):
www.klbict.co.uk

Vs. This:
www.mysciencesite.com 

The second image clearly shows the image projected onto the retina, where the first makes it appear the image is focused onto a point on the retina.
 
2012-11-14 05:59:15 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: The second image clearly shows the image projected onto the retina, where the first makes it appear the image is focused onto a point on the retina.


The first image is correct, as is the second image. But they show two entirely different things. In particular, the second image has absolutely nothing at all to do with focusing, and should never be used in conjunction with a discussion of how your eye focuses.
 
2012-11-14 06:02:39 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: www.mysciencesite.com


HA! It's an eyes-cream CONE.
 
2012-11-14 06:06:52 PM
"Sometimes referred to as a "happy accident of nature," a total solar eclipse occurs when the moon is perfectly aligned with both the sun and Earth, so it appears from our perspective that the sun is completely blocked."



/approves
 
2012-11-14 06:08:54 PM

Mogani: "Sometimes referred to as a "happy accident of nature," a total solar eclipse occurs when the moon is perfectly aligned with both the sun and Earth, so it appears from our perspective that the sun is completely blocked."



/approves


bah stupid link.

i.huffpost.com
 
2012-11-14 06:20:50 PM

MythDragon: Keizer_Ghidorah: MythDragon: What an Umbra might look like.

[livedoor.blogimg.jp image 850x511]
A sexy goth-librarian Umbra.

/Don't fark with a witch. 
//Especially an Umbra witch.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x415]

"How YOU doin'?"

/Dante x Bayonetta, my OTP

[media1.gameinformer.com image 610x456]
I think Emo Dante would be more to Bayo's liking....


You know, I have no problem with the new Dante, despite what the other people scream and rage. Hell, I'd love to see some fanart of both Dantes getting frisky (would that be incest or masturbation?). And now I'm imagining both Dantes making a Bayonetta sandwich.

/I'm a strange person
 
2012-11-14 07:01:49 PM
three cheers for Subby and all like subster born knowing everything.
 
2012-11-14 07:02:26 PM

Mose: According to Jerry Remy, it's when the sun passes between the Earth and the Moon.

/love ya, Remdog


When the... I guess some like it hot, so lets turn up the heat till we fry.
 
2012-11-14 07:58:50 PM

KrispyKritter: three cheers for Subby and all like subster born knowing everything.


The point is that CNN isn't really a hot spot for children to surf.
If you need this article, it implies that you managed to get to an advanced age without learning anything basic at all.

Which I don't doubt for a second.

I routinely deal with people that think gravity pulls things down, and since the city is South of us their sewer bill should be cheaper. You know, because gravity. And the city is South.

I once spent five minutes trying to explain how lightning hitting their house caused the computer to blow up. I gave up after "But it wasn't electricity...it was Lightning!"

There is no excuse for that sort of ignorance. Blame schools if you like, but there is a certain onus on you to learn things. School or not.
 
2012-11-14 08:38:28 PM

ds615: I routinely deal with people that think gravity pulls things down


Well, that's understandable, I mean if you construct your reference frame around yourse-

ds615: and since the city is South of us their sewer bill should be cheaper. You know, because gravity. And the city is South.


New keyboard. Now.
 
2012-11-14 08:41:45 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Skoll the wolf who shall scare the Moon
Till he flies to the Wood-of-Woe:
Hati the wolf, Hridvitnir's kin,
Who shall pursue the Sun.
    Grimnismal, The Elder Edda

[static.desktopnexus.com image 450x288]


The wolf Skoll will finally devour the sun, and his brother Hati will eat the moon, plunging the earth [into] darkness. The stars will vanish from the sky. The cock Fjalar will crow to the giants and the golden cock Gullinkambi will crow to the gods. A third cock will raise the dead.
Duh!


That's a whole lot of cock 

/Penis
 
2012-11-14 10:13:00 PM

Generation_D: And here I thought everyone spent a few years being fascinated with star charts and planetary phenomena. No?


If you're a girl, science has nothing to do with nail polish and talking on your cell phone, so why bother?
If you're a guy, science takes time away from sports, video games and watching girls on the internets, so screw it.
 
2012-11-14 10:40:21 PM

twfeline: Generation_D: And here I thought everyone spent a few years being fascinated with star charts and planetary phenomena. No?

If you're a girl, science has nothing to do with nail polish and talking on your cell phone, so why bother?
If you're a guy, science takes time away from sports, video games and watching girls on the internets, so screw it.


What if you're.... nah, you'd prolly just bunch up your face and call me a douchefag. Carry on, Norm!
 
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